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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
On August 30 2013 12:04 onlywonderboy wrote: Even a public slap on the wrist can't stop the Roffles real talk train. Roffles can't afford to feel shame or pain on his quest of righteousness. | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On August 30 2013 12:19 InfSunday wrote: I expect more smiles now. Was gonna say "Smile before me!" but it just sounded so odd that I couldn't but had to add a meta-comment explaining it. Or something like that. So, 3v3's to get that Elise+skin are surprisingly fun because Teemo is OP. Mushrooms on a map where you can't buy wards? C'mon, easy. Just gotta pray the enemy doesn't buy Lightbringer or Hextech Sweeper Hell, or even just Oracles Extract. | ||
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InfSunday
United States735 Posts
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Fealthas
607 Posts
On August 30 2013 11:47 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: i think we should ban more people You can ban me for a week. Need no distractions. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On August 30 2013 12:28 InfSunday wrote: Yeah, but silver league, man. You're making the classic mistake of assuming my opponents know something. TOO TRUE | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On August 30 2013 12:36 Fealthas wrote: How important is bortk on zed? I usually get cutlas + LW + brut and finish it quite late. When I watch OGN I see zeds rush bortk. It seems more effective to just buy more ad instead of finishing cutlas? You can ban me for a week. Need no distractions. Botrk is a absolute must to finish. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On August 30 2013 12:36 Fealthas wrote: How important is bortk on zed? I usually get cutlas + LW + brut and finish it quite late. When I watch OGN I see zeds rush bortk. It seems more effective to just buy more ad instead of finishing cutlas? You can ban me for a week. Need no distractions. If you're considerably ahead, Bruta after Cutlass is acceptable. Otherwise standard is BotRK first for maximum damage with Death Mark. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35091 Posts
On August 30 2013 12:28 InfSunday wrote: Yeah, but silver league, man. You're making the classic mistake of assuming my opponents know something. Half the time I buy an Oracles...nothing. | ||
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InfSunday
United States735 Posts
I know the feeling, half the time as support I end up with like an AP item or two because oracles is so useless. Just pink baron and dragon... meh. Probably better practice to still get oracles, but I like doing damage as Janna. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On August 30 2013 12:42 NeoIllusions wrote: If you're considerably ahead, Bruta after Cutlass is acceptable. Otherwise standard is BotRK first for maximum damage with Death Mark. Look at what the enemy is doing too-- if he stacks HP, Bork, if he stacks armor, bruta. Bork active does 15% max + 5% current blah blah blah, but consider bruta an effective 10% increase in overall damage (because every point of armor is +1% EHP) Then you have to decide between the CDR and lifesteal. Generall though Bork is going to be a much bigger power spike-- a little harder to calculate, but my gut tells me it gives more than 10% increased damage. | ||
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Fealthas
607 Posts
edit: Now that I think about it, ogn isnt soloq so they can tell their team to not die while they wait for their powerspike. | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On August 30 2013 10:35 cLutZ wrote: I kinda like the idea, but I dont think phage needs to build into another item with crit. Plus that item is totally OP. It would be nice if it built into another item though, like something for Non-Irelia/Jax, melle characters that might prefer a tankier option over Triforce (or in the case that you are going BORTK and dont really want TF). Why can't it build into an AD item with spell vamp  | ||
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Thermia
United States866 Posts
On August 30 2013 13:53 Fealthas wrote: What makes me not want to finish the bork is that you have to pay all 1800 gold, otherwise you get 2 random daggers which dont help you at all. For that money you could have a brut or last whisper parts. edit: Now that I think about it, ogn isnt soloq so they can tell their team to not die while they wait for their powerspike. daggers arent worthless, more autos during your ult + cutlass slow is pretty useful | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On August 30 2013 12:42 NeoIllusions wrote: If you're considerably ahead, Bruta after Cutlass is acceptable. Otherwise standard is BotRK first for maximum damage with Death Mark. Pretty sure when we did Zed math a month or so ago we ascertained that Bruta + Cutlass > BotRK. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19573 Posts
On August 30 2013 13:53 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Why can't it build into an AD item with spell vamp Because AD casters are already impossible to balance properly. | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
On August 30 2013 13:44 ticklishmusic wrote: Look at what the enemy is doing too-- if he stacks HP, Bork, if he stacks armor, bruta. Bork active does 15% max + 5% current blah blah blah, but consider bruta an effective 10% increase in overall damage (because every point of armor is +1% EHP) Then you have to decide between the CDR and lifesteal. Generall though Bork is going to be a much bigger power spike-- a little harder to calculate, but my gut tells me it gives more than 10% increased damage. Brutalizer is only a 10% increase in physical damage if they have really low armor. If they have 10 armor, then brutalizer increases your damage by 10%, but if they have 100 armor the damage increase is more like 5%. | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On August 30 2013 14:05 Ketara wrote: Pretty sure when we did Zed math a month or so ago we ascertained that Bruta + Cutlass > BotRK. I think this is true on squishies who will explode from one rotation, because brut will do more damage then. Against a tanky bruiser you'll probably need significantly more sticking power as well as auto damage so botrk is better then. | ||
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
On August 30 2013 13:20 InfSunday wrote: I know the feeling, half the time as support I end up with like an AP item or two because oracles is so useless. Just pink baron and dragon... meh. Probably better practice to still get oracles, but I like doing damage as Janna. Oracles is useless if the enemy team has 0 wards, but if they have just barely some wards then oracles becomes incredibly powerful because then they think they're safe but you have full vision of them and they have no vision on you. Pretty much all my support games at low Gold I can buy an early oracles and if we're not completely behind, we'll just straight up win the game around 20 mins when half their team facechecks into our whole team. | ||
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Audemed
United States893 Posts
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