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ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-19 03:54:11
March 19 2011 03:19 GMT
#1
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/ProTech

If anyone is interested in high level 2v2 matches, my stream is the place to be!

just check out the live stream tab
Rantech
Profile Joined April 2010
Chile527 Posts
March 19 2011 03:56 GMT
#2
sounds good, gl with ur stream.
Tropics
Profile Joined August 2007
United Kingdom1132 Posts
March 19 2011 04:10 GMT
#3
if you wanna see some turbo bm from a baddie watch this stream
tehredbanditt
Profile Joined July 2010
103 Posts
March 19 2011 04:11 GMT
#4
I'm usualy playing with protech (2v2's) at least an hour a day. We run Z/Z and have above 80% win rate at the top of ladder.

I'm 3950 1v1 zerg masters, top 200 for months. We play our Z/Z very similiar to 1v1 style. If you're looking to improve your game, either for 2v2 or 1v1, check out protech's stream. If you can handle his *sometimes* bad music taste watching/hearing us play is a great way to improve your game. Not to mention our humourous attitudes towards the game can be entertaining.
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
iggyzizzle
Profile Joined October 2010
United States28 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-19 05:46:05
March 19 2011 05:42 GMT
#5
ProTech is a really good player. Check out his stream if you want to see almost nothing but winning.
tehredbanditt
Profile Joined July 2010
103 Posts
March 25 2011 05:17 GMT
#6
He is live right now. Playing some good 2v2's.
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
RushBoxer!
Profile Joined September 2010
United States173 Posts
March 25 2011 05:31 GMT
#7
I've been checking out this stream for the past couple weeks and this guy sick good at 2's.
spoons and forks
mynhauzen
Profile Joined February 2011
Russian Federation30 Posts
April 20 2011 21:40 GMT
#8
not sure why this stream is not listed among the top streams. Great 2v2 team.
WhiteRa - HE CARES :)
Xolo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada107 Posts
April 21 2011 01:40 GMT
#9
I like your stream!
runforyourllife
Profile Joined September 2010
United States73 Posts
April 21 2011 01:44 GMT
#10
Love the games and the music!
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
April 27 2011 00:56 GMT
#11
http://blip.tv/file/5064148 shown on day9 !
Scrubington
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada475 Posts
April 27 2011 01:02 GMT
#12
I know you didn't ask for input... but try not to watch replays on faster speed when you have people watching. =\
Day[9]
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States7366 Posts
April 28 2011 22:33 GMT
#13
Sincerest apologies for not having the best selection of your games. I just dl'd the games that were posted at sc2replayed which (inevitably) end up being teams excited that they beat you lol. Hopefully I gave you proper credit!

Keep rocking. I shall tune into your stream sometime ^___^
Whenever I encounter some little hitch, or some of my orbs get out of orbit, nothing pleases me so much as to make the crooked straight and crush down uneven places. www.day9.tv
bLuR
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada625 Posts
April 28 2011 22:44 GMT
#14
a badmannered 2v2 allstar who cheeses everygame and talks shit when he wins or loses...
BadWolf0
Profile Joined September 2010
United States300 Posts
April 28 2011 22:48 GMT
#15
doesn't change the fact that he's good at what he does... and never claims to be "manner" or some crap like that. Why do you need to come in and trash on someone who your probly better then (I'm act a fan bLuR)
All hail the Queen!!!
iggyzizzle
Profile Joined October 2010
United States28 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-28 22:51:37
April 28 2011 22:49 GMT
#16
On April 29 2011 07:44 bLuR wrote:
a badmannered 2v2 allstar who cheeses everygame and talks shit when he wins or loses...

He shit talked me and my ally pretty hard when we played him and drgnzerg twice in a row, but he's still good. :B
peekn
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1152 Posts
April 28 2011 22:50 GMT
#17
On March 19 2011 13:10 Tropics wrote:
if you wanna see some turbo bm from a baddie watch this stream


Hahaha "turbo bm" I busted out laughing in my chair when I read that, well done sir. And a high level 2v2 stream should bring color to the sea of 1v1 streamers.
Headlines
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States482 Posts
May 12 2011 01:49 GMT
#18
Congrats on getting featured, Protech. You were a good player during Brood War, and you've transitioned over to SC 2 very well. Keep being awesome!
VoirDire
Profile Joined February 2009
Sweden1923 Posts
May 12 2011 09:46 GMT
#19
Finally, was getting tired of having to click to check if it was streaming.
Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
May 16 2011 23:07 GMT
#20
Started watching. Enjoying it so far. Really getting into 2s lately.
Life is Good.
ckcornflake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States53 Posts
May 17 2011 17:13 GMT
#21
Some really epic games versus SeleCT and OptikZero on May 12th. Can you perhaps upload these replays somewhere? Would greatly appreciate it!
cubert
Profile Joined June 2010
Russian Federation94 Posts
May 27 2011 07:37 GMT
#22
Protech, why did you talk on some stream that raped us? xDDD
linduxed
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden111 Posts
May 27 2011 10:11 GMT
#23
Considering the stream has a non-HD quality, I think it would be more clear for the viewers if you used the "Stronger team colours" textures.

They can be found here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=216725
dunc
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands1105 Posts
May 27 2011 13:50 GMT
#24
Did you guys use to play WoW? Wondering because your attitude really seems on par with the Arena community.
Leeprechaun
Profile Joined January 2011
United States5 Posts
June 03 2011 18:31 GMT
#25
This stream is the one to watch for 2v2 insight, general silliness, and a good time. I always have fun watching it.
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
June 21 2011 04:33 GMT
#26
About 4 weeks ago I was like 14 or 15 in a master league in LA. However, it was a player who just did everything for intuition. No build order, no strategy. I just based on what was in the initial scout. Obviously I bore to lose consistently against some players, and with about 800 points, i wrote Hackprotech after watching his stream for some time. He asked a few of my replays to see how I played. Also, I bought an account at NA session. When we met he explained to me a lot of mistakes i made and above all, he tought me the build orders. ONLY ONE SESSION TO MAKE THE DIFFERENCE. Well, here I am writing to thank Mike, because yesterday reached first place in all leagues of LA. Its not compared to NA of course, but it is a little accomplishment. As i said, I hope my next classes greatly improve my mid and late game, and besides that, the droning. In short words, it's amazing how things can change for the better with the right concepts.

Ty bro... hope to catch u soon!

Mario Z. (Koloro)
ZweiGaming
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada348 Posts
June 24 2011 21:30 GMT
#27
I kinda like watching to the 2v2's, too bad it's taking so long to actually find a game... I must be late but how did the 2v2 tournament go, or didn't it happen yet?
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
June 24 2011 21:50 GMT
#28
its in 2 hours ptsl.tv
hihihi
lollyz
Profile Joined April 2011
218 Posts
June 28 2011 03:13 GMT
#29
Watch the stream today, very bad mannered player. Play in ladder and always say : " EZ EZ EZ WHY YOU SO EZ" spam the other player all time. I don't know why this stream is featured, really.
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
June 28 2011 03:35 GMT
#30
On June 28 2011 12:13 lollyz wrote:
Watch the stream today, very bad mannered player. Play in ladder and always say : " EZ EZ EZ WHY YOU SO EZ" spam the other player all time. I don't know why this stream is featured, really.



e z e z y u so e z?
Xardean
Profile Joined May 2010
United States104 Posts
June 28 2011 03:41 GMT
#31
So good. I lol'd at the trolling. It ruled.
ProTech I love your taste in techno and such ^^ keep on keeping on
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-28 03:47:22
June 28 2011 03:44 GMT
#32
On June 28 2011 12:13 lollyz wrote:
Watch the stream today, very bad mannered player. Play in ladder and always say : " EZ EZ EZ WHY YOU SO EZ" spam the other player all time. I don't know why this stream is featured, really.


maybe if you watched the stream for more than 5 minutes you would have known protech plays non serious 1v1/team games for the enjoyment of the stream chat (ie he asks what he should do each game and people give suggestions and he does it). He does this since his MMR is too high so 2v2 queues take ~20-30 minutes on both EU and US and people get bored of waiting so much.

Instead of watching it you came in and started ranting for no reason about it while everyone else was enjoying it so you were pushed off your soapbox via a time out. Now stop being so BM and get over it and subscribe to protech and enjoy high level 2v2's as well as a broadcaster that interacts with his fans and mixes serious as well as non serious games up for an overall enjoyable experience.
hihihi
n0ave
Profile Joined January 2011
180 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-30 06:26:25
June 30 2011 06:25 GMT
#33
Horrible player, I don't understand why he is featured on TL
90% of the time he plays random game, and he just flames/trolls/annoys his team mates.

I understand that he is a high 2v2 player, but then he should play what he was featured on, not this trolling bullshit.

People really find this funny and entertaining, a pro sc2 player fighting silver/gold players?
Also he flames as much as he can, while not microing/macroing he just talks crap.

Who ever featured this dude, should at least check what he featured.

hXc Chris
Profile Joined February 2011
United States25 Posts
June 30 2011 12:42 GMT
#34
This stream is trash. High level 2v2? more like 4v4 troll matches. I wouldnt recommend anybody wasting their time watching this garbage. I guess when there is nobody to carry you in 2v2 and you're not good enough for 1v1 you troll 4v4. Neat life.

Get this nonsense off the TL front page.
spapa13
Profile Joined June 2011
United States7 Posts
July 03 2011 03:33 GMT
#35
People need to pull the giant dildos out of their butts and calm down. If you dont like it dont watch. He happens to be a very good 2v2 player and as someone who participates in team games primarily i can appreciate that.
qkrtncu
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11 Posts
July 03 2011 03:42 GMT
#36
bad mannered player, get this out of featured stream = =
CANDY
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
July 03 2011 04:00 GMT
#37
To everyone whining about casual/troll matches and bad manners, pretty sure Destiny is a featured streamer too...ze hate is dumb.
Kooun
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada260 Posts
July 03 2011 04:00 GMT
#38
according to the games in ptsl, hes good at doing early rushes on non-shared 2v2 maps but he didnt do so hot on shared bases bc his macro isnt as good. He vetoed the shared bases in ladder. After he got eliminated , he complained the shared bases suck bc he didnt practiced on the shared base macro maps
qkrtncu
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11 Posts
July 03 2011 04:19 GMT
#39
On July 03 2011 13:00 Ruscour wrote:
To everyone whining about casual/troll matches and bad manners, pretty sure Destiny is a featured streamer too...ze hate is dumb.


I am pretty sure Destiny and protech are from two completly different caliber
CANDY
Bargorf
Profile Joined May 2011
United States23 Posts
July 03 2011 04:25 GMT
#40
Yeah, this guy is a pretty awful streamer. Terrible manner, terrible music, and terrible gameplay. He doesn't deserve to be featured.
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
July 03 2011 05:47 GMT
#41
On July 03 2011 13:19 qkrtncu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2011 13:00 Ruscour wrote:
To everyone whining about casual/troll matches and bad manners, pretty sure Destiny is a featured streamer too...ze hate is dumb.


I am pretty sure Destiny and protech are from two completly different caliber

Destiny was featured (and popular) long before he was any good.
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
July 03 2011 06:44 GMT
#42
On July 03 2011 13:19 qkrtncu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2011 13:00 Ruscour wrote:
To everyone whining about casual/troll matches and bad manners, pretty sure Destiny is a featured streamer too...ze hate is dumb.


I am pretty sure Destiny and protech are from two completly different caliber


just so TL knows, this is a confirmed hacker in your database.

Qkrt = Daesung.
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
July 03 2011 06:46 GMT
#43
On July 03 2011 13:25 Bargorf wrote:
Yeah, this guy is a pretty awful streamer. Terrible manner, terrible music, and terrible gameplay. He doesn't deserve to be featured.



pretty sure i take a vote in my stream when it's troll time
Bargorf
Profile Joined May 2011
United States23 Posts
July 03 2011 07:03 GMT
#44
On July 03 2011 15:46 ProTech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2011 13:25 Bargorf wrote:
Yeah, this guy is a pretty awful streamer. Terrible manner, terrible music, and terrible gameplay. He doesn't deserve to be featured.



pretty sure i take a vote in my stream when it's troll time


I'm pretty sure you don't, atleast the times I have been there. I'll admit that you are a good player with undeniable skill, but either way, your "troll time" is not funny and immature. When you're given the privledge of having a featured stream, you should atleast approach it in a more proffesional manner. I think there's a reason why you don't have more viewers.
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
July 03 2011 07:07 GMT
#45
On July 03 2011 16:03 Bargorf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2011 15:46 ProTech wrote:
On July 03 2011 13:25 Bargorf wrote:
Yeah, this guy is a pretty awful streamer. Terrible manner, terrible music, and terrible gameplay. He doesn't deserve to be featured.



pretty sure i take a vote in my stream when it's troll time


I'm pretty sure you don't, atleast the times I have been there. I'll admit that you are a good player with undeniable skill, but either way, your "troll time" is not funny and immature. When you're given the privledge of having a featured stream, you should atleast approach it in a more proffesional manner. I think there's a reason why you don't have more viewers.



pretty sure not everyone thinks the same way you do
Bargorf
Profile Joined May 2011
United States23 Posts
July 03 2011 07:16 GMT
#46
On July 03 2011 16:07 ProTech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2011 16:03 Bargorf wrote:
On July 03 2011 15:46 ProTech wrote:
On July 03 2011 13:25 Bargorf wrote:
Yeah, this guy is a pretty awful streamer. Terrible manner, terrible music, and terrible gameplay. He doesn't deserve to be featured.



pretty sure i take a vote in my stream when it's troll time


I'm pretty sure you don't, atleast the times I have been there. I'll admit that you are a good player with undeniable skill, but either way, your "troll time" is not funny and immature. When you're given the privledge of having a featured stream, you should atleast approach it in a more proffesional manner. I think there's a reason why you don't have more viewers.



pretty sure not everyone thinks the same way you do


I totally agree with you on that. Not everyone thinks the same way I do, but I'm sure the majority of viewers look for a streamer who doesn't act like a child. Sure, a good troll is funny every now and then, but when your stream contains the frequent "trolling" (more like flaming) that it does currently, I find it hard to believe that you're helping your viewer count.
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
July 03 2011 07:27 GMT
#47
On July 03 2011 16:16 Bargorf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2011 16:07 ProTech wrote:
On July 03 2011 16:03 Bargorf wrote:
On July 03 2011 15:46 ProTech wrote:
On July 03 2011 13:25 Bargorf wrote:
Yeah, this guy is a pretty awful streamer. Terrible manner, terrible music, and terrible gameplay. He doesn't deserve to be featured.



pretty sure i take a vote in my stream when it's troll time


I'm pretty sure you don't, atleast the times I have been there. I'll admit that you are a good player with undeniable skill, but either way, your "troll time" is not funny and immature. When you're given the privledge of having a featured stream, you should atleast approach it in a more proffesional manner. I think there's a reason why you don't have more viewers.



pretty sure not everyone thinks the same way you do


I totally agree with you on that. Not everyone thinks the same way I do, but I'm sure the majority of viewers look for a streamer who doesn't act like a child. Sure, a good troll is funny every now and then, but when your stream contains the frequent "trolling" (more like flaming) that it does currently, I find it hard to believe that you're helping your viewer count.



I think you're mad.
Bargorf
Profile Joined May 2011
United States23 Posts
July 03 2011 07:34 GMT
#48
On July 03 2011 16:27 ProTech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2011 16:16 Bargorf wrote:
On July 03 2011 16:07 ProTech wrote:
On July 03 2011 16:03 Bargorf wrote:
On July 03 2011 15:46 ProTech wrote:
On July 03 2011 13:25 Bargorf wrote:
Yeah, this guy is a pretty awful streamer. Terrible manner, terrible music, and terrible gameplay. He doesn't deserve to be featured.



pretty sure i take a vote in my stream when it's troll time


I'm pretty sure you don't, atleast the times I have been there. I'll admit that you are a good player with undeniable skill, but either way, your "troll time" is not funny and immature. When you're given the privledge of having a featured stream, you should atleast approach it in a more proffesional manner. I think there's a reason why you don't have more viewers.



pretty sure not everyone thinks the same way you do


I totally agree with you on that. Not everyone thinks the same way I do, but I'm sure the majority of viewers look for a streamer who doesn't act like a child. Sure, a good troll is funny every now and then, but when your stream contains the frequent "trolling" (more like flaming) that it does currently, I find it hard to believe that you're helping your viewer count.



I think you're mad.


Well, if that's your response, I really have nothing more to say. Variations of "ur mad" tend to be what you say whenever you receive any sort of criticism and that phrase seems to be your concept of "trolling", thus proving my point. I wish you the best of luck in the future with your stream.
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
July 03 2011 07:46 GMT
#49
On July 03 2011 16:34 Bargorf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2011 16:27 ProTech wrote:
On July 03 2011 16:16 Bargorf wrote:
On July 03 2011 16:07 ProTech wrote:
On July 03 2011 16:03 Bargorf wrote:
On July 03 2011 15:46 ProTech wrote:
On July 03 2011 13:25 Bargorf wrote:
Yeah, this guy is a pretty awful streamer. Terrible manner, terrible music, and terrible gameplay. He doesn't deserve to be featured.



pretty sure i take a vote in my stream when it's troll time


I'm pretty sure you don't, atleast the times I have been there. I'll admit that you are a good player with undeniable skill, but either way, your "troll time" is not funny and immature. When you're given the privledge of having a featured stream, you should atleast approach it in a more proffesional manner. I think there's a reason why you don't have more viewers.



pretty sure not everyone thinks the same way you do


I totally agree with you on that. Not everyone thinks the same way I do, but I'm sure the majority of viewers look for a streamer who doesn't act like a child. Sure, a good troll is funny every now and then, but when your stream contains the frequent "trolling" (more like flaming) that it does currently, I find it hard to believe that you're helping your viewer count.



I think you're mad.


Well, if that's your response, I really have nothing more to say. Variations of "ur mad" tend to be what you say whenever you receive any sort of criticism and that phrase seems to be your concept of "trolling", thus proving my point. I wish you the best of luck in the future with your stream.



Someone takes my stream too personally.
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-03 07:51:08
July 03 2011 07:48 GMT
#50
On July 03 2011 16:34 Bargorf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2011 16:27 ProTech wrote:
On July 03 2011 16:16 Bargorf wrote:
On July 03 2011 16:07 ProTech wrote:
On July 03 2011 16:03 Bargorf wrote:
On July 03 2011 15:46 ProTech wrote:
On July 03 2011 13:25 Bargorf wrote:
Yeah, this guy is a pretty awful streamer. Terrible manner, terrible music, and terrible gameplay. He doesn't deserve to be featured.



pretty sure i take a vote in my stream when it's troll time


I'm pretty sure you don't, atleast the times I have been there. I'll admit that you are a good player with undeniable skill, but either way, your "troll time" is not funny and immature. When you're given the privledge of having a featured stream, you should atleast approach it in a more proffesional manner. I think there's a reason why you don't have more viewers.



pretty sure not everyone thinks the same way you do


I totally agree with you on that. Not everyone thinks the same way I do, but I'm sure the majority of viewers look for a streamer who doesn't act like a child. Sure, a good troll is funny every now and then, but when your stream contains the frequent "trolling" (more like flaming) that it does currently, I find it hard to believe that you're helping your viewer count.



I think you're mad.


Well, if that's your response, I really have nothing more to say. Variations of "ur mad" tend to be what you say whenever you receive any sort of criticism and that phrase seems to be your concept of "trolling", thus proving my point. I wish you the best of luck in the future with your stream.


You writing "atleast the times I have been there. " kinda makes whatever point you have moot. Inbetween a block of 2s (yay 20-30 min waits) he takes votes basically all the time on what he should do, it is as simple as that and you can not argue since any regular will tell you the same thing. People like you that come in the stream for 10 minutes and get upset because he creeps the entire map or calls his opponents "eZ" after he does proxy mothership harass on probeline whether or not it works confuse me. Especially when you look at stream chat and see 100% of the people actually enjoying whatever troll he does.

Why are you so sensitive over this?
hihihi
Bargorf
Profile Joined May 2011
United States23 Posts
July 03 2011 08:05 GMT
#51
On July 03 2011 16:48 askTeivospy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2011 16:34 Bargorf wrote:
On July 03 2011 16:27 ProTech wrote:
On July 03 2011 16:16 Bargorf wrote:
On July 03 2011 16:07 ProTech wrote:
On July 03 2011 16:03 Bargorf wrote:
On July 03 2011 15:46 ProTech wrote:
On July 03 2011 13:25 Bargorf wrote:
Yeah, this guy is a pretty awful streamer. Terrible manner, terrible music, and terrible gameplay. He doesn't deserve to be featured.



pretty sure i take a vote in my stream when it's troll time


I'm pretty sure you don't, atleast the times I have been there. I'll admit that you are a good player with undeniable skill, but either way, your "troll time" is not funny and immature. When you're given the privledge of having a featured stream, you should atleast approach it in a more proffesional manner. I think there's a reason why you don't have more viewers.



pretty sure not everyone thinks the same way you do


I totally agree with you on that. Not everyone thinks the same way I do, but I'm sure the majority of viewers look for a streamer who doesn't act like a child. Sure, a good troll is funny every now and then, but when your stream contains the frequent "trolling" (more like flaming) that it does currently, I find it hard to believe that you're helping your viewer count.



I think you're mad.


Well, if that's your response, I really have nothing more to say. Variations of "ur mad" tend to be what you say whenever you receive any sort of criticism and that phrase seems to be your concept of "trolling", thus proving my point. I wish you the best of luck in the future with your stream.


You writing "atleast the times I have been there. " kinda makes whatever point you have moot. Inbetween a block of 2s (yay 20-30 min waits) he takes votes basically all the time on what he should do, it is as simple as that and you can not argue since any regular will tell you the same thing. People like you that come in the stream for 10 minutes and get upset because he creeps the entire map or calls his opponents "eZ" after he does proxy mothership harass on probeline whether or not it works confuse me. Especially when you look at stream chat and see 100% of the people actually enjoying whatever troll he does.

Why are you so sensitive over this?


I won't argue with you there. If you're a regular and have seen him take polls inbetween games, then I am in the wrong and I am sorry. Also, you're absolutely right that his viewers thoroughly enjoy his troll sessions and find them entertaining, but even if that's true, it doesn't change the fact that he is a featured streamer. I think that a featured streamer should be one that actually deserves the position given to them, rather than someone who is ill-mannered towards his opponents (which is not just during troll sessions), and who is insensitve. And as for your last comment, I don't see how posting my opinion on a particular streamer denotes me as excessively sensitive. Either way, thanks for your comment and I apologize for making an assumption about the polls.
r4pture
Profile Joined May 2011
United States397 Posts
July 03 2011 08:29 GMT
#52
Very underrated stream, been tuning in every now and then, very fun and entertaining to watch.
http://teamfortress.tv - For your TF2 streaming and discussion needs!
nosk
Profile Joined October 2010
United States21 Posts
July 03 2011 09:56 GMT
#53
On July 03 2011 17:05 Bargorf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2011 16:48 askTeivospy wrote:
On July 03 2011 16:34 Bargorf wrote:
On July 03 2011 16:27 ProTech wrote:
On July 03 2011 16:16 Bargorf wrote:
On July 03 2011 16:07 ProTech wrote:
On July 03 2011 16:03 Bargorf wrote:
On July 03 2011 15:46 ProTech wrote:
On July 03 2011 13:25 Bargorf wrote:
Yeah, this guy is a pretty awful streamer. Terrible manner, terrible music, and terrible gameplay. He doesn't deserve to be featured.



pretty sure i take a vote in my stream when it's troll time


I'm pretty sure you don't, atleast the times I have been there. I'll admit that you are a good player with undeniable skill, but either way, your "troll time" is not funny and immature. When you're given the privledge of having a featured stream, you should atleast approach it in a more proffesional manner. I think there's a reason why you don't have more viewers.



pretty sure not everyone thinks the same way you do


I totally agree with you on that. Not everyone thinks the same way I do, but I'm sure the majority of viewers look for a streamer who doesn't act like a child. Sure, a good troll is funny every now and then, but when your stream contains the frequent "trolling" (more like flaming) that it does currently, I find it hard to believe that you're helping your viewer count.



I think you're mad.


Well, if that's your response, I really have nothing more to say. Variations of "ur mad" tend to be what you say whenever you receive any sort of criticism and that phrase seems to be your concept of "trolling", thus proving my point. I wish you the best of luck in the future with your stream.


You writing "atleast the times I have been there. " kinda makes whatever point you have moot. Inbetween a block of 2s (yay 20-30 min waits) he takes votes basically all the time on what he should do, it is as simple as that and you can not argue since any regular will tell you the same thing. People like you that come in the stream for 10 minutes and get upset because he creeps the entire map or calls his opponents "eZ" after he does proxy mothership harass on probeline whether or not it works confuse me. Especially when you look at stream chat and see 100% of the people actually enjoying whatever troll he does.

Why are you so sensitive over this?


I won't argue with you there. If you're a regular and have seen him take polls inbetween games, then I am in the wrong and I am sorry. Also, you're absolutely right that his viewers thoroughly enjoy his troll sessions and find them entertaining, but even if that's true, it doesn't change the fact that he is a featured streamer. I think that a featured streamer should be one that actually deserves the position given to them, rather than someone who is ill-mannered towards his opponents (which is not just during troll sessions), and who is insensitve. And as for your last comment, I don't see how posting my opinion on a particular streamer denotes me as excessively sensitive. Either way, thanks for your comment and I apologize for making an assumption about the polls.



I think you just have the whole "Featured Streamer" thing on too high a pedestal, bro.
Shaylie
Profile Joined July 2011
Denmark8 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-03 10:58:40
July 03 2011 10:51 GMT
#54
What i dont get is why this guy has so few viewers... and it cant be bcoz of the queue times for serious 2v2 thats holding them back.. i personally find him hillarious and an awsome player ofc.

Furthermore i'd like to ask the people claiming its all bad... would you rather have a blank stream running instead of some seriously funny moments of trolling? ofc you wouldnt!
"...but why is the rum gone!"
RogerShah
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands131 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-03 14:05:52
July 03 2011 14:05 GMT
#55
ProTech for sure is a skilled team game player and has an entertaining playstyle. However, his childish behaviour is really annoying. Always chatting with CAPS on, swearing to people and attacking teammates. Maybe it's my age (25), but I don't undestand why that's appealing to some.
Brutus
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands284 Posts
July 03 2011 14:11 GMT
#56
On July 03 2011 23:05 RogerShah wrote:
ProTech for sure is a skilled team game player and has an entertaining playstyle. However, his childish behaviour is really annoying. Always chatting with CAPS on, swearing to people and attacking teammates. Maybe it's my age (25), but I don't undestand why that's appealing to some.


Same for me. Dude has skill, but I only watched a few games and I just don't like how he acts.
Shaylie
Profile Joined July 2011
Denmark8 Posts
July 03 2011 19:43 GMT
#57
He only chats with caps on when he is trolling, he doesnt use it when he's on 2v2 as far as i know, same goes for the childish behaviour which is a part of trolling if you ask me... oh and his trolling is a direct result of a channelvote where people vote for this exact behaviour.
"...but why is the rum gone!"
qkrtncu
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11 Posts
July 04 2011 04:45 GMT
#58
On July 03 2011 15:44 ProTech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2011 13:19 qkrtncu wrote:
On July 03 2011 13:00 Ruscour wrote:
To everyone whining about casual/troll matches and bad manners, pretty sure Destiny is a featured streamer too...ze hate is dumb.


I am pretty sure Destiny and protech are from two completly different caliber


just so TL knows, this is a confirmed hacker in your database.

Qkrt = Daesung.


what are you talking about, can't you take a comment?

CANDY
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
July 04 2011 05:36 GMT
#59
On July 04 2011 13:45 qkrtncu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2011 15:44 ProTech wrote:
On July 03 2011 13:19 qkrtncu wrote:
On July 03 2011 13:00 Ruscour wrote:
To everyone whining about casual/troll matches and bad manners, pretty sure Destiny is a featured streamer too...ze hate is dumb.


I am pretty sure Destiny and protech are from two completly different caliber


just so TL knows, this is a confirmed hacker in your database.

Qkrt = Daesung.


what are you talking about, can't you take a comment?




Not my fault you have to download your hacks from sorcery.
runforyourllife
Profile Joined September 2010
United States73 Posts
July 04 2011 06:12 GMT
#60
just want to back up Bargorf here.
I used to be a big time fan back in the days when you had like 10-30 viewers, and when you were balling it up hardcore in 2v2 (not that you still arent), and i feel you were featured because of the high quality 2v2 games you brought
but recently, ive been turned off by the trolling and stupid strategies you do on stream.
Its your stream, and you have the right to do whatever you want, I'm just voicing my opinion as a viewer that what I enjoy most is top lvl 2v2 games.
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
July 04 2011 07:42 GMT
#61
i do votes.
Shameless
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands349 Posts
July 04 2011 09:16 GMT
#62
On July 03 2011 23:05 RogerShah wrote:
ProTech for sure is a skilled team game player and has an entertaining playstyle. However, his childish behaviour is really annoying. Always chatting with CAPS on, swearing to people and attacking teammates. Maybe it's my age (25), but I don't undestand why that's appealing to some.

Totally agree, I even go as far to say this whole featuring him is maybe little bit to much, he obviously can't handle being in a spotlight and acting accordingly.
Liquid'HuK "That's Halo, don't worry"
Alaz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
108 Posts
July 04 2011 10:26 GMT
#63
I agree. He got streamed after the whole select/optik zero high level 2v2s.

Nowadays its all crappy bronze league trolling and not worth featured service.
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
July 04 2011 10:45 GMT
#64
On July 04 2011 19:26 Alaz wrote:
I agree. He got streamed after the whole select/optik zero high level 2v2s.

Nowadays its all crappy bronze league trolling and not worth featured service.



Honestly, you're all dumb.


I stream 2v2 / 1v1's for 13+++ hours at a time.

It's not my fault that you can't join and watch the stream when im playing serious game.

You all just need to silence.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
July 04 2011 11:24 GMT
#65
On July 04 2011 19:45 ProTech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2011 19:26 Alaz wrote:
I agree. He got streamed after the whole select/optik zero high level 2v2s.

Nowadays its all crappy bronze league trolling and not worth featured service.



Honestly, you're all dumb.


I stream 2v2 / 1v1's for 13+++ hours at a time.

It's not my fault that you can't join and watch the stream when im playing serious game.

You all just need to silence.


^that attitude pretty sure alot people wont tune in anymore after you proved what they said is true.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
July 04 2011 12:06 GMT
#66
On July 04 2011 20:24 BurningSera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2011 19:45 ProTech wrote:
On July 04 2011 19:26 Alaz wrote:
I agree. He got streamed after the whole select/optik zero high level 2v2s.

Nowadays its all crappy bronze league trolling and not worth featured service.



Honestly, you're all dumb.


I stream 2v2 / 1v1's for 13+++ hours at a time.

It's not my fault that you can't join and watch the stream when im playing serious game.

You all just need to silence.


^that attitude pretty sure alot people wont tune in anymore after you proved what they said is true.



[_] <-- carecup is empty
RizlaBLK
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada7 Posts
July 04 2011 12:36 GMT
#67
If you don't like the stream don't watch!

I normally just watch when my favorite players are streaming but hardly anyone was tonight and I laughed at ProTechs stream for hours was some of the most amusing SC2 I've ever watched!

20+ barracks flying over to the enemies base, why does no one else do this?

Alaz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
108 Posts
July 04 2011 14:05 GMT
#68
On July 04 2011 19:45 ProTech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2011 19:26 Alaz wrote:
I agree. He got streamed after the whole select/optik zero high level 2v2s.

Nowadays its all crappy bronze league trolling and not worth featured service.



Honestly, you're all dumb.


I stream 2v2 / 1v1's for 13+++ hours at a time.

It's not my fault that you can't join and watch the stream when im playing serious game.

You all just need to silence.


Insulting people on you're own stream thread, gjdm.
Shaylie
Profile Joined July 2011
Denmark8 Posts
July 04 2011 14:44 GMT
#69
I totally agree with RizlaBLK, if you dont like the stream then gtfo allready, why even bother to make a comment when you go bitch about it in the live channel anyway? i think all you whiners need to go get a sharpie in pooper.

"...but why is the rum gone!"
Kooun
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada260 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-04 14:57:06
July 04 2011 14:56 GMT
#70
On July 03 2011 15:46 ProTech wrote:
pretty sure i take a vote in my stream when it's troll time

On July 03 2011 16:07 ProTech wrote:
pretty sure not everyone thinks the same way you do

On July 03 2011 16:27 ProTech wrote:
I think you're mad.


On July 03 2011 16:46 ProTech wrote:
Someone takes my stream too personally.


On July 04 2011 19:45 ProTech wrote:

Honestly, you're all dumb.


I stream 2v2 / 1v1's for 13+++ hours at a time.

It's not my fault that you can't join and watch the stream when im playing serious game.

You all just need to silence.


