• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 02:18
CET 08:18
KST 16:18
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win0Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175Evil Geniuses - shutting down23ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier7Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1
StarCraft 2
General
[D] Hacker peak in sc2 ? No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? Username Change Request - Toxickej Kapr Liquibets sc2 season 30 Evil Geniuses - shutting down
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WardiTV Mondays ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Starcraft 2 Advance [D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers [G] How to playtest arcade maps
External Content
Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles Mutation # 548 Shining Bright
Brood War
General
Rollback Netcode in Brood War SC4ALL II Brood War Complete Invited Player Lineup BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Sagi.gg Launcher Released Top Players of October 2026 (EBPD Rankings)
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [$1250] International ShieldBattery League [Megathread] Daily Proleagues KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
Strategy
50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Deus Ex 3!? Nintendo Switch Thread Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Armies of Exigo - YesYes?
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Chess Thread
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7946 users

[Patch 3.10a: Worlds Balance] General Discussion - Page 106

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 104 105 106 107 108 156 Next
[PSA]: Challenging the status quo...
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 29 2013 23:21 GMT
#2101
After having a discussion with staff about certain polarizing individuals and their impact to the TL LoL community, these are my thoughts. Consider this a formal notice to all.

PrinceXizor, you are a fairly amiable character in our subforum, but your theorycraft has brought upon the chagrin of many. While theorycraft in general is never frowned upon, you do very little to justify your stance. I would like to point out #6 on our TL LoL Ten Commandments, "Thou shall justify opinions properly". You've made numerous statements in the past of varying validity, but your commentary about how armor/level runes are better than flat armor runes is one that stands out in particular. When 100% of pro players across the globe use flat armor runes and you suggest that armor/level is better, realize how ridiculous you sound.

Whether you realize it or not, whether you accept it or not, your opinions have been consistently part of the overwhelming minority. Justify your opinions with firsthand evidence or have someone else test out your theories but there will be no more enthusiastic claims by you. It only leads to the rest of the page (if not multiple pages) in General Discussion of users trying to convince you otherwise.

Roffles, on most days, you are an entertaining character. During in-houses, you're a great host and you give solid advice. Unfortunately, your bedside manner is borderline derogatory. I am a supporter of "tough love", especially when it comes to doling out lessons but you often take it a step beyond that.

Recognize who you're talking to and don't just talk down to everyone. Make sure the target of your banter won't take it as harassment.

XilDarkz (Mathies), as one of the newer members to our TL LoL community, you have gotten on the wrong side of a number of our users, both on the subforum and during in-houses. I won't absolve you of all blame but I do recognize that it is reaching a point where others are bandwagon'ing against you. First and foremost, I ask you to act with a bit more humility. In all honesty, you're a Gold player right now and there's nothing wrong with that. But when you claim that you can consistently beat ("utterly dominate") Plats and Diamonds yet you think RoA and Tear is the best opening for Syndra (it's not), then you draw the ire of many.

For your situation, it's a two-way street. Act with a little bit of class and realize where you are as a player; people won't be so eager to jump on you. Drop the superiority complex.

Overall, I think our community is at a good place: we have a solid staff, a surprisingly active and fun in-house system, and we only look to aim higher come Worlds and Season 4.

I am never against challenging the status quo of TL LoL. If you think you can make us better, then lead the way. What I am against is disrupting the status quo. I will not tolerate users or acts that make our community a worse place.

If there are any comments or concerns, don't hesitate to PM me.

Thank you for your time.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-29 23:27:20
August 29 2013 23:26 GMT
#2102
I read that entire thing and the only thing I got out of it was "Inhouse LoL"

I'm so out of the loop lol

Where is the info on the inhouse stuff? Excuse me for being blind
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-29 23:30:55
August 29 2013 23:30 GMT
#2103
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 30 2013 08:21 NeoIllusions wrote:
After having a discussion with staff about certain polarizing individuals and their impact to the TL LoL community, these are my thoughts. Consider this a formal notice to all.

