EPTTy in advance :D
[Patch 3.10a: Worlds Balance] General Discussion - Page 107
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Neverhood
United States5388 Posts
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MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On August 30 2013 08:57 cLutZ wrote: This seems to indicate to me that splitpushing is really good in soloQ. http://www.lolking.net/charts?region=all&type=champion-winrate&range=weekly&map=sr&queue=1x1&league=diamond Nid, Kass, Trynd, and Teemo Top 10? Singed is usually pretty successful as well. Splitpushing has heightened effectiveness in solo queue because generally you don't splitpush unless you're powerful enough to at least 1v1 decently. Also, one of the best counters to being splitpushed is to just go 5-man kill the other team, even diving them under the tower if need be and taking all of their base. Of course, in solo queue this kind of co-ordination is much harder to pull off than in a proper team of 5. A lot of teams also respond badly to being split pushed and aren't very decisive about making a decision or in keeping their wave pushed out so they can then focus on making an actual play. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On August 30 2013 08:52 wei2coolman wrote: I think you underestimate the amount of damage new triforce does, especially paired with BT or IE (or both). Blue Build was nice, because you could essentially run a full dive/skirmish comp without sacrificing your AD to getting caught and wrecked in fights. But, if you're in a standard team comp, that can peel for you decently, and still make use of Ez's insane ability to peel for himself (even without blue build), then there's no reason not to run Triforce Ez. His damage really is subpar.Only mid game it is decent but it's all downhill from there.It's also a problem that ez loses to every other ad in lane unless you outplay them hard or your support is superior or you get a ton of ganks. | ||
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Haiq343
United States2548 Posts
On August 30 2013 08:53 MoonBear wrote: Consider it a PSA and an official word from Neo about recent happenings and what it means going forwards. I find it sad whenever someone needs to be banned in our subforum because it means something's gone wrong somewhere, and almost every time it was avoidable in some way so let's try to all get along and be happy. ^^ Does this mean we're allowed to do fish puns? + Show Spoiler + <3 Re: Split Push. A lot of the best response to Splitpushing requires some planning in addition to the coordination MB mentioned. Having the waves forward in place to force objectives etc is important to not letting the splitter get your inhib turrets before you can do anything useful. Which is again why it's good in FFA queue. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On August 30 2013 08:59 Neverhood wrote: Any1 that plays a lot of ranked 3s wanna gimme a quick rundown of op champs and strats? Haven't played TT like at all since they updated it >< Ty in advance :D Bruisers are op'd, therefore Elise. On August 30 2013 09:03 nafta wrote: His damage really is subpar.Only mid game it is decent but it's all downhill from there.It's also a problem that ez loses to every other ad in lane unless you outplay them hard or your support is superior or you get a ton of ganks. Ez's only lose in lane, cuz bluebuild requires them to be 700 gold behind in items because tears, essentially a vamp sceptre behind, or longsword + boots difference. If you go S2-triforce build with him, he does just fine in lane. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On the other hand when there's a splitpusher on the team and the rest actively understands to help him ward the paths from our lanes to his, communicate with pings, and never go close to him but rather take objectives elsewhere and avoid fighting when it's 4v5, it really feels great. A standard 5v5 teamfight can be a mumbo jumbo of people mashing keys and your team comes out ahead seemingly at random because of gold differential or some guy playing really well, however for some reason going along a splitpushing situation smoothly feels much more like the team is on the same page. Most of the time there is "that one guy" who'll rush the enemy team before anyone leaves to deal with our splitpusher and ruin it though. :< | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On August 30 2013 09:04 wei2coolman wrote: Ez's only lose in lane, cuz bluebuild requires them to be 700 gold behind in items because tears, essentially a vamp sceptre behind, or longsword + boots difference. If you go S2-triforce build with him, he does just fine in lane. This is a common mistake a lot of people seem to have.That really isn't the reason.Vamp wouldn't change anything.Any ad with vamp>ez with vamp.With tear you just don't trade at all you only poke and farm safely.You go 2x longswords if you have an all in support and hope they misposition. The problem with ez in lane is that if you just stay in creeps you outtrade him straight up.So it all comes down to the supports.As I said if ez wins lane his opponent misplayed the lane. | ||
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silencefc
United States875 Posts
Most supports don't stand in the creep wave and there's like a belief that you don't all-in the support if the AD is there so a lot of supports position dangerously. When there is a Sona, she is going to be way, way easier to kill than an AD with Doran's Blade + Barrier. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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Duvon
Sweden2360 Posts
On August 30 2013 09:17 silencefc wrote: I think the secret to winning bottom lane, especially with Ezreal, is poking down the support and bursting him. Most supports don't stand in the creep wave and there's like a belief that you don't all-in the support if the AD is there so a lot of supports position dangerously. When there is a Sona, she is going to be way, way easier to kill than an AD with Doran's Blade + Barrier. Bad stuff happens when the support lives long enough do do damage + put an exhaust, netting his AD a double kill though... | ||
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XilDarkz
United States563 Posts
(Disclosure: I received a warning for minor rule violations some time ago, posting in the wrong place--not like the wanton flagrant rule breaking of the others.) | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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mordek
United States12704 Posts
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
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Haiq343
United States2548 Posts
On August 30 2013 09:39 XilDarkz wrote: I haven't received any warnings or messages, which I find weird when I'm placed in a list alongside people who were banned. (Disclosure: I received a warning for minor rule violations some time ago, posting in the wrong place--not like the wanton flagrant rule breaking of the others.) Read the post. It's pretty clear what Neo/ModSquad's concerns & requests are. | ||
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MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On August 30 2013 09:39 XilDarkz wrote: I haven't received any warnings or messages, which I find weird when I'm placed in a list alongside people who were banned. (Disclosure: I received a warning for minor rule violations some time ago, posting in the wrong place--not like the wanton flagrant rule breaking of the others.) Just see it as a "Hey there's some stuff you're currently doing which we don't think is cool, so we're just letting you know to reel it back a bit cause we really don't want to have to stage an intervention cause if that happens no one wins."  | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Neo's a softy. | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On August 30 2013 09:39 XilDarkz wrote: I haven't received any warnings or messages, which I find weird when I'm placed in a list alongside people who were banned. (Disclosure: I received a warning for minor rule violations some time ago, posting in the wrong place--not like the wanton flagrant rule breaking of the others.) lol I'd back PX over you any day of the week. You're an asshat. PX just has dumb ideas and won't back them up. You sir are a cancer to society because of how you behave and treat other TL members who are trying to play and learn in the same game as you. Look at your stream thread. It's a cesspool of shit, even after I left it. Want to know why? Because you're infesting it with the plague. User was warned for this post | ||
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Amarok
Australia2003 Posts
On August 30 2013 08:06 nafta wrote: Because trinity isn't that good of an item.Not going blue build is still pretty pointless on ez.Might as well pick something else.Muramana rush is da best. I've had a great time on Trinity Ez. Trinity/Botrk/CD boots are core. It feels weak before BotRK but very strong afterwards. You do more aa damage than blue, and still have excellent poke and very good disengage from fights. You can play really close to the edge while still remaining safe and it's very valuable to do so. You just don't have that full team kite potential that blue has. I've only played a few games with it though. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On August 30 2013 09:50 mordek wrote: You're being obtuse Xil. Just let it go and take the advice. And he wonders why he's being brought up with Roffles and PX in the message... | ||
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