On July 04 2011 21:06 ProTech wrote:
[_] <-- carecup is empty


I believe the mods should demote his stream to non-featured.
Shaylie
Profile Joined July 2011
Denmark8 Posts
July 04 2011 15:08 GMT
#71
@Daiki
I believe you should go work on your bronze standing.
"...but why is the rum gone!"
Kooun
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada260 Posts
July 04 2011 16:39 GMT
#72
@shaylie
No need . I believe you need work more than I do. This will be my last post on this thread. Cya
Wheelyman
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada53 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-04 17:18:11
July 04 2011 17:13 GMT
#73
On July 03 2011 17:05 Bargorf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2011 16:48 askTeivospy wrote:
On July 03 2011 16:34 Bargorf wrote:
On July 03 2011 16:27 ProTech wrote:
On July 03 2011 16:16 Bargorf wrote:
On July 03 2011 16:07 ProTech wrote:
On July 03 2011 16:03 Bargorf wrote:
On July 03 2011 15:46 ProTech wrote:
On July 03 2011 13:25 Bargorf wrote:
Yeah, this guy is a pretty awful streamer. Terrible manner, terrible music, and terrible gameplay. He doesn't deserve to be featured.



pretty sure i take a vote in my stream when it's troll time


I'm pretty sure you don't, atleast the times I have been there. I'll admit that you are a good player with undeniable skill, but either way, your "troll time" is not funny and immature. When you're given the privledge of having a featured stream, you should atleast approach it in a more proffesional manner. I think there's a reason why you don't have more viewers.



pretty sure not everyone thinks the same way you do


I totally agree with you on that. Not everyone thinks the same way I do, but I'm sure the majority of viewers look for a streamer who doesn't act like a child. Sure, a good troll is funny every now and then, but when your stream contains the frequent "trolling" (more like flaming) that it does currently, I find it hard to believe that you're helping your viewer count.



I think you're mad.


Well, if that's your response, I really have nothing more to say. Variations of "ur mad" tend to be what you say whenever you receive any sort of criticism and that phrase seems to be your concept of "trolling", thus proving my point. I wish you the best of luck in the future with your stream.


You writing "atleast the times I have been there. " kinda makes whatever point you have moot. Inbetween a block of 2s (yay 20-30 min waits) he takes votes basically all the time on what he should do, it is as simple as that and you can not argue since any regular will tell you the same thing. People like you that come in the stream for 10 minutes and get upset because he creeps the entire map or calls his opponents "eZ" after he does proxy mothership harass on probeline whether or not it works confuse me. Especially when you look at stream chat and see 100% of the people actually enjoying whatever troll he does.

Why are you so sensitive over this?


I won't argue with you there. If you're a regular and have seen him take polls inbetween games, then I am in the wrong and I am sorry. Also, you're absolutely right that his viewers thoroughly enjoy his troll sessions and find them entertaining, but even if that's true, it doesn't change the fact that he is a featured streamer. I think that a featured streamer should be one that actually deserves the position given to them, rather than someone who is ill-mannered towards his opponents (which is not just during troll sessions), and who is insensitve. And as for your last comment, I don't see how posting my opinion on a particular streamer denotes me as excessively sensitive. Either way, thanks for your comment and I apologize for making an assumption about the polls.


I can't agree more with all those arguments you bring about the professionnalism required for a featured stream. Recently, he even bitched about LiquidRet being a fag player LIVE on his stream. Can't recall the exact date though... I mean, hell, he's featured on TL site and trash talking about a pro player in TL's roster... So mannered...

I enjoyed watching his stream while it was less "popular" and not featured. Got banned from the chat without a mature conversation for expressing my opinion when he blamed hacking for losing when there were no evidence at all of hacking.

It's not a matter of sensitivity. It's a matter of respect towards your viewers and opponents as a featured. We made our comments, I think it's mods' turn to check our complaints and act accordingly.

EDIT : I found how to quote other users properly
Shaylie
Profile Joined July 2011
Denmark8 Posts
July 04 2011 18:44 GMT
#74
@Daiki
Lol i believe you dont even know what the fuck youre taking about but then again you are Canadian so nobody really cares.




User was temp banned for this post.
"...but why is the rum gone!"
untamed
Profile Joined July 2011
26 Posts
July 05 2011 07:45 GMT
#75
Don't like it? Simply don't watch, or vote for serious gameplay when Protech does a vote.

There are hundreds of other streams which has 'normal' boring 1v1s, what makes Protech quite popular is that its different, and I think some variety is sorely needed. That is why I think he's featured, and should remain so.
Zidane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1685 Posts
July 05 2011 08:23 GMT
#76
He's featured because he plays 2v2, kinda like why megumixbear is featured because she's a girl. Both of them are not particularly skilled at all, but I'd rather watch megumi to avoid the stupid kid BMing people on his stream when he loses.

He should stick to 2s, he can't cut it doing 1v1. Also pretty sure any semi serious 1s player who wants to switch to 2s would be better than him, I feel that TL featured him out of pity.

Lets just see how much longer he can keep it up.
untamed
Profile Joined July 2011
26 Posts
July 05 2011 08:32 GMT
#77
I cant remember the last time he BM'd in a serious game, but even if he did then Idra, Destiny and countless other streamers should be removed for BM?

Also he beat a few very serious 1s players in the PTSL a couple of weeks ago.
Shameless
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands349 Posts
July 05 2011 09:52 GMT
#78
It doesn't matter if it's a serious game or not, people coming to this site can at least expect a certain level of manners when they click a featured stream, I personally love teamgames and that's why i tried to watch his stream, but he is just to full of himself to probably take any critisism.
When he loses in one of his so called "serious" games it is ALWAYS the other guy, he never makes any mistake, ever, at least that's what his usual reaction is.
I can also confirm he was talking crap about Ret on his stream, so you get handed a nice spot on one of the biggest SC2 sites, and then start talking crap about one of their team members. Just my 2 copper for your care cup, grow up dude, i know 12 year olds that act more mature then you.
Liquid'HuK "That's Halo, don't worry"
Saicam
Profile Joined July 2011
262 Posts
July 05 2011 10:20 GMT
#79
mediocre player, nothing to learn from really besides massing lings
Optional
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada1 Post
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 22:08:23
July 05 2011 22:06 GMT
#80
On July 05 2011 17:32 untamed wrote:
I cant remember the last time he BM'd in a serious game, but even if he did then Idra, Destiny and countless other streamers should be removed for BM?

Also he beat a few very serious 1s players in the PTSL a couple of weeks ago.


That may be true but most of them played like 15 team games unlike protech who has been playing thousands of games and they're almost on par as protech. After the lost in the PTSL, protech basically cried b/c of the shared based maps which they downvoted in their 2v2 ladder stream. Also, destiny and idra generally bm'd players that are from masters/GMs. From the post I saw in this thread and the stream I watched so far, Protech BM'd players in the bronze/silver league. I believe that's pretty low.

EDIT: sorry, my english is bad. Please don't mind that. Thank you.
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
July 05 2011 23:52 GMT
#81
On July 05 2011 18:52 Shameless wrote:
It doesn't matter if it's a serious game or not, people coming to this site can at least expect a certain level of manners when they click a featured stream, I personally love teamgames and that's why i tried to watch his stream, but he is just to full of himself to probably take any critisism.
When he loses in one of his so called "serious" games it is ALWAYS the other guy, he never makes any mistake, ever, at least that's what his usual reaction is.
I can also confirm he was talking crap about Ret on his stream, so you get handed a nice spot on one of the biggest SC2 sites, and then start talking crap about one of their team members. Just my 2 copper for your care cup, grow up dude, i know 12 year olds that act more mature then you.



Are you serious? have you ever watched destiny's stream?
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
July 05 2011 23:53 GMT
#82
The thing I can't understand is that, it's pretty obvious that everything that I do in 4v4 is just for comedy. I'm not being serious and anyone who takes it seriously just needs to leave the stream.

As for the PTSL, you talk about BM well we GG'd every single game unlike some people.

So you need to get off me please.
arl0rd
Profile Joined July 2011
Netherlands1 Post
July 06 2011 00:07 GMT
#83
I love how people complain about BM, while the most popular streams generally contain BM. The bronze league trolling is just a change of pace for him, considering he plays so many hours of sc2 each day. Above all, the BM that occurs there is obviously not serious.

I think his stream provides something different from all other streams, considering he is the only one that does 2v2s, which is more entertaining for me to watch.
rawbertson
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada95 Posts
July 06 2011 00:13 GMT
#84
cant believe anyone is hating on this stream even...

1. it is on all the time. more than any other streamer on here.

2. he has a personality i can relate to.

3. he is amazing at the game, some of the best micro i have ever seen.

4. so f***n funny

5. no other 2v2 streams out there

6. you actually get a voice in the chat there are not 10,000 ppl flooding the chat at all times
Bargorf
Profile Joined May 2011
United States23 Posts
July 06 2011 01:16 GMT
#85
On July 06 2011 08:53 ProTech wrote:
The thing I can't understand is that, it's pretty obvious that everything that I do in 4v4 is just for comedy. I'm not being serious and anyone who takes it seriously just needs to leave the stream.

As for the PTSL, you talk about BM well we GG'd every single game unlike some people.

So you need to get off me please.


I don't think the question is whether or not the BM is serious. It's pretty clear that the intention of your BM is to produce a comedic effect, and that you don't take 4v4 seriously. That is totally normal, but I feel that there are better ways to be funny other than typing childish, inflammatory comments in all-caps. Sure, there are plenty of people who find your BM humorous, as indicated by the commends in this thread. That being said, I feel that the majority of people who want to watch a stream, and a featured stream at that, don't want to see you spam "hack" or call your opponent a "Jew", which I've seen you do. I'm not insinuating that you stop your epic 4v4 trolling, but that you just take it down a notch and try to be more creative instead of inflammatory. This is just my honest opinion and I always wish the best for your stream.
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
July 06 2011 02:11 GMT
#86
On July 06 2011 10:16 Bargorf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 08:53 ProTech wrote:
The thing I can't understand is that, it's pretty obvious that everything that I do in 4v4 is just for comedy. I'm not being serious and anyone who takes it seriously just needs to leave the stream.

As for the PTSL, you talk about BM well we GG'd every single game unlike some people.

So you need to get off me please.


I don't think the question is whether or not the BM is serious. It's pretty clear that the intention of your BM is to produce a comedic effect, and that you don't take 4v4 seriously. That is totally normal, but I feel that there are better ways to be funny other than typing childish, inflammatory comments in all-caps. Sure, there are plenty of people who find your BM humorous, as indicated by the commends in this thread. That being said, I feel that the majority of people who want to watch a stream, and a featured stream at that, don't want to see you spam "hack" or call your opponent a "Jew", which I've seen you do. I'm not insinuating that you stop your epic 4v4 trolling, but that you just take it down a notch and try to be more creative instead of inflammatory. This is just my honest opinion and I always wish the best for your stream.


ok but you're attacking my stream and yet you're okay with all the other streams that clearly have more bad manner than mine.
Bargorf
Profile Joined May 2011
United States23 Posts
July 06 2011 02:41 GMT
#87
On July 06 2011 11:11 ProTech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 10:16 Bargorf wrote:
On July 06 2011 08:53 ProTech wrote:
The thing I can't understand is that, it's pretty obvious that everything that I do in 4v4 is just for comedy. I'm not being serious and anyone who takes it seriously just needs to leave the stream.

As for the PTSL, you talk about BM well we GG'd every single game unlike some people.

So you need to get off me please.


I don't think the question is whether or not the BM is serious. It's pretty clear that the intention of your BM is to produce a comedic effect, and that you don't take 4v4 seriously. That is totally normal, but I feel that there are better ways to be funny other than typing childish, inflammatory comments in all-caps. Sure, there are plenty of people who find your BM humorous, as indicated by the commends in this thread. That being said, I feel that the majority of people who want to watch a stream, and a featured stream at that, don't want to see you spam "hack" or call your opponent a "Jew", which I've seen you do. I'm not insinuating that you stop your epic 4v4 trolling, but that you just take it down a notch and try to be more creative instead of inflammatory. This is just my honest opinion and I always wish the best for your stream.


ok but you're attacking my stream and yet you're okay with all the other streams that clearly have more bad manner than mine.


That's kind of a baseless comment. How are you in the position to know what I am and what I am not okay with? I absolutely don't condone BM on other featured streams, but the reason I am commenting on YOUR stream thread is because I think, out of all the featured streams, your stream contains the MOST inflammatory BM. If you honestly think that there are "all these other streams" that contain more BM than yours, you are very mistaken. To this comment you may argue, "oh, well, Destiny's stream has a lot of BM too and he's featured!" Yeah, Destiny does BM, but as I said before, there is a difference between the crude, childish, flaming comments that you "troll" your opponents with and what Destiny does. (not that I condone Destiny's behavior). Finally, my intention is not to "attack" your stream. It may seem that way, but my intentions are not malicious and I am purely speaking from a viewer standpoint. Being polite on stream will never have consequences, but by BMing, you take the risk of losing viewers. Why take that risk?
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
July 06 2011 03:00 GMT
#88
LMFAO
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 04:05:16
July 06 2011 03:59 GMT
#89
LOL? ok yes there is a difference in your head but only because you want there to be one.

On July 06 2011 11:41 Bargorf wrote:
Finally, my intention is not to "attack" your stream. It may seem that way, but my intentions are not malicious and I am purely speaking from a viewer standpoint. Being polite on stream will never have consequences, but by BMing, you take the risk of losing viewers. Why take that risk?


On July 03 2011 13:25 Bargorf wrote:
Yeah, this guy is a pretty awful streamer. Terrible manner, terrible music, and terrible gameplay. He doesn't deserve to be featured.


READ THIS and don't ignore it:

No sane person wants to sit and watch 5-15 minute games (potentially versus well known/admitted hackers) after waiting for 20-30 minutes, usually 30 minutes. If Protech did this that would mean he would be losing a lot of potential viewers, so why take that risk?

As for whether or not he should be BM (which he only is when he trolls), thats his choice. Personally I don't see anything wrong with it unless you just want to make it into an issue :| Also on the featured stream list right now I could 3 or 4 people (inc. protech) who I know are BM so stop acting like everyone but protech is nice. Seriously, its not a big deal :|

Get off this mission you have against protech and start another mission, one where you email blizzard requesting they fix their 2v2 matchmaking system. Protech has posted for them to fix it on their forums or at least lower his MMR, but they delete post instead
hihihi
Bargorf
Profile Joined May 2011
United States23 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 04:34:57
July 06 2011 04:32 GMT
#90
On July 06 2011 12:59 askTeivospy wrote:
LOL? ok yes there is a difference in your head but only because you want there to be one.

Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 11:41 Bargorf wrote:
Finally, my intention is not to "attack" your stream. It may seem that way, but my intentions are not malicious and I am purely speaking from a viewer standpoint. Being polite on stream will never have consequences, but by BMing, you take the risk of losing viewers. Why take that risk?


Show nested quote +
On July 03 2011 13:25 Bargorf wrote:
Yeah, this guy is a pretty awful streamer. Terrible manner, terrible music, and terrible gameplay. He doesn't deserve to be featured.


READ THIS and don't ignore it:

No sane person wants to sit and watch 5-15 minute games (potentially versus well known/admitted hackers) after waiting for 20-30 minutes, usually 30 minutes. If Protech did this that would mean he would be losing a lot of potential viewers, so why take that risk?

As for whether or not he should be BM (which he only is when he trolls), thats his choice. Personally I don't see anything wrong with it unless you just want to make it into an issue :| Also on the featured stream list right now I could 3 or 4 people (inc. protech) who I know are BM so stop acting like everyone but protech is nice. Seriously, its not a big deal :|

Get off this mission you have against protech and start another mission, one where you email blizzard requesting they fix their 2v2 matchmaking system. Protech has posted for them to fix it on their forums or at least lower his MMR, but they delete post instead



First of all, as I've said numerous times, I'm not advocating that he doesn't troll, just that his trolling be not as inflammatory as it is now. I understand that people may not want to wait 20-30 minutes for a 2v2, and that 4v4 is often the answer, but why is it NECESSARY to be so inflammatory? As for my previous comments: Yes, I was attacking his stream in the beginning, because I couldn't believe that someone could find the type of BM that ProTech uses in his "troll" sessions as anything less than childish. Put simply, it's not funny. However, after reading some more comments in the thread (runforyourlife's is a good example), I realized that other viewers may feel the same way I do and perhaps enjoy the pro-level 2v2 he brings far more than his BM. That's where my comments made the transition. You're also blowing what I said previously out of proportion, in that I did not say that "everyone but ProTech is nice", I said that he has the greatest amount of BM out of the featured streamers, and THAT is why I am commenting. You are right, though, that I should get off this mission. It's pretty clear from the fact that ProTech can not even formulate his own responses and leaves a follower like you to do it for him, that he is too stubborn to make an adjustment. I'll stop commenting on this thread.
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
July 06 2011 05:08 GMT
#91
On July 06 2011 13:32 Bargorf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 12:59 askTeivospy wrote:
LOL? ok yes there is a difference in your head but only because you want there to be one.

On July 06 2011 11:41 Bargorf wrote:
Finally, my intention is not to "attack" your stream. It may seem that way, but my intentions are not malicious and I am purely speaking from a viewer standpoint. Being polite on stream will never have consequences, but by BMing, you take the risk of losing viewers. Why take that risk?


On July 03 2011 13:25 Bargorf wrote:
Yeah, this guy is a pretty awful streamer. Terrible manner, terrible music, and terrible gameplay. He doesn't deserve to be featured.


READ THIS and don't ignore it:

No sane person wants to sit and watch 5-15 minute games (potentially versus well known/admitted hackers) after waiting for 20-30 minutes, usually 30 minutes. If Protech did this that would mean he would be losing a lot of potential viewers, so why take that risk?

As for whether or not he should be BM (which he only is when he trolls), thats his choice. Personally I don't see anything wrong with it unless you just want to make it into an issue :| Also on the featured stream list right now I could 3 or 4 people (inc. protech) who I know are BM so stop acting like everyone but protech is nice. Seriously, its not a big deal :|

Get off this mission you have against protech and start another mission, one where you email blizzard requesting they fix their 2v2 matchmaking system. Protech has posted for them to fix it on their forums or at least lower his MMR, but they delete post instead



First of all, as I've said numerous times, I'm not advocating that he doesn't troll, just that his trolling be not as inflammatory as it is now. I understand that people may not want to wait 20-30 minutes for a 2v2, and that 4v4 is often the answer, but why is it NECESSARY to be so inflammatory? As for my previous comments: Yes, I was attacking his stream in the beginning, because I couldn't believe that someone could find the type of BM that ProTech uses in his "troll" sessions as anything less than childish. Put simply, it's not funny. However, after reading some more comments in the thread (runforyourlife's is a good example), I realized that other viewers may feel the same way I do and perhaps enjoy the pro-level 2v2 he brings far more than his BM. That's where my comments made the transition. You're also blowing what I said previously out of proportion, in that I did not say that "everyone but ProTech is nice", I said that he has the greatest amount of BM out of the featured streamers, and THAT is why I am commenting. You are right, though, that I should get off this mission. It's pretty clear from the fact that ProTech can not even formulate his own responses and leaves a follower like you to do it for him, that he is too stubborn to make an adjustment. I'll stop commenting on this thread.



Nono, it's just that since my IQ level is so high anything that I would write in response to what you have to say would be esoteric.
Xglutlewl
Profile Joined January 2011
54 Posts
July 06 2011 05:12 GMT
#92
On July 06 2011 13:32 Bargorf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 12:59 askTeivospy wrote:
LOL? ok yes there is a difference in your head but only because you want there to be one.

On July 06 2011 11:41 Bargorf wrote:
Finally, my intention is not to "attack" your stream. It may seem that way, but my intentions are not malicious and I am purely speaking from a viewer standpoint. Being polite on stream will never have consequences, but by BMing, you take the risk of losing viewers. Why take that risk?


On July 03 2011 13:25 Bargorf wrote:
Yeah, this guy is a pretty awful streamer. Terrible manner, terrible music, and terrible gameplay. He doesn't deserve to be featured.


READ THIS and don't ignore it:

No sane person wants to sit and watch 5-15 minute games (potentially versus well known/admitted hackers) after waiting for 20-30 minutes, usually 30 minutes. If Protech did this that would mean he would be losing a lot of potential viewers, so why take that risk?

As for whether or not he should be BM (which he only is when he trolls), thats his choice. Personally I don't see anything wrong with it unless you just want to make it into an issue :| Also on the featured stream list right now I could 3 or 4 people (inc. protech) who I know are BM so stop acting like everyone but protech is nice. Seriously, its not a big deal :|

Get off this mission you have against protech and start another mission, one where you email blizzard requesting they fix their 2v2 matchmaking system. Protech has posted for them to fix it on their forums or at least lower his MMR, but they delete post instead



First of all, as I've said numerous times, I'm not advocating that he doesn't troll, just that his trolling be not as inflammatory as it is now. I understand that people may not want to wait 20-30 minutes for a 2v2, and that 4v4 is often the answer, but why is it NECESSARY to be so inflammatory? As for my previous comments: Yes, I was attacking his stream in the beginning, because I couldn't believe that someone could find the type of BM that ProTech uses in his "troll" sessions as anything less than childish. Put simply, it's not funny. However, after reading some more comments in the thread (runforyourlife's is a good example), I realized that other viewers may feel the same way I do and perhaps enjoy the pro-level 2v2 he brings far more than his BM. That's where my comments made the transition. You're also blowing what I said previously out of proportion, in that I did not say that "everyone but ProTech is nice", I said that he has the greatest amount of BM out of the featured streamers, and THAT is why I am commenting. You are right, though, that I should get off this mission. It's pretty clear from the fact that ProTech can not even formulate his own responses and leaves a follower like you to do it for him, that he is too stubborn to make an adjustment. I'll stop commenting on this thread.


If you don't like it don't watch. Most of us enjoy the BM. I'm sure there's some children's programming on TV you will find less offensive.
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
July 06 2011 05:23 GMT
#93
On July 06 2011 14:12 Xglutlewl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 13:32 Bargorf wrote:
On July 06 2011 12:59 askTeivospy wrote:
LOL? ok yes there is a difference in your head but only because you want there to be one.

On July 06 2011 11:41 Bargorf wrote:
Finally, my intention is not to "attack" your stream. It may seem that way, but my intentions are not malicious and I am purely speaking from a viewer standpoint. Being polite on stream will never have consequences, but by BMing, you take the risk of losing viewers. Why take that risk?


On July 03 2011 13:25 Bargorf wrote:
Yeah, this guy is a pretty awful streamer. Terrible manner, terrible music, and terrible gameplay. He doesn't deserve to be featured.


READ THIS and don't ignore it:

No sane person wants to sit and watch 5-15 minute games (potentially versus well known/admitted hackers) after waiting for 20-30 minutes, usually 30 minutes. If Protech did this that would mean he would be losing a lot of potential viewers, so why take that risk?

As for whether or not he should be BM (which he only is when he trolls), thats his choice. Personally I don't see anything wrong with it unless you just want to make it into an issue :| Also on the featured stream list right now I could 3 or 4 people (inc. protech) who I know are BM so stop acting like everyone but protech is nice. Seriously, its not a big deal :|

Get off this mission you have against protech and start another mission, one where you email blizzard requesting they fix their 2v2 matchmaking system. Protech has posted for them to fix it on their forums or at least lower his MMR, but they delete post instead



First of all, as I've said numerous times, I'm not advocating that he doesn't troll, just that his trolling be not as inflammatory as it is now. I understand that people may not want to wait 20-30 minutes for a 2v2, and that 4v4 is often the answer, but why is it NECESSARY to be so inflammatory? As for my previous comments: Yes, I was attacking his stream in the beginning, because I couldn't believe that someone could find the type of BM that ProTech uses in his "troll" sessions as anything less than childish. Put simply, it's not funny. However, after reading some more comments in the thread (runforyourlife's is a good example), I realized that other viewers may feel the same way I do and perhaps enjoy the pro-level 2v2 he brings far more than his BM. That's where my comments made the transition. You're also blowing what I said previously out of proportion, in that I did not say that "everyone but ProTech is nice", I said that he has the greatest amount of BM out of the featured streamers, and THAT is why I am commenting. You are right, though, that I should get off this mission. It's pretty clear from the fact that ProTech can not even formulate his own responses and leaves a follower like you to do it for him, that he is too stubborn to make an adjustment. I'll stop commenting on this thread.


If you don't like it don't watch. Most of us enjoy the BM. I'm sure there's some children's programming on TV you will find less offensive.



I actually laughed.
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 08:11:28
July 06 2011 08:08 GMT
#94

You are right, though, that I should get off this mission. It's pretty clear from the fact that ProTech can not even formulate his own responses and leaves a follower like you to do it for him, that he is too stubborn to make an adjustment. I'll stop commenting on this thread.


he didn't leave me to do anything?

Dood, he expresses his ideas in a single line while you just hide your dumb attacks behind a facade of intelligence and terrible comma/general grammar usage. Maybe if I was able to read a piece of your writing without mentally stopping every few words because of your use of commas I would, be able to think, that you're not just mad ,because you got timedout/banned, from the chat for insulting, someone and so you came here, to stealth rage.

Considering the timing of banning someone for being obnoxious / insulting and this thread being bumped with complaints of BM by the same person I would say its in the realm of possibility. Either that or you got dominated by 30 reapers.
hihihi
qkrtncu
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11 Posts
July 06 2011 08:35 GMT
#95
let me reiterate, bad stream full of bad manners, should not be featured
CANDY
Bargorf
Profile Joined May 2011
United States23 Posts
July 06 2011 19:57 GMT
#96
On July 06 2011 17:08 askTeivospy wrote:
Show nested quote +

You are right, though, that I should get off this mission. It's pretty clear from the fact that ProTech can not even formulate his own responses and leaves a follower like you to do it for him, that he is too stubborn to make an adjustment. I'll stop commenting on this thread.


he didn't leave me to do anything?

Dood, he expresses his ideas in a single line while you just hide your dumb attacks behind a facade of intelligence and terrible comma/general grammar usage. Maybe if I was able to read a piece of your writing without mentally stopping every few words because of your use of commas I would, be able to think, that you're not just mad ,because you got timedout/banned, from the chat for insulting, someone and so you came here, to stealth rage.

Considering the timing of banning someone for being obnoxious / insulting and this thread being bumped with complaints of BM by the same person I would say its in the realm of possibility. Either that or you got dominated by 30 reapers.


I said I wouldn't comment on ProTech's thread anymore, but a comment that is this idiotic deserves a response. It seems that you have drifted from trying to prove your point in a logical manner to just insulting me, so I will point out the numerous things that are wrong with your comment in order of idiocy:

1. My grammer and comma usage is fine. Judging from your own grammer, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. In addition, keep in mind that you're defending PROTECH, who has no grasp of grammer or sentence structure whatsoever.

2. ProTech absolutely left you to respond for him. Just scroll through the thread and you'll see the one-liners that he defends himself with while you try and back him up. I don't know who you are, but you sure idolize ProTech so much so that you speak for him when he can't speak for himself.

3. About bumping the thread up: LOL? I don't watch ProTech's stream, because as I've said in nearly all my comments, his BM dissuades me as a viewer. I was merely commenting because I felt that his stream wasn't worthy of being featured, not because I held some sort of grudge against him. Also, if you had even taken the time to read the other comments, you would of seen that I'm not the only one with complaints.

It's unfortunate that I've had to come back to this thread, but I feel that I'm obligated to defend myself. It's sad that someone who had previously made some good points ultimately resorts to insults when they can't think of anything more to say.
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
July 06 2011 20:45 GMT
#97
On July 06 2011 17:35 qkrtncu wrote:
let me reiterate, bad stream full of bad manners, should not be featured



Let me clarify, I banned you from my stream for hacking in starcraft 2. So there is no need for your hacking ass to be attacking my stream.
Otak
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom110 Posts
July 06 2011 21:21 GMT
#98
Genuinely think that Protech's stream is the most enjoyable stream on TL and is also live more than any other!

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Snak3n
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2 Posts
July 06 2011 21:22 GMT
#99
ok cant belive ur trashtalking Protech his Stream is Amazing 2 vs 2 and 4 vs 4
i bet his been powed or something like that from a game and came with his abuse.
About the stream
Lkpg
spapa13
Profile Joined June 2011
United States7 Posts
July 06 2011 21:24 GMT
#100
awesome stream don't know what people are whining about
cDgThunderD
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark32 Posts
July 06 2011 21:24 GMT
#101
Personally i think this is the most unique stream there is.
Fun trolling in 4v4 if there's too long waiting on 2v2 or just for some relaxing fun play.
But when it gets serious this is so awesome, 2v2 high lvl play that are above most of other master rank streamers, he also occasionally plays 1v1, ZvZ ling micro battle ? intense man ;D

and as for all the bm, its obvious, that he's not serious about it, and sometimes people in 4v4 goes in on it making it even more fun =)
Fruitybadger
Profile Joined July 2011
19 Posts
July 06 2011 21:25 GMT
#102
"Broadcaster Hackprotech: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=202566&currentpage=5#97
Usererror413: then they lose their whole base
Broadcaster Hackprotech: everyone go here
Crimsondarknessz: bringing scvs isnt noob
Broadcaster Hackprotech: and
Crimsondarknessz: what are you talking about
Broadcaster Hackprotech: say good things about my stream
» !"

Personally I think TELLING your viewers to go to a site to say kind words about you is as low as you can get. If we wanted to, we would log on and say that your 2v2 stream is in fact quite enjoyable. But instead of letting us do that on our own, you request it. Pathetic beyond words. Boycotting this stream. It's like begging for FOLLOWERS or DONATIONS. Just makes you come off as needy and winy.
fleischgeruch
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany5 Posts
July 06 2011 21:26 GMT
#103
Amazing 2vs2, funny 4vs4, mostly good music :-P
Best featured stream! period.
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 21:27:47
July 06 2011 21:26 GMT
#104
On July 07 2011 06:25 Fruitybadger wrote:
"Broadcaster Hackprotech: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=202566&currentpage=5#97
Usererror413: then they lose their whole base
Broadcaster Hackprotech: everyone go here
Crimsondarknessz: bringing scvs isnt noob
Broadcaster Hackprotech: and
Crimsondarknessz: what are you talking about
Broadcaster Hackprotech: say good things about my stream
» !"

Personally I think TELLING your viewers to go to a site to say kind words about you is as low as you can get. If we wanted to, we would log on and say that your 2v2 stream is in fact quite enjoyable. But instead of letting us do that on our own, you request it. Pathetic beyond words. Boycotting this stream. It's like begging for FOLLOWERS or DONATIONS. Just makes you come off as needy and winy.




You must say good things about my stream, this isnt a democracy this is a monarchy.
Fruitybadger
Profile Joined July 2011
19 Posts
July 06 2011 21:29 GMT
#105
"Broadcaster Hackprotech: look at this nerd
Laxbro213: search takes forever
Broadcaster Hackprotech: Fruitybadger
Mod Cdgthunderd: OHHH AND did u notice?
» Joined TL.net Thursday, 7th of July 2011
Crimsondarknessz: Trololololololol
Broadcaster Hackprotech: kid so lucky
» i dont know his account"
Shows the maturity of this guy right here. Asks people to go and kiss ass for him on this site, but then when one speaks his/her mind against him, he rages and shows immaturity. Thanks for proving my point.
cDgThunderD
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark32 Posts
July 06 2011 21:30 GMT
#106
fruitbadger, did u create a new account just to trash talk the stream ?
Joined TL.net Thursday, 7th of July 2011

kinda low yourself dont you think? more then 90% of people dont check stream thread when they are going to watch a sream, so he links it.
nothing wrong with that
fleischgeruch
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany5 Posts
July 06 2011 21:31 GMT
#107
U MAD?
UserErrOr413
Profile Joined May 2011
United States178 Posts
July 06 2011 21:32 GMT
#108
Protech's stream is the best! Epic 2v2 games. Also who doesn't love listening to Nighwish during 2v2? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Part of the reason why i watch Protech's stream is because of his BM and personality. I could get the same quality of boring SC that other streams have by watching replays with music by myself.

And @FruityBadger I would have posted something nice about his stream sooner if I knew there was a thread about it. We are just too lazy to look, I mean i'm spending time to watch someone play starcraft instead of playing it myself. If Protech would like some of his regular viewers to post something nice for everyone else to read, I will gladly do it.
nosk
Profile Joined October 2010
United States21 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 21:36:23
July 06 2011 21:32 GMT
#109
On July 07 2011 06:29 Fruitybadger wrote:
"Broadcaster Hackprotech: look at this nerd
Laxbro213: search takes forever
Broadcaster Hackprotech: Fruitybadger
Mod Cdgthunderd: OHHH AND did u notice?
» Joined TL.net Thursday, 7th of July 2011
Crimsondarknessz: Trololololololol
Broadcaster Hackprotech: kid so lucky
» i dont know his account"
Shows the maturity of this guy right here. Asks people to go and kiss ass for him on this site, but then when one speaks his/her mind against him, he rages and shows immaturity. Thanks for proving my point.



umad?

On a serious note, how is it anyone can complain about his play? He gets matched against GM in 1v1 and 2v2s take forever because his MMR is stupid high. The"BM" is only present in 4v4 and anyone who takes that bracket seriously needs to learn how to play.