PrinceXizor, you are a fairly amiable character in our subforum, but your theorycraft has brought upon the chagrin of many. While theorycraft in general is never frowned upon, you do very little to justify your stance. I would like to point out #6 on our TL LoL Ten Commandments, "Thou shall justify opinions properly". You've made numerous statements in the past of varying validity, but your commentary about how armor/level runes are better than flat armor runes is one that stands out in particular. When 100% of pro players across the globe use flat armor runes and you suggest that armor/level is better, realize how ridiculous you sound.

Whether you realize it or not, whether you accept it or not, your opinions have been consistently part of the overwhelming minority. Justify your opinions with firsthand evidence or have someone else test out your theories but there will be no more enthusiastic claims by you. It only leads to the rest of the page (if not multiple pages) in General Discussion of users trying to convince you otherwise.

Roffles, on most days, you are an entertaining character. During in-houses, you're a great host and you give solid advice. Unfortunately, your bedside manner is borderline derogatory. I am a supporter of "tough love", especially when it comes to doling out lessons but you often take it a step beyond that.

Recognize who you're talking to and don't just talk down to everyone. Make sure the target of your banter won't take it as harassment.

XilDarkz (Mathies), as one of the newer members to our TL LoL community, you have gotten on the wrong side of a number of our users, both on the subforum and during in-houses. I won't absolve you of all blame but I do recognize that it is reaching a point where others are bandwagon'ing against you. First and foremost, I ask you to act with a bit more humility. In all honesty, you're a Gold player right now and there's nothing wrong with that. But when you claim that you can consistently beat ("utterly dominate") Plats and Diamonds yet you think RoA and Tear is the best opening for Syndra (it's not), then you draw the ire of many.

For your situation, it's a two-way street. Act with a little bit of class and realize where you are as a player; people won't be so eager to jump on you. Drop the superiority complex.

Overall, I think our community is at a good place: we have a solid staff, a surprisingly active and fun in-house system, and we only look to aim higher come Worlds and Season 4.

I am never against challenging the status quo of TL LoL. If you think you can make us better, then lead the way. What I am against is disrupting the status quo. I will not tolerate users or acts that make our community a worse place.

If there are any comments or concerns, don't hesitate to PM me.

Thank you for your time.


Damn, didn't make the list


Here's that thread btw for ihs
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=422875
BW -> League -> CSGO
Pooshlmer
Profile Joined August 2008
United States1001 Posts
August 29 2013 23:30 GMT
#2104
Thread is called "Running at Dusk". Not sure why actually.
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
August 29 2013 23:30 GMT
#2105
On August 30 2013 08:30 Pooshlmer wrote:
Thread is called "Running at Dusk". Not sure why actually.


It's dangerous to do so. Wear reflective clothing.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
August 29 2013 23:33 GMT
#2106
Seems like a fair and balanced outlook on all sides.

Kind of like CNN, except actually fair and balanced.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 29 2013 23:35 GMT
#2107
On August 30 2013 08:30 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 08:30 Pooshlmer wrote:
Thread is called "Running at Dusk". Not sure why actually.


It's dangerous to do so. Wear reflective clothing.

Probably 'cause it was organized by our resident Nightmare Spirit Mod.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 29 2013 23:37 GMT
#2108
On August 30 2013 08:21 NeoIllusions wrote:
After having a discussion with staff about certain polarizing individuals and their impact to the TL LoL community, these are my thoughts. Consider this a formal notice to all.

PrinceXizor, you are a fairly amiable character in our subforum, but your theorycraft has brought upon the chagrin of many. While theorycraft in general is never frowned upon, you do very little to justify your stance. I would like to point out #6 on our TL LoL Ten Commandments, "Thou shall justify opinions properly". You've made numerous statements in the past of varying validity, but your commentary about how armor/level runes are better than flat armor runes is one that stands out in particular. When 100% of pro players across the globe use flat armor runes and you suggest that armor/level is better, realize how ridiculous you sound.

Whether you realize it or not, whether you accept it or not, your opinions have been consistently part of the overwhelming minority. Justify your opinions with firsthand evidence or have someone else test out your theories but there will be no more enthusiastic claims by you. It only leads to the rest of the page (if not multiple pages) in General Discussion of users trying to convince you otherwise.

