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On August 30 2013 23:56 Lord Tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 23:52 Sponkz wrote:On August 30 2013 23:42 Alaric wrote:
Isn't Fiddle super risky because if they have some cc to initiate on him they can just blow him up first before he can Q them, then turn toward the marksman next time their cooldowns are up? What sort of CC are you thinking of? When talking about kill-lanes, fiddle should easily be able to mitigate anything with his fear and just running the fuck away while throwing silence. Leona E+Qs him, J4 E+Qs him. Given both ranges are greater than his fear (not his silence, but that's 1.2s), he dies.
In my head, a lane that includes a support isn't a kill-lane lawl. Leona hard-counters fiddle, the only natural pick here is Janna. Fiddle is best versus kill lanes that include something like xin zhao, lee sin, darius etc.
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On August 30 2013 23:59 Sponkz wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 23:56 Lord Tolkien wrote:On August 30 2013 23:52 Sponkz wrote:On August 30 2013 23:42 Alaric wrote:
Isn't Fiddle super risky because if they have some cc to initiate on him they can just blow him up first before he can Q them, then turn toward the marksman next time their cooldowns are up? What sort of CC are you thinking of? When talking about kill-lanes, fiddle should easily be able to mitigate anything with his fear and just running the fuck away while throwing silence. Leona E+Qs him, J4 E+Qs him. Given both ranges are greater than his fear (not his silence, but that's 1.2s), he dies. In my head, a lane that includes a support isn't a kill-lane lawl. Leona hard-counters fiddle, the only natural pick here is Janna. Fiddle is best versus kill lanes that include something like xin zhao, lee sin, darius etc.
J4/Leona is one of the original kill lanes iirc mtw.na when they were picture of a goose used it to qualify for IEM.
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Oh yeah i know who ran J4/Leona (just a shame during the clip that can be found on youtube, you see their graves getting absolutely shit on top, but that's another story) but i thought he was referring to double bruiser lanes not support+bruiser.
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On August 30 2013 23:58 Thermia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 23:56 Lord Tolkien wrote:On August 30 2013 23:52 Sponkz wrote:On August 30 2013 23:42 Alaric wrote:
Isn't Fiddle super risky because if they have some cc to initiate on him they can just blow him up first before he can Q them, then turn toward the marksman next time their cooldowns are up? What sort of CC are you thinking of? When talking about kill-lanes, fiddle should easily be able to mitigate anything with his fear and just running the fuck away while throwing silence. Leona E+Qs him, J4 E+Qs him. Given both ranges are greater than his fear (not his silence, but that's 1.2s), he dies. leona eq isnt instantaneous, you should be able to fear her before q goes off assuming decent reaction time
The E has a slight snare effect, which is more than enough for a J4 to chain it on even if a fear comes out on Leona for the knockup (which lasts long enough early levels to allow Leona to then hit the Q after the fear wears off).
It's not a good time for Fiddlesticks, regardless. The best supports in a double bruiser lane are the ones that can peel/disengage very well, and prevent them from getting into range in the first place (Alistar, Janna).
On August 31 2013 00:02 Sponkz wrote:
Oh yeah i know who ran J4/Leona (just a shame during the clip that can be found on youtube, you see their graves getting absolutely shit on top, but that's another story) but i thought he was referring to double bruiser lanes not support+bruiser.
My assumption was he was referring to the double melee kill lanes that circulate every so often, even the very old ones like Garen/Taric or Sion/Taric (lolol).
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On August 30 2013 23:57 Fusilero wrote:
Played TF for the first time in a long time post nerf. Probably the most embarassing match I've ever played every gank "Ok I'll TP in an... HEY MY CARD TIMED OUT"
You should pretty much always pick a card after casting ult.
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On August 31 2013 00:03 1ntrigue wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 23:57 Fusilero wrote:
Played TF for the first time in a long time post nerf. Probably the most embarassing match I've ever played every gank "Ok I'll TP in an... HEY MY CARD TIMED OUT" You should pretty much always pick a card after casting ult.
Pre drawing is such an instinct drilled into me so I freaked out when it times out.