Edit: I saw someone say the people he played against in PTSL only played 15 games. The only team in that league with little to no experience was Team Destiny. Everyone else was seasoned like a mother fucker.
germanunited
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany8 Posts
July 06 2011 21:34 GMT
#110
Okay, first of all, sorry for my bad english

Okay let's go

At first, I want to say thankyou to Protech for not only making me laugh but also for learning something by watching your stream. I thought my holiday will be boring as shit, but then I found your stream. You play everything and the best part is, you can everything play. Even when you gonna troll in 4v4 you are still the leader and matchwinner.
You have a diversity on your stream no one else has it. That's why it should be featured in future.
You skill is very high and I can imagine that you'll be GM next year of course.

And now, for all the hater.
I don't know why you complain about his style of trolling or whatever. He plays 16 hours a day, full time streaming. He is doing his job fucking well, and the trolling are just to relax himself and the viewers. If it would not appreciated he would have no users. I like this stream, and this style, because its something different and not that mainstream stream (what a linguistic joke )

I am gonna watch your stream in the future, day in day out, featured or non-featured

Best Regards, germanunited

P.S.: Protech, when I get my money for this wall of text?

P.S.#2: Haters gonna hate
Better To Be Hated Than Loved For What You're Not
Fruitybadger
Profile Joined July 2011
19 Posts
July 06 2011 21:34 GMT
#111
"Broadcaster Hackprotech: yes
Kani_87: noob
Broadcaster Hackprotech: fuck eu
Dison2167: D:
Broadcaster Hackprotech: who cares who fruitybadger is
Ryanjem: for haters gif just google haters gonna hate
Crimsondarknessz: Ohhh shittt
Broadcaster Hackprotech: some nerd who's probably bronze talking shit
» thats all he is"

Ya this clown shouldn't be "featured." Then again, I thinks its highly funny when someone who plays SC2 for 8+ hours a day calls anyone a "nerd." Now he's just making his viewers read these posts and not playing. I can see why this guy had alot of hate on him. Lashes out very easily. Its just a videogame. If you get so upset over it then there is something very wrong here. Not to sure if this site wants to promote that but I am glad I saw this guys true colours before i clicked to follow him (and his true colours came in the first 8 min of me watching his stream.) Pretty sad.
VoirDire
Profile Joined February 2009
Sweden1923 Posts
July 06 2011 21:35 GMT
#112
Just a suggestion, I think you'll get more stream viewers if you changed the stream name to Protech2v2 or something like that.
Meto5000
Profile Joined May 2011
United States5 Posts
July 06 2011 21:36 GMT
#113
I play team games nearly exclusively and there are absolutely no other streams out there that feature high level 2v2/3v3 games besides this one. This is fact. I truly enjoy the high level play and the strategy discussions ProTech holds in his chat.

In regards to the 4v4 trolling, I personally would much rather be watching meaningful 2v2/3v3 games, but when you witness firsthand 10-15 minute queue times I can understand why he would want to take a break. Furthermore, there is humor to be had watching the 4v4 games, it just may not appeal to you - and guess what, that's fine. Go watch something else, nobody is stopping you.

As for this being a featured stream, it features high level StarCraft with an easy to see message that warns of explicit language. Yes, from time to time it features low level 4v4 trolling, but if you did an actual comparison of time spent 2v2/3v3 vs troll 4v4, you would see that the troll 4v4 is heavily in the minority.

If this is not your bag, there are plenty of other streams of high level gameplay where the streamer says nothing, does not communicate and is more or less an SC robot. For me, I will continue to watch.

No
v0lle
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1 Post
July 06 2011 21:37 GMT
#114
I througly enjoy the stream and he is a very high level player, showing his ability to perfrom a variety of builds.
Volle power engaded
scidgy
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3 Posts
July 06 2011 21:37 GMT
#115
BAR FAR the best 2v2 stream on TL, if not the only. The fucking guy is #1 GLOBAL! He could scream about raping Mother Teresa for 8 hours straight and it should be featured. Keep up the good work Protech. Let these bitches keep whining about BM as they get destroyed.
Fruitybadger
Profile Joined July 2011
19 Posts
July 06 2011 21:38 GMT
#116
Oh and to answer the questions above, no I didn't just create a account to talk trash. I've never had an account on this page. I made an account, like the broadcasters asked when he asked his viewers to come here and kiss his ass in positive messages (like all the clones above) but I spoke what I truly think. I'm sure most of these clone posts are the kids in his channel right now begging to play in 3v3s with him or become a "mod." While he rages about me. Too awesome. Nice to know I have this much of an effect on clones and this guy when I just started watching/signed up.

Haters gotta hate? I hate when broadcasters tell others to go to some pages message board and post messages that kisses the broadcasters ass.

Ragers gotta Rage.
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
July 06 2011 21:40 GMT
#117
On July 07 2011 06:38 Fruitybadger wrote:
Oh and to answer the questions above, no I didn't just create a account to talk trash. I've never had an account on this page. I made an account, like the broadcasters asked when he asked his viewers to come here and kiss his ass in positive messages (like all the clones above) but I spoke what I truly think. I'm sure most of these clone posts are the kids in his channel right now begging to play in 3v3s with him or become a "mod." While he rages about me. Too awesome. Nice to know I have this much of an effect on clones and this guy when I just started watching/signed up.

Haters gotta hate? I hate when broadcasters tell others to go to some pages message board and post messages that kisses the broadcasters ass.

Ragers gotta Rage.




Lol, you did just make an account to rage.
nosk
Profile Joined October 2010
United States21 Posts
July 06 2011 21:40 GMT
#118
On July 07 2011 06:38 Fruitybadger wrote:


Ragers gotta Rage.



Sounds like you ragin' bro.
germanunited
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany8 Posts
July 06 2011 21:40 GMT
#119
On July 07 2011 06:38 Fruitybadger wrote:
Oh and to answer the questions above, no I didn't just create a account to talk trash. I've never had an account on this page. I made an account, like the broadcasters asked when he asked his viewers to come here and kiss his ass in positive messages (like all the clones above) but I spoke what I truly think. I'm sure most of these clone posts are the kids in his channel right now begging to play in 3v3s with him or become a "mod." While he rages about me. Too awesome. Nice to know I have this much of an effect on clones and this guy when I just started watching/signed up.

Haters gotta hate? I hate when broadcasters tell others to go to some pages message board and post messages that kisses the broadcasters ass.

Ragers gotta Rage.



I have a question..

How do u find Protechs stream, and why u keep watching it?
Better To Be Hated Than Loved For What You're Not
Pwnergizer Bunny
Profile Joined July 2010
United States110 Posts
July 06 2011 21:41 GMT
#120
On July 07 2011 06:38 Fruitybadger wrote:
Oh and to answer the questions above, no I didn't just create a account to talk trash. I've never had an account on this page. I made an account, like the broadcasters asked when he asked his viewers to come here and kiss his ass in positive messages (like all the clones above) but I spoke what I truly think. I'm sure most of these clone posts are the kids in his channel right now begging to play in 3v3s with him or become a "mod." While he rages about me. Too awesome. Nice to know I have this much of an effect on clones and this guy when I just started watching/signed up.

Haters gotta hate? I hate when broadcasters tell others to go to some pages message board and post messages that kisses the broadcasters ass.

Ragers gotta Rage.



Why so hostile cupcake? Did he grape you in a 2v2 and the only way you can attempt to get back at him is attempting to get his stream unfeatured? Aint gonna happened just because one reject can't stand his BM and is being made fun of on his stream. I do find it funny how you talk about how it should be unfeatured and boycotted and all the other BS you talk about, yet you are watching it and reading chat to see if there is anything you can use to get it unfeatured. Haters gonna hate.
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nick3kz
Profile Joined July 2011
United States4 Posts
July 06 2011 21:42 GMT
#121
On July 07 2011 06:34 Fruitybadger wrote:
"Broadcaster Hackprotech: yes
Kani_87: noob
Broadcaster Hackprotech: fuck eu
Dison2167: D:
Broadcaster Hackprotech: who cares who fruitybadger is
Ryanjem: for haters gif just google haters gonna hate
Crimsondarknessz: Ohhh shittt
Broadcaster Hackprotech: some nerd who's probably bronze talking shit
» thats all he is"

Ya this clown shouldn't be "featured." Then again, I thinks its highly funny when someone who plays SC2 for 8+ hours a day calls anyone a "nerd." Now he's just making his viewers read these posts and not playing. I can see why this guy had alot of hate on him. Lashes out very easily. Its just a videogame. If you get so upset over it then there is something very wrong here. Not to sure if this site wants to promote that but I am glad I saw this guys true colours before i clicked to follow him (and his true colours came in the first 8 min of me watching his stream.) Pretty sad.



We all nerds so? I personally think the stream is very enjoyable... Lets not forget who threw the first punch here. Pretty sure you attacked him on his own thread before he said anything to you. So seriously if the stream is not for u then just leave!

I will say Im not great at 1s but i love me some 2 v 2 and watching this stream gives me great insight into this part of the game. He does deserve to be featured and i think the high level of play you see in this stream warrants the status.
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
July 06 2011 21:43 GMT
#122
On July 07 2011 06:38 Fruitybadger wrote:
Oh and to answer the questions above, no I didn't just create a account to talk trash. I've never had an account on this page. I made an account, like the broadcasters asked when he asked his viewers to come here and kiss his ass in positive messages (like all the clones above) but I spoke what I truly think. I'm sure most of these clone posts are the kids in his channel right now begging to play in 3v3s with him or become a "mod." While he rages about me. Too awesome. Nice to know I have this much of an effect on clones and this guy when I just started watching/signed up.

Haters gotta hate? I hate when broadcasters tell others to go to some pages message board and post messages that kisses the broadcasters ass.

Ragers gotta Rage.




look what i can do

Broadcaster FruityBadger: rage
_MagnuM_
Profile Joined July 2011
Denmark136 Posts
July 06 2011 21:43 GMT
#123
lol... i made a TL account just to make post here... i watch protechs stream almost every day and this guy is a legend!!.. i mean his micro and macro are immaculate, and ive seen him play on LA server where he owned high ranked masters, even grandmasters in 1v1 consistently with some awesome games.. and you know, every good gamer likes to take a break from serious gaming and just do something chillaxed like trolling 4v4 or custom games or whatever.. besides, he even asks the people in the jtv chat if they want serious 2v2/1v1 game or 4v4 trolling... so for you people hating on this stream your being stupid cos he gives people what they want, and for you haters who dont want to see it, are too dumb to NOT click on his stream or what?.. no need to try to ruin it for other people who actually want to watch him play!!
Protechs stream is definitely my favourite stream to watch, and it so happens he streams like all the damn time, i live in europe and its still possible for me to watch most of his games if i want.. this guy is the fucking BOSS
We don’t stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.
Fruitybadger
Profile Joined July 2011
19 Posts
July 06 2011 21:50 GMT
#124
"How do u find Protechs stream, and why u keep watching it?"
Saw it on Justin.TV and I am not watching it anymore. Thank god there are other muuuuuuuuch better SC2 channels on JTV then that one. The Broadcaster who I am guessing is Protech is a real class act.

"Why so hostile cupcake?"
Who says Cupcake now of days? You sound COOL! Let's keep reading and see what you have to say.

"Did he grape you in a 2v2 and the only way you can attempt to get back at him is attempting to get his stream unfeatured?"
No, if you read above, I explain WHY I am here. Broadcaster TOLD his viewers to come here and kiss his ass to get "featured." (Lame) I know reading is asking alot from most people on message boards, so I'll let it pass. Let's keep reading and see what you say.

"Aint gonna happened just because one reject can't stand his BM and is being made fun of on his stream."
What is so good about being this "featured" anyway? Do you get anything for it? If not, then who cares. But from this thread alone, I can see clearly that I am not the only one who feels this broadcaster should not be put on display (if that's what featured means.) Its clear that the caster respects everyones opini- oh wait. Well it's clear that when one person speaks out about him he doesn't go into a rage outburs- oh wait....

"I do find it funny how you talk about how it should be unfeatured and boycotted and all the other BS you talk about"
I didn't say all others should boycot it. That just I am. Again, I did say that it should not be featured for the reasons above and probably for the countless others I could name off if I actually took the time now to watch his Justin.TV stream.

"yet you are watching it and reading chat to see if there is anything you can use to get it unfeatured."
So what's this, the third time I'm saying this? I am not watching his stream any longer. You are the shining example of what's wrong with the school system. The memorization capacity of a goldfish.
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
July 06 2011 21:53 GMT
#125
Man you are ragin, rippin up the stage n it def sounds amazin.
Pwnergizer Bunny
Profile Joined July 2010
United States110 Posts
July 06 2011 21:53 GMT
#126
On July 07 2011 06:50 Fruitybadger wrote:
"How do u find Protechs stream, and why u keep watching it?"
Saw it on Justin.TV and I am not watching it anymore. Thank god there are other muuuuuuuuch better SC2 channels on JTV then that one. The Broadcaster who I am guessing is Protech is a real class act.

"Why so hostile cupcake?"
Who says Cupcake now of days? You sound COOL! Let's keep reading and see what you have to say.

"Did he grape you in a 2v2 and the only way you can attempt to get back at him is attempting to get his stream unfeatured?"
No, if you read above, I explain WHY I am here. Broadcaster TOLD his viewers to come here and kiss his ass to get "featured." (Lame) I know reading is asking alot from most people on message boards, so I'll let it pass. Let's keep reading and see what you say.

"Aint gonna happened just because one reject can't stand his BM and is being made fun of on his stream."
What is so good about being this "featured" anyway? Do you get anything for it? If not, then who cares. But from this thread alone, I can see clearly that I am not the only one who feels this broadcaster should not be put on display (if that's what featured means.) Its clear that the caster respects everyones opini- oh wait. Well it's clear that when one person speaks out about him he doesn't go into a rage outburs- oh wait....

"I do find it funny how you talk about how it should be unfeatured and boycotted and all the other BS you talk about"
I didn't say all others should boycot it. That just I am. Again, I did say that it should not be featured for the reasons above and probably for the countless others I could name off if I actually took the time now to watch his Justin.TV stream.

"yet you are watching it and reading chat to see if there is anything you can use to get it unfeatured."
So what's this, the third time I'm saying this? I am not watching his stream any longer. You are the shining example of what's wrong with the school system. The memorization capacity of a goldfish.


y u no like cupcakes?
Patch 1.1.4 Fixed an error where players were playing games with more then two bases on a certain map
PowerDes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States520 Posts
July 06 2011 21:55 GMT
#127
I feel sorry for anyone who didn't get to see it live.

http://replayfu.com/r/zfD3zm
twitch.tv/PowerDes
UserErrOr413
Profile Joined May 2011
United States178 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 21:58:14
July 06 2011 21:57 GMT
#128
On July 07 2011 06:53 Pwnergizer Bunny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2011 06:50 Fruitybadger wrote:
"How do u find Protechs stream, and why u keep watching it?"
Saw it on Justin.TV and I am not watching it anymore. Thank god there are other muuuuuuuuch better SC2 channels on JTV then that one. The Broadcaster who I am guessing is Protech is a real class act.

"Why so hostile cupcake?"
Who says Cupcake now of days? You sound COOL! Let's keep reading and see what you have to say.

"Did he grape you in a 2v2 and the only way you can attempt to get back at him is attempting to get his stream unfeatured?"
No, if you read above, I explain WHY I am here. Broadcaster TOLD his viewers to come here and kiss his ass to get "featured." (Lame) I know reading is asking alot from most people on message boards, so I'll let it pass. Let's keep reading and see what you say.

"Aint gonna happened just because one reject can't stand his BM and is being made fun of on his stream."
What is so good about being this "featured" anyway? Do you get anything for it? If not, then who cares. But from this thread alone, I can see clearly that I am not the only one who feels this broadcaster should not be put on display (if that's what featured means.) Its clear that the caster respects everyones opini- oh wait. Well it's clear that when one person speaks out about him he doesn't go into a rage outburs- oh wait....

"I do find it funny how you talk about how it should be unfeatured and boycotted and all the other BS you talk about"
I didn't say all others should boycot it. That just I am. Again, I did say that it should not be featured for the reasons above and probably for the countless others I could name off if I actually took the time now to watch his Justin.TV stream.

"yet you are watching it and reading chat to see if there is anything you can use to get it unfeatured."
So what's this, the third time I'm saying this? I am not watching his stream any longer. You are the shining example of what's wrong with the school system. The memorization capacity of a goldfish.


y u no like cupcakes?

Cupcakes are good, but not as good as Protech's stream

Edit: Thanks for the epic replay Power!
germanunited
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany8 Posts
July 06 2011 21:59 GMT
#129

On July 07 2011 06:50 Fruitybadger wrote:
"How do u find Protechs stream, and why u keep watching it?"
Saw it on Justin.TV and I am not watching it anymore. Thank god there are other muuuuuuuuch better SC2 channels on JTV then that one. The Broadcaster who I am guessing is Protech is a real class act.




Okay, so u dont like and watch it.

Then I have more questions.

How do you know that Protech said, we shall write nice things here?
Then I wanna know, why u keep hating here. Why dont you just make a query for TL, writing your lines about your worries, and let TL do the work.
What are your aims here?
Better To Be Hated Than Loved For What You're Not
Fruitybadger
Profile Joined July 2011
19 Posts
July 06 2011 21:59 GMT
#130
"Man you are ragin, rippin up the stage n it def sounds amazin."
Nice post. Was that your attempt of trash talk? *sigh*
That's not even an original saying. Then again, I shouldn't be surprised by that being said from the broadcaster of such "quality."

"look what i can do

Broadcaster FruityBadger: rage"
Hey that's pretty cool. Can you also take screen shots of your chat stream and already of emailed the pics to the staff/admins here at this website? Cool because that's what I did. Oh and screenshots, much better then message board posts. Let them see the kind of broadcaster you are and see if you should get that "feature" you strive for. I can see the future... and the future says... not going to happen.
_MagnuM_
Profile Joined July 2011
Denmark136 Posts
July 06 2011 22:01 GMT
#131
On July 07 2011 06:50 Fruitybadger wrote:
"How do u find Protechs stream, and why u keep watching it?"
Saw it on Justin.TV and I am not watching it anymore. Thank god there are other muuuuuuuuch better SC2 channels on JTV then that one. The Broadcaster who I am guessing is Protech is a real class act.

"Why so hostile cupcake?"
Who says Cupcake now of days? You sound COOL! Let's keep reading and see what you have to say.

"Did he grape you in a 2v2 and the only way you can attempt to get back at him is attempting to get his stream unfeatured?"
No, if you read above, I explain WHY I am here. Broadcaster TOLD his viewers to come here and kiss his ass to get "featured." (Lame) I know reading is asking alot from most people on message boards, so I'll let it pass. Let's keep reading and see what you say.

"Aint gonna happened just because one reject can't stand his BM and is being made fun of on his stream."
What is so good about being this "featured" anyway? Do you get anything for it? If not, then who cares. But from this thread alone, I can see clearly that I am not the only one who feels this broadcaster should not be put on display (if that's what featured means.) Its clear that the caster respects everyones opini- oh wait. Well it's clear that when one person speaks out about him he doesn't go into a rage outburs- oh wait....

"I do find it funny how you talk about how it should be unfeatured and boycotted and all the other BS you talk about"
I didn't say all others should boycot it. That just I am. Again, I did say that it should not be featured for the reasons above and probably for the countless others I could name off if I actually took the time now to watch his Justin.TV stream.

"yet you are watching it and reading chat to see if there is anything you can use to get it unfeatured."
So what's this, the third time I'm saying this? I am not watching his stream any longer. You are the shining example of what's wrong with the school system. The memorization capacity of a goldfish.


he didnt tell me to come post here.. i just saw this thread and because i really like protech i started reading it and saw all the bashing and i didnt fully understand why... now i see its because you are just some jealous retard who cant get your own stream featured cos ur still in practice league!

oh well... i feel sorry for you little man..
We don’t stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.
Fruitybadger
Profile Joined July 2011
19 Posts
July 06 2011 22:05 GMT
#132
Sigh, please do not just SKIM my posts on here, and actually READ them. Then these redundent questions don't need to be answered over and over again. Like these redundent questions below asked by germanunited

"How do you know that Protech said, we shall write nice things here?"
Scroll up/go to an earlier post and READ. Know that's asking alot at this point, but try it.

"Then I wanna know, why u keep hating here. Why dont you just make a query for TL, writing your lines about your worries, and let TL do the work."
Have

"What are your aims here?"
Well to be honest, hoping that others will read this and see this guy for what he is. For the clones to become individuals and instead of going "can i be a mod" "can i 3v3 you" grow a pair and realize/see this broadcaster for what he is. Like my original point stated, anyone who begs for people to go to a message board and kiss his ass on it so he gets "featured" is a low life. Hope people realize that and that the people who run this site (i've not even looked at it besides searching contact us and how to make a complaint. Just know this is a SC2 site) will never use this broadcaster as a role model for a symbol of their channel. Would just reflect badly and make them look bad by association.
germanunited
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany8 Posts
July 06 2011 22:10 GMT
#133
On July 07 2011 07:05 Fruitybadger wrote:

"Then I wanna know, why u keep hating here. Why dont you just make a query for TL, writing your lines about your worries, and let TL do the work."
Have


Okay, so u have done it, but he is still featured.. Maybe TL doesn't agree with ur opinion?

BTW opinion.. What u are making here, is worthless.. Nobody, really nobody, even from TL will take attention to your words, because you do it in a way, nobody likes it.

Say an opinion and just raging is a big difference..
Better To Be Hated Than Loved For What You're Not
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
July 06 2011 22:16 GMT
#134
On July 07 2011 07:05 Fruitybadger wrote:
Sigh, please do not just SKIM my posts on here, and actually READ them. Then these redundent questions don't need to be answered over and over again. Like these redundent questions below asked by germanunited

"How do you know that Protech said, we shall write nice things here?"
Scroll up/go to an earlier post and READ. Know that's asking alot at this point, but try it.

"Then I wanna know, why u keep hating here. Why dont you just make a query for TL, writing your lines about your worries, and let TL do the work."
Have

"What are your aims here?"
Well to be honest, hoping that others will read this and see this guy for what he is. For the clones to become individuals and instead of going "can i be a mod" "can i 3v3 you" grow a pair and realize/see this broadcaster for what he is. Like my original point stated, anyone who begs for people to go to a message board and kiss his ass on it so he gets "featured" is a low life. Hope people realize that and that the people who run this site (i've not even looked at it besides searching contact us and how to make a complaint. Just know this is a SC2 site) will never use this broadcaster as a role model for a symbol of their channel. Would just reflect badly and make them look bad by association.



I don't read worthless posts tho bro ~
Fruitybadger
Profile Joined July 2011
19 Posts
July 06 2011 22:18 GMT
#135
"BTW opinion.. What u are making here, is worthless.. Nobody, really nobody, even from TL will take attention to your words, because you do it in a way, nobody likes it."
I take it the TL is the admins of the website who I emailed and sent the screen shots in too. I'm sure they'll care. You have the right to your opinion and that opinion can be/will be proven wrong.

By the way, the music he plays on his stream is without the written concent of the Copy Right holders. That is Copy Right Infringement and it's one of the reasons why that bill is being passed sooner rather then later. We are now in the middle of contacting the copy right holders that have the songs he plays and letting them know his channel on JTV and how to contact JTV if they feel the need to close it down. Like so many entertainment channels and why they get shut down on JTV, they play movies/tv/music that they do not have the written permission to play. Ruins things for the rest of us when they exploit that.
UserErrOr413
Profile Joined May 2011
United States178 Posts
July 06 2011 22:18 GMT
#136
FruitBadger I have a hard time believing that the random time you took to view the stream for 8 minutes and then decided that you hated Protech was also during the same time that protech asked for his regular viewers to say something nice about him on his TL thread.
I don't know why you have so much angst against Protech, but the fact of the matter is that (1) He is the only person playing high level 2v2s, (2) has an enjoyable personality to watch, and (3) has a fair number of regular viewers. One persons whining is not going to change anything on his stream.
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
July 06 2011 22:18 GMT
#137
actually, im willing to bet that it's bargof in disguise
UserErrOr413
Profile Joined May 2011
United States178 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 22:22:22
July 06 2011 22:21 GMT
#138
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Edit. Didn't mean to click the post button
germanunited
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany8 Posts
July 06 2011 22:22 GMT
#139
On July 07 2011 07:18 Fruitybadger wrote:


By the way, the music he plays on his stream is without the written concent of the Copy Right holders. That is Copy Right Infringement and it's one of the reasons why that bill is being passed sooner rather then later. We are now in the middle of contacting the copy right holders that have the songs he plays and letting them know his channel on JTV and how to contact JTV if they feel the need to close it down. Like so many entertainment channels and why they get shut down on JTV, they play movies/tv/music that they do not have the written permission to play. Ruins things for the rest of us when they exploit that.


That is just wrong. The music he plays is available for everyone (soundcloud, youtube)
Better To Be Hated Than Loved For What You're Not
Fruitybadger
Profile Joined July 2011
19 Posts
July 06 2011 22:22 GMT
#140
"I don't read worthless posts tho bro ~"
And now we can add lair to your resume. Friend just said you stopped playing and showed my last post on your screen for four minute before you typed your reply. Well done. And before everyone goes "oh, so your friend was watching" he was reporting the channel on JTV for copy right infringement like many of us are now doing. We're tired of channels who continue to play illegal content. Will just get that bill passed faster. Why not commentate your games if you have the brain power to do two things at once- which is obvious that the broadcaster doesn't by reading anything he says. One thing I bet he can do well is play SC2, which is why he does it 8+ hours a day.
Fruitybadger
Profile Joined July 2011
19 Posts
July 06 2011 22:23 GMT
#141
It is illegal on youtube to post music you do not have copy right too and then to rebroadcast it if it is from one of the artists page. Please I am a Law student. I know what's legal and what's illegal and who/what to contact if those legal rights are being abused.
cDgThunderD
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark32 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 22:26:56
July 06 2011 22:25 GMT
#142
SKIM and READ, skimming is faster and you'll understand just as much, but will forget most of it faster compared to reading it.

He never asked people to create an account, only to go to this thread and post good things.
see how many people that took the little time to make an account and to write something, not only 1-2 lines of text but whole walls of text.
your the only one that made an account to complain about the stream.

his playing 2v2 now, so you should be satisfied, and he plays alot more 'serious' then 'trolling'

EDIT: there is something called a DISCLAIMER that you put in your youtube videoes
germanunited
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany8 Posts
July 06 2011 22:27 GMT
#143
Very funny, you are a law student, for sure^^

Just for the opportunity you are right.. what about the other streamers? The play songs too.

No.. you are definitely wrong here and a liar.
This kind of music he plays is free, and there is no point, no law, saying, that restream that kind of music is illegal.. you just searching facts desperatly to bust him, but u fail hard.. really..
Better To Be Hated Than Loved For What You're Not
Fruitybadger
Profile Joined July 2011
19 Posts
July 06 2011 22:30 GMT
#144
"FruitBadger I have a hard time believing that the random time you took to view the stream for 8 minutes and then decided that you hated Protech was also during the same time that protech asked for his regular viewers to say something nice about him on his TL thread."

Then why did I post when all the other clones started to post their love of the broadcaster? Have a hard time all you want, but it does not take that much mental capacity to figure out that's exactly what happened. Do you have a hard time getting the square block in the circle hole when you were a child too?

"I don't know why you have so much angst against Protech, but the fact of the matter is that (1) He is the only person playing high level 2v2s"
That's reason for a broadcaster to exploit his viewers and tell them to go kiss his ass on a website? Don't think so.

"(2) has an enjoyable personality to watch,"
Yup is fun watching his stream as he sits watching a message board and rage in the chat room. What's also enjoyable was when I was watching for that time period, he dropped the N bomb in chat twice. Very mature and not racist at all.

"and (3) has a fair number of regular viewers. One persons whining is not going to change anything on his stream."
Clones, not viewers. And when it comes to violating legal rights of major publishers, one person (and its not just me) informing them that their content is being misused and abused and were to find it, can/will make all the difference.

"ProTech July 07 2011 07:18. Posts 91 PM Profile Quote #
actually, im willing to bet that it's bargof in disguise"
I am fruitybadger with the same name in SC2. I am not in "disguise" or "bargof."
germanunited
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany8 Posts
July 06 2011 22:31 GMT
#145
btw.. what you are doing here is libel.. but a law student should know that, right
Better To Be Hated Than Loved For What You're Not
UserErrOr413
Profile Joined May 2011
United States178 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 22:40:49
July 06 2011 22:31 GMT
#146
You seem to be a clone of bargof?


On July 07 2011 07:23 Fruitybadger wrote:
It is illegal on youtube to post music you do not have copy right too and then to rebroadcast it if it is from one of the artists page. Please I am a Law student. I know what's legal and what's illegal and who/what to contact if those legal rights are being abused.

I also assume you contacted them about
Startale Rainbow
ReignPheonix
sixjaxMajor
coLCatZ
Spanishiwa
Vibe

All of which are featured streams and are playing music right now or usually play music for their viewers

On July 07 2011 07:30 Fruitybadger wrote:
Then why did I post when all the other clones started to post their love of the broadcaster? Have a hard time all you want, but it does not take that much mental capacity to figure out that's exactly what happened. Do you have a hard time getting the square block in the circle hole when you were a child too?

Well if you were bargof and trying to flame Protech, then it wouldn't be that hard to create a new account when you were raging over his stream.

Also calling me slow when I was a child doesn't seem
On July 07 2011 07:30 Fruitybadger wrote:Very mature
Fruitybadger
Profile Joined July 2011
19 Posts
July 06 2011 22:38 GMT
#147
"Very funny, you are a law student, for sure^^"
Believe what you like.

"Just for the opportunity you are right.. what about the other streamers? The play songs too."
They are breaking copy right law as well. Bill S.978 is the result.

"No.. you are definitely wrong here and a liar."
Then please post some legal documentation stating that what he is doing is in fact legal. Save you some time. It is illegal to play music over a stream without the written consent from the copy right holders. On youtube, the publishers make their own channels for the artists and upload new songs, music videos, etc. That is FINE. They are legally entitled because they OWN the copy right. It's all the other channels/streams that play music/movies/tv shows without permission that are doing so illegally and can be fined/shut down for doing so.

"This kind of music he plays is free, and there is no point, no law, saying, that restream that kind of music is illegal.. you just searching facts desperatly to bust him, but u fail hard.. really.."
Rebroadcasting music/tv/movies that someone has put on the internet is still illegal. it is illegal for the person who uploaded them and it is illegal for anyone who re-broadcasts them. Even if you BUY music off iTunes, it is still ILLEGAL to play that music over a stream or to play a movie you have purchased.

Now to take a quote from How I Met Your Mother that fits in here, *ahem*, Lawyered.
Fruitybadger
Profile Joined July 2011
19 Posts
July 06 2011 22:40 GMT
#148
"I also assume you contacted them about
Startale Rainbow
ReignPheonix
sixjaxMajor
coLCatZ
Spanishiwa
Vibe

All of which are featured streams and are playing music right now or usually play music for their viewers"
Dont care about any of them or even watch any of them. They have not crossed my radar. However his broadcaster did and few of us from class have now taken it upon ourselves to take legal action. This should be fun.
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
July 06 2011 22:41 GMT
#149
fruitybadger you're on a mission that's destined to fail. give it up brO~
Fruitybadger
Profile Joined July 2011
19 Posts
July 06 2011 22:41 GMT
#150
"btw.. what you are doing here is libel.. but a law student should know that, right "
You should really re read what is and makes a person libel and what does not. Informing copy right holders/infringement departments that a individual on the internet is breaking their copy right laws is in fact not even close to being libel. But thanks for playing.
cDgThunderD
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark32 Posts
July 06 2011 22:42 GMT
#151
BTW who the f*ck are you calling clones ?? they are VIEWERS! you think he created those accounts wrote something nice while also playing and chatting on chat, while streaming what he was doing?

i know for a fact that he have 1 computer, a laptop.
so i''d like you to stop calling them clones.
UserErrOr413
Profile Joined May 2011
United States178 Posts
July 06 2011 22:43 GMT
#152
On July 07 2011 07:40 Fruitybadger wrote:
"I also assume you contacted them about
Startale Rainbow
ReignPheonix
sixjaxMajor
coLCatZ
Spanishiwa
Vibe

All of which are featured streams and are playing music right now or usually play music for their viewers"
Dont care about any of them or even watch any of them. They have not crossed my radar. However his broadcaster did and few of us from class have now taken it upon ourselves to take legal action. This should be fun.


So why are you so intent on bringing down a fairly unknown and unpopular streamer compared to those 6? Unless you have some personal grudge?
Otak
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom110 Posts
July 06 2011 22:43 GMT
#153
whats the betting that fruitybadger after today is never heard from again and that all his talk of reporting the stream is just hot air?

Y u so EZ fruitybadger? gtfo of the stream.
germanunited
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany8 Posts
July 06 2011 22:46 GMT
#154
you are a liar.. you prooved that more then one time..

TL existing so long.. Streamers playing songs so long.. why they didnt get banned?
I can answer u, because, what they are doing is legal.. you are totally wrong here.. try to make unrest..

but look what you have done... right.. nothing.. everyone is pointing at you and laugh.. laugh for your jealousness and whatever

your only protection is the pc.. you are just another kid, who is try to be something what you are not.. and fail very hard against a whole community

finish at first the school and grow up.. then we can talk further
Better To Be Hated Than Loved For What You're Not
Fruitybadger
Profile Joined July 2011
19 Posts
July 06 2011 22:47 GMT
#155
"fruitybadger you're on a mission that's destined to fail. give it up brO~"
Keep thinking that and continue to stream illegal content. Let's see how this works out for you. Oh, play some Lady Gaga when you are at it if you feel safe. Because that won't get you shut down at all. Lawyered.
nosk
Profile Joined October 2010
United States21 Posts
July 06 2011 22:51 GMT
#156
On July 07 2011 07:47 Fruitybadger wrote:
"fruitybadger you're on a mission that's destined to fail. give it up brO~"
Keep thinking that and continue to stream illegal content. Let's see how this works out for you. Oh, play some Lady Gaga when you are at it if you feel safe. Because that won't get you shut down at all. Lawyered.