Roffles, on most days, you are an entertaining character. During in-houses, you're a great host and you give solid advice. Unfortunately, your bedside manner is borderline derogatory. I am a supporter of "tough love", especially when it comes to doling out lessons but you often take it a step beyond that.

Recognize who you're talking to and don't just talk down to everyone. Make sure the target of your banter won't take it as harassment.

XilDarkz (Mathies), as one of the newer members to our TL LoL community, you have gotten on the wrong side of a number of our users, both on the subforum and during in-houses. I won't absolve you of all blame but I do recognize that it is reaching a point where others are bandwagon'ing against you. First and foremost, I ask you to act with a bit more humility. In all honesty, you're a Gold player right now and there's nothing wrong with that. But when you claim that you can consistently beat ("utterly dominate") Plats and Diamonds yet you think RoA and Tear is the best opening for Syndra (it's not), then you draw the ire of many.

For your situation, it's a two-way street. Act with a little bit of class and realize where you are as a player; people won't be so eager to jump on you. Drop the superiority complex.

Overall, I think our community is at a good place: we have a solid staff, a surprisingly active and fun in-house system, and we only look to aim higher come Worlds and Season 4.

I am never against challenging the status quo of TL LoL. If you think you can make us better, then lead the way. What I am against is disrupting the status quo. I will not tolerate users or acts that make our community a worse place.

If there are any comments or concerns, don't hesitate to PM me.

Thank you for your time.

<3
Well-said and very diplomatic despite you not really needing to be.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-29 23:41:51
August 29 2013 23:38 GMT
#2109
Moonbear in the middle of his sage advice decides to reference Field of Dreams and totally makes me forget what he was talking about in the rush to post this post.
:|

More on-topic though, what do you guys think of the place for splitpushing in LoL? I tend to do it almost every game, and I think it's one of the best strategies and one of the easiest, but I'm not very smart and I'm probably being biased because it takes away so much responsibility from the splitpusher (usually me). It is affected partially because I play mostly characters like Vlad, Rango, Shen, and Nidalee, but do you guys think it's overrated? My friends often tell me so.

Also, thanks for the post Neo. TL LoL has gone through a lot of changes these past few months, and I expect that they will only begin to increase as LoL inevitably grows. I think after this season there's going to be a lot of casual LoL fans going to find out more about the professional scene and a website to discuss such scene, and inevitably some will find our little Team Liquid here. But yeah, you were a lot more diplomatic than you needed to be, but I'm all about diplomacy ^_^
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 29 2013 23:43 GMT
#2110
On August 30 2013 08:38 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Moonbear in the middle of his sage advice decides to reference Field of Dreams and totally makes me forget what he was talking about in the rush to post this post.
:|

More on-topic though, what do you guys think of the place for splitpushing in LoL? I tend to do it almost every game, and I think it's one of the best strategies and one of the easiest, but I'm not very smart and I'm probably being biased because it takes away so much responsibility from the splitpusher (usually me). It is affected partially because I play mostly characters like Vlad, Rango, Shen, and Nidalee, but do you guys think it's overrated? My friends often tell me so.

I don't feel it's overrated at all. People in general I find are just SO BAD at dealing with splitpushing, though it can also be a double-edged sword with the other 4 members of your team not realizing a 4v5 is probably a bad engage.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
August 29 2013 23:43 GMT
#2111
On August 30 2013 08:30 wussleeQ wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 30 2013 08:21 NeoIllusions wrote:
After having a discussion with staff about certain polarizing individuals and their impact to the TL LoL community, these are my thoughts. Consider this a formal notice to all.

PrinceXizor, you are a fairly amiable character in our subforum, but your theorycraft has brought upon the chagrin of many. While theorycraft in general is never frowned upon, you do very little to justify your stance. I would like to point out #6 on our TL LoL Ten Commandments, "Thou shall justify opinions properly". You've made numerous statements in the past of varying validity, but your commentary about how armor/level runes are better than flat armor runes is one that stands out in particular. When 100% of pro players across the globe use flat armor runes and you suggest that armor/level is better, realize how ridiculous you sound.

