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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
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Mythito
Canada230 Posts
On November 03 2011 04:04 GoldRogers wrote: He was obviously carried by his grandmaster partner (destructive). Destructive did many crucial games that on the games (Ie reactor blocks). Protech is a low level masters league player who only knows how to all in. This is common knowledge. He claims that 60% of his games goto "macro - IE 2 base LOL" but thats only after his all in fails. Expanding at 11 minutes does not condone macro. I do agree that we need more 2v2 players to stream but protech is a horrible representation and gives a terrible representation of what a "high ranked 2v2 player" is (all in every game, accuse enemies of hacking/stream cheating, constant bm to anyone that beats him). This was clearly evident earlier in this thread even before he got defeatured. Many people complained of being banned after beating him for no reason other than his little hissy fits. Protech is a terrible representation of the 2v2 community, he is racist, paranoid of everyone stream cheating, can only cheese, offensive to any 2v2 random partner that he plays with and loses and is extremely ill mannered and immature. There is a need for a high level 2v2 stream, but protech is the absolute worst candidate. zerg is a support race in 2v2, just like in brood war, did zerg ever get a higher score than the p/t in brood war? no, does that mean that every zerg in 2v2 sucked? no, why else would having a zerg on your team in brood war be absolutely essential? i never saw a 2v2 in bw without a zerg playing muta support to the immobile p/t deathballs. getting more than 2 base in 2v2 is hard. having watched most z33k 2v2 weeklys and the PSTL tournies, and a lot of the 2v2s in the EG masters cups.. i can tell you no one ever consistently gets more than 2 bases. he's not racist, he is paranoid of everyone stream cheating but only because of the shitheads like mannerchomp and proclan trolling him, he is as offensive as idra and no more so. protech isn't perfect, but he is the best 2v2 candidate so far, and what more can you ask? | ||
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GoldRogers
19 Posts
On November 03 2011 04:18 Mythito wrote: he's not racist, he is paranoid of everyone stream cheating but only because of the shitheads like mannerchomp and proclan trolling him, he is as offensive as idra and no more so. protech isn't perfect, but he is the best 2v2 candidate so far, and what more can you ask? He liberally uses the derogatory term "Nigger" and "Nigga" on stream. But I guess hes not racist right? If he SAYS hes not racist and uses "Nigger" as a offensive term to call people, he CAN'T be racist right? Its sad when his few fanboy's blatantly lie in a desperate attempt to save his joke a of a reputation. | ||
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askTeivospy
1525 Posts
On November 03 2011 04:16 dAPhREAk wrote: i meant complain to mods in private, not complain to protech. i assume most people who dont like him wouldn't bother to complain to him. i am not going to go through the sotg vods and find the reference. jp said something to the effect of "protech's stream is something you have to watch at least once in your life" and everyone laughed. he wasn't saying it in a complimentary manner though. it may have been a reference to his 3v3 or 4v4 games though to be fair. Um they were talking about streamers that don't get enough viewers in that SOTG, protechs name came up right away /shake head See its people like you that say these things and then people who don't know anything about protech are like "oMG manner chomp and some guy said things its the truth!!" Look at mannerchomp, the most vocal one of you. I've proven he is a hypocritical lying annoying little kid who teamkills people he doesn't like and is admitted "future" streamcheater just in this thread. Outside of this thread I have BANNED him at least 20 times on his "MANNERCHOMP###" twitch TV accounts and probably a lot more on the smurf accounts that randomly come in and say something doggish. Protech HAS proven that he is a stream cheater in my eyes (hint: I'm a scientist, I look at things objectively and without bias). You wonder why Protech doesn't give the time of day to random people he meets online ala you? Because the people at the top level are consistently BM, rude and annoying and a few of them were friends who turned into scumbags. Also if you go through the news threads, a good number of what i'd consider high profile non teamliquid people vouch for protech. Ya I'm sure people talk in private about how hes bad but considering he was getting around 300-400 viewers i'm sure theres a lot more that talk about how he's an entertaining broadcaster who has to deal with so much shit. | ||
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Mythito
Canada230 Posts
On November 03 2011 04:26 GoldRogers wrote: He liberally uses the derogatory term "Nigger" and "Nigga" on stream. But I guess hes not racist right? If he SAYS hes not racist and uses "Nigger" as a offensive term to call people, he CAN'T be racist right? Its sad when his few fanboy's blatantly lie in a desperate attempt to save his joke a of a reputation. mm and everyone who uses the word gay disparagingly is a homophobe? everyone who uses the word retard is prejudice against mentally handicapped? racism isn't binary, it's not a 1 or a 0, it's a scale, and unless you're actively discriminating by not serving certain ethnicities in a store or something like that, who the fuck cares? saying nigger to random people on the internet who you don't know anything beyond a username is like a 3 on a scale of 1 to 10. | ||
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GoldRogers
19 Posts