Law school =/= lawyer

So... Intern'd?
Skewg
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Sweden96 Posts
July 06 2011 22:51 GMT
#157
So this Fruitybadger is smart enough to 'take it upon himself to take legal action' but not smart enough to use the fucking Quote function.

I call troll.

Anyway, ProTech's stream is enjoyable as hell to watch. Be it serious 1v1 / 2v2 or trolling the 4v4s in Bronze.

Even tho he plays Zerg >_<

"A/S/L or GTFO!"
[insert awsome quote from someone I've never heard of prior to finding this awsome quote] - Fan of pro Swedish Protoss players.
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
July 06 2011 22:52 GMT
#158
On July 07 2011 07:47 Fruitybadger wrote:
"fruitybadger you're on a mission that's destined to fail. give it up brO~"
Keep thinking that and continue to stream illegal content. Let's see how this works out for you. Oh, play some Lady Gaga when you are at it if you feel safe. Because that won't get you shut down at all. Lawyered.



Same goes for ever single gaming stream out there, so until then: A/S/L
nuMi22
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom165 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 22:56:08
July 06 2011 22:55 GMT
#159
Why have you made it your personal mission to fuck up this guy's stream? You must literally have nothing better to do. Let TL decide what happens to it, I don't know how you can possibly be this offended to go to these lengths. While he may be a bit of a tosser, it's a good 2v2 stream and really the only decent one there is. It's not up to you to decide what happens to it, so quit with this ridiculous personal agenda.
Jaedong. That is all.
Fruitybadger
Profile Joined July 2011
19 Posts
July 06 2011 22:55 GMT
#160
"TL existing so long.. Streamers playing songs so long.. why they didnt get banned?"
Clone, please actually know what you are talking about before you post. He streams on JUSTIN TV. On JTV, it is ILLEGAL to stream copy right material and channels get CLOSED all the time. Gaming channels, movie channels, etc for violating copy right material. Now this channel has been flagged. TL shows the stream feed. It is not the site he broadcasts from.

"I can answer u" (Wrongly), "because, what they are doing is legal.." (wrong) you are totally wrong here.." (You are incorrect) try to make unrest..(Already achieved)

"but look what you have done... right.. nothing.. everyone is pointing at you and laugh.. laugh for your jealousness and whatever" Give it 2 business days at minimum before the closure happens. Takes JTV a few days but it'll happen. We just called/emailed the copy right holders. Most of them are closed for the day. Give the Infringement departments a day to review and another to contact JTV.

"your only protection is the pc.. you are just another kid, who is try to be something what you are not.. and fail very hard against a whole community"
Why do I need protection? Obviously I am not a "kid", clone. You should really go find a case that can prove you have a point. You do not and can not.

"finish at first the school and grow up.."
That'll be next month. Already passed the Bar exam.

"then we can talk further"
No i'm sure you will continue to post and "talk" to me on here. Clones just don't know when to stop, even when they say they're going too. Calling your bluff Clone. Let's see who's the liar.
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
July 06 2011 22:57 GMT
#161
holy hopping snot you are more of a troll than i am
cDgThunderD
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark32 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 22:59:31
July 06 2011 22:58 GMT
#162
He got trolled in 4v4!

and why are you ignoring my posts only, fruity ?!
you just called them clones again, quit that shit
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 23:02:49
July 06 2011 23:00 GMT
#163
the Internets&12yearolds firm is after protech

flush & burn the evidence: they've got their education from watching law&order seasons I through IV


D:!


edit- last 6 pages or so of this thread is a joke btw
hihihi
Fruitybadger
Profile Joined July 2011
19 Posts
July 06 2011 23:04 GMT
#164
"Same goes for ever single gaming stream out there, so until then: A/S/L"
You are right ProTech, because NO channels on JTV (in the entertainment/gaming) get closed to due to copy right infring- oh wait, they do ALL the time. No one must have reported you yet, well until now anyway.

"Why have you made it your personal mission to fuck up this guy's stream? You must literally have nothing better to do. Let TL decide what happens to it, I don't know how you can possibly be this offended to go to these lengths. "
TL allows streamers a place to mirror their streams from. JTV is the site he is broadcasting from. It' not just my personal mission. Our 304 class is now making it its mission to inform those who are being exploited and allow justice to be done and for the hammer to fall on this broadcaster. This is not a TL issue. This is a copy right holders/JTV issue. Don't mess with a soon to be Law School Grad who just finished writing his finals, and feels the need to get a by proxy first legal win by shutting this immature ignoramus shut down, and at most, fined. How many people are in that streaming hearing the music illegally? How much money is being lost by the publishers/artists? Everyone who streams anything illegal is just helping that bill get passed and all these gaming streams shut down. Should thank this broadcaster when you have nothing to watch anymore.
Fruitybadger
Profile Joined July 2011
19 Posts
July 06 2011 23:06 GMT
#165
We're done for the day. We'll pick this up at tomorrow. If the stream if even around but we think it'll be a couple of days until the Infringement departments contact JTV. or JTV could just shut it down right away. They read the emails that have @law in the email titles.
Fruitybadger
Profile Joined July 2011
19 Posts
July 06 2011 23:07 GMT
#166
Oh one last thing, we also emailed the companies that sponsor you as well Broadcaster. Should know that you exploit other companies/content and that they should look closer at this stream while it lasts.

User was banned for this post.
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 23:17:45
July 06 2011 23:11 GMT
#167
"Oh one last thing, we also emailed the companies that sponsor you as well Broadcaster. Should know that you exploit other companies/content and that they should look closer at this stream while it lasts."

I cant wait until this is settled on People's Court
hihihi
xhollowpointx
Profile Joined July 2011
3 Posts
July 06 2011 23:12 GMT
#168
s.978 is not a law yet, it is a bill. Also, they probably will not waste their time going after a kid for streaming his audio while playing a video game. My bet is a cease and desist at worst. Also fair use could be applied in regard to educational purposes. I know for a fact I watch his stream to try and become better at zerg. (Full disclosure: i suck)
nuMi22
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom165 Posts
July 06 2011 23:14 GMT
#169
This is not a TL issue. This is a copy right holders/JTV issue. Don't mess with a soon to be Law School Grad who just finished writing his finals, and feels the need to get a by proxy first legal win by shutting this immature ignoramus shut down, and at most, fined. How many people are in that streaming hearing the music illegally? How much money is being lost by the publishers/artists? Everyone who streams anything illegal is just helping that bill get passed and all these gaming streams shut down. Should thank this broadcaster when you have nothing to watch anymore.


While he might be a tosser, you are one horifically arrogant kid and far worse than he is. I actually pity you. The guy has like 300 views and you're breaking your balls to fuck him over for no reason. It's so unbelievably sad and you've got no reason to talk down to everyone. Honestly you're pathetic.
Jaedong. That is all.
xhollowpointx
Profile Joined July 2011
3 Posts
July 06 2011 23:15 GMT
#170
@numi +1
cDgThunderD
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark32 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 23:26:23
July 06 2011 23:16 GMT
#171
Thanks TL mods, for taking him out =)
fleischgeruch
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany5 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 23:17:04
July 06 2011 23:16 GMT
#172
Muuuaaaahahaha! What a waste of time! But funny!

--> Wie mancher sich hier zum Affen macht! Nur scheisse, dass es keine Sau interessiert, was der Kleingeist hier abzieht!
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10831 Posts
July 06 2011 23:21 GMT
#173
That guy sucked but so does a lot of the posting in this thread. Stream threads aren't a free-for-all.
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
nuMi22
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom165 Posts
July 06 2011 23:22 GMT
#174
Oh one last thing, we also emailed the companies that sponsor you as well Broadcaster. Should know that you exploit other companies/content and that they should look closer at this stream while it lasts.

User was banned for this post.


Thank you TL mods.
Jaedong. That is all.
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
July 06 2011 23:25 GMT
#175
On July 07 2011 08:07 Fruitybadger wrote:
Oh one last thing, we also emailed the companies that sponsor you as well Broadcaster. Should know that you exploit other companies/content and that they should look closer at this stream while it lasts.

User was banned for this post.



but, im not sponsored so you just blew your cover, troll !
Skewg
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Sweden96 Posts
July 06 2011 23:28 GMT
#176
On July 07 2011 08:21 BroOd wrote:
That guy sucked but so does a lot of the posting in this thread. Stream threads aren't a free-for-all.


A thread that gets hijacked by a troll usually falters in quality =S
[insert awsome quote from someone I've never heard of prior to finding this awsome quote] - Fan of pro Swedish Protoss players.
Dagonet982
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 23:41:51
July 06 2011 23:29 GMT
#177
best stream on TL!!!!
need more 4s tho!!!
I see it as a mans duty to be upright, not kept upright
UserErrOr413
Profile Joined May 2011
United States178 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-07 00:05:06
July 07 2011 00:04 GMT
#178
On July 07 2011 06:55 PowerDes wrote:
I feel sorry for anyone who didn't get to see it live.

http://replayfu.com/r/zfD3zm


Quoted for people who missed it on stream and from the previous posting in this thread.
Epic 2v2 game between Powertech vs. Dayvie & friend, with some great dropping, nydus-ing, and defense.

Check out protech's stream for more great games.
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
July 07 2011 00:29 GMT
#179
it was good game~
Cormaximus
Profile Joined June 2010
United States13 Posts
July 07 2011 00:31 GMT
#180
I think maybe he was just posting to up his trollll acount.

Best 2v2 stream. Only downside is ProTech is so good it takes a while to place him in a match
smashedpotato
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia9 Posts
July 07 2011 08:42 GMT
#181
Cormaximus, I totally agree with you, protech def has some talent and very hard to be bored of his stream.
wuhwuhwuhwuh
rawbertson
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada95 Posts
July 07 2011 21:33 GMT
#182
Haha its sad people are hating... this stream is only going to get more and more popular. These other clowns, no one is ever going to remember them, they will fade into obscurity forever. I believe there is some jealousy going on here.
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
July 09 2011 05:26 GMT
#183
protech is laughable. if he loses he blames it on stream cheating.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Baum
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1010 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-12 10:41:14
July 12 2011 08:47 GMT
#184
Evertime I tune in I have to watch Protech flaming his opponents like mad. I don't mind BM too much and often times it's at least understandable if it comes from frustration but this guy is just doing it every single game even in 3vs3 and 4vs4 and in such a laughable way. I would like to watch high level team games but certainly not on a stream like this one. There are enough generic idiots out there having thousands of word documents filled with fake 4chan "humor" to copy paste from. Can't really understand why this guy is featured here.
I want to be with those who share secret things or else alone.
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
July 13 2011 01:15 GMT
#185
On July 12 2011 17:47 Baum wrote:
Evertime I tune in I have to watch Protech flaming his opponents like mad. I don't mind BM too much and often times it's at least understandable if it comes from frustration but this guy is just doing it every single game even in 3vs3 and 4vs4 and in such a laughable way. I would like to watch high level team games but certainly not on a stream like this one. There are enough generic idiots out there having thousands of word documents filled with fake 4chan "humor" to copy paste from. Can't really understand why this guy is featured here.



Then don't watch the stream, that simple.
KvltMan
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sweden1609 Posts
July 13 2011 01:31 GMT
#186
Mike is my favorite streamer after IdrA. His 4v4s are so extremely entertaining.
Get crunk
Baum
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1010 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-13 19:55:08
July 13 2011 19:52 GMT
#187
On July 13 2011 10:15 ProTech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 17:47 Baum wrote:
Evertime I tune in I have to watch Protech flaming his opponents like mad. I don't mind BM too much and often times it's at least understandable if it comes from frustration but this guy is just doing it every single game even in 3vs3 and 4vs4 and in such a laughable way. I would like to watch high level team games but certainly not on a stream like this one. There are enough generic idiots out there having thousands of word documents filled with fake 4chan "humor" to copy paste from. Can't really understand why this guy is featured here.



Then don't watch the stream, that simple.


Stupid reply. I stopped watching your stream after finding out what kind of guy you are. Still I can leave my criticism here since this is what these threads are for, that simple.
I want to be with those who share secret things or else alone.
Lobotomist
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1541 Posts
July 13 2011 20:06 GMT
#188
Any chance you wanna post a little BO for the fast roaches you do against ZT? I think it's like 10/11, 14 ish gas... anyway, I'd be stoked if you could reveal this trade secret :D
Teching to hive too quickly isn't just a risk: it's an ultrarisk
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
July 14 2011 00:07 GMT
#189
On July 14 2011 04:52 Baum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2011 10:15 ProTech wrote:
On July 12 2011 17:47 Baum wrote:
Evertime I tune in I have to watch Protech flaming his opponents like mad. I don't mind BM too much and often times it's at least understandable if it comes from frustration but this guy is just doing it every single game even in 3vs3 and 4vs4 and in such a laughable way. I would like to watch high level team games but certainly not on a stream like this one. There are enough generic idiots out there having thousands of word documents filled with fake 4chan "humor" to copy paste from. Can't really understand why this guy is featured here.



Then don't watch the stream, that simple.


Stupid reply. I stopped watching your stream after finding out what kind of guy you are. Still I can leave my criticism here since this is what these threads are for, that simple.



Oh no, you stopped watching my stream because you found out what kind of guy I am. Well, i'm glad you stopped watching my stream, since I found out what kind of guy you are.
YunhOLee
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Canada2470 Posts
July 14 2011 00:10 GMT
#190
On July 14 2011 05:06 Lobotomist wrote:
Any chance you wanna post a little BO for the fast roaches you do against ZT? I think it's like 10/11, 14 ish gas... anyway, I'd be stoked if you could reveal this trade secret :D

he's using the 7roach rush bo 11over pool shown/explained here: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/7_Roach_Rush_/_Expand_/_Lair
Live it, love it, play it, kill it. JulyZerg and IPXZerg greatest TL.net fan
AwfulPlayer
Profile Joined August 2010
249 Posts
July 14 2011 00:56 GMT
#191
great stream, i love teamgames a pity you mainly play zerg tho

how do you manage to stream 24/7 ? whenever i check TL you're streaming.
JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
July 14 2011 01:14 GMT
#192
i wish there was something that can be done about this long wait time for finding games :[ i suppose once the servers merge it might be a little easier
Shaylie
Profile Joined July 2011
Denmark8 Posts
July 22 2011 21:36 GMT
#193
So wtf happend to the idiot and his therapy group who was suppossed to sue everbody here and close shit down lol!
"...but why is the rum gone!"
JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
July 22 2011 21:45 GMT
#194
On July 23 2011 06:36 Shaylie wrote:
So wtf happend to the idiot and his therapy group who was suppossed to sue everbody here and close shit down lol!

what are you talking about?
Shaylie
Profile Joined July 2011
Denmark8 Posts
July 22 2011 22:15 GMT
#195
I'm talking about this guy -> Fruitybadger, havent you been following the thread?
"...but why is the rum gone!"
MrCeeJ
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom57 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 13:58:00
July 23 2011 13:56 GMT
#196
I used to really enjoy this stream, watching some high lvl 2v2 and interesting tactics, builds, etc but the last two times I have gone on he has just been trolling his team mates, and being a douchebag.

Just now I stopped watching for the second, and last, time. He built two depots and 24 scvs on mins and then afk'd, currently he has nearly 3k minerals banked and is just trolling the people watching 'HAHA YOU DONT KNOW WHAT I AM DOING'.

If my hamster was playing SC2 I wouldn't have a clue what it was doing either, but that doesn't mean I would go support its advertising revenue while it goes and spoils a game for 7 other people.

It is a shame because when he was playing well it was a good multiplayer stream to watch but now it is just as entertaining as going to the kindergarten to watch kids troll each other.
Argue for your limitations and they shall be yours!
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
July 23 2011 14:34 GMT
#197
On July 23 2011 22:56 MrCeeJ wrote:
I used to really enjoy this stream, watching some high lvl 2v2 and interesting tactics, builds, etc but the last two times I have gone on he has just been trolling his team mates, and being a douchebag.

Just now I stopped watching for the second, and last, time. He built two depots and 24 scvs on mins and then afk'd, currently he has nearly 3k minerals banked and is just trolling the people watching 'HAHA YOU DONT KNOW WHAT I AM DOING'.

If my hamster was playing SC2 I wouldn't have a clue what it was doing either, but that doesn't mean I would go support its advertising revenue while it goes and spoils a game for 7 other people.

It is a shame because when he was playing well it was a good multiplayer stream to watch but now it is just as entertaining as going to the kindergarten to watch kids troll each other.



Then don't watch the stream, when i'm trolling no one is forcing you to sit there and watch it.
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 14:38:36
July 23 2011 14:37 GMT
#198
On July 14 2011 10:14 JiYan wrote:
i wish there was something that can be done about this long wait time for finding games :[ i suppose once the servers merge it might be a little easier



This is exactly why I do bronze 4v4, so my viewers dont have to sit there and wait 20 mins for a que just staring at the screen.

On another note normally I take a vote, so if you see me trolling low level bronze 4v4s it's because it was voted on.

I'm really sick and tired of people attacking my stream when no one is sitting there forcing you to watch the nonsense. " To each his own. " If you don't like it, just leave trust me, you wont hurt my feelings.


EDIT: A lot of people think that my stream is just simply trolling all the time, but if you actually sit there and watch the stream the majority of the time it's just sitting in a 2v2 que waiting for a game to pop. I spend most of the time playing 2v2 or 1v1.

snailz
Profile Joined April 2011
Croatia900 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 14:42:53
July 23 2011 14:42 GMT
#199
On July 23 2011 22:56 MrCeeJ wrote:
I used to really enjoy this stream, watching some high lvl 2v2 and interesting tactics, builds, etc but the last two times I have gone on he has just been trolling his team mates, and being a douchebag.

Just now I stopped watching for the second, and last, time. He built two depots and 24 scvs on mins and then afk'd, currently he has nearly 3k minerals banked and is just trolling the people watching 'HAHA YOU DONT KNOW WHAT I AM DOING'.

If my hamster was playing SC2 I wouldn't have a clue what it was doing either, but that doesn't mean I would go support its advertising revenue while it goes and spoils a game for 7 other people.

It is a shame because when he was playing well it was a good multiplayer stream to watch but now it is just as entertaining as going to the kindergarten to watch kids troll each other.


you left out the part when he builds 25 barracks, lifts them all up at the same time and sends them scattered from each other to enemy half of the map, and when they all go "???" he says

WHO CALLED IN THE FLEET

fucking priceless entertainment right there ))
"I am saying that there are 300 current pros and semi-pros that have the potential to come in and dominate SC2 at any moment, with a latency of a few months from the day they switch." - intrigue
Shaylie
Profile Joined July 2011
Denmark8 Posts
July 23 2011 14:58 GMT
#200

"EDIT: A lot of people think that my stream is just simply trolling all the time, but if you actually sit there and watch the stream the majority of the time it's just sitting in a 2v2 que waiting for a game to pop. I spend most of the time playing 2v2 or 1v1."

This B true....


@MrCeej: i think its funny how you were able to tune in to the stream at the exact time where ProT is trolling - two times in a row and then proclaim his stream is nothing but shit these days, i mean thats some serious skillz there!.
Atleast try to make it a little less obvious that you actually are on the stream and just waiting for moment when he actually goes in troll mode for those 30-60 mins out of a total of 7-10 hrs playtime, idiot.
"...but why is the rum gone!"
MrCeeJ
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom57 Posts
July 23 2011 15:32 GMT
#201
I guess I was just unlucky then. As I say I used to watch it a lot, there really aren't any other good multiplayer streams out there, but the last two times I have tried to watch (a bout an hour each time) I was just sick of the trolling.

I guess I just react badly to it and fail to see the humour in it. I do sympathise with the queue times and if it is what your viewers want then who am I to criticise I just thought I would explain why I won't be watching the stream any more, even if I do watch your more serious games on youtube or w/e.
Argue for your limitations and they shall be yours!
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
July 23 2011 22:44 GMT
#202
Well you just have to remember that, wherever you go, there you will be.
geck9
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1 Post
July 23 2011 23:42 GMT
#203
best. stream. ever.
good job mr. ballman
klitschKO
Profile Joined March 2011
18 Posts
July 26 2011 11:52 GMT
#204
i understand people saying "why are you watching this idiot playing stupid build orders while flaming?!?" especially his 4v4s seems to be pretty insane in first view.

but in fact, those "stupid" build orders made me play better. i just realized how bad >= platin players are. and i dont have to fear trying creative styles such as early ghosts, multiple fast expands etc.

protechs micro is just insane. and while sc2 more and more becomes a macro heavy game, i really enjoy this diversion.

best stream ever! bitch rush 4tw

greetz
vollpreller
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
July 30 2011 09:45 GMT
#205
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/j34r1/i_always_wanted_to_be_a_miner/ you know you've hit it big when you make it to reddit.
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
August 05 2011 23:58 GMT
#206
anyone know why i was disabled?
Grouch
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada152 Posts
August 06 2011 00:04 GMT
#207
Biased TL admins for the lose :/
Sound #1
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
August 06 2011 00:16 GMT
#208
no i probably just did something i didn't know i wasn't supposed to do
Blasphm
Profile Joined August 2010
France5 Posts
August 06 2011 00:50 GMT
#209
That damn suck....
YunhOLee
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Canada2470 Posts
August 06 2011 17:25 GMT
#210
you mean you didnt know that someone would eventually get tired of you constantly trolling and talking trash to people and purposely making your teams lose while smurfing?
Live it, love it, play it, kill it. JulyZerg and IPXZerg greatest TL.net fan
Deleted User 166296
Profile Joined April 2011
35 Posts
August 06 2011 20:43 GMT
#211
On August 07 2011 02:25 YunhOLee wrote:
you mean you didnt know that someone would eventually get tired of you constantly trolling and talking trash to people and purposely making your teams lose while smurfing?


umad?

On average, 250 viewers tune in and most of them spam chat for him to do 4v4s. The viewers enjoy it tons, so I'm guessing you're one of the bronze league kids that take 4s seriously? Stop raging.

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askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-06 23:48:04
August 06 2011 23:45 GMT
#212
On August 07 2011 02:25 YunhOLee wrote:
you mean you didnt know that someone would eventually get tired of you constantly trolling and talking trash to people and purposely making your teams lose while smurfing?


that wasn't the reason :\. anyways its been enabled again so its all good

‎(/ ' ' )‿‿( ' ' \)
‎( ' ' \(。◕ ‿‿◕。)/ ' ' ) hihihi
‎(/ ' ' )‿‿( ' ' \) c u
hihihi
Elovia
Profile Joined March 2011
13 Posts
August 07 2011 02:49 GMT
#213
Never change BroTech. Never change
qkrtncu
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-07 03:05:23
August 07 2011 03:01 GMT
#214
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CANDY
smashedpotato
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia9 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-09 01:55:24
August 09 2011 01:55 GMT
#215
yo protech, u banned me just before because you thought i said u ruined your reputation. i meant vilepsys not yours. you misunderstood me and banned me straight away.
wuhwuhwuhwuh
jahre
Profile Joined November 2008
United States95 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-10 07:41:52
August 09 2011 09:21 GMT
#216
Get this guy off teamliquid. Didn't even know he streamed until recently. Horribly bad mannered when he loses (by either accusing the other team of cheating, being "bad", blaming his ally, or losing due to a build order loss), and is just someone quite unpleasant to be around.

I know this because my aka is Extrovert and my 2v2 is pretty high. I get matched with this guy a lot, and although he can be funny and entertaining at times, you should do yourself a favor and not watch this garbage.

Oh, and I'm sure he's probably a nice guy in real life, but too bad this is the internet where people feel the need to say and do stupid things.

</endrant>
"I am as bad as the worst, but, thank God, I am as good as the best." -Walt Whitman
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
August 09 2011 10:29 GMT
#217
Protech is so good he never loses except to maphackers or because of a bad ally.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
TastelessBuild
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1 Post
August 11 2011 01:38 GMT
#218
Protech's Music is too OP for him to stop streaming.
"Look at that guy, must be using the #TastelessBuild"
rawbertson
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada95 Posts
August 12 2011 00:30 GMT
#219
i pretty much only go on team liquid for this stream
rawbertson
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada95 Posts
August 12 2011 00:31 GMT
#220
On August 09 2011 18:21 jahre wrote:
Get this guy off teamliquid. Didn't even know he streamed until recently. Horribly bad mannered when he loses (by either accusing the other team of cheating, being "bad", blaming his ally, or losing due to a build order loss), and is just someone quite unpleasant to be around.

I know this because my aka is Extrovert and my 2v2 is pretty high. I get matched with this guy a lot, and although he can be funny and entertaining at times, you should do yourself a favor and not watch this garbage.

Oh, and I'm sure he's probably a nice guy in real life, but too bad this is the internet where people feel the need to say and do stupid things.

</endrant>



you admitted to hacking this morning i was watching the stream you said your ally was telling you exactly what protech was doing.
Rassy
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-12 01:14:02
August 12 2011 01:09 GMT
#221
Hey
Love to watch your stream, its the only team stream there is unfortunatly
Like the trolling and funny builds like mass raven and orbital also
playing 4x4 and purposely loosing from start by killing own workers or prevent partners from making wall by half building tons of structures i just find kinda annoying to see though lol but guess cant have it all
Annyway thx for stream, i realy like it 90% of the time and watch it alot
bigbadgreen
Profile Joined October 2010
United States142 Posts
August 13 2011 13:51 GMT
#222
Loved the stream yesterday. It was cool to see you teaming up with fans to play. I was waiting for a game and had to leave before I was chosen because of a family obligation. Hopefully you will do more of this in the future. I'll keep tuning in. Thanks for streaming.
jahre
Profile Joined November 2008
United States95 Posts
August 15 2011 02:21 GMT
#223
On August 12 2011 09:31 rawbertson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2011 18:21 jahre wrote:
Get this guy off teamliquid. Didn't even know he streamed until recently. Horribly bad mannered when he loses (by either accusing the other team of cheating, being "bad", blaming his ally, or losing due to a build order loss), and is just someone quite unpleasant to be around.

I know this because my aka is Extrovert and my 2v2 is pretty high. I get matched with this guy a lot, and although he can be funny and entertaining at times, you should do yourself a favor and not watch this garbage.

Oh, and I'm sure he's probably a nice guy in real life, but too bad this is the internet where people feel the need to say and do stupid things.

</endrant>



you admitted to hacking this morning i was watching the stream you said your ally was telling you exactly what protech was doing.


Actually I didn't admit to hacking, friend. I said my ally was watching his stream and informing me of what he was doing (which, in and of itself, showcases the fact that I did not / wasn't cheating). All my statement showed was a clear correlation of MY ALLY cheating. So, how about you learn to read, and come back when you don't make false claims.

Thanks.
"I am as bad as the worst, but, thank God, I am as good as the best." -Walt Whitman
rawbertson
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada95 Posts
August 16 2011 11:18 GMT
#224
the fact you associate with said cheaters (was an arranged team) just goes to show you how ridiculous you sound. you are only kidding yourself, just because no one can actually "Prove" you were cheating doesnt mean anyone buys your BS.
jahre
Profile Joined November 2008
United States95 Posts
August 16 2011 11:27 GMT
#225
On August 16 2011 20:18 rawbertson wrote:
the fact you associate with said cheaters (was an arranged team) just goes to show you how ridiculous you sound. you are only kidding yourself, just because no one can actually "Prove" you were cheating doesnt mean anyone buys your BS.


Actually, it was a random team you moron. You make yourself sound stupid. God I hope non of you idiots come to Raleigh. I'd be tempted to punch you in the face.

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"I am as bad as the worst, but, thank God, I am as good as the best." -Walt Whitman
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
August 20 2011 05:51 GMT
#226
On August 16 2011 20:27 jahre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 20:18 rawbertson wrote:
the fact you associate with said cheaters (was an arranged team) just goes to show you how ridiculous you sound. you are only kidding yourself, just because no one can actually "Prove" you were cheating doesnt mean anyone buys your BS.


Actually, it was a random team you moron. You make yourself sound stupid. God I hope non of you idiots come to Raleigh. I'd be tempted to punch you in the face.



I'm pretty sure this warrants some kind of action from a mod.

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HuTSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia188 Posts
August 30 2011 11:22 GMT
#227
Just got banned from your chat for being a 'hacker' alias. Considering my team-mate and I are #1 on SEA for 2v2, just wondering where the random accusations came from T.T
worked13
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia93 Posts
August 30 2011 11:29 GMT
#228
We match him, therefore we hack. Great logic!
Pershj5
Profile Joined August 2011
3 Posts
August 31 2011 20:48 GMT
#229
World #1 2v2er for a reason, very enjoyable, high quality stream, I don't understand why he doesn't get more viewers. Highly skilled player that you can all learn something from, and great selection of Trance/Techno music on his stream.

To all whom complain about 3s or 4s, try streaming yourself, it gets tedious after doing the same thing for 12 (or more) hours at a time. To all whom complain about his BM, take a look at Idra. Should be enough of an example, not to mention he never said he was 'mannered' in first place. He's so nice too, he plays 2s with his viewers at times too!

On August 30 2011 20:22 HuTSC2 wrote:
Just got banned from your chat for being a 'hacker' alias. Considering my team-mate and I are #1 on SEA for 2v2, just wondering where the random accusations came from T.T


I've learned to believe Protech when he says he's able to catch the difference between hackers, stream cheaters, and good game sense, so I understand the paranoia. I'm sorry you were banned, my friend was too (for same reason), but he PM'd a mod and got unbanned, hopefully this'll work.
LtCalley
Profile Joined March 2011
United States244 Posts
September 02 2011 18:18 GMT
#230
5-0'd you the other night, you called me a hacker. not impressed br0
"No matter how good you are at something, there's always about a million people better than you" - Homer Simpson
LtCalley
Profile Joined March 2011
United States244 Posts
September 02 2011 18:21 GMT
#231
On September 01 2011 05:48 Pershj5 wrote:
World #1 2v2er for a reason, very enjoyable, high quality stream, I don't understand why he doesn't get more viewers. Highly skilled player that you can all learn something from, and great selection of Trance/Techno music on his stream.

To all whom complain about 3s or 4s, try streaming yourself, it gets tedious after doing the same thing for 12 (or more) hours at a time. To all whom complain about his BM, take a look at Idra. Should be enough of an example, not to mention he never said he was 'mannered' in first place. He's so nice too, he plays 2s with his viewers at times too!

Show nested quote +
On August 30 2011 20:22 HuTSC2 wrote:
Just got banned from your chat for being a 'hacker' alias. Considering my team-mate and I are #1 on SEA for 2v2, just wondering where the random accusations came from T.T


I've learned to believe Protech when he says he's able to catch the difference between hackers, stream cheaters, and good game sense, so I understand the paranoia. I'm sorry you were banned, my friend was too (for same reason), but he PM'd a mod and got unbanned, hopefully this'll work.


and you would be wrong...he accused me of hacking/stream cheating when i just straight up owned him 5 times in one night.
"No matter how good you are at something, there's always about a million people better than you" - Homer Simpson
Blasphm
Profile Joined August 2010
France5 Posts
September 02 2011 23:40 GMT
#232
Freaking awsme games @PTSL², awesome job on the 2 pylons/overlords.
Pershj5
Profile Joined August 2011
3 Posts
September 03 2011 05:03 GMT
#233
And this would be why he was invited to PTSL while the carebear kids cry on ladder. Lmao, cause ladder is srs bsns bros, we all know people try their goddamn hardest on ladder and give it their 100%. Cause ladders where the moneys at! LOL.

Rooting for you guys Powertech, 'ganbate', amazing opening games!

If anyones new to this stream I definitely recommend it, highest quality 2v2s, very satisfied in finding this stream..
Wheelyman
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada53 Posts
September 08 2011 01:49 GMT
#234
Why is the braodcaster banned from TL for flaming some users calling them retarded and low IQ but his stream is still featured? He's still trash talking about TL live on his stream at the moment... He's getting pretty sad actually
hipsterHobbit
Profile Joined September 2011
United States218 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 22:13:16
September 08 2011 22:12 GMT
#235
Protech you've probably accused 150 people of stream cheating at this point on your stream.

I was just thinking, that's about your average viewer count.

-levels
Azide
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada566 Posts
September 08 2011 22:37 GMT
#236
^ lol somethings u and i can agree on levels
Azide and SuperNinja - Best Double Protoss 2v2 Team!
NrT.RuSH
Profile Joined September 2007
Germany214 Posts
September 08 2011 22:38 GMT
#237
My lings are party animals!
US Air Force Stationed in Ramstein, Germany. Char: NrTRuSH Code: 768
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
September 08 2011 23:18 GMT
#238
On September 09 2011 07:12 hipsterHobbit wrote:
Protech you've probably accused 150 people of stream cheating at this point on your stream.

I was just thinking, that's about your average viewer count.

