EPTWhat is the best support to play in that case? I usually default on fiddles in that case, and feel like it works really well as long as I keep brush control. Any suggestions?
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Anakko
France1934 Posts
What is the best support to play in that case? I usually default on fiddles in that case, and feel like it works really well as long as I keep brush control. Any suggestions? | ||
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JazzVortical
Australia1825 Posts
On August 30 2013 22:16 The_Unseen wrote: So Roffles basically has an immunity? Do you guys have the slightest idea of the impression his never-punished-streams-of-insults give to us lurkers and semi-lurkers? :/ As someone who fits into that category, it makes Roffles look bad, not TL. As WaveOfShadow said, that last comment he made was just old and too much. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
On August 30 2013 22:16 The_Unseen wrote: So Roffles basically has an immunity? Do you guys have the slightest idea of the impression his never-punished-streams-of-insults give to us lurkers and semi-lurkers? :/ from my experience with Roffles during the last 3 years in the KMD & Lol Subforum he never called out someone who doesn't deserve it and I always had the impression that the majority agreed his "victim's" posts were shitty most of the time. He is just more blunt and direct than others. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Nope, it keep going today. I got cursed. ;_; | ||
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
On August 30 2013 22:45 AsnSensation wrote: from my experience with Roffles during the last 3 years in the KMD & Lol Subforum he never called out someone who doesn't deserve it and I always had the impression that the majority agreed his "victim's" posts were shitty most of the time. He is just more blunt and direct than others. But as Wave said bashing on people is getting really old and is polluting the thread in of itself. Let's hold off on it until someone actually deserves it again rather than harping on the past that Neo clearly covered. | ||
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
On August 30 2013 22:42 Anakko wrote: Sometimes during my adventures in normal draft mode, i end up supporting in a botlane where the other teams goes double bruiser kill lane (stuff such as lee, darius, riven, J4, etc...). What is the best support to play in that case? I usually default on fiddles in that case, and feel like it works really well as long as I keep brush control. Any suggestions? When in doubt, Thresh. Him aside as a support main I like Janna, Alistar or Soraka (yes really) against a bruiser kill lane. Alistar if you have actual kill potential, Janna if they have strong initiation and Soraka if you have a hyper carry and just turn it into a afk farm lane and outscale them hard as hell. Nami can work too, but I haven't had as much succes with her. Nidalee can be hilarious too with her great poke and bush control + heal, but your ADC will yell at you for grabbing random kills once you hit level 6. >  | ||
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
On August 30 2013 23:05 Jek wrote: When in doubt, Thresh. Him aside as a support main I like Janna, Alistar or Soraka (yes really) against a bruiser kill lane. Alistar if you have actual kill potential, Janna if they have strong initiation and Soraka if you have a hyper carry and just turn it into a afk farm lane and outscale them hard as hell. Nami can work too, but I haven't had as much succes with her. Nidalee can be hilarious too with her great poke and bush control + heal, but your ADC will yell at you for grabbing random kills once you hit level 6. > Soraka just makes you lose lane harder, and if they zone properly you can't do shit. Nid is just bad, but Janna, Thresh, and even Blitz work quite well. Have to be mindful that they'll win a 2v2 fight so make it as unbalanced as possible (hooking under your turret) or never fight at all (that's what Janna is for). | ||
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
On August 30 2013 16:06 Audemed wrote: Ah, considering it was single targeted, I thought the Q would proc it. Alright, that makes the item less than ideal >.> So, just deal with his mana problems then? Muramana wouldn't be that bad -- it doesn't proc on any of his abilities but his passive procs it twice. I'm not sure it would be the ideal build though. | ||
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
On August 30 2013 23:10 Zdrastochye wrote: Soraka just makes you lose lane harder, and if they zone properly you can't do shit. Nid is just bad, but Janna, Thresh, and even Blitz work quite well. Have to be mindful that they'll win a 2v2 fight so make it as unbalanced as possible (hooking under your turret) or never fight at all (that's what Janna is for). I strongly disagree, you pick her with an ADC that can farm and/or poke with a skill and keep him fueled with mana. Between your ADCs harass and your own (aggressive usage of Infuse) you can often times wear them out over time. With her great armor+heal diving (massive EHP) the ADC is rough as you'll silence the highest skill damage bruiser. She's a very situational against a kill lane, but she can work very well. I'm not really too fond of Blitz against kill lanes, he feels very clunky and only really helpful if they have been so silly as to push the lane to your tower - which they wont unless they want to dive. But overall Thresh, Janna and Alistar are by large and far my favorites against kill lanes. On August 30 2013 23:17 thenexusp wrote: Muramana wouldn't be that bad -- it doesn't proc on any of his abilities but his passive procs it twice. I'm not sure it would be the ideal build though. I've just been carried by a Lucian with max CDR (utility + runes) utilizing Muramana. His build was: Lucidity boots, Muramana, Black Cleaver, Last Whisper and Blood Thirster. Game never got around to sixth item, but I'd imagine he'd grab a GA. He played mid tho and acted as an AD caster rather than regular ADC. Did a billion damage with Muramana + passives. - Muramana as first completed item. He did get FB tho, so he might of just snowballed out of control. | ||
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ExoFun
Netherlands2041 Posts
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
On August 30 2013 22:42 Anakko wrote: Sometimes during my adventures in normal draft mode, i end up supporting in a botlane where the other teams goes double bruiser kill lane (stuff such as lee, darius, riven, J4, etc...). What is the best support to play in that case? I usually default on fiddles in that case, and feel like it works really well as long as I keep brush control. Any suggestions? Fiddle, Janna, Nami. Alistar could work too, but u gotta be insanely careful pre-6. If it's a double AD kill-lane you can always go taric and laugh because of your aura | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12084 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21246 Posts
On August 30 2013 22:45 AsnSensation wrote: from my experience with Roffles during the last 3 years in the KMD & Lol Subforum he never called out someone who doesn't deserve it and I always had the impression that the majority agreed his "victim's" posts were shitty most of the time. He is just more blunt and direct than others. ^pretty much this also roffles has done more for tl than 90% of this forum put together so he get leeway as per ten commandments policy it's really fucking dumb seeing roffles pretty much saying what most people are thinking and getting banned while other shit posters get to keep shit posting it should at least go two ways like last time when they both got banned zz | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
On August 30 2013 23:42 Alaric wrote: Isn't Fiddle super risky because if they have some cc to initiate on him they can just blow him up first before he can Q them, then turn toward the marksman next time their cooldowns are up? What sort of CC are you thinking of? When talking about kill-lanes, fiddle should easily be able to mitigate anything with his fear and just running the fuck away while throwing silence. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12084 Posts
On August 30 2013 23:52 Sponkz wrote: What sort of CC are you thinking of? When talking about kill-lanes, fiddle should easily be able to mitigate anything with his fear and just running the fuck away while throwing silence. Leona E+Qs him, J4 E+Qs him. Given both ranges are greater than his fear (not his silence, but that's 1.2s), he dies. Using Leo/J4 because it's the archetypical double bruisers bot lane (and was used by Goose/Atlanta's team a couple times). | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
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Thermia
United States866 Posts
On August 30 2013 23:56 Lord Tolkien wrote: Leona E+Qs him, J4 E+Qs him. Given both ranges are greater than his fear (not his silence, but that's 1.2s), he dies. leona eq isnt instantaneous, you should be able to fear her before q goes off assuming decent reaction time | ||
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