Whether you realize it or not, whether you accept it or not, your opinions have been consistently part of the overwhelming minority. Justify your opinions with firsthand evidence or have someone else test out your theories but there will be no more enthusiastic claims by you. It only leads to the rest of the page (if not multiple pages) in General Discussion of users trying to convince you otherwise.

Roffles, on most days, you are an entertaining character. During in-houses, you're a great host and you give solid advice. Unfortunately, your bedside manner is borderline derogatory. I am a supporter of "tough love", especially when it comes to doling out lessons but you often take it a step beyond that.

Recognize who you're talking to and don't just talk down to everyone. Make sure the target of your banter won't take it as harassment.

XilDarkz (Mathies), as one of the newer members to our TL LoL community, you have gotten on the wrong side of a number of our users, both on the subforum and during in-houses. I won't absolve you of all blame but I do recognize that it is reaching a point where others are bandwagon'ing against you. First and foremost, I ask you to act with a bit more humility. In all honesty, you're a Gold player right now and there's nothing wrong with that. But when you claim that you can consistently beat ("utterly dominate") Plats and Diamonds yet you think RoA and Tear is the best opening for Syndra (it's not), then you draw the ire of many.

For your situation, it's a two-way street. Act with a little bit of class and realize where you are as a player; people won't be so eager to jump on you. Drop the superiority complex.

Overall, I think our community is at a good place: we have a solid staff, a surprisingly active and fun in-house system, and we only look to aim higher come Worlds and Season 4.

I am never against challenging the status quo of TL LoL. If you think you can make us better, then lead the way. What I am against is disrupting the status quo. I will not tolerate users or acts that make our community a worse place.

If there are any comments or concerns, don't hesitate to PM me.

Thank you for your time.


Damn, didn't make the list


Here's that thread btw for ihs
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=422875


Thank you good sir :D
zergnewb
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States816 Posts
August 29 2013 23:45 GMT
#2112
Well I still only really play normals but I know that when an enemy starts splitpushing properly it is one of the most frustrating things for me to deal with, especially if they are already ahead it pushes their advantage so hard. But we probably just don't react well.
Welcome to the Durst-Zone
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
August 29 2013 23:46 GMT
#2113
On August 30 2013 07:59 MoonBear wrote:
I think there is and has been for the longest time room for a Day[9] show in almost every competitive game. But I think it's important to realise that what Day[9] achieved was not only due to hard work but also had several fortuitous and unique factors that worked out. For instance, TL was the de facto place for Starcraft. That made it simple to target the vast majority of the target audience you specifically want while also being able to interact with them on an almost personal level and not being so distant. Now-a-days for many titles, the fan base is spread out thinly through many sites and it's hard to be able to have such a convenient method to both gain exposure as well as interact with people outside of your product in the same way.

But to be honest, it's also a bad idea to go out with a specific plan to try and "make it big" in the YouTube age. While TotalBiscuit says some rather odd things at times, he has said one very good piece of advice many times that I think has a lot of truth and wisdom to it. People make it big with video content like on YouTube sometimes more by accident than anything else, because they put in the effort and dedication to make something people enjoy.

Just focus on creating something that's great, and most importantly, something you enjoy doing (so that way slaving away at it for $0 won't feel like such a drag). Build it, and maybe they will come. If they go, awesome. If they don't, at least it was fun right?

The funny part about all this is that Diamond simply said he wants to do it and needs help, and all the criticism of whether it'll work or not or be successful came from forum posters.

One of the problems with content creation is that if you don't get the views, sometimes, you don't get feedback you need. Sometimes you need improvement in areas that you haven't even thought of, which is especially true when it comes to very technical things.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-29 23:51:23
August 29 2013 23:47 GMT
#2114
On August 30 2013 07:09 SagaZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 07:07 MattBarry wrote:
I don't understand ezreal. When I get really fed in lane I still feel like I do no damage in team fights, even with trinity builds.