-levels


Yup, and i'm 100% correct so far on my accusations.
xN.07)MaK
Profile Joined January 2006
Spain1159 Posts
September 08 2011 23:25 GMT
#239
On September 09 2011 08:18 ProTech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 07:12 hipsterHobbit wrote:
Protech you've probably accused 150 people of stream cheating at this point on your stream.

I was just thinking, that's about your average viewer count.

-levels


Yup, and i'm 100% correct so far on my accusations.


Not in my universe.
El micro es el último recurso que les queda a los que no producen lo suficiente
nick3kz
Profile Joined July 2011
United States4 Posts
September 08 2011 23:31 GMT
#240

Every time ive heard him accuse someone of cheating ( handful of times) he's produced a replay as evidence that at least rises some suspicion to the matter.

Haters gonna hate always and thats just a fact.
hipsterHobbit
Profile Joined September 2011
United States218 Posts
September 08 2011 23:50 GMT
#241
On September 09 2011 08:18 ProTech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 07:12 hipsterHobbit wrote:
Protech you've probably accused 150 people of stream cheating at this point on your stream.

I was just thinking, that's about your average viewer count.

-levels


Yup, and i'm 100% correct so far on my accusations.

What am I, someone you've accused of cheating when I haven't and I would never cheat, supposed to say to that?

It's a shame you've been given a platform to slander mine and plenty of other people's names with no repercussion.

That you called for team wizards to not be "featured" only makes me hope TL admin or whoever is in charge looks closer in to who they actually have featured in you.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
September 09 2011 04:27 GMT
#242
On September 09 2011 08:18 ProTech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 07:12 hipsterHobbit wrote:
Protech you've probably accused 150 people of stream cheating at this point on your stream.

I was just thinking, that's about your average viewer count.

-levels


Yup, and i'm 100% correct so far on my accusations.

i think the point he was trying to make is that the only people who watch your stream are there to cheat (i.e., you have no real fans). at least, thats what i found amusing about his post.
NrT.RuSH
Profile Joined September 2007
Germany214 Posts
September 09 2011 23:55 GMT
#243
Nice, Ban me from your chat. Cool Story Bro
US Air Force Stationed in Ramstein, Germany. Char: NrTRuSH Code: 768
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-11 03:01:51
September 11 2011 03:01 GMT
#244
On September 10 2011 08:55 NrT.RuSH wrote:
Nice, Ban me from your chat. Cool Story Bro


idk why you were banned since i've been busy with moving but

you showed up in chat less than 2 times in the last 6 months = you're not missing out on your end

and the last time you kept banning some guy that I kept having to unban (including after I left) = chat not missing out on their end
hihihi
Nostrap
Profile Joined May 2010
United States21 Posts
September 11 2011 11:53 GMT
#245
Playing 2v2s. Happened to get cued up against protech. Went ling. My ally decided to go hellion. Beat protech. Went into stream afterwards. Got banned for "being a piece of shit that goes hellion ling." As if I had planned that all along or something. I can't really control random teams son.

Anyhow, I would like to be unbanned as I do enjoy the stream.
pintoboss
Profile Joined June 2011
Portugal3 Posts
September 11 2011 22:31 GMT
#246
i can u unban me ?

PintBoss thaths the user

think u done it cuz i said the lyote kill of wizards could be coincidence lol

my bad

i would like to continue to enjoy the stream

tks bro
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
September 12 2011 11:10 GMT
#247
On September 11 2011 20:53 Nostrap wrote:
Playing 2v2s. Happened to get cued up against protech. Went ling. My ally decided to go hellion. Beat protech. Went into stream afterwards. Got banned for "being a piece of shit that goes hellion ling." As if I had planned that all along or something. I can't really control random teams son.

Anyhow, I would like to be unbanned as I do enjoy the stream.



Unbanned, rage ban.

Unbanned the other guy too, rage ban.
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
September 12 2011 11:26 GMT
#248
On September 10 2011 08:55 NrT.RuSH wrote:
Nice, Ban me from your chat. Cool Story Bro



I banned you from my stream because your AKA is moO. You play with sorcery, knowing he is a hacker and I don't think you deserve to be in my stream.

Second of all you're backing up TeamWizards.
Xifi
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway2 Posts
September 12 2011 21:30 GMT
#249
Great stream, loved every minute I watched. Keep up the good work!
nastyyy
Profile Joined December 2009
United States262 Posts
September 16 2011 09:05 GMT
#250
I stayed up 'til like 5 or 6am watching his stream last night. How could I turn it off when he's watching poo throwing videos?
one time
VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
September 22 2011 08:03 GMT
#251
Streaming high level 2v2s right now :D
VashTS; 330; Random -- Ranked #9 Pokemon Video Game Player in the World in 2009
lulzury
Profile Joined February 2010
United States236 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-26 02:17:12
September 26 2011 02:13 GMT
#252
I don't know why this guy is featured over someone like EGAxlav, Nadagast, or VPGamers.

He shouts obscenities at his allies, complain about 2v2 random and how retarded his allies were. Yet he keeps queuing up the 2v2 random.

He says that he only ever only loses because his allies are "bronze" players. He also never communicated with his opponents.

Don't watch; this guy is very racist.

Oh and if you have ever beaten him, you ARE A KNOWN HACKER.
SEn hwaiting!!!
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
September 26 2011 09:10 GMT
#253
On September 26 2011 11:13 lulzury wrote:
I don't know why this guy is featured over someone like EGAxlav, Nadagast, or VPGamers.

He shouts obscenities at his allies, complain about 2v2 random and how retarded his allies were. Yet he keeps queuing up the 2v2 random.

He says that he only ever only loses because his allies are "bronze" players. He also never communicated with his opponents.

Don't watch; this guy is very racist.

Oh and if you have ever beaten him, you ARE A KNOWN HACKER.


On September 25 2011 21:44 lulzury wrote:
Another example of people making drama out of nothing. People get get mad when they lose and might say some things that they don't mean. Get over it. EVERYONE does it.


?????
hihihi
lulzury
Profile Joined February 2010
United States236 Posts
September 26 2011 11:05 GMT
#254
On September 26 2011 18:10 askTeivospy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2011 11:13 lulzury wrote:
I don't know why this guy is featured over someone like EGAxlav, Nadagast, or VPGamers.

He shouts obscenities at his allies, complain about 2v2 random and how retarded his allies were. Yet he keeps queuing up the 2v2 random.

He says that he only ever only loses because his allies are "bronze" players. He also never communicated with his opponents.

Don't watch; this guy is very racist.

Oh and if you have ever beaten him, you ARE A KNOWN HACKER.


Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 21:44 lulzury wrote:
Another example of people making drama out of nothing. People get get mad when they lose and might say some things that they don't mean. Get over it. EVERYONE does it.


?????



I don't know why this guy is featured over someone like EGAxlav, Nadagast, or VPGamers.


Being good at 2v2s has NEVER and will NEVER be anything more than something seen as a "team game" in Starcraft 2. GL in GSL Protech. OH wait, they don't cater to 2v2s.
SEn hwaiting!!!
VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
September 26 2011 11:41 GMT
#255
On September 26 2011 11:13 lulzury wrote:
I don't know why this guy is featured over someone like EGAxlav, Nadagast, or VPGamers.

He shouts obscenities at his allies, complain about 2v2 random and how retarded his allies were. Yet he keeps queuing up the 2v2 random.

He says that he only ever only loses because his allies are "bronze" players. He also never communicated with his opponents.

Don't watch; this guy is very racist.

Oh and if you have ever beaten him, you ARE A KNOWN HACKER.

Most of this can be said about our beloved IdrA. =)
VashTS; 330; Random -- Ranked #9 Pokemon Video Game Player in the World in 2009
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
September 26 2011 13:19 GMT
#256
On September 26 2011 20:05 lulzury wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2011 18:10 askTeivospy wrote:
On September 26 2011 11:13 lulzury wrote:
I don't know why this guy is featured over someone like EGAxlav, Nadagast, or VPGamers.

He shouts obscenities at his allies, complain about 2v2 random and how retarded his allies were. Yet he keeps queuing up the 2v2 random.

He says that he only ever only loses because his allies are "bronze" players. He also never communicated with his opponents.

Don't watch; this guy is very racist.

Oh and if you have ever beaten him, you ARE A KNOWN HACKER.


On September 25 2011 21:44 lulzury wrote:
Another example of people making drama out of nothing. People get get mad when they lose and might say some things that they don't mean. Get over it. EVERYONE does it.


?????


Show nested quote +

I don't know why this guy is featured over someone like EGAxlav, Nadagast, or VPGamers.


Being good at 2v2s has NEVER and will NEVER be anything more than something seen as a "team game" in Starcraft 2. GL in GSL Protech. OH wait, they don't cater to 2v2s.



this is deeZer trolling
lulzury
Profile Joined February 2010
United States236 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-26 15:32:36
September 26 2011 15:32 GMT
#257

this is deeZer trolling

While you are here, why don't you answer everyone's question: Why are you featured over someone like EGAxlav, Nadagast, VPGamers, or Magulina,
SEn hwaiting!!!
Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
September 30 2011 04:59 GMT
#258
ItmeJP is right, your stream is something to experience once in a lifetime.

I enjoy the electronica and variety.
Support your esport!
oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2904 Posts
October 10 2011 08:16 GMT
#259
ProTech, can you please link your YouTube playlist that you play when you are playing random 2's? (The one you are currently playing right now.)
Also if you can unban the account Jinju_

No idea how I got banned, tyty~
말크 : ^_^~ NeO)GabuAt, vGODieN
Zealo
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia40 Posts
October 13 2011 04:06 GMT
#260
my favourite stream by far, watching protech has made 2v2 my favourite format. huge respect for this guy.

is there anywhere to see the vods of PTSL2 games with powertech voice chat?
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
October 15 2011 22:37 GMT
#261
On October 13 2011 13:06 Zealo wrote:
my favourite stream by far, watching protech has made 2v2 my favourite format. huge respect for this guy.

is there anywhere to see the vods of PTSL2 games with powertech voice chat?



protechsc2.com
OenzoXIII
Profile Joined August 2011
United States16 Posts
October 16 2011 00:12 GMT
#262
I am a big fan of 2v2 so its great to see a streamer at ProTech's level. I even enjoy the occasional 1.6 when he is waiting for a match.
CHOMPMannER
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada175 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-21 04:19:43
October 21 2011 03:48 GMT
#263
Hmm I don't think this guys stream should be featured on Team Liquid.

He is blatantly racist and calls people the " N " word while streaming on this site. And calls people " f*cking f*ags" when he loses.

I don't condone any sort of racism, that is just offensive and wrong.
http://www.ipstarcraft.com/ --iPCHOMP
hipsterHobbit
Profile Joined September 2011
United States218 Posts
October 21 2011 03:59 GMT
#264
Not only that, he accuses many people who beat him of stream cheating, and while he may certainly fall prey to cheaters occasionally, to call someone who doesn't a cheater to >200 viewers is unfair as they have no way to defend themselves against the accusations.
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
October 21 2011 04:28 GMT
#265
On October 21 2011 12:59 hipsterHobbit wrote:
Not only that, he accuses many people who beat him of stream cheating, and while he may certainly fall prey to cheaters occasionally, to call someone who doesn't a cheater to >200 viewers is unfair as they have no way to defend themselves against the accusations.


This is the first time that I'm looking through this thread but it's clear that you have a personal vendetta against Protech. If you have such a problem, then why do you even bother to come in here?

TLers, if you really want to post something negative but it doesn't really need to be said THEN JUST DON'T POST.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
CHOMPMannER
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada175 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-21 04:38:09
October 21 2011 04:36 GMT
#266
On October 21 2011 13:28 kingjames01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2011 12:59 hipsterHobbit wrote:
Not only that, he accuses many people who beat him of stream cheating, and while he may certainly fall prey to cheaters occasionally, to call someone who doesn't a cheater to >200 viewers is unfair as they have no way to defend themselves against the accusations.


This is the first time that I'm looking through this thread but it's clear that you have a personal vendetta against Protech. If you have such a problem, then why do you even bother to come in here?

TLers, if you really want to post something negative but it doesn't really need to be said THEN JUST DON'T POST.



It is called community feed back.
This is a web site dedicated to a Starcraft 2 team and a Community Forum

An online forum in which people express their opinions... Thank-You
http://www.ipstarcraft.com/ --iPCHOMP
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
October 21 2011 05:19 GMT
#267
On October 21 2011 13:36 CHOMPMannER wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2011 13:28 kingjames01 wrote:
On October 21 2011 12:59 hipsterHobbit wrote:
Not only that, he accuses many people who beat him of stream cheating, and while he may certainly fall prey to cheaters occasionally, to call someone who doesn't a cheater to >200 viewers is unfair as they have no way to defend themselves against the accusations.


This is the first time that I'm looking through this thread but it's clear that you have a personal vendetta against Protech. If you have such a problem, then why do you even bother to come in here?

TLers, if you really want to post something negative but it doesn't really need to be said THEN JUST DON'T POST.



It is called community feed back.
This is a web site dedicated to a Starcraft 2 team and a Community Forum

An online forum in which people express their opinions... Thank-You


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On October 21 2011 13:36 CHOMPMannER wrote:
a Community Forum


Thank-You

Your comment is a good one because you allow room for agreement or dissent. The person I quoted above does not.

If hipsterHobbit has an issue with ProTech, then he should converse in PM. His behaviour is the internet equivalent of sitting outside of a business and telling everyone not to go in because he had a bad experience.

Since that is the case, then he should express his thoughts in privacy and as I said JUST DON'T POST.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
hipsterHobbit
Profile Joined September 2011
United States218 Posts
October 21 2011 05:21 GMT
#268
On October 21 2011 13:28 kingjames01 wrote:
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On October 21 2011 12:59 hipsterHobbit wrote:
Not only that, he accuses many people who beat him of stream cheating, and while he may certainly fall prey to cheaters occasionally, to call someone who doesn't a cheater to >200 viewers is unfair as they have no way to defend themselves against the accusations.


This is the first time that I'm looking through this thread but it's clear that you have a personal vendetta against Protech. If you have such a problem, then why do you even bother to come in here?

TLers, if you really want to post something negative but it doesn't really need to be said THEN JUST DON'T POST.

How is what I said negative?

I'm sick of being called a cheater to a large audience with no way to defend myself when I'm NOT, never have been, and never will be.

As for a "vendetta"... Would you just take getting slandered as no big deal? I like playing starcraft, and I care about my reputation to an extent. So what?
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
October 21 2011 05:28 GMT
#269
On October 21 2011 14:21 hipsterHobbit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2011 13:28 kingjames01 wrote:
On October 21 2011 12:59 hipsterHobbit wrote:
Not only that, he accuses many people who beat him of stream cheating, and while he may certainly fall prey to cheaters occasionally, to call someone who doesn't a cheater to >200 viewers is unfair as they have no way to defend themselves against the accusations.


This is the first time that I'm looking through this thread but it's clear that you have a personal vendetta against Protech. If you have such a problem, then why do you even bother to come in here?

TLers, if you really want to post something negative but it doesn't really need to be said THEN JUST DON'T POST.

How is what I said negative?

I'm sick of being called a cheater to a large audience with no way to defend myself when I'm NOT, never have been, and never will be.

As for a "vendetta"... Would you just take getting slandered as no big deal? I like playing starcraft, and I care about my reputation to an extent. So what?


That's not the point. You said your piece. Fine, I believe you. You're not a hacker. (Ironically, I would never even have known about you hacking against ProTech if you hadn't posted in here.)

However, you already defended yourself. By continuing to post your grievances, you are now acting petty.

Suppose that every time someone talks to you, a stranger pops out of the shadows and denounces you. That would reflect poorly on you, yeah, but it would make that stranger look awfully stupid...
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
hipsterHobbit
Profile Joined September 2011
United States218 Posts
October 21 2011 05:43 GMT
#270
yes, how ironic

I'm not going to argue with you. You just changed the entire crux of your argument, and personally, I don't care about your opinion either way.

I just hope someone of importance on the TL staff takes note of this and if they feel it is unfair as I (and probably many others who don't speak up) do and they take appropriate action.
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-21 06:09:16
October 21 2011 06:08 GMT
#271
On October 21 2011 14:43 hipsterHobbit wrote:
yes, how ironic

I'm not going to argue with you. You just changed the entire crux of your argument, and personally, I don't care about your opinion either way.

I just hope someone of importance on the TL staff takes note of this and if they feel it is unfair as I (and probably many others who don't speak up) do and they take appropriate action.


Since you continue to frequent this thread, clearly, at personal angst and pain, you must have a vested interest for doing so. I understand that you feel that you received unfair treatment from this streamer. I also understand that you feel that you are entitled to some remediation. However, if you felt that you received unfair service at a restaurant, you would speak to the staff. You would not sit outside and tell everyone your story. You would not call the police to apply sanctions.

What do you think TeamLiquid should do for you here? Why don't you just contact ProTech and have him recant his statement? He probably just said it in the heat of the moment. Passionate people playing a passionate game are going to make passionate remarks.

To summarize my points which have NOT changed:
  • I noticed that you have a problem with ProTech.
  • I noticed that you have repeated an earlier post (when it wasn't directly referenced or necessary to do so) in order to somehow further legitimize your concern.
  • I point out that if it bothers you so much then don't come in here and read.
  • I still maintain that if you have a problem, then settle it in PM land.


Finally, it really is ironic if you objectively think about it. It's also kind of humourous. Here, let me summarize this as well:

  1. ProTech accuses you of cheating.
  2. You feel that your online reputation is at stake so you defend yourself so that everyone will cease to associate cheating with your SCII account.
  3. Me, as a first time browser of this particular thread, happen to read your post and have never heard of you before, now knows that ProTech called you a hacker.


BOOM. IRONY.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
CHOMPMannER
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada175 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-22 02:32:28
October 22 2011 02:32 GMT
#272
Looks like Protech is at it again... Just turned on his stream and he is team killing his ally...
http://www.mediafire.com/i/?imram84c7s2uaiw
[image loading]
http://www.ipstarcraft.com/ --iPCHOMP
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
October 22 2011 02:43 GMT
#273
On October 22 2011 11:32 CHOMPMannER wrote:
Looks like Protech is at it again... Just turned on his stream and he is team killing his ally...
http://www.mediafire.com/i/?imram84c7s2uaiw
[image loading]

ironically, by posting in his stream thread you are giving him free advertising. if you dont like his stream, just dont watch it and ignore him.
hipsterHobbit
Profile Joined September 2011
United States218 Posts
October 22 2011 02:44 GMT
#274
He's intentionally making his allies lose because he's having a bad night.

Featured 2v2 streamer.

more like featured bad attitude
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-22 03:38:43
October 22 2011 03:38 GMT
#275
On October 22 2011 11:32 CHOMPMannER wrote:
Looks like Protech is at it again... Just turned on his stream and he is team killing his ally...
http://www.mediafire.com/i/?imram84c7s2uaiw
[image loading]


I wasn't watching until the end but from what I saw aiproclan is getting queued with protech consistently and he isn't doing anything so the other team can win. protech is trying to get #1 RT in world but since proclan has #1 RT atm on euro server he's making protech lose games on purpose so he can maintain his rank. Thats the reason why he's playing counterstrike atm and not SC2

Of course he would have #1 RT or be much closer to it if it werent for the fact you teamkilled him like 20 times in a row a few weeks ago (of which protech saved replays to send to Blizzard)


Oh and mannerchomp, you're hardly a moral authority on anything mr comes in streamchat and tells me about how he steals empty kegs from brewery on graville island to sell on craigslist and is now being hunted down by that company
hihihi
CHOMPMannER
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada175 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-22 04:05:47
October 22 2011 03:51 GMT
#276
http://www.ipstarcraft.com/ --iPCHOMP
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-22 03:55:35
October 22 2011 03:54 GMT
#277
On October 21 2011 12:48 CHOMPMannER wrote:
Hmm I don't think this guys stream should be featured on Team Liquid.

He is blatantly racist and calls people the " N " word while streaming on this site. And calls people " f*cking f*ags" when he loses.

I don't condone any sort of racism, that is just offensive and wrong.



There's a little button you click upon entering my stream " This stream contains inappropriate material for minors, by clicking i am 18 years of age or older you understand that you're 18 years of age or older. "

not exactly, but the point is this stream is not for 15 year olds sorry if you can't handle the language.



you are also guilty of the same thing aiproclan was doing. so don't flood my thread with your nonsense.
CHOMPMannER
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada175 Posts
October 22 2011 03:58 GMT
#278
On October 22 2011 12:54 ProTech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2011 12:48 CHOMPMannER wrote:
Hmm I don't think this guys stream should be featured on Team Liquid.

He is blatantly racist and calls people the " N " word while streaming on this site. And calls people " f*cking f*ags" when he loses.

I don't condone any sort of racism, that is just offensive and wrong.



There's a little button you click upon entering my stream " This stream contains inappropriate material for minors, by clicking i am 18 years of age or older you understand that you're 18 years of age or older. "

not exactly, but the point is this stream is not for 15 year olds sorry if you can't handle the language.



you are also guilty of the same thing aiproclan was doing. so don't flood my thread with your nonsense.


Yeah by clicking that I expect to see explicit language, not racism Mr. Mike


Racism like any other form of bigotry and oppression is absolutely wrong because it denigrates and dehumanizes people. Every creature on this planet has the inalienable right to be treated with dignity. No person or group has the right to proclaim social superiority over any other. It is absolutely wrong /unjust for any person or group to vilify, oppress, persecute and terrorize others for their selfish amusement or aggrandizement. Its socially unacceptable.



http://www.ipstarcraft.com/ --iPCHOMP
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
October 22 2011 04:06 GMT
#279
On October 22 2011 12:51 CHOMPMannER wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 12:38 askTeivospy wrote:
On October 22 2011 11:32 CHOMPMannER wrote:
Looks like Protech is at it again... Just turned on his stream and he is team killing his ally...
http://www.mediafire.com/i/?imram84c7s2uaiw
[image loading]


I wasn't watching until the end but from what I saw aiproclan is getting queued with protech consistently and he isn't doing anything so the other team can win. protech is trying to get #1 RT in world but since proclan has #1 RT atm on euro server he's making protech lose games on purpose so he can maintain his rank. Thats the reason why he's playing counterstrike atm and not SC2

Of course he would have #1 RT or be much closer to it if it werent for the fact you teamkilled him like 20 times in a row a few weeks ago (of which protech saved replays to send to Blizzard)


Oh and mannerchomp, you're hardly a moral authority on anything mr comes in streamchat and tells me about how he steals empty kegs from brewery on graville island to sell on craigslist and is now being hunted down by that company



Anyone with a brain bigger than a pea knows protech is a baby... and by you believing everything he says means you got the dumb bro


Since you like screenshots why dont you go take screenshots of the army graph of the last 20 games protech played with aiproclan and try to photoshop it so it looks like aiproclan was actually making army. then come in this thread and claim protech is teamkilling his teammates on stream while he's trying to rank up in RT ladder
hihihi
CHOMPMannER
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada175 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-22 04:19:30
October 22 2011 04:09 GMT
#280
On October 22 2011 13:06 askTeivospy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 12:51 CHOMPMannER wrote:
On October 22 2011 12:38 askTeivospy wrote:
On October 22 2011 11:32 CHOMPMannER wrote:
Looks like Protech is at it again... Just turned on his stream and he is team killing his ally...
http://www.mediafire.com/i/?imram84c7s2uaiw
[image loading]


I wasn't watching until the end but from what I saw aiproclan is getting queued with protech consistently and he isn't doing anything so the other team can win. protech is trying to get #1 RT in world but since proclan has #1 RT atm on euro server he's making protech lose games on purpose so he can maintain his rank. Thats the reason why he's playing counterstrike atm and not SC2

Of course he would have #1 RT or be much closer to it if it werent for the fact you teamkilled him like 20 times in a row a few weeks ago (of which protech saved replays to send to Blizzard)


Oh and mannerchomp, you're hardly a moral authority on anything mr comes in streamchat and tells me about how he steals empty kegs from brewery on graville island to sell on craigslist and is now being hunted down by that company



Anyone with a brain bigger than a pea knows protech is a baby... and by you believing everything he says means you got the dumb bro


Since you like screenshots why dont you go take screenshots of the army graph of the last 20 games protech played with aiproclan and try to photoshop it so it looks like aiproclan was actually making army. then come in this thread and claim protech is teamkilling his teammates on stream while he's trying to rank up in RT ladder


Hmm I see nothing wrong with the way AIProClan was playing he is the #1 Ranked RT player in the world and is just trying new builds.

Every player has the right in which to play the game how he/she wants to play, and it is not up to you to determine if he is playing wrong or not.

I saw him trying mass Raven strategies, which there is nothing wrong with trying new things since the 2v2 META game hasn't really changed since the new maps came out.

Maybe go read the EULA before you determine what is right or wrong.


BTW Teivo I am interested to know what league you are in? Since you believe everything Protech says about stream cheaters and what not... I guess your knowledge and game sense is not very high... No Offence.
http://www.ipstarcraft.com/ --iPCHOMP
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
October 22 2011 04:10 GMT
#281
On October 22 2011 12:58 CHOMPMannER wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 12:54 ProTech wrote:
On October 21 2011 12:48 CHOMPMannER wrote:
Hmm I don't think this guys stream should be featured on Team Liquid.

He is blatantly racist and calls people the " N " word while streaming on this site. And calls people " f*cking f*ags" when he loses.

I don't condone any sort of racism, that is just offensive and wrong.



There's a little button you click upon entering my stream " This stream contains inappropriate material for minors, by clicking i am 18 years of age or older you understand that you're 18 years of age or older. "

not exactly, but the point is this stream is not for 15 year olds sorry if you can't handle the language.



you are also guilty of the same thing aiproclan was doing. so don't flood my thread with your nonsense.


Yeah by clicking that I expect to see explicit language, not racism Mr. Mike


Racism like any other form of bigotry and oppression is absolutely wrong because it denigrates and dehumanizes people. Every creature on this planet has the inalienable right to be treated with dignity. No person or group has the right to proclaim social superiority over any other. It is absolutely wrong /unjust for any person or group to vilify, oppress, persecute and terrorize others for their selfish amusement or aggrandizement. Its socially unacceptable.






No it's not, and we all know that you're taking this out of context completelty im not being racist. Sure, I said the N word, but i've said many times on my stream that im not racist, so grow up.
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-22 04:30:56
October 22 2011 04:21 GMT
#282
On October 22 2011 13:09 CHOMPMannER wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 13:06 askTeivospy wrote:
On October 22 2011 12:51 CHOMPMannER wrote:
On October 22 2011 12:38 askTeivospy wrote:
On October 22 2011 11:32 CHOMPMannER wrote:
Looks like Protech is at it again... Just turned on his stream and he is team killing his ally...
http://www.mediafire.com/i/?imram84c7s2uaiw
[image loading]


I wasn't watching until the end but from what I saw aiproclan is getting queued with protech consistently and he isn't doing anything so the other team can win. protech is trying to get #1 RT in world but since proclan has #1 RT atm on euro server he's making protech lose games on purpose so he can maintain his rank. Thats the reason why he's playing counterstrike atm and not SC2

Of course he would have #1 RT or be much closer to it if it werent for the fact you teamkilled him like 20 times in a row a few weeks ago (of which protech saved replays to send to Blizzard)


Oh and mannerchomp, you're hardly a moral authority on anything mr comes in streamchat and tells me about how he steals empty kegs from brewery on graville island to sell on craigslist and is now being hunted down by that company



Anyone with a brain bigger than a pea knows protech is a baby... and by you believing everything he says means you got the dumb bro


Since you like screenshots why dont you go take screenshots of the army graph of the last 20 games protech played with aiproclan and try to photoshop it so it looks like aiproclan was actually making army. then come in this thread and claim protech is teamkilling his teammates on stream while he's trying to rank up in RT ladder


Hmm I see nothing wrong with the way AIProClan was playing he is the #1 Ranked RT player in the world and is just trying new builds.

Every player has the right in which to play the game how he/she wants to play, and it is not up to you to determine if he is playing wrong or not.

I saw him trying mass Raven strategies, which there is nothing wrong with trying new things since the 2v2 META game hasn't really changed since the new maps came out.

Maybe go read the EULA before you determine what is right or wrong.


Trying new builds.

This is the army graph from that game of the screenshot that you posted (If i compare the time in screenshot with the resource collection graph it definitely is the same game). Note how none of protechs units are actually damaged. You'd think they would be damaged if proclan had some army available to attack at 10 minutes.
http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=imram84c7s2uaiw

this is what battle.net says about the game:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8181355/mannerchamp.png

#1 2v2r RT: ~2K unspent with 500 collection rate. Great builds.

btw here i photoshopped that army graph for that game for you:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8181355/mannerphoto.png

go photoshop the other 10-15 games where aiproclan did nothing (don't worry, in the 1 game where he was put on the other team he actually made some army so theres some less work for you too)

hihihi
CHOMPMannER
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada175 Posts
October 22 2011 04:30 GMT
#283
http://memegenerator.net/instance/10813356
http://www.ipstarcraft.com/ --iPCHOMP
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
October 22 2011 04:32 GMT
#284
On October 22 2011 11:44 hipsterHobbit wrote:
He's intentionally making his allies lose because he's having a bad night.

Featured 2v2 streamer.

more like featured bad attitude



he also left out that this person was also involved in the shenanigans
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-22 04:53:09
October 22 2011 04:52 GMT
#285
On October 22 2011 13:30 CHOMPMannER wrote:
http://memegenerator.net/instance/10813356


dood you are obsessed with protech 100% rofl. anyways i just showed you are more or less a liar so im out c u
hihihi
SoKHo
Profile Joined April 2011
Korea (South)1081 Posts
October 26 2011 01:27 GMT
#286
Just found out he's only diamond in 1v1 O_O thought he'd be at least low master
"If you don't understand my silence, you won't understand my words"|| Big Nal_rA fan boy!! Nal_rA, Bisu, Huk, MC, Hero fighting! SKT1---->
GoldRogers
Profile Joined October 2011
19 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-26 16:46:25
October 26 2011 16:43 GMT
#287
Frequently uses the "N" word, calls everyone a "F*cking F*ggot" who beats him in addition to accusing them of stream cheating/hacking. Not sure why this guy who can only 4 gate as protoss, 10 pool as zerg and 3 rax as terran is featured over someone who actually knows how to play. Honestly, I would rather see megumixbear featured over this guy. At least she contributes to the community instead of calling everyone a maphacker/N word.

He literally bans people who beat him from watching his stream afterwards. Extremely ill-manned and immature.
Rive
Profile Joined April 2011
United States11 Posts
October 31 2011 06:54 GMT
#288
Poor PorkTech The Pros think hes trash and the Newbs don't Care about him....for someone who plays 16 hours a day that makes me sad, Starcraft Purgatory
"I Enjoy Coffee Flavored Water..."
oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2904 Posts
October 31 2011 07:36 GMT
#289
On October 22 2011 12:58 CHOMPMannER wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 12:54 ProTech wrote:
On October 21 2011 12:48 CHOMPMannER wrote:
Hmm I don't think this guys stream should be featured on Team Liquid.

He is blatantly racist and calls people the " N " word while streaming on this site. And calls people " f*cking f*ags" when he loses.

I don't condone any sort of racism, that is just offensive and wrong.



There's a little button you click upon entering my stream " This stream contains inappropriate material for minors, by clicking i am 18 years of age or older you understand that you're 18 years of age or older. "

not exactly, but the point is this stream is not for 15 year olds sorry if you can't handle the language.



you are also guilty of the same thing aiproclan was doing. so don't flood my thread with your nonsense.


Yeah by clicking that I expect to see explicit language, not racism Mr. Mike


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Racism like any other form of bigotry and oppression is absolutely wrong because it denigrates and dehumanizes people. Every creature on this planet has the inalienable right to be treated with dignity. No person or group has the right to proclaim social superiority over any other. It is absolutely wrong /unjust for any person or group to vilify, oppress, persecute and terrorize others for their selfish amusement or aggrandizement. Its socially unacceptable.





I definitely agree with you, sir. There is a difference between the two.. some people are just too blind to notice.
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ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
October 31 2011 08:52 GMT
#290
more troll please.
rhs408
Profile Joined January 2011
United States904 Posts
October 31 2011 09:01 GMT
#291
MannerChomp is just jealous of ProTech's fame

He would stalk him irl if he could
CHOMPMannER
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada175 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-31 11:23:48
October 31 2011 11:22 GMT
#292
Lol Protech would get owned by me in 1v1, but hes never accepted the grudge match with his stream off.

Hes probably scared now after I beat his buddy tehredbandit the other day.

I'll give him 25 $ if he wants to make up for his stream revenue.
http://www.ipstarcraft.com/ --iPCHOMP
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
November 01 2011 09:06 GMT
#293
On October 31 2011 20:22 CHOMPMannER wrote:
Lol Protech would get owned by me in 1v1, but hes never accepted the grudge match with his stream off.

Hes probably scared now after I beat his buddy tehredbandit the other day.

I'll give him 25 $ if he wants to make up for his stream revenue.



k you send money, and we still dont play.
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
November 01 2011 09:08 GMT
#294
On October 26 2011 10:27 SoKHo wrote:
Just found out he's only diamond in 1v1 O_O thought he'd be at least low master



I use many different accounts so that I can find 2v2s faster for my stream. If I try searching for a game on my main account it can take up to 30 mins at a time.