On November 03 2011 04:31 Mythito wrote: mm and everyone who uses the word gay disparagingly is a homophobe? everyone who uses the word retard is prejudice against mentally handicapped? racism isn't binary, it's not a 1 or a 0, it's a scale, and unless you're actively discriminating by not serving certain ethnicities in a store or something like that, who the fuck cares? saying nigger to random people on the internet who you don't know anything beyond a username is like a 3 on a scale of 1 to 10. I guess that why blizzard doesn't have a report button for racism. OH WAIT. Go call someone a nigger on team liquid see what happens. Its still on the internet right? Your logic is terribly flawed. Racism is not acceptable anywhere, just because YOU think its acceptable doesn't mean the rest of the community does. Your low standards for interaction is not shared by everyone else, I'm sorry. | ||
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askTeivospy
1525 Posts
On November 03 2011 04:34 GoldRogers wrote: I guess that why blizzard doesn't have a report button for racism. OH WAIT. Go call someone a nigger on team liquid see what happens. Its still on the internet right? Your logic is terribly flawed. Racism is not acceptable anywhere, just because YOU think its acceptable doesn't mean the rest of the community does. Your low standards for interaction is not shared by everyone else, I'm sorry. You're stupid, I'm pure bred from India and I am one of the more senior mods and protech has yellow fever and raps while listening to WU-TANG REAL racIST. yo daphreAK, these are the people who are on your side. rofl jokes | ||
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GoldRogers
19 Posts
On November 03 2011 04:37 askTeivospy wrote: You're stupid, I'm pure bred from India and I am one of the more senior mods and protech has yellow fever and raps while listening to WU-TANG REAL racIST. yo daphreAK, these are the people who are on your side. rofl jokes Resorting to ad hominem when you can't provide an explanation for his blatant racism. These are the kinds of people that support protech. | ||
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askTeivospy
1525 Posts
On November 03 2011 04:42 GoldRogers wrote: Resorting to when you can't provide an explanation for his blatant racism. These are the kinds of people that support protech. QED. words aren't racism unless you're 12. fear of association with other races so you ignore / attack them is racism | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On November 03 2011 04:29 askTeivospy wrote: Um they were talking about streamers that don't get enough viewers in that SOTG, protechs name came up right away /shake head See its people like you that say these things and then people who don't know anything about protech are like "oMG manner chomp and some guy said things its the truth!!" Look at mannerchomp, the most vocal one of you. I've proven he is a hypocritical lying annoying little kid who teamkills people he doesn't like and is admitted "future" streamcheater just in this thread. Outside of this thread I have BANNED him at least 20 times on his "MANNERCHOMP###" twitch TV accounts and probably a lot more on the smurf accounts that randomly come in and say something doggish. Protech HAS proven that he is a stream cheater in my eyes (hint: I'm a scientist, I look at things objectively and without bias). You wonder why Protech doesn't give the time of day to random people he meets online ala you? Because the people at the top level are consistently BM, rude and annoying and a few of them were friends who turned into scumbags. Also if you go through the news threads, a good number of what i'd consider high profile non teamliquid people vouch for protech. Ya I'm sure people talk in private about how hes bad but considering he was getting around 300-400 viewers i'm sure theres a lot more that talk about how he's an entertaining broadcaster who has to deal with so much shit. what a joke: "objectively and without bias." if you think they were praising protech on sotg, you have some serious comprehension issues. also, why are you grouping me with mannerchomp? i dont like him either. | ||
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GoldRogers
19 Posts
On November 03 2011 04:44 askTeivospy wrote: words aren't racism unless you're 12. fear of association with other races so you ignore / attack them is racism By your logic, calling someone a "Nigger" is not racist if the person are 13. Okay, I can tell I'm debating with a heavily uneducated audience. You can continue believing Protech is a nicest person in the world that cares about all creeds and sexual orientation. | ||
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Mythito
Canada230 Posts
On November 03 2011 04:34 GoldRogers wrote: I guess that why blizzard doesn't have a report button for racism. OH WAIT. Go call someone a nigger on team liquid see what happens. Its still on the internet right? Your logic is terribly flawed. Racism is not acceptable anywhere, just because YOU think its acceptable doesn't mean the rest of the community does. Your low standards for interaction is not shared by everyone else, I'm sorry. blizzard has a report button for racism because you can say racist things on the internet, you can say "black people should still be slaves" < that's racist. has protech ever said anything like that? and as for when i said racism is acceptable, please point that out because i'm pretty sure i didnt. i said that it's not worth caring about someone saying nigger randomly on the internet. it's like if someone calls something gay on the internet should people really care about that? don't you think it's a little more important to establish gay marriage universally? don't you think it's a little more important to make laws that treat homosexuals and heterosexuals as equal? don't you think that institutional racism is a little bit more important than someone saying nigger to someone who is in all probability not even black? if you think my logic is flawed, you need to actually listen and think about my words and stop pulling assumptions and accusations out of your ass | ||
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askTeivospy