It's cause you're not asian
American ezreal no damage

EU Ez's do negative damage.
On August 30 2013 08:06 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 07:07 MattBarry wrote:
I don't understand ezreal. When I get really fed in lane I still feel like I do no damage in team fights, even with trinity builds.


Because trinity isn't that good of an item.Not going blue build is still pretty pointless on ez.Might as well pick something else.Muramana rush is da best.

What? Trinity makes up for a lot of damage Ez lost during the switch to S3. S2 Ez build is very strong now with improved triforce, obviously if you don't have a team to peel for you like a regular ADC, then Blue Build is still very strong, however playing Ez as a regular ADC is possible now.
liftlift > tsm
.AK
Profile Joined September 2010
United States561 Posts
August 29 2013 23:48 GMT
#2115
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 30 2013 08:21 NeoIllusions wrote:
After having a discussion with staff about certain polarizing individuals and their impact to the TL LoL community, these are my thoughts. Consider this a formal notice to all.

PrinceXizor, you are a fairly amiable character in our subforum, but your theorycraft has brought upon the chagrin of many. While theorycraft in general is never frowned upon, you do very little to justify your stance. I would like to point out #6 on our TL LoL Ten Commandments, "Thou shall justify opinions properly". You've made numerous statements in the past of varying validity, but your commentary about how armor/level runes are better than flat armor runes is one that stands out in particular. When 100% of pro players across the globe use flat armor runes and you suggest that armor/level is better, realize how ridiculous you sound.

Whether you realize it or not, whether you accept it or not, your opinions have been consistently part of the overwhelming minority. Justify your opinions with firsthand evidence or have someone else test out your theories but there will be no more enthusiastic claims by you. It only leads to the rest of the page (if not multiple pages) in General Discussion of users trying to convince you otherwise.

Roffles, on most days, you are an entertaining character. During in-houses, you're a great host and you give solid advice. Unfortunately, your bedside manner is borderline derogatory. I am a supporter of "tough love", especially when it comes to doling out lessons but you often take it a step beyond that.

Recognize who you're talking to and don't just talk down to everyone. Make sure the target of your banter won't take it as harassment.

XilDarkz (Mathies), as one of the newer members to our TL LoL community, you have gotten on the wrong side of a number of our users, both on the subforum and during in-houses. I won't absolve you of all blame but I do recognize that it is reaching a point where others are bandwagon'ing against you. First and foremost, I ask you to act with a bit more humility. In all honesty, you're a Gold player right now and there's nothing wrong with that. But when you claim that you can consistently beat ("utterly dominate") Plats and Diamonds yet you think RoA and Tear is the best opening for Syndra (it's not), then you draw the ire of many.

For your situation, it's a two-way street. Act with a little bit of class and realize where you are as a player; people won't be so eager to jump on you. Drop the superiority complex.

Overall, I think our community is at a good place: we have a solid staff, a surprisingly active and fun in-house system, and we only look to aim higher come Worlds and Season 4.

I am never against challenging the status quo of TL LoL. If you think you can make us better, then lead the way. What I am against is disrupting the status quo. I will not tolerate users or acts that make our community a worse place.

If there are any comments or concerns, don't hesitate to PM me.

Thank you for your time.


Are there any actions to these words (more banning etc.) or is this just a PSA?
All hail the glorious I sell T.Vs at Best Buy || #1 REQUIZEN FANBOI || IGN: .AK/BEST ANTIMAGE NA || Plat IV ADC Main
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
August 29 2013 23:52 GMT
#2116
On August 30 2013 08:47 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 07:09 SagaZ wrote:
On August 30 2013 07:07 MattBarry wrote:
I don't understand ezreal. When I get really fed in lane I still feel like I do no damage in team fights, even with trinity builds.

It's cause you're not asian
American ezreal no damage

EU Ez's do negative damage.
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 08:06 nafta wrote:
On August 30 2013 07:07 MattBarry wrote:
I don't understand ezreal. When I get really fed in lane I still feel like I do no damage in team fights, even with trinity builds.