That being said, whatever you " see " my ranks are in other leagues always keep in mind that if you don't see " haCkProTech " it was not my account originally.

I am not diamond in 1v1, I am mid-high masters

You can check my match history on haCkProTech and see that I play against named players in 1v1 as well.
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
November 01 2011 09:11 GMT
#295
On October 31 2011 15:54 Rive wrote:
Poor PorkTech The Pros think hes trash and the Newbs don't Care about him....for someone who plays 16 hours a day that makes me sad, Starcraft Purgatory



Hmm, and you are friends with sorcery. That's the reason I banned you and demod you, don't get the wrong idea you're cool. It's just that I can't have people who are associated with sorcery as a mod on my stream.
CHOMPMannER
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada175 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-01 11:12:58
November 01 2011 11:12 GMT
#296
http://www.ipstarcraft.com/ --iPCHOMP
Rive
Profile Joined April 2011
United States11 Posts
November 01 2011 11:48 GMT
#297
LOL "I am Friends With Sorcery" That's funny coming from you, since I've never played with him in 2v2, and you clearly have...that seems more or less a false statement but its cool, i expect this from you. But GL getting featured again!! -.-
"I Enjoy Coffee Flavored Water..."
MaV_gGSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1345 Posts
November 01 2011 12:32 GMT
#298
Sick strategies pro tech :D
Life's good :D
SlimeBagly
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
356 Posts
November 01 2011 13:03 GMT
#299
Big fan protech, sorry to see you lose featured status. My zerg 2v2 got way better since I started watching your stream, and I'll keep watching it featured or otherwise!
mutalisks are awesome!
CHOMPMannER
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada175 Posts
November 01 2011 13:08 GMT
#300
protech check 1v1 grandmaster?

sup son?
http://www.ipstarcraft.com/ --iPCHOMP
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
November 01 2011 13:14 GMT
#301
sad to see your stream defeatured, as i felt your 2on2 stream was in a compareable niche as the broodwar streams are in. not many viewers, but still high skill play.
keep it deep! @zulison
Rive
Profile Joined April 2011
United States11 Posts
November 01 2011 13:28 GMT
#302
On November 01 2011 22:08 CHOMPMannER wrote:
protech check 1v1 grandmaster?

sup son?




Congratulations to Mannerchomp, He is someone who should be featured since he's actually grandmaster and all, oh well
"I Enjoy Coffee Flavored Water..."
Azide
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada566 Posts
November 01 2011 16:34 GMT
#303
On October 31 2011 20:22 CHOMPMannER wrote:
Lol Protech would get owned by me in 1v1, but hes never accepted the grudge match with his stream off.

Hes probably scared now after I beat his buddy tehredbandit the other day.

I'll give him 25 $ if he wants to make up for his stream revenue.


mannerchomp would rape protech ez. GM vs diamond LOL

LOL @ defeatured. wow. protech hit an all new low in his 14 year career
Azide and SuperNinja - Best Double Protoss 2v2 Team!
GoldRogers
Profile Joined October 2011
19 Posts
November 01 2011 16:37 GMT
#304
Protech would probably accuse mannerchomp of stream cheating after his only protoss build (4 gate) fails.
Rive
Profile Joined April 2011
United States11 Posts
November 01 2011 16:39 GMT
#305
The only way Mannerchomp would win would be....Stream Cheating...Hacking....The Map....Bad Position....Lag...More Hacks...More Stream Cheating...Off Race...Stream Cheating....Production Hack...3 Monitors With Hacks.....The Map...uhhh i think i covered them all?
"I Enjoy Coffee Flavored Water..."
GoldRogers
Profile Joined October 2011
19 Posts
November 01 2011 16:39 GMT
#306
On November 02 2011 01:39 Rive wrote:
The only way Mannerchomp would win would be....Stream Cheating...Hacking....The Map....Bad Position....Lag...More Hacks...More Stream Cheating...Off Race...Stream Cheating....Production Hack...3 Monitors With Hacks.....The Map...uhhh i think i covered them all?


You forgot race imbalance but yea pretty comprehensive.
Rive
Profile Joined April 2011
United States11 Posts
November 01 2011 16:41 GMT
#307
AH! i knew i missed one, thanks
"I Enjoy Coffee Flavored Water..."
Azide
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada566 Posts
November 01 2011 16:43 GMT
#308
you forgot mannerchomp would be playing protoss and that race is imba now since the immortal buff patch. not to mention all the fucking shit they can do yet being regarded as the worst race
Azide and SuperNinja - Best Double Protoss 2v2 Team!
Rive
Profile Joined April 2011
United States11 Posts
November 01 2011 16:44 GMT
#309
On November 02 2011 01:43 Azide wrote:
you forgot mannerchomp would be playing protoss and that race is imba now since the immortal buff patch. not to mention all the fucking shit they can do yet being regarded as the worst race




LMAO
"I Enjoy Coffee Flavored Water..."
oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2904 Posts
November 01 2011 17:30 GMT
#310
ProTech de-featured.. GG
말크 : ^_^~ NeO)GabuAt, vGODieN
Makica
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada180 Posts
November 01 2011 18:07 GMT
#311
The major fault of this stream is that ProTech doesn't help the 2v2 scene at all apart from himself. Any team he loses to he accuses of stream cheating, doing some unfair strategy, etc and goes on a tirade about how bad they are. If you post anything in his chat that might be contradictory to that rhetoric you get banned. I would tune in more if he didn't try to turn me off every other 2v2 except for him. I'm looking for a positive atmosphere for team games, which I enjoy and would like to see promoted.

VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-01 18:23:11
November 01 2011 18:15 GMT
#312
@Rive: Why you so BM towards ProTech now? Thought you guys were cool. You that mad about losing mod powers in a chat room?
@Gold: Did you actually make an account just to BM somebody in their own streaming topic? Lmfao. How old are you exactly?
@Odien: Wow, really? That's pretty BM of you, son.
@Azide: He's actually not Diamond 1v1, but nice try. Oh wait, no it wasn't.

Edit:
@Makica: You sure are exaggerating a fair bit. He doesn't accuse EVERYBODY of stream cheating. It's the small group of people (like Mannerchomp) that constantly match up with him and do their usual BM/garbage, and "just happen" to do the exact opener that's strong (or the counter) vs the build that he does, regardless of which opener he happens to do without scouting. If he actually DID accuse everybody, he wouldn't have a fanbase at all.

Also, IdrA calls like everybody bad. IdrA complains about abusive strategies. What's your point about that?
VashTS; 330; Random -- Ranked #9 Pokemon Video Game Player in the World in 2009
oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2904 Posts
November 01 2011 18:17 GMT
#313
On November 02 2011 03:15 VashTS wrote:
@Rive: Why you so BM towards ProTech now? Thought you guys were cool. You that mad about losing mod powers in a chat room?
@Gold: Did you actually make an account just to BM somebody in their own streaming topic? Lmfao. How old are you exactly?
@Odien: Wow, really? That's pretty BM of you, son.
@Azide: He's actually not Diamond 1v1, but nice try. Oh wait, no it wasn't.

Whoa whoa, I'm sorry Mr. Ranked #9 Pokemon Video Game Player IN TEH' WOOOOOOOORLD in 2009.
I so sawwy. Pwease forgive moi.
말크 : ^_^~ NeO)GabuAt, vGODieN
Azide
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada566 Posts
November 01 2011 18:22 GMT
#314
sorry VashTS for not keeping track of his 25 accounts to know
Azide and SuperNinja - Best Double Protoss 2v2 Team!
VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
November 01 2011 18:23 GMT
#315
@above: You damn right you're both sorry. xD
VashTS; 330; Random -- Ranked #9 Pokemon Video Game Player in the World in 2009
GoldRogers
Profile Joined October 2011
19 Posts
November 01 2011 18:32 GMT
#316
Idra is a Code S player, Protech is an racist low masters player that only knows how to all in. That's the difference. Idra can act however he wants when hes one of the best foreign zergs in the world. Protech cheeses every game (giving a bad taste to team games) and accuses everyone that beats him of hacking/stream cheating/race/map imbalance etc.
VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-01 19:02:57
November 01 2011 18:53 GMT
#317
So, more or less, the punishment should fit the person, not the crime.

That's great.

Edit:
Also, IdrA is not Code S
Also, Protech doesn't cheese every game.
Also, he doesn't accuse EVERYBODY of bs/cheating.

Use less lying, please. If you're gonna make him look bad, at least make it accurate.
VashTS; 330; Random -- Ranked #9 Pokemon Video Game Player in the World in 2009
Azide
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada566 Posts
November 01 2011 19:07 GMT
#318
"idra is a code s player" --> he plays at the Code S level

Azide and SuperNinja - Best Double Protoss 2v2 Team!
Makica
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada180 Posts
November 01 2011 19:08 GMT
#319
On November 02 2011 03:15 VashTS wrote:
@Rive: Why you so BM towards ProTech now? Thought you guys were cool. You that mad about losing mod powers in a chat room?
@Gold: Did you actually make an account just to BM somebody in their own streaming topic? Lmfao. How old are you exactly?
@Odien: Wow, really? That's pretty BM of you, son.
@Azide: He's actually not Diamond 1v1, but nice try. Oh wait, no it wasn't.

Edit:
@Makica: You sure are exaggerating a fair bit. He doesn't accuse EVERYBODY of stream cheating. It's the small group of people (like Mannerchomp) that constantly match up with him and do their usual BM/garbage, and "just happen" to do the exact opener that's strong (or the counter) vs the build that he does, regardless of which opener he happens to do without scouting. If he actually DID accuse everybody, he wouldn't have a fanbase at all.

Also, IdrA calls like everybody bad. IdrA complains about abusive strategies. What's your point about that?


I didn't say he accuses everyone of stream cheating. I said he disparages everyone he loses to in different ways. Some people do match him and stream cheat. However, this is probably 10% of those whom he accuses of doing so.
hipsterHobbit
Profile Joined September 2011
United States218 Posts
November 01 2011 19:09 GMT
#320
This is awesome. Maybe now Protech can enjoy playing again since it won't be his job to play 20 hours a day.

Good job alienating the entire community from 2v2 as well as alienating yourself.

Glad TL supported that so long
SlimeBagly
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
356 Posts
November 01 2011 19:20 GMT
#321
Why is there so much hate in this thread?!

I couldn't care less what his 1v1 rank is, he's got his niche in 2v2 and he's really good at it.
mutalisks are awesome!
RastaMonsta
Profile Joined October 2011
304 Posts
November 01 2011 19:22 GMT
#322
idk why every1 is hatin on protech, hes a solid player n does his thing. whats the problem?
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-01 20:04:47
November 01 2011 19:59 GMT
#323
a lot of streams were defeatured for w/e reason today. Looking at the names of who were unfeatured and who remained its pretty obvious (and lame) what their motivation was but i'm not going to speculate about it
hihihi
CursedFeanor
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada539 Posts
November 01 2011 20:35 GMT
#324
It's really retarded that ProTech was defeatured... It's a slap in the face of everyone who enjoys 2v2. I thought TL was more open-minded, but apparently not.

Defeaturing the (arguably) best 2v2 player in the world is stupid, no matter what you think about him personally.

Anyway I hope you keep streaming ProTech and we'll keep watching!
oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2904 Posts
November 01 2011 20:45 GMT
#325
On November 02 2011 05:35 CursedFeanor wrote:
It's really retarded that ProTech was defeatured... It's a slap in the face of everyone who enjoys 2v2. I thought TL was more open-minded, but apparently not.

Defeaturing the (arguably) best 2v2 player in the world is stupid, no matter what you think about him personally.

Anyway I hope you keep streaming ProTech and we'll keep watching!

ProTech making racial slurs is not great for the TL.net community and/or sponsors who come to this website and view "featured streams" as it just makes TL.net look bad as an image due to supporting ProTech by featuring him.
He also abuses his commercial power by running 3-5 at a time back to back, also treys his viewers like shit if they were to say one thing ProTech doesn't agree with, constructive criticism, bm or not. he straight up bans them, no time outs or anything. He deserved to be de-featured.
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Rive
Profile Joined April 2011
United States11 Posts
November 01 2011 20:53 GMT
#326
On November 02 2011 03:15 VashTS wrote:
@Rive: Why you so BM towards ProTech now? Thought you guys were cool. You that mad about losing mod powers in a chat room?
@Gold: Did you actually make an account just to BM somebody in their own streaming topic? Lmfao. How old are you exactly?
@Odien: Wow, really? That's pretty BM of you, son.
@Azide: He's actually not Diamond 1v1, but nice try. Oh wait, no it wasn't.

Edit:
@Makica: You sure are exaggerating a fair bit. He doesn't accuse EVERYBODY of stream cheating. It's the small group of people (like Mannerchomp) that constantly match up with him and do their usual BM/garbage, and "just happen" to do the exact opener that's strong (or the counter) vs the build that he does, regardless of which opener he happens to do without scouting. If he actually DID accuse everybody, he wouldn't have a fanbase at all.

Also, IdrA calls like everybody bad. IdrA complains about abusive strategies. What's your point about that?




No VashTS i am not upset of losing my "MOD" I am annoyed with his constant complaining. He Decides to Report Players for Trolling him, when he did the same exact thing to lower level players! Hypocritical? I think So. The Fact that every good player in the 2v2 scene thinks hes a total douche bag must mean something.
"I Enjoy Coffee Flavored Water..."
stormchaser
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada1009 Posts
November 01 2011 20:58 GMT
#327
On November 02 2011 05:45 ODieN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 05:35 CursedFeanor wrote:
It's really retarded that ProTech was defeatured... It's a slap in the face of everyone who enjoys 2v2. I thought TL was more open-minded, but apparently not.

Defeaturing the (arguably) best 2v2 player in the world is stupid, no matter what you think about him personally.

Anyway I hope you keep streaming ProTech and we'll keep watching!

ProTech making racial slurs is not great for the TL.net community and/or sponsors who come to this website and view "featured streams" as it just makes TL.net look bad as an image due to supporting ProTech by featuring him.
He also abuses his commercial power by running 3-5 at a time back to back, also treys his viewers like shit if they were to say one thing ProTech doesn't agree with, constructive criticism, bm or not. he straight up bans them, no time outs or anything. He deserved to be de-featured.

I think this man said it best. Not to mention, I don't remember him ever getting over 100 viewers, why feature a stream that isn't generally popular?
SlimeBagly
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
356 Posts
November 01 2011 21:01 GMT
#328
On November 02 2011 05:45 ODieN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 05:35 CursedFeanor wrote:
It's really retarded that ProTech was defeatured... It's a slap in the face of everyone who enjoys 2v2. I thought TL was more open-minded, but apparently not.

Defeaturing the (arguably) best 2v2 player in the world is stupid, no matter what you think about him personally.

Anyway I hope you keep streaming ProTech and we'll keep watching!

ProTech making racial slurs is not great for the TL.net community and/or sponsors who come to this website and view "featured streams" as it just makes TL.net look bad as an image due to supporting ProTech by featuring him.
He also abuses his commercial power by running 3-5 at a time back to back, also treys his viewers like shit if they were to say one thing ProTech doesn't agree with, constructive criticism, bm or not. he straight up bans them, no time outs or anything. He deserved to be de-featured.



I'll believe that's the reason when they de-feature destiny.
mutalisks are awesome!
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
November 01 2011 21:06 GMT
#329
On November 02 2011 06:01 SlimeBagly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 05:45 ODieN wrote:
On November 02 2011 05:35 CursedFeanor wrote:
It's really retarded that ProTech was defeatured... It's a slap in the face of everyone who enjoys 2v2. I thought TL was more open-minded, but apparently not.

Defeaturing the (arguably) best 2v2 player in the world is stupid, no matter what you think about him personally.

Anyway I hope you keep streaming ProTech and we'll keep watching!

ProTech making racial slurs is not great for the TL.net community and/or sponsors who come to this website and view "featured streams" as it just makes TL.net look bad as an image due to supporting ProTech by featuring him.
He also abuses his commercial power by running 3-5 at a time back to back, also treys his viewers like shit if they were to say one thing ProTech doesn't agree with, constructive criticism, bm or not. he straight up bans them, no time outs or anything. He deserved to be de-featured.



I'll believe that's the reason when they de-feature destiny.

destiny is still featured. they dont care about the whole "nigger" thing. probably because its an above 18 years old stream.

you guys arent focusing on the correct thing though. protech should be happy that he was defeatured. now that he is in the graveyard, nobody is going to take the time to find his stream. ergo, less stream cheating. focus on the silver lining.
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-01 21:36:15
November 01 2011 21:23 GMT
#330
On November 02 2011 06:01 SlimeBagly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 05:45 ODieN wrote:
On November 02 2011 05:35 CursedFeanor wrote:
It's really retarded that ProTech was defeatured... It's a slap in the face of everyone who enjoys 2v2. I thought TL was more open-minded, but apparently not.

Defeaturing the (arguably) best 2v2 player in the world is stupid, no matter what you think about him personally.

Anyway I hope you keep streaming ProTech and we'll keep watching!

ProTech making racial slurs is not great for the TL.net community and/or sponsors who come to this website and view "featured streams" as it just makes TL.net look bad as an image due to supporting ProTech by featuring him.
He also abuses his commercial power by running 3-5 at a time back to back, also treys his viewers like shit if they were to say one thing ProTech doesn't agree with, constructive criticism, bm or not. he straight up bans them, no time outs or anything. He deserved to be de-featured.



I'll believe that's the reason when they de-feature destiny.


Nazgul wrote in the site changes thread that they might have overlooked the contribution of ProTech (probably because he plays team games) and that they will have an internal discussion about him. This might be a good idea to post here with your views.

Edit: Also post here.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
GoldRogers
Profile Joined October 2011
19 Posts
November 01 2011 21:46 GMT
#331
On November 02 2011 05:35 CursedFeanor wrote:
It's really retarded that ProTech was defeatured... It's a slap in the face of everyone who enjoys 2v2. I thought TL was more open-minded, but apparently not.

Defeaturing the (arguably) best 2v2 player in the world is stupid, no matter what you think about him personally.

Anyway I hope you keep streaming ProTech and we'll keep watching!


This guy is obviously trolling, calling someone who only knows how to 4 gate as toss, the best 2v2 player in the world is rediculous. All of his arranged teammates are GM's or former GM's which is the only reason he won the PTSL. Power/destructive, tehredbandit, has a higher score than him 90% of the games (carrying). This bitter immature person only knows how to all in and he does it very well, but that doesn't qualify him to be the "best" 2v2 player. There is a reason Team Wizards got picked up by fnatic and protech is teamless. When you try to troll, at least make it less obvious.
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-01 21:53:39
November 01 2011 21:51 GMT
#332
too many low posters trolling protech, too bad we can compare IPs to see its the same people

Anyways I post this in the other thread


Protech

1. High skill level / tournament results > 1v1 rank masters and despite being a 2v2'r he queued up against GM players whenever he plays 1v1 on his main account. 4th in first PTSL and 1st in second ptsl and obviously will be high in the next one. Routinely gets top score on 2v2 random team ladder even with people teamkilling him

2. High average viewer count > not sure what high is but he averages 250-400 people during euro times, not sure about american times.

3. Notability / contribution -> only dedicated 2v2 streamer in a slew of 1v1 users. 1v1 is great but esports needs to exist outside of 1v1 sc2 and A LOT of people enjoy 2v2. 2v2 isn't relatively popular compared to 1v1 of course but if this bracket needs to grow it needs dedicated streamers

4. Activity -> streams all the time

refeature plz
hihihi
Mythito
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada230 Posts
November 01 2011 23:05 GMT
#333
Where it's true Protech blames too many people for cheating in some way, it's reasonable that he does that because there are like 15 people who cheat or troll him so much it makes sense he's paranoid that everyone else is doing it too. He's like that kid that has a fit when people pick on him so they keep provoking him to get reactions, it's ridiculous and childish how proclan and mannerchomp and azide and all the others act around him just to get giggles about how he gets upset
Did everything just taste purple for a second?
nick3kz
Profile Joined July 2011
United States4 Posts
November 01 2011 23:29 GMT
#334
Is Protech Perfect? No. Look you either love him or hate him. I personally like 2v2. I watch him all the time. I like my 1v1s as well and have certain streamers i watch for that as well.

From what i have seen generally if you dont troll him he wont troll you back. I know he's not manner all the time but that shouldnt take away from how good this guy really is. He has the talent to be a good 1v1 player if he set his mind too it.

And like him or not he has a ton of knowledge about the game. He is always giving good information and he knows the ins and outs of all the races. For players who aren't masters caliber like myself his stream is a very good stream to learn from as 90%+ of the streams out there the casters rarely if ever give insight into why they go certain builds or what they are seeing.

His stream count seems to avg around 300 in the evening Central time but ive seen it around 1000 before during the Night hours on the NA server.

Having TL not feature his stream would be a disservice to esports and the game of SC2 specifically. I believe he should be re-featured.

Perseverance
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan2800 Posts
November 01 2011 23:29 GMT
#335
On November 02 2011 08:05 Mythito wrote:
Where it's true Protech blames too many people for cheating in some way, it's reasonable that he does that because there are like 15 people who cheat or troll him so much it makes sense he's paranoid that everyone else is doing it too. He's like that kid that has a fit when people pick on him so they keep provoking him to get reactions, it's ridiculous and childish how proclan and mannerchomp and azide and all the others act around him just to get giggles about how he gets upset



Have you ever wondered why SO MANY people act this way towards Protech? I've actually watched him play vs optikzero and SeleCT, lose like 5 games in a row...and then accuse them of possibly stream cheating. I mean, really? Honestly, he brings all the hate/rage on himself.
<3 Moonbattles
Otak
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom110 Posts
November 01 2011 23:41 GMT
#336
On November 02 2011 05:45 ODieN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 05:35 CursedFeanor wrote:
It's really retarded that ProTech was defeatured... It's a slap in the face of everyone who enjoys 2v2. I thought TL was more open-minded, but apparently not.

Defeaturing the (arguably) best 2v2 player in the world is stupid, no matter what you think about him personally.

Anyway I hope you keep streaming ProTech and we'll keep watching!

ProTech making racial slurs is not great for the TL.net community and/or sponsors who come to this website and view "featured streams" as it just makes TL.net look bad as an image due to supporting ProTech by featuring him.
He also abuses his commercial power by running 3-5 at a time back to back, also treys his viewers like shit if they were to say one thing ProTech doesn't agree with, constructive criticism, bm or not. he straight up bans them, no time outs or anything. He deserved to be de-featured.


Not to say it hasn't happened but I have watched Protech's stream A LOT and I have never once seen any kind of racial slur.
Mythito
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada230 Posts
November 01 2011 23:45 GMT
#337
On November 02 2011 08:29 Perseverance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 08:05 Mythito wrote:
Where it's true Protech blames too many people for cheating in some way, it's reasonable that he does that because there are like 15 people who cheat or troll him so much it makes sense he's paranoid that everyone else is doing it too. He's like that kid that has a fit when people pick on him so they keep provoking him to get reactions, it's ridiculous and childish how proclan and mannerchomp and azide and all the others act around him just to get giggles about how he gets upset



Have you ever wondered why SO MANY people act this way towards Protech? I've actually watched him play vs optikzero and SeleCT, lose like 5 games in a row...and then accuse them of possibly stream cheating. I mean, really? Honestly, he brings all the hate/rage on himself.



No, I don't wonder why "SO MANY" people act this way toward Protech, in fact, I posted why people act this way toward him. Maybe you should try reading what I posted instead of skimming it or reading the first 10 words and just assuming you know what the rest says based on your previous experiences?
Did everything just taste purple for a second?
hitthebong
Profile Joined November 2011
United States6 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 00:25:35
November 02 2011 00:17 GMT
#338
On November 01 2011 20:48 Rive wrote:
LOL "I am Friends With Sorcery" That's funny coming from you, since I've never played with him in 2v2, and you clearly have...that seems more or less a false statement but its cool, i expect this from you. But GL getting featured again!! -.-



Rive, I have found you a few times, on different occasions, hanging out in Vitamins stream when he and sorcery were sniping protech.

I was the first one to tell protech about it, well over a month ago, and had it confirmed by others in chat.

I mean, who knows, I guess you were just there to watch all those bodybuilder youtube videos, right?


Anyway, I have watched Protech's stream for a while now. Sometimes he gets stream cheated. Sometimes, he says straight up "No, I just got beat that game". But mostly, he generally just accepts defeat and moves on to the next game.


People exaggerate to make it seem like EVERY loss, Protech uses an excuse as to why it was a loss. That's not the case. If you say otherwise, then you obviously aren't watching the stream, meaning that you can't even begin to make an argument against that point.

Lastly, even I will admit that sometimes Protech can be BM. Let's be realistic ... BM IS INHERENT IN 99.9% OF GAMERS. It is what it is. You can call Protech out on it, but just like you trolls and shit talkers on this stream, who are being BM with your posts, ........ C'mon. Lets not be hypocrites.
(╮°_°)╮┳┳(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻┻
sunman1g
Profile Joined May 2011
United States334 Posts
November 02 2011 00:22 GMT
#339
the only time I watched protech was insanely BM and I never watched him again.
I do not think someone like that should be featured
hitthebong
Profile Joined November 2011
United States6 Posts
November 02 2011 00:23 GMT
#340
On November 02 2011 09:22 sunman1g wrote:
the only time I watched protech was insanely BM and I never watched him again.
I do not think someone like that should be featured



Lol, then with that argument, Destiny shouldnt be featured either.

oh wait...he's..... still ..... there ..... ?
(╮°_°)╮┳┳(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻┻
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 00:40:00
November 02 2011 00:35 GMT
#341
On November 02 2011 08:29 Perseverance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 08:05 Mythito wrote:
Where it's true Protech blames too many people for cheating in some way, it's reasonable that he does that because there are like 15 people who cheat or troll him so much it makes sense he's paranoid that everyone else is doing it too. He's like that kid that has a fit when people pick on him so they keep provoking him to get reactions, it's ridiculous and childish how proclan and mannerchomp and azide and all the others act around him just to get giggles about how he gets upset



Have you ever wondered why SO MANY people act this way towards Protech? I've actually watched him play vs optikzero and SeleCT, lose like 5 games in a row...and then accuse them of possibly stream cheating. I mean, really? Honestly, he brings all the hate/rage on himself.



No, I did not. Are you out of your mind? I know karl from bw days, don't post things that aren't true.

EDIT: and the only negative comment that I made in regards to those games is that TP is imbal against ZZ.
CHOMPMannER
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada175 Posts
November 02 2011 00:36 GMT
#342
lolol this is too funny, protech time to get a day job @ mcdonalds
http://www.ipstarcraft.com/ --iPCHOMP
Rive
Profile Joined April 2011
United States11 Posts
November 02 2011 00:38 GMT
#343
On November 02 2011 09:17 hitthebong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 20:48 Rive wrote:
LOL "I am Friends With Sorcery" That's funny coming from you, since I've never played with him in 2v2, and you clearly have...that seems more or less a false statement but its cool, i expect this from you. But GL getting featured again!! -.-



Rive, I have found you a few times, on different occasions, hanging out in Vitamins stream when he and sorcery were sniping protech.

I was the first one to tell protech about it, well over a month ago, and had it confirmed by others in chat.

I mean, who knows, I guess you were just there to watch all those bodybuilder youtube videos, right?


Anyway, I have watched Protech's stream for a while now. Sometimes he gets stream cheated. Sometimes, he says straight up "No, I just got beat that game". But mostly, he generally just accepts defeat and moves on to the next game.


People exaggerate to make it seem like EVERY loss, Protech uses an excuse as to why it was a loss. That's not the case. If you say otherwise, then you obviously aren't watching the stream, meaning that you can't even begin to make an argument against that point.

Lastly, even I will admit that sometimes Protech can be BM. Let's be realistic ... BM IS INHERENT IN 99.9% OF GAMERS. It is what it is. You can call Protech out on it, but just like you trolls and shit talkers on this stream, who are being BM with your posts, ........ C'mon. Lets not be hypocrites.




LOL,You are hilarious! You saw me on sorcerys stream huh? Well BRO the funny part about this whole thing is ...Protech 2v2 partner now plays with Vitamin...(tqgotslamt) So what does that tell you? You better go taddle on him to. You are defending the defenseless
"I Enjoy Coffee Flavored Water..."
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
November 02 2011 00:38 GMT
#344
On November 02 2011 06:46 GoldRogers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 05:35 CursedFeanor wrote:
It's really retarded that ProTech was defeatured... It's a slap in the face of everyone who enjoys 2v2. I thought TL was more open-minded, but apparently not.

Defeaturing the (arguably) best 2v2 player in the world is stupid, no matter what you think about him personally.

Anyway I hope you keep streaming ProTech and we'll keep watching!


This guy is obviously trolling, calling someone who only knows how to 4 gate as toss, the best 2v2 player in the world is rediculous. All of his arranged teammates are GM's or former GM's which is the only reason he won the PTSL. Power/destructive, tehredbandit, has a higher score than him 90% of the games (carrying). This bitter immature person only knows how to all in and he does it very well, but that doesn't qualify him to be the "best" 2v2 player. There is a reason Team Wizards got picked up by fnatic and protech is teamless. When you try to troll, at least make it less obvious.



Just to make this clear, I have no interest in joining a team, and I have said that plenty of times on my stream. Whether or not they picked up wizards for the reason that I'm just a BM player, I don't know. But I can assure you that even IF they had contacted me in regards to joining a team, I don't have any interest.
hitthebong
Profile Joined November 2011
United States6 Posts
November 02 2011 00:47 GMT
#345
On November 01 2011 20:48 Rive wrote:
LOL,You are hilarious! You saw me on sorcerys stream huh? Well BRO the funny part about this whole thing is ...Protech 2v2 partner now plays with Vitamin...(tqgotslamt) So what does that tell you? You better go taddle on him to. You are defending the defenseless





Rive, getslamt was protechs partner for how long? a few weeks? lol.

I don't need to defend Protech. He's a grown man, he can take care of himself im sure. I just call it how i see it. And the way I see it, by your numerous angry posts on this thread, you're just mad. SO mad. Grow up, "BRO".

"LOL"
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CHOMPMannER
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada175 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 00:51:38
November 02 2011 00:51 GMT
#346
ur saying hes so mad SO mad and tell him to grow up? lolol

Just goes to show the maturity level of Protechs stream fan boys
http://www.ipstarcraft.com/ --iPCHOMP
sunman1g
Profile Joined May 2011
United States334 Posts
November 02 2011 00:51 GMT
#347
On November 02 2011 09:23 hitthebong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 09:22 sunman1g wrote:
the only time I watched protech was insanely BM and I never watched him again.
I do not think someone like that should be featured



Lol, then with that argument, Destiny shouldnt be featured either.

oh wait...he's..... still ..... there ..... ?


if you watched destiny you knew that he jokes a lot.
he would never say a racial slur and if he said it he would make it as a joke.

protech clearly used racial slur in a serious situation and he did not mean to make a funny joke or anything.
hitthebong
Profile Joined November 2011
United States6 Posts
November 02 2011 00:56 GMT
#348
On November 02 2011 09:51 CHOMPMannER wrote:
ur saying hes so mad SO mad and tell him to grow up? lolol

Just goes to show the maturity level of Protechs stream fan boys




You got it, Mannerchomp. I'm just an immature fanboy.

What are you?

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Rive
Profile Joined April 2011
United States11 Posts
November 02 2011 00:59 GMT
#349
On November 02 2011 09:47 hitthebong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 20:48 Rive wrote:
LOL,You are hilarious! You saw me on sorcerys stream huh? Well BRO the funny part about this whole thing is ...Protech 2v2 partner now plays with Vitamin...(tqgotslamt) So what does that tell you? You better go taddle on him to. You are defending the defenseless





Rive, getslamt was protechs partner for how long? a few weeks? lol.

I don't need to defend Protech. He's a grown man, he can take care of himself im sure. I just call it how i see it. And the way I see it, by your numerous angry posts on this thread, you're just mad. SO mad. Grow up, "BRO".

"LOL"



hitthebong, You said "I was watching sorcerys stream" That means by implication you were as well...now...you should ban yourself for committing such a sin. And the reason Protech Banned me in the first place is because i called him out on Reporting people for Trolling him, Yet he does the same to bronze lvl 4v4 guys.
"I Enjoy Coffee Flavored Water..."
Otak
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom110 Posts
November 02 2011 01:02 GMT
#350
looool I love how mannerchomp sticks his nose in all over the place. Protech is so bad and unworthy of attention yet mannerchomp has to spend time posting in his stream thread. At least there's no danger of anyone posting in yours though hey?


getslamt was really whiny anyway i'm glad protech doesn't play with him anymore, he was so irritating on stream.

It really does make me laugh when people actively spend their time posting over and over in this thread bm'ing protech. It's obvious that you all have something personal against him (either that or you have the mentality of a 13 year old high school girl) so your arguments will never be taken seriously. No-one in here who is saying anything bad has any reason why they should be taken seriously. Mannerchomp has team killed when he's got matched with protech before which is far worse in game bm than anything protech has done.


ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
November 02 2011 01:06 GMT
#351
On November 02 2011 09:59 Rive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 09:47 hitthebong wrote:
On November 01 2011 20:48 Rive wrote:
LOL,You are hilarious! You saw me on sorcerys stream huh? Well BRO the funny part about this whole thing is ...Protech 2v2 partner now plays with Vitamin...(tqgotslamt) So what does that tell you? You better go taddle on him to. You are defending the defenseless





Rive, getslamt was protechs partner for how long? a few weeks? lol.