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On August 30 2013 23:49 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 22:45 AsnSensation wrote:On August 30 2013 22:16 The_Unseen wrote:
So Roffles basically has an immunity? Do you guys have the slightest idea of the impression his never-punished-streams-of-insults give to us lurkers and semi-lurkers? :/ from my experience with Roffles during the last 3 years in the KMD & Lol Subforum he never called out someone who doesn't deserve it and I always had the impression that the majority agreed his "victim's" posts were shitty most of the time. He is just more blunt and direct than others. ^pretty much this also roffles has done more for tl than 90% of this forum put together so he get leeway as per ten commandments policy it's really fucking dumb seeing roffles pretty much saying what most people are thinking and getting banned while other shit posters get to keep shit posting it should at least go two ways like last time when they both got banned zz
It would be nice if 90% of his posts weren't drive by douchings.
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On August 30 2013 23:57 Fusilero wrote:
Played TF for the first time in a long time post nerf. Probably the most embarassing match I've ever played every gank "Ok I'll TP in an... HEY MY CARD TIMED OUT"
I've seen it happen so often since that nerf. I don't play him but with the few times I tried him when he was free I can imagine how awkward it is to change the routine you drilled in for so long.
About the kill lanes I was thinking about "instant" cc with longer range than Terrify, yeah, so stuff like J4 and Pantheon.
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On August 31 2013 00:23 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 23:49 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On August 30 2013 22:45 AsnSensation wrote:On August 30 2013 22:16 The_Unseen wrote:
So Roffles basically has an immunity? Do you guys have the slightest idea of the impression his never-punished-streams-of-insults give to us lurkers and semi-lurkers? :/ from my experience with Roffles during the last 3 years in the KMD & Lol Subforum he never called out someone who doesn't deserve it and I always had the impression that the majority agreed his "victim's" posts were shitty most of the time. He is just more blunt and direct than others. ^pretty much this also roffles has done more for tl than 90% of this forum put together so he get leeway as per ten commandments policy it's really fucking dumb seeing roffles pretty much saying what most people are thinking and getting banned while other shit posters get to keep shit posting it should at least go two ways like last time when they both got banned zz It would be nice if 90% of his posts weren't drive by douchings.
Then he'd be Yango. We can't more than one Yango.
Mother Teresa in male form = Roffles
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So as of last night, LPL is on 3.10.
Unfortunately, they're still not on 3.10a. If Riot hadn't released that patch they'd be up to date now. Riot pls.
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On August 31 2013 00:42 TheYango wrote:
So as of last night, LPL is on 3.10.
Unfortunately, they're still not on 3.10a. If Riot hadn't released that patch they'd be up to date now. Riot pls.
Isn't it more like Tencent pls?
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On August 31 2013 00:42 TheYango wrote:
So as of last night, LPL is on 3.10.
Unfortunately, they're still not on 3.10a. If Riot hadn't released that patch they'd be up to date now. Riot pls.
I feel like the patch difference for China is just a gag at this point. Why so hard to get up to date?
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On August 31 2013 00:56 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 00:42 TheYango wrote:
So as of last night, LPL is on 3.10.
Unfortunately, they're still not on 3.10a. If Riot hadn't released that patch they'd be up to date now. Riot pls. I feel like the patch difference for China is just a gag at this point. Why so hard to get up to date?
Tencent being incredibly lazy probably.
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Why don't they just wait to employ the patch everywhere else when China is ready too. Seems like the logical compromise.
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I just saw the inhouse thread for NA, is there something like that for EUW?
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There's also like 20 servers run by two seperate telecom companies. Sometimes there's imaging changes with the skulls, and in the case of something like spirit udyr (which we got much later), they had to do the translation for the comic, and new champs are often disabled on patch day due to what I assume is due to translation time/chinese voice acting etc?
Otherwise I don't know.
EDIT: Tencent runs more servers than Riot does, pretty sure.
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On August 31 2013 01:10 Numy wrote:
Why don't they just wait to employ the patch everywhere else when China is ready too. Seems like the logical compromise.
Because that would make sense, and this is Riot.
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I mean, it's not like the other regions got to practice the patch because every Regionals is still on 3.10 anyway.
The patch was just a stupid idea this close to Worlds.
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But the patch will bring more enjoyable games from my point of view. The league of Spirit visage/Zac was so boring to watch. And the patch isnt really that of a big deal.
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