Because trinity isn't that good of an item.Not going blue build is still pretty pointless on ez.Might as well pick something else.Muramana rush is da best.

What? Trinity makes up for a lot of damage Ez lost during the switch to S3. S2 Ez build is very strong now with improved triforce, obviously if you don't have a team to peel for you like a regular ADC, then Blue Build is still very strong, however playing Ez as a regular ADC is possible now.


It is possible to play ad heimerdonger as well.Doesn't mean it is optimal.His kit is just not that good for an ad compared to the other kits for a standart ad atm.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-29 23:55:24
August 29 2013 23:52 GMT
#2117
On August 30 2013 08:48 .AK wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 30 2013 08:21 NeoIllusions wrote:
After having a discussion with staff about certain polarizing individuals and their impact to the TL LoL community, these are my thoughts. Consider this a formal notice to all.

PrinceXizor, you are a fairly amiable character in our subforum, but your theorycraft has brought upon the chagrin of many. While theorycraft in general is never frowned upon, you do very little to justify your stance. I would like to point out #6 on our TL LoL Ten Commandments, "Thou shall justify opinions properly". You've made numerous statements in the past of varying validity, but your commentary about how armor/level runes are better than flat armor runes is one that stands out in particular. When 100% of pro players across the globe use flat armor runes and you suggest that armor/level is better, realize how ridiculous you sound.

Whether you realize it or not, whether you accept it or not, your opinions have been consistently part of the overwhelming minority. Justify your opinions with firsthand evidence or have someone else test out your theories but there will be no more enthusiastic claims by you. It only leads to the rest of the page (if not multiple pages) in General Discussion of users trying to convince you otherwise.

Roffles, on most days, you are an entertaining character. During in-houses, you're a great host and you give solid advice. Unfortunately, your bedside manner is borderline derogatory. I am a supporter of "tough love", especially when it comes to doling out lessons but you often take it a step beyond that.

Recognize who you're talking to and don't just talk down to everyone. Make sure the target of your banter won't take it as harassment.

XilDarkz (Mathies), as one of the newer members to our TL LoL community, you have gotten on the wrong side of a number of our users, both on the subforum and during in-houses. I won't absolve you of all blame but I do recognize that it is reaching a point where others are bandwagon'ing against you. First and foremost, I ask you to act with a bit more humility. In all honesty, you're a Gold player right now and there's nothing wrong with that. But when you claim that you can consistently beat ("utterly dominate") Plats and Diamonds yet you think RoA and Tear is the best opening for Syndra (it's not), then you draw the ire of many.

For your situation, it's a two-way street. Act with a little bit of class and realize where you are as a player; people won't be so eager to jump on you. Drop the superiority complex.

Overall, I think our community is at a good place: we have a solid staff, a surprisingly active and fun in-house system, and we only look to aim higher come Worlds and Season 4.

I am never against challenging the status quo of TL LoL. If you think you can make us better, then lead the way. What I am against is disrupting the status quo. I will not tolerate users or acts that make our community a worse place.

If there are any comments or concerns, don't hesitate to PM me.

Thank you for your time.


Are there any actions to these words (more banning etc.) or is this just a PSA?

Sounds like just a PSA, Roffles and PX both already got 2day ban by heyoka.
Pretty much Neo saying "don't be like these dudes".
On August 30 2013 08:52 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 08:47 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2013 07:09 SagaZ wrote:
On August 30 2013 07:07 MattBarry wrote:
I don't understand ezreal. When I get really fed in lane I still feel like I do no damage in team fights, even with trinity builds.

It's cause you're not asian
American ezreal no damage

EU Ez's do negative damage.
On August 30 2013 08:06 nafta wrote:
On August 30 2013 07:07 MattBarry wrote:
I don't understand ezreal. When I get really fed in lane I still feel like I do no damage in team fights, even with trinity builds.


Because trinity isn't that good of an item.Not going blue build is still pretty pointless on ez.Might as well pick something else.Muramana rush is da best.