I don't need to defend Protech. He's a grown man, he can take care of himself im sure. I just call it how i see it. And the way I see it, by your numerous angry posts on this thread, you're just mad. SO mad. Grow up, "BRO".

"LOL"



hitthebong, You said "I was watching sorcerys stream" That means by implication you were as well...now...you should ban yourself for committing such a sin. And the reason Protech Banned me in the first place is because i called him out on Reporting people for Trolling him, Yet he does the same to bronze lvl 4v4 guys.



And i cut it out completely.
CHOMPMannER
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada175 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 01:22:35
November 02 2011 01:21 GMT
#352
And people wonder why I team killed him?

He accused me of stream cheating and hacking he deserved it

Kid doesnt understand that he only has a few bad builds.. And if you survive vs Protech in the first 8 minutes, you win.
http://www.ipstarcraft.com/ --iPCHOMP
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 01:31:00
November 02 2011 01:25 GMT
#353
On November 02 2011 10:21 CHOMPMannER wrote:
And people wonder why I team killed him?

He accused me of stream cheating and hacking he deserved it

Kid doesnt understand that he only has a few bad builds.. And if you survive vs Protech in the first 8 minutes, you win.



Mannerchomp, I've proven how you stream cheat time and time again, and I've made it blatantly obvious to my audience, and most people would agree with me.

And I've also said many times on my stream that, if you do stream cheat it's a risk that us streamers take ( as I cannot put a delay on my stream right now because of the multistream bug ) so I wouldn't rage about it if people were upfront about it. For example this guy who I've been recently playing against: America. He's obvious about it, and do I rage about it? No because again, it's risk that you take when you stream.

On another note, I never accused you of "HACKING" not even once. The only thing that I ever accused you of was stream cheating and I have very good grounds to make that accusation.

And someone with a personality like yours it's very believable that you would do something like that.

EDIT:

And for the record people have witnessed me lose games to players such as:

Gatored / Geno
mystik / illusive
getslamt / trb
Azide / SuperNinja

Those are the teams that I frequently lose to when I play random team, and have I EVER ONCE claimed that they are stream cheating? NO. I rage about losing, sure but who doesn't? I rage about bad allies when I play RANDOM TEAM.

For the people who actually watch my stream on a daily bases, whenever I'm in a Skype call with chris, whenever we lose games the first thing isn't always " Oh, okay they were stream cheating. " Sometimes it is, but that's only when it's blatantly obvious. We go over how we could have won the game, and what we could have done different, or in most cases just MOVE ON TO THE NEXT GAME.

As far as the drama is concerned I've basically shut myself out from the whole " chatting in sc2. " as it brings way too much drama to not only my stream chat, not also TL.net.

So that being said, the stream will without a doubt be 10x more enjoyable than it was originally.



CHOMPMannER
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada175 Posts
November 02 2011 01:28 GMT
#354
LOL protech honestly dude, I've watched your stream enough times to know what your zerg builds were.. It's not rocket science to figure out how to counter your openings. I was never stream cheating, seriously get off it.

And I'm telling you now I will stream cheat vs. you in the future because I'm sick of your bull shit accusations and might as well just do it to piss you off.
http://www.ipstarcraft.com/ --iPCHOMP
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 01:32:07
November 02 2011 01:31 GMT
#355
On November 02 2011 10:28 CHOMPMannER wrote:
LOL protech honestly dude, I've watched your stream enough times to know what your zerg builds were.. It's not rocket science to figure out how to counter your openings. I was never stream cheating, seriously get off it.

And I'm telling you now I will stream cheat vs. you in the future because I'm sick of your bull shit accusations and might as well just do it to piss you off.



Yeah, like that game on monylth ridge where power proxies a starport under your base with a fusion core there, and you just happen to send an SCV scout there? (15mins into game)
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
November 02 2011 01:33 GMT
#356
On November 02 2011 10:28 CHOMPMannER wrote:
LOL protech honestly dude, I've watched your stream enough times to know what your zerg builds were.. It's not rocket science to figure out how to counter your openings. I was never stream cheating, seriously get off it.

And I'm telling you now I will stream cheat vs. you in the future because I'm sick of your bull shit accusations and might as well just do it to piss you off.



Then I have no reason to be upset with you, as long as you admit.
CHOMPMannER
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada175 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 01:40:16
November 02 2011 01:33 GMT
#357
On November 02 2011 10:31 ProTech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 10:28 CHOMPMannER wrote:
LOL protech honestly dude, I've watched your stream enough times to know what your zerg builds were.. It's not rocket science to figure out how to counter your openings. I was never stream cheating, seriously get off it.

And I'm telling you now I will stream cheat vs. you in the future because I'm sick of your bull shit accusations and might as well just do it to piss you off.



Yeah, like that game on monylth ridge where power proxies a starport under your base with a fusion core there, and you just happen to send an SCV scout there?



Ok first of all let me explain something to you. I am a Terran player... Your ally was Terran

I got an scv in your Terran ally's base he had a factory and a barracks with no add ons around 8 minutes.... hmmm I was makin banshees that game so i immediately came to the thought of Proxy Starport?

want to know why? Because 1 rax marine and 1 factory hellion would make no sense at that stage of the game.

Your proof is not proof, maybe you should learn your timings and look @ the facts in front of you LOL

I suggest you watch the replay from my POV rather than just jumping the gun and not looking @ facts:
http://drop.sc/9987

thanks
http://www.ipstarcraft.com/ --iPCHOMP
hitthebong
Profile Joined November 2011
United States6 Posts
November 02 2011 01:35 GMT
#358
On November 02 2011 10:28 CHOMPMannER wrote:
LOL protech honestly dude, I've watched your stream enough times to know what your zerg builds were.. It's not rocket science to figure out how to counter your openings. I was never stream cheating, seriously get off it.

And I'm telling you now I will stream cheat vs. you in the future because I'm sick of your bull shit accusations and might as well just do it to piss you off.



Mannerchomp, this quote from the kid who was calling me out on my "maturity level"?


hahahha, you're so pathetic. :D
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hipsterHobbit
Profile Joined September 2011
United States218 Posts
November 02 2011 01:35 GMT
#359
On November 02 2011 10:25 ProTech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 10:21 CHOMPMannER wrote:
And people wonder why I team killed him?

He accused me of stream cheating and hacking he deserved it

Kid doesnt understand that he only has a few bad builds.. And if you survive vs Protech in the first 8 minutes, you win.




And for the record people have witnessed me lose games to players such as:

Gatored / Geno
mystik / illusive
getslamt / trb
Azide / SuperNinja

Those are the teams that I frequently lose to when I play random team, and have I EVER ONCE claimed that they are stream cheating? NO. I rage about losing, sure but who doesn't? I rage about bad allies when I play RANDOM TEAM.






Why, that is the most humble thing I've ever heard you say.

Now practice this one.

I lost that game for my team because my strategy didn't do enough damage.

Now that would be enjoyable.
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
November 02 2011 01:52 GMT
#360
On November 02 2011 10:35 hipsterHobbit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 10:25 ProTech wrote:
On November 02 2011 10:21 CHOMPMannER wrote:
And people wonder why I team killed him?

He accused me of stream cheating and hacking he deserved it

Kid doesnt understand that he only has a few bad builds.. And if you survive vs Protech in the first 8 minutes, you win.




And for the record people have witnessed me lose games to players such as:

Gatored / Geno
mystik / illusive
getslamt / trb
Azide / SuperNinja

Those are the teams that I frequently lose to when I play random team, and have I EVER ONCE claimed that they are stream cheating? NO. I rage about losing, sure but who doesn't? I rage about bad allies when I play RANDOM TEAM.






Why, that is the most humble thing I've ever heard you say.

Now practice this one.

I lost that game for my team because my strategy didn't do enough damage.

Now that would be enjoyable.



Again, if you watch my stream on a daily basis you would know that if the game was my fault, then I take the blame.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9641 Posts
November 02 2011 01:56 GMT
#361
Wheres a mod when you need them.

You guys realize that its protechs stream and therefore can talk about whatever the hell he want on his stream and do what he wants in it. If you dont like it dont watch.

To all those saying protech should be defatured because he say a few remarks or racist stuff is hurting the 2v2 "esports"
come on hes one guy. I doubt anyone would stop watching 2v2 torunament or refuse to watch a stream just because of something protech said (if anything it would probally attract viewers)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Fleebenworth
Profile Joined April 2011
463 Posts
November 02 2011 02:03 GMT
#362
On November 02 2011 10:56 Darkdeath3 wrote:
To all those saying protech should be defatured because he say a few remarks or racist stuff is hurting the 2v2 "esports"
come on hes one guy. I doubt anyone would stop watching 2v2 torunament or refuse to watch a stream just because of something protech said (if anything it would probally attract viewers)


Strawman? People are just rightfully pointing out that protech makes a lot of accusations about people maphacking,etc. without much evidence than OMG HOW COULD YOU KNOW WHAT I AM DOING EVEN THOUGH I ONLY HAVE A FEW BUILDS THAT I RECYCLE AD NAUSEUM
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9641 Posts
November 02 2011 02:07 GMT
#363
On November 02 2011 11:03 Fleebenworth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 10:56 Darkdeath3 wrote:
To all those saying protech should be defatured because he say a few remarks or racist stuff is hurting the 2v2 "esports"
come on hes one guy. I doubt anyone would stop watching 2v2 torunament or refuse to watch a stream just because of something protech said (if anything it would probally attract viewers)


Strawman? People are just rightfully pointing out that protech makes a lot of accusations about people maphacking,etc. without much evidence than OMG HOW COULD YOU KNOW WHAT I AM DOING EVEN THOUGH I ONLY HAVE A FEW BUILDS THAT I RECYCLE AD NAUSEUM

My point is why do you care
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Fleebenworth
Profile Joined April 2011
463 Posts
November 02 2011 02:22 GMT
#364
On November 02 2011 11:07 Darkdeath3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 11:03 Fleebenworth wrote:
On November 02 2011 10:56 Darkdeath3 wrote:
To all those saying protech should be defatured because he say a few remarks or racist stuff is hurting the 2v2 "esports"
come on hes one guy. I doubt anyone would stop watching 2v2 torunament or refuse to watch a stream just because of something protech said (if anything it would probally attract viewers)


Strawman? People are just rightfully pointing out that protech makes a lot of accusations about people maphacking,etc. without much evidence than OMG HOW COULD YOU KNOW WHAT I AM DOING EVEN THOUGH I ONLY HAVE A FEW BUILDS THAT I RECYCLE AD NAUSEUM

My point is why do you care

Why care about anything?
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
November 02 2011 02:24 GMT
#365
On November 02 2011 11:03 Fleebenworth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 10:56 Darkdeath3 wrote:
To all those saying protech should be defatured because he say a few remarks or racist stuff is hurting the 2v2 "esports"
come on hes one guy. I doubt anyone would stop watching 2v2 torunament or refuse to watch a stream just because of something protech said (if anything it would probally attract viewers)


Strawman? People are just rightfully pointing out that protech makes a lot of accusations about people maphacking,etc. without much evidence than OMG HOW COULD YOU KNOW WHAT I AM DOING EVEN THOUGH I ONLY HAVE A FEW BUILDS THAT I RECYCLE AD NAUSEUM



I would venture to say that, in most cases, people come on the stream for about say.... 15 seconds, and hear me ranting about it.

Whenever I actually feel like i've been stream cheated I go into the replay and give a good explanation. And as of late, BECAUSE IM PLAYING RANDOM, it's been more and more fishy in a lot of cases.

And in most cases people don't even bother to scout my base and put together correct unit comps.

Again, I don't go around falsely accusing people. There have been MANY cases where I open a replay and in the first 2 mins I'll be like " Ok, this shows nothing, I was wrong. "
mangoloid
Profile Joined September 2010
100 Posts
November 02 2011 02:30 GMT
#366
oh dramaz.

I hope they re-feature protech's stream eventually. He's kind of a jerk, like most people say, (but, as he's tried to prove in this thread drama, he is not a total bitch like the true BM queens of the ladder) but there are not many other high-level 2v2 players who stream as consistently as he does. I like 2v2 a lot, and protech's style is aggressive/fun, so I find myself watching it quite often.

Since protech will probably read this: I mean absolutely no disrespect when I say this, but if you were to begin acting more mature/professional about your playing, you could easily gain more respect in this community and find yourself making a better living off of SC2. As a high-level 2v2 player, you are in a position to contribute a lot more to the community aside from your stream. Competitive 2v2s have been trying to gain a foothold of late, and though there have been moderate successes, it has yet to get the boost it really needs. I think there's certainly an audience. If you were to start providing analysis, replays, strategies, and/or were to help organize 2v2 tournys, you would be helping both the community and yourself. I don't know if it's really in your personality to actually put in this work and interact with people, but if you're are serious about your future playing SC, it's something to consider.
insomdapowahouz
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada58 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 02:58:30
November 02 2011 02:44 GMT
#367
Here's my honest opinion:

It's a 2v2 stream;
It doesn't matter if you're the best 2v2 player in the world (which you claim to be), It's still not interesting.
The games are boring, and usually revolve around 2-3 different possible 1 base all ins each player can be doing.


The fact you rage/accuse people of hacking AT ALL takes away from this further.
I 100% agree that you are very valid in your accusations, and you get cheated a lot seeing as 2v2 is a smaller community. (I remember sorcery from DotA, and I can vouch for what a fucking cunt that kid is)
However, I don't care enough to hear about it.
Turning on the stream to hear that is off-putting, to put it mildly.

there's a place for you, but it's not on the front page of TL
regardless, it's a shitty fucking pill to swallow, and I do feel bad for you, just not enough to sugar coat my post.
JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
November 02 2011 02:59 GMT
#368

Whenever I actually feel like i've been stream cheated I go into the replay and give a good explanation. And as of late, BECAUSE IM PLAYING RANDOM, it's been more and more fishy in a lot of cases.

And in most cases people don't even bother to scout my base and put together correct unit comps.

Again, I don't go around falsely accusing people. There have been MANY cases where I open a replay and in the first 2 mins I'll be like " Ok, this shows nothing, I was wrong. "


Yeah, it might seem fishy, but you also have to understand that even if you're playing random, its not THAT hard to blindly counter what you're doing. Most people are going to expect some sort of cheese or early rush, and if its a "macro" game by your standards, perhaps they just had a superior composition to you.

Also, for everyone saying Protech is the best 2v2 player in the world, he's most definitely not
He's at times the highest rated player in the 2v2 random and arranged team scales, which is an accumulation of many points, not skill. Yes, he has the bare basic mechanics down to carry out certain early game build orders (4gate, 10p, etc) and micro units to some extent, but if you want to compare SC2 mechanics as a while, he is lacking. Just look at the ladder games he played vs SeleCT//Optikzero and how outclassed he (along with tehredbandit I think) was.
You can type "StarCraft" with just your left hand.
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
November 02 2011 03:11 GMT
#369
On November 02 2011 11:59 JerKy wrote:
Show nested quote +

Whenever I actually feel like i've been stream cheated I go into the replay and give a good explanation. And as of late, BECAUSE IM PLAYING RANDOM, it's been more and more fishy in a lot of cases.

And in most cases people don't even bother to scout my base and put together correct unit comps.

Again, I don't go around falsely accusing people. There have been MANY cases where I open a replay and in the first 2 mins I'll be like " Ok, this shows nothing, I was wrong. "


Yeah, it might seem fishy, but you also have to understand that even if you're playing random, its not THAT hard to blindly counter what you're doing. Most people are going to expect some sort of cheese or early rush, and if its a "macro" game by your standards, perhaps they just had a superior composition to you.

Also, for everyone saying Protech is the best 2v2 player in the world, he's most definitely not
He's at times the highest rated player in the 2v2 random and arranged team scales, which is an accumulation of many points, not skill. Yes, he has the bare basic mechanics down to carry out certain early game build orders (4gate, 10p, etc) and micro units to some extent, but if you want to compare SC2 mechanics as a while, he is lacking. Just look at the ladder games he played vs SeleCT//Optikzero and how outclassed he (along with tehredbandit I think) was.



As a ZZ team, yes. The games that I've played against them with power. we are currently up.

2v2 may not be as interesting as 1v1, but there is still a large crowd that is attracted to it.
CHOMPMannER
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada175 Posts
November 02 2011 03:49 GMT
#370
I actually feel bad for Protech right now... I think deep down hes a nice guy, just made some mistakes in the past! <3 porktech
http://www.ipstarcraft.com/ --iPCHOMP
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 05:03:37
November 02 2011 05:01 GMT
#371
interesting note. protech complains about people not listening to his commercials (and says in his stream that he is going to force people to watch commercials), but has ad blocker put on for tl.net. kind of hypocritical?

from his chat:

protech says, PLEASE REMOVE AD BLOCK. I WILL BE MAKING THIS STREAM UN WATCHABLE TO AD BLOCK USERS.
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
November 02 2011 05:25 GMT
#372
On November 02 2011 14:01 dAPhREAk wrote:
interesting note. protech complains about people not listening to his commercials (and says in his stream that he is going to force people to watch commercials), but has ad blocker put on for tl.net. kind of hypocritical?

from his chat:

protech says, PLEASE REMOVE AD BLOCK. I WILL BE MAKING THIS STREAM UN WATCHABLE TO AD BLOCK USERS.



As i've said many tiems on my stream, I use it so that i don't get minimized during games. I never ad block anything, and you can clearly see the advertisments on TL.NET on my stream.
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
November 02 2011 05:39 GMT
#373
what i've taken from all of this is that you have mannerchomp is a lying teamkiller who says he will be a stream cheater

These are the kind of people that hate protech, rofl
hihihi
CHOMPMannER
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada175 Posts
November 02 2011 05:45 GMT
#374
hate is such a strong word by no means do i hate protech
http://www.ipstarcraft.com/ --iPCHOMP
FILM
Profile Joined September 2010
United States663 Posts
November 02 2011 06:08 GMT
#375
I live vicariously through ProTech's stream. I'd say keep on doing your thing but I'm sure you'll do it anyway.
Artosis:  "It's like Detroit in there."   Tasteless:  "Lots of shootings and damaged buildings."
VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 06:30:49
November 02 2011 06:26 GMT
#376
On November 02 2011 04:08 Makica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 03:15 VashTS wrote:
@Rive: Why you so BM towards ProTech now? Thought you guys were cool. You that mad about losing mod powers in a chat room?
@Gold: Did you actually make an account just to BM somebody in their own streaming topic? Lmfao. How old are you exactly?
@Odien: Wow, really? That's pretty BM of you, son.
@Azide: He's actually not Diamond 1v1, but nice try. Oh wait, no it wasn't.

Edit:
@Makica: You sure are exaggerating a fair bit. He doesn't accuse EVERYBODY of stream cheating. It's the small group of people (like Mannerchomp) that constantly match up with him and do their usual BM/garbage, and "just happen" to do the exact opener that's strong (or the counter) vs the build that he does, regardless of which opener he happens to do without scouting. If he actually DID accuse everybody, he wouldn't have a fanbase at all.

Also, IdrA calls like everybody bad. IdrA complains about abusive strategies. What's your point about that?


I didn't say he accuses everyone of stream cheating. I said he disparages everyone he loses to in different ways.


On November 02 2011 03:07 Makica wrote:
Any team he loses to he accuses of stream cheating, doing some unfair strategy, etc and goes on a tirade about how bad they are.

That's you saying you didn't say x, and then you saying x just previously. =/

On November 02 2011 04:07 Azide wrote:
"idra is a code s player" --> he plays at the Code S level


No... "IdrA is a Code S player" means he's in Code S. "IdrA plays at Code S level" would mean what you said.

On November 02 2011 05:45 ODieN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 05:35 CursedFeanor wrote:
It's really retarded that ProTech was defeatured... It's a slap in the face of everyone who enjoys 2v2. I thought TL was more open-minded, but apparently not.

Defeaturing the (arguably) best 2v2 player in the world is stupid, no matter what you think about him personally.

Anyway I hope you keep streaming ProTech and we'll keep watching!

ProTech making racial slurs is not great for the TL.net community and/or sponsors who come to this website and view "featured streams" as it just makes TL.net look bad as an image due to supporting ProTech by featuring him.
He also abuses his commercial power by running 3-5 at a time back to back, also treys his viewers like shit if they were to say one thing ProTech doesn't agree with, constructive criticism, bm or not. he straight up bans them, no time outs or anything. He deserved to be de-featured.


I bitch him out and call him out on stuff all the time, and I'm not banned. And things that happen in a stream are things that TL is not responsible for. That's why they can't do anything about stream sniping/cheating. And lol @ "abusing commercial power." Seriously?

On November 02 2011 05:53 Rive wrote:
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On November 02 2011 03:15 VashTS wrote:
@Rive: Why you so BM towards ProTech now? Thought you guys were cool. You that mad about losing mod powers in a chat room?
@Gold: Did you actually make an account just to BM somebody in their own streaming topic? Lmfao. How old are you exactly?
@Odien: Wow, really? That's pretty BM of you, son.
@Azide: He's actually not Diamond 1v1, but nice try. Oh wait, no it wasn't.

Edit:
@Makica: You sure are exaggerating a fair bit. He doesn't accuse EVERYBODY of stream cheating. It's the small group of people (like Mannerchomp) that constantly match up with him and do their usual BM/garbage, and "just happen" to do the exact opener that's strong (or the counter) vs the build that he does, regardless of which opener he happens to do without scouting. If he actually DID accuse everybody, he wouldn't have a fanbase at all.

Also, IdrA calls like everybody bad. IdrA complains about abusive strategies. What's your point about that?




No VashTS i am not upset of losing my "MOD" I am annoyed with his constant complaining. He Decides to Report Players for Trolling him, when he did the same exact thing to lower level players! Hypocritical? I think So. The Fact that every good player in the 2v2 scene thinks hes a total douche bag must mean something.


My apologies for the false assumption, then. Not sure about the rest, but I doubt that.

On November 02 2011 05:58 stormchaser wrote:
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On November 02 2011 05:45 ODieN wrote:
On November 02 2011 05:35 CursedFeanor wrote:
It's really retarded that ProTech was defeatured... It's a slap in the face of everyone who enjoys 2v2. I thought TL was more open-minded, but apparently not.

Defeaturing the (arguably) best 2v2 player in the world is stupid, no matter what you think about him personally.

Anyway I hope you keep streaming ProTech and we'll keep watching!

ProTech making racial slurs is not great for the TL.net community and/or sponsors who come to this website and view "featured streams" as it just makes TL.net look bad as an image due to supporting ProTech by featuring him.
He also abuses his commercial power by running 3-5 at a time back to back, also treys his viewers like shit if they were to say one thing ProTech doesn't agree with, constructive criticism, bm or not. he straight up bans them, no time outs or anything. He deserved to be de-featured.

I think this man said it best. Not to mention, I don't remember him ever getting over 100 viewers, why feature a stream that isn't generally popular?


This a joke post?

On November 02 2011 06:46 GoldRogers wrote:
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On November 02 2011 05:35 CursedFeanor wrote:
It's really retarded that ProTech was defeatured... It's a slap in the face of everyone who enjoys 2v2. I thought TL was more open-minded, but apparently not.

Defeaturing the (arguably) best 2v2 player in the world is stupid, no matter what you think about him personally.

Anyway I hope you keep streaming ProTech and we'll keep watching!


This guy is obviously trolling, calling someone who only knows how to 4 gate as toss, the best 2v2 player in the world is rediculous. All of his arranged teammates are GM's or former GM's which is the only reason he won the PTSL. Power/destructive, tehredbandit, has a higher score than him 90% of the games (carrying). This bitter immature person only knows how to all in and he does it very well, but that doesn't qualify him to be the "best" 2v2 player. There is a reason Team Wizards got picked up by fnatic and protech is teamless. When you try to troll, at least make it less obvious.

Your argument is "rediculous" son.

On November 02 2011 09:51 CHOMPMannER wrote:
ur saying hes so mad SO mad and tell him to grow up? lolol

Just goes to show the maturity level of Protechs stream fan boys


You are your friends are pretty good at making generalizations.

On November 02 2011 09:51 sunman1g wrote:
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On November 02 2011 09:23 hitthebong wrote:
On November 02 2011 09:22 sunman1g wrote:
the only time I watched protech was insanely BM and I never watched him again.
I do not think someone like that should be featured



Lol, then with that argument, Destiny shouldnt be featured either.

oh wait...he's..... still ..... there ..... ?


if you watched destiny you knew that he jokes a lot.
he would never say a racial slur and if he said it he would make it as a joke.

protech clearly used racial slur in a serious situation and he did not mean to make a funny joke or anything.


the only time I watched destiny was insanely BM and I never watched him again.
I do not think someone like that should be featured


if you watched protech you knew that he jokes a lot.
he would never say a racial slur and if he said it he would make it as a joke.

destiny clearly used racial slur in a serious situation and he did not mean to make a funny joke or anything.




@Rive: Sorry about my assumption about the mod thing, btw.
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Profile Joined November 2009
United States2904 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 06:56:37
November 02 2011 06:56 GMT
#377
On November 02 2011 15:26 VashTS wrote:
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On November 02 2011 04:08 Makica wrote:
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On November 02 2011 03:15 VashTS wrote:
@Rive: Why you so BM towards ProTech now? Thought you guys were cool. You that mad about losing mod powers in a chat room?
@Gold: Did you actually make an account just to BM somebody in their own streaming topic? Lmfao. How old are you exactly?
@Odien: Wow, really? That's pretty BM of you, son.
@Azide: He's actually not Diamond 1v1, but nice try. Oh wait, no it wasn't.

Edit:
@Makica: You sure are exaggerating a fair bit. He doesn't accuse EVERYBODY of stream cheating. It's the small group of people (like Mannerchomp) that constantly match up with him and do their usual BM/garbage, and "just happen" to do the exact opener that's strong (or the counter) vs the build that he does, regardless of which opener he happens to do without scouting. If he actually DID accuse everybody, he wouldn't have a fanbase at all.

Also, IdrA calls like everybody bad. IdrA complains about abusive strategies. What's your point about that?


I didn't say he accuses everyone of stream cheating. I said he disparages everyone he loses to in different ways.


On November 02 2011 03:07 Makica wrote:
Any team he loses to he accuses of stream cheating, doing some unfair strategy, etc and goes on a tirade about how bad they are.

That's you saying you didn't say x, and then you saying x just previously. =/

On November 02 2011 04:07 Azide wrote:
"idra is a code s player" --> he plays at the Code S level


No... "IdrA is a Code S player" means he's in Code S. "IdrA plays at Code S level" would mean what you said.

On November 02 2011 05:45 ODieN wrote:
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On November 02 2011 05:35 CursedFeanor wrote:
It's really retarded that ProTech was defeatured... It's a slap in the face of everyone who enjoys 2v2. I thought TL was more open-minded, but apparently not.

Defeaturing the (arguably) best 2v2 player in the world is stupid, no matter what you think about him personally.

Anyway I hope you keep streaming ProTech and we'll keep watching!

ProTech making racial slurs is not great for the TL.net community and/or sponsors who come to this website and view "featured streams" as it just makes TL.net look bad as an image due to supporting ProTech by featuring him.
He also abuses his commercial power by running 3-5 at a time back to back, also treys his viewers like shit if they were to say one thing ProTech doesn't agree with, constructive criticism, bm or not. he straight up bans them, no time outs or anything. He deserved to be de-featured.


I bitch him out and call him out on stuff all the time, and I'm not banned. And things that happen in a stream are things that TL is not responsible for. That's why they can't do anything about stream sniping/cheating. And lol @ "abusing commercial power." Seriously?

On November 02 2011 05:53 Rive wrote:
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On November 02 2011 03:15 VashTS wrote:
@Rive: Why you so BM towards ProTech now? Thought you guys were cool. You that mad about losing mod powers in a chat room?
@Gold: Did you actually make an account just to BM somebody in their own streaming topic? Lmfao. How old are you exactly?
@Odien: Wow, really? That's pretty BM of you, son.
@Azide: He's actually not Diamond 1v1, but nice try. Oh wait, no it wasn't.

Edit:
@Makica: You sure are exaggerating a fair bit. He doesn't accuse EVERYBODY of stream cheating. It's the small group of people (like Mannerchomp) that constantly match up with him and do their usual BM/garbage, and "just happen" to do the exact opener that's strong (or the counter) vs the build that he does, regardless of which opener he happens to do without scouting. If he actually DID accuse everybody, he wouldn't have a fanbase at all.

Also, IdrA calls like everybody bad. IdrA complains about abusive strategies. What's your point about that?




No VashTS i am not upset of losing my "MOD" I am annoyed with his constant complaining. He Decides to Report Players for Trolling him, when he did the same exact thing to lower level players! Hypocritical? I think So. The Fact that every good player in the 2v2 scene thinks hes a total douche bag must mean something.


My apologies for the false assumption, then. Not sure about the rest, but I doubt that.

On November 02 2011 05:58 stormchaser wrote:
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On November 02 2011 05:45 ODieN wrote:
On November 02 2011 05:35 CursedFeanor wrote:
It's really retarded that ProTech was defeatured... It's a slap in the face of everyone who enjoys 2v2. I thought TL was more open-minded, but apparently not.

Defeaturing the (arguably) best 2v2 player in the world is stupid, no matter what you think about him personally.

Anyway I hope you keep streaming ProTech and we'll keep watching!

ProTech making racial slurs is not great for the TL.net community and/or sponsors who come to this website and view "featured streams" as it just makes TL.net look bad as an image due to supporting ProTech by featuring him.
He also abuses his commercial power by running 3-5 at a time back to back, also treys his viewers like shit if they were to say one thing ProTech doesn't agree with, constructive criticism, bm or not. he straight up bans them, no time outs or anything. He deserved to be de-featured.

I think this man said it best. Not to mention, I don't remember him ever getting over 100 viewers, why feature a stream that isn't generally popular?


This a joke post?

On November 02 2011 06:46 GoldRogers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 05:35 CursedFeanor wrote:
It's really retarded that ProTech was defeatured... It's a slap in the face of everyone who enjoys 2v2. I thought TL was more open-minded, but apparently not.

Defeaturing the (arguably) best 2v2 player in the world is stupid, no matter what you think about him personally.

Anyway I hope you keep streaming ProTech and we'll keep watching!


This guy is obviously trolling, calling someone who only knows how to 4 gate as toss, the best 2v2 player in the world is rediculous. All of his arranged teammates are GM's or former GM's which is the only reason he won the PTSL. Power/destructive, tehredbandit, has a higher score than him 90% of the games (carrying). This bitter immature person only knows how to all in and he does it very well, but that doesn't qualify him to be the "best" 2v2 player. There is a reason Team Wizards got picked up by fnatic and protech is teamless. When you try to troll, at least make it less obvious.

Your argument is "rediculous" son.

On November 02 2011 09:51 CHOMPMannER wrote:
ur saying hes so mad SO mad and tell him to grow up? lolol

Just goes to show the maturity level of Protechs stream fan boys


You are your friends are pretty good at making generalizations.

On November 02 2011 09:51 sunman1g wrote:
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On November 02 2011 09:23 hitthebong wrote:
On November 02 2011 09:22 sunman1g wrote:
the only time I watched protech was insanely BM and I never watched him again.
I do not think someone like that should be featured



Lol, then with that argument, Destiny shouldnt be featured either.

oh wait...he's..... still ..... there ..... ?


if you watched destiny you knew that he jokes a lot.
he would never say a racial slur and if he said it he would make it as a joke.

protech clearly used racial slur in a serious situation and he did not mean to make a funny joke or anything.


the only time I watched destiny was insanely BM and I never watched him again.
I do not think someone like that should be featured


if you watched protech you knew that he jokes a lot.
he would never say a racial slur and if he said it he would make it as a joke.

destiny clearly used racial slur in a serious situation and he did not mean to make a funny joke or anything.




@Rive: Sorry about my assumption about the mod thing, btw.

Yes, really.
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askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 07:09:45
November 02 2011 07:07 GMT
#378
i think the most annoying part about all of this is that I know how a lot of you actually are rude and deserve bans just from modding the stream for last 8 months and then seeing the polar opposite behavior on teamliquid, because you're really touting that whole maturity banner here.

schizophrenic
hihihi
CHOMPMannER
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada175 Posts
November 02 2011 07:13 GMT
#379
LOL Teivo notice how only today Protech started saying GL HF and GG in his games? And how now hes expklaining why he loses rather than saying " BAD ALLY FUCK "

but i wouldnt expect you to notice that
http://www.ipstarcraft.com/ --iPCHOMP
Azide
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada566 Posts
November 02 2011 07:33 GMT
#380
lol that's pretty funny, but its a good start. good to see
Azide and SuperNinja - Best Double Protoss 2v2 Team!
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 07:53:46
November 02 2011 07:49 GMT
#381
On November 02 2011 16:13 CHOMPMannER wrote:
LOL Teivo notice how only today Protech started saying GL HF and GG in his games? And how now hes expklaining why he loses rather than saying " BAD ALLY FUCK "

but i wouldnt expect you to notice that


are you retarded? I've seen him say gl hf / gg in practically all his tournament games and every 1v1 game he's played. He says BAD ALLY FUCK because its the truth /rolleyes. Apparently though thats rude and no one respects anyone that tells it as it is. On the internet we all drink tea, eat caviar and wear monocles don't we. SC2 is high sociETY. Rofl so dumb.