1525 Posts
On November 03 2011 04:51 GoldRogers wrote: By your logic, calling someone a "Nigger" is not racist if the person are 13. Okay, I can tell I'm debating with a heavily uneducated audience. You can continue believing Protech is a nicest person in the world that cares about all creeds and sexual orientation. did you know we're on the internet? By your logic a good chunk (undoubtedly including yourself) is racist and homophobic for the words they use over the internet also, why are you grouping me with mannerchomp? i dont like him either. yes objective and bias, before i watched the replay evidence / reasoning / live games against mannerchomp I had no idea who mannerchomp was. Afterwards I agree with protech he's 100% stream cheat and his behavior just in this thread alone reinforces that imo Good you don't like him though, +respect. Now imagine all the other annoying mannerchompesque regulars (Teivotip: they obsess so much that they made a facebook group where they routinely insult him) that we have to deal with and maybe you'd feel some empathy concerning the shit protech and the stream in general has to deal with | ||
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xiver
Serbia18 Posts
I don't mind BM and rage, but then again I'm not 15y old girl... Destiny and IdrA BM twice as much and what are they: respected and recognized players... Protech streams every game he plays, maybe he is a sore loser sometimes, but his skill level and game understanding are unquestionable... so pls instead of wasting time criticizing, go do something useful, or get laid, thay might help! EDIT: typo | ||
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Azide
Canada566 Posts
based on the link some dude sent me about sorcery hacking from tQ's post... yeah definitely looks like a hack but who is cryptoplasm? is that vitamin? cause it was either cryptoplasm hacking and cancelled robo or sorcery was telling him this shit over skype/vent -- but its definitely incriminating and i wouldnt be surprised. but tQ has played with vitamin since this so i dont see how this makes me any worse than tQ as tQ was one of protechs allies for a long time | ||
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insomdapowahouz
Canada58 Posts
That is not an argument. I've spent a few hours watching your stream and that's enough to have an opinion, and one that many people share; 2v2 games are fucking awful. You then have your one of your partners posts this gem: "When was the last time you kids did anything of note on this game besides getting on protech nerves every once in a while? Ever get featured stream on tl.net? Ever win a tourney with sponsored, pro players and a purse of over 500 dollars?" You're shit talking anyone who disagrees with you, and then saying "YEA LOL WE HAD THE LOWEST RATED NON-BW STREAM AND WON A 2v2 TOURNY AGAINST 1v1 PLAYERS AFTER SPENDING 8 HOURS A DAY PLAYING 2v2, YEAH WE'RE GOSU AS SHIT AND EVERYTHING YOU SAYS IS WRONG" There are literally like 10+ 200-300 view non featured streams that are far, far more deserving of attention than you are. Grow up. | ||
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hipsterHobbit
United States218 Posts
On November 03 2011 04:29 askTeivospy wrote: Because the people at the top level are consistently BM, rude and annoying and a few of them were friends who turned into scumbags. Your passion and desire to stay so firmly lodged to Protech's scrotum is clouding your judgement. The only person who turned in to [more of] a scumbag, as if it were even possible, was Protech. He deleted his entire friend list and ignored a good portion of the better 2v2 players just as he started streaming. Are you so naive that you think it's a coincidence nobody likes him? I guess so, for the same reason you think protech offers some deep insight to the game when in reality he just never scouts and does cheesy and poorly thought out builds. | ||
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tehredbanditt
103 Posts
On November 03 2011 06:31 insomdapowahouz wrote: 'ProTech' your argument is I just must not watch your stream enough, and I have no idea what I'm talking about. That is not an argument. I've spent a few hours watching your stream and that's enough to have an opinion, and one that many people share; 2v2 games are fucking awful. You then have your one of your partners posts this gem: "When was the last time you kids did anything of note on this game besides getting on protech nerves every once in a while? Ever get featured stream on tl.net? Ever win a tourney with sponsored, pro players and a purse of over 500 dollars?" You're shit talking anyone who disagrees with you, and then saying "YEA LOL WE HAD THE LOWEST RATED NON-BW STREAM AND WON A 2v2 TOURNY AGAINST 1v1 PLAYERS AFTER SPENDING 8 HOURS A DAY PLAYING 2v2, YEAH WE'RE GOSU AS SHIT AND EVERYTHING YOU SAYS IS WRONG" There are literally like 10+ 200-300 view non featured streams that are far, far more deserving of attention than you are. Grow up. Some of the pro teams were (are) very active in the 2v2 ladder/scene and had played together since BW. Also, the team that got 2nd place also took 2v2 very seriously and ended up getting sponsored by a well known team. I can understand if you don't like protech, but understating that tourney win is not fair. There was alot of talent there. | ||
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hipsterHobbit
United States218 Posts
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Zidane
United States1686 Posts
On November 02 2011 15:17 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: Regarding ProTechs stream: ...... Added to this we have received a lot of complaints regarding his behavior. When it comes to making exceptions we would rather err on the side of caution and not feature a stream that gets so many complaints. All I gotta say is karma's a bitch ain't it. You piss enough people off, they'll end up screwing you in the ass in the end. lawlerblades | ||
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