What? Trinity makes up for a lot of damage Ez lost during the switch to S3. S2 Ez build is very strong now with improved triforce, obviously if you don't have a team to peel for you like a regular ADC, then Blue Build is still very strong, however playing Ez as a regular ADC is possible now.


It is possible to play ad heimerdonger as well.Doesn't mean it is optimal.His kit is just not that good for an ad compared to the other kits for a standart ad atm.

I think you underestimate the amount of damage new triforce does, especially paired with BT or IE (or both).
Blue Build was nice, because you could essentially run a full dive/skirmish comp without sacrificing your AD to getting caught and wrecked in fights. But, if you're in a standard team comp, that can peel for you decently, and still make use of Ez's insane ability to peel for himself (even without blue build), then there's no reason not to run Triforce Ez.
liftlift > tsm
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
August 29 2013 23:53 GMT
#2118
Consider it a PSA and an official word from Neo about recent happenings and what it means going forwards.

I find it sad whenever someone needs to be banned in our subforum because it means something's gone wrong somewhere, and almost every time it was avoidable in some way so let's try to all get along and be happy. ^^
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 29 2013 23:57 GMT
#2119
On August 30 2013 08:38 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Moonbear in the middle of his sage advice decides to reference Field of Dreams and totally makes me forget what he was talking about in the rush to post this post.
:|

More on-topic though, what do you guys think of the place for splitpushing in LoL? I tend to do it almost every game, and I think it's one of the best strategies and one of the easiest, but I'm not very smart and I'm probably being biased because it takes away so much responsibility from the splitpusher (usually me). It is affected partially because I play mostly characters like Vlad, Rango, Shen, and Nidalee, but do you guys think it's overrated? My friends often tell me so.

Also, thanks for the post Neo. TL LoL has gone through a lot of changes these past few months, and I expect that they will only begin to increase as LoL inevitably grows. I think after this season there's going to be a lot of casual LoL fans going to find out more about the professional scene and a website to discuss such scene, and inevitably some will find our little Team Liquid here. But yeah, you were a lot more diplomatic than you needed to be, but I'm all about diplomacy ^_^


This seems to indicate to me that splitpushing is really good in soloQ. http://www.lolking.net/charts?region=all&type=champion-winrate&range=weekly&map=sr&queue=1x1&league=diamond

Nid, Kass, Trynd, and Teemo Top 10? Singed is usually pretty successful as well.
Freeeeeeedom
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 29 2013 23:58 GMT
#2120
split pushing much harder to run in actual 5's, where coordination is much better (though it's still a very strong strategy).
split pushing in solo queue can pretty much allow you to single handily with the game for you team.
liftlift > tsm
Prev 1 104 105 106 107 108 156 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
08:00
OSC Elite Rising Star #21
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 114
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 3675
Hyuk 1241
Mong 499
Stork 412
ProTech177
Jaedong 175
Dewaltoss 131
soO 24
Killer 16
ajuk12(nOOB) 7
[ Show more ]
Force[name] 4
Counter-Strike
fl0m2643
Other Games
summit1g10057
Doublelift3623
Coldzera 767
JimRising 498
C9.Mang0264
Fuzer 122
NeuroSwarm65
ViBE61
Railgan9
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL96
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 30
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Laughngamez YouTube
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 3
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2223
League of Legends
• Rush964
• Lourlo769
• Stunt361
Upcoming Events
IntoTheTV X SOOP
1d 3h
Reynor vs Solar
ByuN vs SHIN
Clem vs MaxPax
herO vs Rogue
IPSL
1d 9h
WorsT vs nOmaD
Dewalt vs andersOn
AI Arena Tournament
1d 11h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
2 days
IPSL
2 days
Azhi_Dahaki vs ggnore13
Double vs WIZARD
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
YoungYakov vs Lambo
SHIN vs TBD
Percival vs Shameless
Solar vs TBD
PiGosaur Cup
4 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
6 days
KCM Race Survival
6 days
WardiTV Invitational
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-04
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026

Upcoming

Sector 951
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Underdog Cup 2026 Div 2-3
PGL Bucharest 2027
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.