Anyways from what I've seen that majority of top level 2v2'rs are literally retarded and way more bad manner than protech. They just get away with it because no one knows who they are. You're also not only mad at protech, you're obsessed with him as far as I am concerned. Notice how you acted all holier than thou with your teamkilling accusations and then came back and admitted to teamkilling. Notice the whole facebook group you and that ugly asian kid who wears a dress made to BM protech?

Dood, y u so obsessed? Rofl you spew so much bullshit that anyone with any sense wouldn't have to have watched your games to know that you're 100% stream cheater

PS stealing empty beer kegs to make ends meet like you do is much much more degrading than working at mcdonalds


PS Azide, go support hacker sorcery + vitamin team more you gr8 example of a 2v2'r

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=252666&currentpage=18#357
hihihi
VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
November 02 2011 08:36 GMT
#382
On November 02 2011 16:13 CHOMPMannER wrote:
LOL Teivo notice how only today Protech started saying GL HF and GG in his games? And how now hes expklaining why he loses rather than saying " BAD ALLY FUCK "

but i wouldnt expect you to notice that

Almost as serious as "FUCK DOG ON FIRE" or "TAKING GRANDMA TO THE ICE CREAM STORE"

mirite?
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CHOMPMannER
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada175 Posts
November 02 2011 08:44 GMT
#383
lol @ teivos attempts to defend protech
http://www.ipstarcraft.com/ --iPCHOMP
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
November 02 2011 09:13 GMT
#384
soz you can't make rent this month because i tipped off the brewery ;(
hihihi
CHOMPMannER
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada175 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 09:20:48
November 02 2011 09:20 GMT
#385
I have no clue what you are talking about lmao

funny at your attempt to try and attack my personal life though i'll remember that next time there is a local event
http://www.ipstarcraft.com/ --iPCHOMP
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 10:02:36
November 02 2011 09:57 GMT
#386
On November 02 2011 18:20 CHOMPMannER wrote:
I have no clue what you are talking about lmao

funny at your attempt to try and attack my personal life though i'll remember that next time there is a local event


:D e z
hihihi
NrT.RuSH
Profile Joined September 2007
Germany214 Posts
November 02 2011 11:24 GMT
#387
Hes still a good player featured or de-featured. I argued to get him featured because i thought he deserved it. Recently i dont think me and him are good friends anymore due to the fact i allied sorcery and stuck up for my friends on "Team Wizard". Still none the less, he is a top 2v2 player and has a fan base. I dont really think his stream being de-featured will ruin anything for him.
To Protech: Be more professional and treat your fans right. Its your job so take it serious. You are a good player and you need to represent yourself as a top player. Also you should be looking to join a team as its more stability for you and even more income possiblity. SC2 wont last forever so make the best out of it. I practice hard to get better and you know with the military time is rough. Anyway GL man.
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ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 12:24:52
November 02 2011 12:24 GMT
#388
On November 02 2011 11:44 insomdapowahouz wrote:
Here's my honest opinion:

It's a 2v2 stream;
It doesn't matter if you're the best 2v2 player in the world (which you claim to be), It's still not interesting.
The games are boring, and usually revolve around 2-3 different possible 1 base all ins each player can be doing.


The fact you rage/accuse people of hacking AT ALL takes away from this further.
I 100% agree that you are very valid in your accusations, and you get cheated a lot seeing as 2v2 is a smaller community. (I remember sorcery from DotA, and I can vouch for what a fucking cunt that kid is)
However, I don't care enough to hear about it.
Turning on the stream to hear that is off-putting, to put it mildly.

there's a place for you, but it's not on the front page of TL
regardless, it's a shitty fucking pill to swallow, and I do feel bad for you, just not enough to sugar coat my post.




First of all I never claimed once that I'm the best 2v2 player in the world. The only thing that I've ever said that's anywhere near that statement is on my stream title which is: " #1 >>RANKED<< 2v2 RANDOM TEAM player globally. And that's not a lie, you can check sc2ranks.com as far as that is concerned.

2v2 doesn't revolve around 1 base all ins, and if you watched the stream on a consistent basis you would know that probably 60% of the high level 2v2 master games all revolve around macro as 1 base play does not generally work on skilled players. If the games are boring, then that is your opinion and you are entitled to it.

You may not care enough to hear about it, but alot of my viewers want to hear about my thought process in those kinds of situation, in fact I would say 80% of them enjoy it, rage and all.

Sure, there's a place for me on TL.net, and im going to do everything I can to get that back, for my own sake, and for the 2v2 scene's sake.
CHOMPMannER
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada175 Posts
November 02 2011 13:23 GMT
#389
the 2v2 scene hates you unfortunately
http://www.ipstarcraft.com/ --iPCHOMP
hipsterHobbit
Profile Joined September 2011
United States218 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 16:36:01
November 02 2011 16:25 GMT
#390
On November 02 2011 21:24 ProTech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 11:44 insomdapowahouz wrote:
Here's my honest opinion:

It's a 2v2 stream;
It doesn't matter if you're the best 2v2 player in the world (which you claim to be), It's still not interesting.
The games are boring, and usually revolve around 2-3 different possible 1 base all ins each player can be doing.


The fact you rage/accuse people of hacking AT ALL takes away from this further.
I 100% agree that you are very valid in your accusations, and you get cheated a lot seeing as 2v2 is a smaller community. (I remember sorcery from DotA, and I can vouch for what a fucking cunt that kid is)
However, I don't care enough to hear about it.
Turning on the stream to hear that is off-putting, to put it mildly.

there's a place for you, but it's not on the front page of TL
regardless, it's a shitty fucking pill to swallow, and I do feel bad for you, just not enough to sugar coat my post.



and for the 2v2 scene's sake.


LOL HAHAH WTF?

like you give a rat's ass about the 2v2 scene while you're constantly trashing all but 5 players in the scene on your stream

I've tried to remain civil thus far, alas.

Remember when you lost to 1 base immortal void ray(you wouldn't have lost of course if the protoss didn't play like a "retard")? Did you ever stop to think maybe you got de-featured because you are just a horrible player?

The blaming your allies and parading yourself as some gosu is just a punch-line to the play you exhibit where you NEVER scout and try to use builds like:

14 command center
14 barracks
14 barracks
14 barracks
14 orbital
14 orbital

Seriously, scouting is the most important thing in this game. and you simply don't do it. I'd have you de-featured for that reason alone.

"the 2v2 scene's sake" would be a lot better off with your exposure kept to a minimum.

edit: and I see that it will be. Thank you TL. My work here is done.
VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
November 02 2011 17:24 GMT
#391
On November 03 2011 01:25 hipsterHobbit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 21:24 ProTech wrote:
On November 02 2011 11:44 insomdapowahouz wrote:
Here's my honest opinion:

It's a 2v2 stream;
It doesn't matter if you're the best 2v2 player in the world (which you claim to be), It's still not interesting.
The games are boring, and usually revolve around 2-3 different possible 1 base all ins each player can be doing.


The fact you rage/accuse people of hacking AT ALL takes away from this further.
I 100% agree that you are very valid in your accusations, and you get cheated a lot seeing as 2v2 is a smaller community. (I remember sorcery from DotA, and I can vouch for what a fucking cunt that kid is)
However, I don't care enough to hear about it.
Turning on the stream to hear that is off-putting, to put it mildly.

there's a place for you, but it's not on the front page of TL
regardless, it's a shitty fucking pill to swallow, and I do feel bad for you, just not enough to sugar coat my post.



and for the 2v2 scene's sake.


LOL HAHAH WTF?

like you give a rat's ass about the 2v2 scene while you're constantly trashing all but 5 players in the scene on your stream

I've tried to remain civil thus far, alas.

Remember when you lost to 1 base immortal void ray(you wouldn't have lost of course if the protoss didn't play like a "retard")? Did you ever stop to think maybe you got de-featured because you are just a horrible player?

The blaming your allies and parading yourself as some gosu is just a punch-line to the play you exhibit where you NEVER scout and try to use builds like:

14 command center
14 barracks
14 barracks
14 barracks
14 orbital
14 orbital

Seriously, scouting is the most important thing in this game. and you simply don't do it. I'd have you de-featured for that reason alone.

"the 2v2 scene's sake" would be a lot better off with your exposure kept to a minimum.

edit: and I see that it will be. Thank you TL. My work here is done.

Proof?


And what do you guys think about this? (even the trolls since you'll post anyway):

On November 02 2011 15:23 VashTS wrote:
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On November 02 2011 15:17 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Regarding ProTechs stream:

The numbers ProTech pulls are not sufficient enough for us to justify a featured stream. When it comes to making exceptions for streamers with low numbers we look at contribution, notoriety and results which are all lacking from ProTech.

Added to this we have received a lot of complaints regarding his behavior. When it comes to making exceptions we would rather err on the side of caution and not feature a stream that gets so many complaints.

All those complaints come from like 4 people who repeatedly post the same thing in 2-3 different topics. Hell, they even go as far as to nonstop trash his User Stream thread constantly just for the sake of trashing/trolling, which puts off a lot of people. (would love to see it modded, tbh)

As far as results, there's been 2 major 2v2 Tournaments, of which he has won half/one of them, so I'd say that's fairly significant. There's the z33k weekly, but that's a monetary issue afaik.

2v2 doesn't get near the amount of exposure of 1v1, so pulling 300+ people almost all day every day is pretty high, which is about as much as the z33k weekly gets.
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tehredbanditt
Profile Joined July 2010
103 Posts
November 02 2011 17:55 GMT
#392
Protech was featured for a reason and defeatured for a reason. I hope teamliquid told him why so that he can work on it and get the featured spot back again. As for the haters in here, the little ammount of exposure that you do get in this game, that you spend SO much time playing, is courtesy of protech. When was the last time you kids did anything of note on this game besides getting on protech nerves every once in a while? Ever get featured stream on tl.net? Ever win a tourney with sponsored, pro players and a purse of over 500 dollars? Ever have a stream that hit over 900 viewers because they just wanted to watch you play? You've gotten more well known through his rantings then you ever would have otherwise.

My opinion aside, this was a blow to the 2v2 scene. His stream posted more viewers then the weekly 2v2 tourney for christ sakes (which is very well run and has a couple of great casters and decent games most of the time).
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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
November 02 2011 18:05 GMT
#393
On November 03 2011 02:24 VashTS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 01:25 hipsterHobbit wrote:
On November 02 2011 21:24 ProTech wrote:
On November 02 2011 11:44 insomdapowahouz wrote:
Here's my honest opinion:

It's a 2v2 stream;
It doesn't matter if you're the best 2v2 player in the world (which you claim to be), It's still not interesting.
The games are boring, and usually revolve around 2-3 different possible 1 base all ins each player can be doing.


The fact you rage/accuse people of hacking AT ALL takes away from this further.
I 100% agree that you are very valid in your accusations, and you get cheated a lot seeing as 2v2 is a smaller community. (I remember sorcery from DotA, and I can vouch for what a fucking cunt that kid is)
However, I don't care enough to hear about it.
Turning on the stream to hear that is off-putting, to put it mildly.

there's a place for you, but it's not on the front page of TL
regardless, it's a shitty fucking pill to swallow, and I do feel bad for you, just not enough to sugar coat my post.



and for the 2v2 scene's sake.


LOL HAHAH WTF?

like you give a rat's ass about the 2v2 scene while you're constantly trashing all but 5 players in the scene on your stream

I've tried to remain civil thus far, alas.

Remember when you lost to 1 base immortal void ray(you wouldn't have lost of course if the protoss didn't play like a "retard")? Did you ever stop to think maybe you got de-featured because you are just a horrible player?

The blaming your allies and parading yourself as some gosu is just a punch-line to the play you exhibit where you NEVER scout and try to use builds like:

14 command center
14 barracks
14 barracks
14 barracks
14 orbital
14 orbital

Seriously, scouting is the most important thing in this game. and you simply don't do it. I'd have you de-featured for that reason alone.

"the 2v2 scene's sake" would be a lot better off with your exposure kept to a minimum.

edit: and I see that it will be. Thank you TL. My work here is done.

Proof?


And what do you guys think about this? (even the trolls since you'll post anyway):

Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 15:23 VashTS wrote:
On November 02 2011 15:17 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Regarding ProTechs stream:

The numbers ProTech pulls are not sufficient enough for us to justify a featured stream. When it comes to making exceptions for streamers with low numbers we look at contribution, notoriety and results which are all lacking from ProTech.

Added to this we have received a lot of complaints regarding his behavior. When it comes to making exceptions we would rather err on the side of caution and not feature a stream that gets so many complaints.

All those complaints come from like 4 people who repeatedly post the same thing in 2-3 different topics. Hell, they even go as far as to nonstop trash his User Stream thread constantly just for the sake of trashing/trolling, which puts off a lot of people. (would love to see it modded, tbh)

As far as results, there's been 2 major 2v2 Tournaments, of which he has won half/one of them, so I'd say that's fairly significant. There's the z33k weekly, but that's a monetary issue afaik.

2v2 doesn't get near the amount of exposure of 1v1, so pulling 300+ people almost all day every day is pretty high, which is about as much as the z33k weekly gets.

I think you have to consider the fact that people may complain about protech in private as well (i.e., pms). there are some very vocal "trolls" as you call them in this thread, but that doesn't mean many others havent complained in private. i recall a state of the game where protech was mentioned as well, and not in a complimenting manner. on one of the other threads, protech apparently incurred the wrath of a former mod of tl.net (insane). i am sure that does not bode well for his case considering insane probably has the private ear of most of the mods who make decisions as to who to feature and not to feature.

honestly, its a shame that there are no 2v2 streams to watch. i watched a bit of protech yesterday and he seems to have drastically improved the way he treated people (opponents, his allies and stream watchers). if he keeps it up, i would have no objection to him being featured--although i recognize his recently found manner is probably a ploy to get re-featured. he was an asshole when i first met him online, but if he ceases being an asshole (as I saw a bit of yesterday) then maybe he deserves a features spot. karma is a bitch though. he pissed off a lot of people and now they are going after him (the so called trolls).
CHOMPMannER
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada175 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 18:31:12
November 02 2011 18:23 GMT
#394
On November 03 2011 02:55 tehredbanditt wrote:
Protech was featured for a reason and defeatured for a reason. I hope teamliquid told him why so that he can work on it and get the featured spot back again. As for the haters in here, the little ammount of exposure that you do get in this game, that you spend SO much time playing, is courtesy of protech. When was the last time you kids did anything of note on this game besides getting on protech nerves every once in a while? Ever get featured stream on tl.net? Ever win a tourney with sponsored, pro players and a purse of over 500 dollars? Ever have a stream that hit over 900 viewers because they just wanted to watch you play? You've gotten more well known through his rantings then you ever would have otherwise.

My opinion aside, this was a blow to the 2v2 scene. His stream posted more viewers then the weekly 2v2 tourney for christ sakes (which is very well run and has a couple of great casters and decent games most of the time).


Won more tournaments than you would ever believe
http://www.ipstarcraft.com/ --iPCHOMP
Mythito
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada230 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 18:52:28
November 02 2011 18:49 GMT
#395
On November 03 2011 03:23 CHOMPMannER wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 02:55 tehredbanditt wrote:
Protech was featured for a reason and defeatured for a reason. I hope teamliquid told him why so that he can work on it and get the featured spot back again. As for the haters in here, the little ammount of exposure that you do get in this game, that you spend SO much time playing, is courtesy of protech. When was the last time you kids did anything of note on this game besides getting on protech nerves every once in a while? Ever get featured stream on tl.net? Ever win a tourney with sponsored, pro players and a purse of over 500 dollars? Ever have a stream that hit over 900 viewers because they just wanted to watch you play? You've gotten more well known through his rantings then you ever would have otherwise.

My opinion aside, this was a blow to the 2v2 scene. His stream posted more viewers then the weekly 2v2 tourney for christ sakes (which is very well run and has a couple of great casters and decent games most of the time).


Won more tournaments than you would ever believe



..... one? because one is more than i would ever believe for you


also, congrats on being in a broken grandmaster league;
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=281608
Did everything just taste purple for a second?
CHOMPMannER
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada175 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 19:00:21
November 02 2011 18:53 GMT
#396
lol thanks, im pretty sure im here to stay though

You'd really like to see the tournaments I've won... Basically I competed in WCG Canada twice and won my regional qualifier and I flew to Toronto for the grand finals.

I've won numerous local events over the years.

Basically all the tournaments I won gave me the exposure to get personally e-mailed by a video game developer asking me to balance RTS games... which I did for 4 years.

how about you?

I could open my resume up and list more than 10 easily, but that requires work and most of you are all too naive to take me serious... After all if you watch Protech's stream so im not even going to take any of you serious.

http://www.ipstarcraft.com/ --iPCHOMP
Intolerable
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada1 Post
November 02 2011 18:58 GMT
#397
It is a shame to see ProTech de-featured from TL. I am a long time user of TL (only registered today however), but have been a fan of many streams. ProTech is by far my favorite gamer. He uses world class early game aggression, and has the macro to back-up when it fails to win games. His 2v2 records are something to marvel at as well. He continues to score among the highest in the world in a 2v2 scene that is expanding. Some have argued that he is carried by TQgetslammed or Tehredbandit, but I would have to argue otherwise. They work together as a team incredibly well and consistently put up 85% + winning percentages. ProTech on the random ladder is on par with both of the aforementioned players. So his skill is definitely not in question.

As for his attitude. I consider ProTech a synthesis of Idra and Destiny. He demonstrates poor manners, rages, and calls people out. I do not understand how one can be so heavily offended by his behavior while poster boys like Idra call out top gamers as shit. Destiny has been banned from TL for spamming and has a sailors mouth. ProTech lives for Sc2. He gets mad and calls people out because he likes winning above all else. He isn't hated in the community as someone people suggest, but rather I see at least one person a day be in awe that they were paired with him. ProTech is a major contributor to a lackluster (but growing) 2v2 scene, and he consistently does well while obeying the morals of the game (no stream cheating or hacking). ProTech refuses to play against or with Hackers and he is very vocal about it. He polices suspicious games, and rightly so.

I watched ProTech yesterday after being removed from the featured list and saw a player that was obviously shook. His attitude changed and he was definitely pre-occupied as he play seemed weaker than his regular dominating games. I hope this doesn't change who he is and how he acts. Hopefully there are other 2v2 tournaments that open up that show he is among the best in the world. If not, I hope he continues to stream, not like yesterday, but as a gritty emotional player who loves to win.
GoldRogers
Profile Joined October 2011
19 Posts
November 02 2011 19:04 GMT
#398
On November 03 2011 02:55 tehredbanditt wrote:
Protech was featured for a reason and defeatured for a reason. I hope teamliquid told him why so that he can work on it and get the featured spot back again. As for the haters in here, the little ammount of exposure that you do get in this game, that you spend SO much time playing, is courtesy of protech. When was the last time you kids did anything of note on this game besides getting on protech nerves every once in a while? Ever get featured stream on tl.net? Ever win a tourney with sponsored, pro players and a purse of over 500 dollars? Ever have a stream that hit over 900 viewers because they just wanted to watch you play? You've gotten more well known through his rantings then you ever would have otherwise.

My opinion aside, this was a blow to the 2v2 scene. His stream posted more viewers then the weekly 2v2 tourney for christ sakes (which is very well run and has a couple of great casters and decent games most of the time).


He was obviously carried by his grandmaster partner (destructive). Destructive did many crucial games that on the games (Ie reactor blocks). Protech is a low level masters league player who only knows how to all in. This is common knowledge. He claims that 60% of his games goto "macro - IE 2 base LOL" but thats only after his all in fails. Expanding at 11 minutes does not condone macro. I do agree that we need more 2v2 players to stream but protech is a horrible representation and gives a terrible representation of what a "high ranked 2v2 player" is (all in every game, accuse enemies of hacking/stream cheating, constant bm to anyone that beats him). This was clearly evident earlier in this thread even before he got defeatured. Many people complained of being banned after beating him for no reason other than his little hissy fits.

Protech is a terrible representation of the 2v2 community, he is racist, paranoid of everyone stream cheating, can only cheese, offensive to any 2v2 random partner that he plays with and loses and is extremely ill mannered and immature. There is a need for a high level 2v2 stream, but protech is the absolute worst candidate.
VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 19:12:30
November 02 2011 19:08 GMT
#399
On November 03 2011 03:53 CHOMPMannER wrote:
lI could open my resume up and list more than 10 easily, but that requires work and most of you are all too naive to take me serious... After all if you watch Protech's stream so im not even going to take any of you serious.


So were naive because we would believe your overall act(ions) instead of just 1 post?

Kay.

On November 03 2011 04:04 GoldRogers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 02:55 tehredbanditt wrote:
Protech was featured for a reason and defeatured for a reason. I hope teamliquid told him why so that he can work on it and get the featured spot back again. As for the haters in here, the little ammount of exposure that you do get in this game, that you spend SO much time playing, is courtesy of protech. When was the last time you kids did anything of note on this game besides getting on protech nerves every once in a while? Ever get featured stream on tl.net? Ever win a tourney with sponsored, pro players and a purse of over 500 dollars? Ever have a stream that hit over 900 viewers because they just wanted to watch you play? You've gotten more well known through his rantings then you ever would have otherwise.

My opinion aside, this was a blow to the 2v2 scene. His stream posted more viewers then the weekly 2v2 tourney for christ sakes (which is very well run and has a couple of great casters and decent games most of the time).


He was obviously carried by his grandmaster partner (destructive). Destructive did many crucial games that on the games (Ie reactor blocks). Protech is a low level masters league player who only knows how to all in. This is common knowledge. He claims that 60% of his games goto "macro - IE 2 base LOL" but thats only after his all in fails. Expanding at 11 minutes does not condone macro. I do agree that we need more 2v2 players to stream but protech is a horrible representation and gives a terrible representation of what a "high ranked 2v2 player" is (all in every game, accuse enemies of hacking/stream cheating, constant bm to anyone that beats him). This was clearly evident earlier in this thread even before he got defeatured. Many people complained of being banned after beating him for no reason other than his little hissy fits.

Protech is a terrible representation of the 2v2 community, he is racist, paranoid of everyone stream cheating, can only cheese, offensive to any 2v2 random partner that he plays with and loses and is extremely ill mannered and immature. There is a need for a high level 2v2 stream, but protech is the absolute worst candidate.

You should open your eyes and actually watch some games, rather than make up your own idea of how he plays.

@dAPhREAk: By "comaplin in private" I assume you mean complain to him? I think you have to assume that the opposite is also true. As far as the SotG reference, can you provide a link? I'm very interested in what they had to say. Constructive criticism is always good, so long as you can provide some without being a total ass. =p
VashTS; 330; Random -- Ranked #9 Pokemon Video Game Player in the World in 2009
CHOMPMannER
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada175 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 19:23:47
November 02 2011 19:14 GMT
#400
Compilation of Protech in game BM, this is why he should not be featured
[spoiler]
Game 1
00:07 [All] Catalyst: my ally likes cock all over his face
00:10 [All] MaNNErCHOMP: lol
00:16 [All] Extrovert: i would slam you irl
00:17 [Allies] MaNNErCHOMP: that map lagged me last game
00:20 [All] Catalyst: o rly?
00:21 [Allies] MaNNErCHOMP: sorry
00:24 [All] Catalyst: how much u bench
00:25 [All] Catalyst: son
00:28 [All] Extrovert: fuckin
00:29 [All] Extrovert: slam
00:30 [All] Extrovert: you

00:31 [Allies] Backspace: im rushing
00:36 [All] Catalyst: kid
00:38 [All] Catalyst: i am
00:39 [All] Catalyst: level 3
00:42 [All] Catalyst: military GFT

00:49 [All] Extrovert: again
00:50 [All] Extrovert: i care
00:51 [All] Extrovert: a lot
00:55 [All] Extrovert: please continue
00:55 [All] Catalyst: then
00:56 [All] Catalyst: why
00:58 [All] Catalyst: do you think
01:01 [All] Catalyst: you can slam me
01:02 [All] Catalyst: i would

01:03 [All] Extrovert: please continue talking
01:05 [All] Catalyst: curb stomp your face
01:07 [All] Catalyst: into oblivion
01:08 [All] Catalyst: son

01:09 [All] Extrovert: about things i dont care about
01:20 [All] Extrovert: you're real good at that
01:22 [All] Catalyst: with a name like
01:24 [All] Catalyst: jahre
01:26 [All] Catalyst: i can only imagine
01:32 [All] Catalyst: a skinny nerd

01:44 [All] Extrovert: and i can only imagine you going down on a guy
01:57 [All] Catalyst: do you have
01:58 [All] Catalyst: downs
01:59 [All] Catalyst: jahre?

02:11 [All] Extrovert: haha
02:52 [Allies] MaNNErCHOMP: this suck
04:21 [Allies] Backspace: we kill purple?
04:24 [Allies] MaNNErCHOMP: ok
09:16 [Allies] MaNNErCHOMP: expand

here he is making real life theats

Game 2

16:44 [All] Catalyst: lucky newbns
16:46 [All] Catalyst: fucking bullshit

this happens almost after every single game he plays

Game 3
04:29 [All] haCkProTech: kids probably
04:31 [All] haCkProTech: watching my stream
04:35 [All] haCkProTech: or hacking
05:06 [All] haCkProTech: LOL
05:10 [All] haCkProTech: HE REACTORED
05:12 [All] haCkProTech: HIS SP
05:13 [All] haCkProTech: WTF?
05:51 [All] haCkProTech: ur buddy
05:52 [All] haCkProTech: is cheating
05:55 [All] haCkProTech: one way or another
06:51 [All] haCkProTech: sad geeks
08:09 [All] haCkProTech: u guys are cheating
09:27 [All] haCkProTech: couple of cheating fucks


again this happens after every game he plays

Game 4
05:24 [All] Catalyst: so horrible
05:30 [All] Catalyst: of course u knew where i spawned based on stream cheating
05:31 [All] Catalyst: so


Game 5
00:05 [All] levels: gl
00:14 [All] ArtOfTerran: stfu
00:18 [All] levels: rofl
00:19 [All] levels: u mad?
00:22 [All] ArtOfTerran: yes
00:25 [All] levels: i'd be mad if i lost to backspace too
00:34 [All] levels: i understand =[
00:35 [All] ProTech: only reason it worked is because he stream cheated
00:36 [All] ArtOfTerran: actually because i lost to you
00:36 [All] ProTech: dw
00:45 [All] levels: i didn't cheat
00:48 [All] levels: check rep myapm never drops
00:53 [All] levels: ur just a sore loser
01:28 [All] levels: not like uve neverseen me proxythere before protech xD
01:39 [All] ProTech: im random
01:43 [All] ProTech: you do it only when im random
01:44 [All] levels: so?
01:45 [All] ProTech: and it always works
01:48 [All] ProTech: and im never zerg

01:48 [All] levels: i didn't see creep
01:50 [All] ProTech: so shut the fuck up
01:51 [All] ProTech: nigger head

01:58 [All] levels: woooo anger
02:41 [All] levels: im sending an email to david kim
02:46 [All] levels: since u called me the n word
02:50 [All] ProTech: good
02:54 [All] levels: i am black that is offensive
03:06 [All] ProTech: good
03:11 [All] levels: feel better?
03:17 [All] levels: if it makes u feel better that's ok i guess
03:59 [All] ArtOfTerran: ally playing SOOO WEIRD
04:11 [All] levels: he's horrible dude i woulda felt sorry for u if u weren't so rude
04:29 [All] ArtOfTerran: i just said weird.. not bad
05:50 [All] ArtOfTerran: so cheesy
05:52 [All] ArtOfTerran: u are blue
05:53 [All] levels: so owned
06:40 [All] levels: fast expo
06:42 [All] levels: win 1v2
06:45 [All] levels: ez
08:36 [Allies] levels: can i get some props for thatdefense?
09:57 [Allies] levels: nice scouting
10:03 [Allies] levels: b
11:06 [Allies] levels: he loaded
11:06 [Allies] levels: going u
11:35 [All] levels: FINISH THEM
11:50 [All] levels: get it?
11:52 [All] levels: like mortal combat
12:15 [All] levels: FATALITY


http://www.ipstarcraft.com/ --iPCHOMP
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
November 02 2011 19:16 GMT
#401
i meant complain to mods in private, not complain to protech. i assume most people who dont like him wouldn't bother to complain to him. i am not going to go through the sotg vods and find the reference. jp said something to the effect of "protech's stream is something you have to watch at least once in your life" and everyone laughed. he wasn't saying it in a complimentary manner though. it may have been a reference to his 3v3 or 4v4 games though to be fair.
Mythito
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada230 Posts
November 02 2011 19:18 GMT
#402
On November 03 2011 04:04 GoldRogers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 02:55 tehredbanditt wrote:
Protech was featured for a reason and defeatured for a reason. I hope teamliquid told him why so that he can work on it and get the featured spot back again. As for the haters in here, the little ammount of exposure that you do get in this game, that you spend SO much time playing, is courtesy of protech. When was the last time you kids did anything of note on this game besides getting on protech nerves every once in a while? Ever get featured stream on tl.net? Ever win a tourney with sponsored, pro players and a purse of over 500 dollars? Ever have a stream that hit over 900 viewers because they just wanted to watch you play? You've gotten more well known through his rantings then you ever would have otherwise.

My opinion aside, this was a blow to the 2v2 scene. His stream posted more viewers then the weekly 2v2 tourney for christ sakes (which is very well run and has a couple of great casters and decent games most of the time).


He was obviously carried by his grandmaster partner (destructive). Destructive did many crucial games that on the games (Ie reactor blocks). Protech is a low level masters league player who only knows how to all in. This is common knowledge. He claims that 60% of his games goto "macro - IE 2 base LOL" but thats only after his all in fails. Expanding at 11 minutes does not condone macro. I do agree that we need more 2v2 players to stream but protech is a horrible representation and gives a terrible representation of what a "high ranked 2v2 player" is (all in every game, accuse enemies of hacking/stream cheating, constant bm to anyone that beats him). This was clearly evident earlier in this thread even before he got defeatured. Many people complained of being banned after beating him for no reason other than his little hissy fits.

Protech is a terrible representation of the 2v2 community, he is racist, paranoid of everyone stream cheating, can only cheese, offensive to any 2v2 random partner that he plays with and loses and is extremely ill mannered and immature. There is a need for a high level 2v2 stream, but protech is the absolute worst candidate.



zerg is a support race in 2v2, just like in brood war, did zerg ever get a higher score than the p/t in brood war? no, does that mean that every zerg in 2v2 sucked? no, why else would having a zerg on your team in brood war be absolutely essential? i never saw a 2v2 in bw without a zerg playing muta support to the immobile p/t deathballs.

getting more than 2 base in 2v2 is hard. having watched most z33k 2v2 weeklys and the PSTL tournies, and a lot of the 2v2s in the EG masters cups.. i can tell you no one ever consistently gets more than 2 bases.

he's not racist, he is paranoid of everyone stream cheating but only because of the shitheads like mannerchomp and proclan trolling him, he is as offensive as idra and no more so. protech isn't perfect, but he is the best 2v2 candidate so far, and what more can you ask?
Did everything just taste purple for a second?
GoldRogers
Profile Joined October 2011
19 Posts
November 02 2011 19:26 GMT
#403
On November 03 2011 04:18 Mythito wrote:
he's not racist, he is paranoid of everyone stream cheating but only because of the shitheads like mannerchomp and proclan trolling him, he is as offensive as idra and no more so. protech isn't perfect, but he is the best 2v2 candidate so far, and what more can you ask?


He liberally uses the derogatory term "Nigger" and "Nigga" on stream. But I guess hes not racist right? If he SAYS hes not racist and uses "Nigger" as a offensive term to call people, he CAN'T be racist right? Its sad when his few fanboy's blatantly lie in a desperate attempt to save his joke a of a reputation.
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 19:42:38
November 02 2011 19:29 GMT
#404
On November 03 2011 04:16 dAPhREAk wrote:
i meant complain to mods in private, not complain to protech. i assume most people who dont like him wouldn't bother to complain to him. i am not going to go through the sotg vods and find the reference. jp said something to the effect of "protech's stream is something you have to watch at least once in your life" and everyone laughed. he wasn't saying it in a complimentary manner though. it may have been a reference to his 3v3 or 4v4 games though to be fair.


Um they were talking about streamers that don't get enough viewers in that SOTG, protechs name came up right away

/shake head

See its people like you that say these things and then people who don't know anything about protech are like "oMG manner chomp and some guy said things its the truth!!"

Look at mannerchomp, the most vocal one of you. I've proven he is a hypocritical lying annoying little kid who teamkills people he doesn't like and is admitted "future" streamcheater just in this thread. Outside of this thread I have BANNED him at least 20 times on his "MANNERCHOMP###" twitch TV accounts and probably a lot more on the smurf accounts that randomly come in and say something doggish. Protech HAS proven that he is a stream cheater in my eyes (hint: I'm a scientist, I look at things objectively and without bias).

You wonder why Protech doesn't give the time of day to random people he meets online ala you? Because the people at the top level are consistently BM, rude and annoying and a few of them were friends who turned into scumbags.


Also if you go through the news threads, a good number of what i'd consider high profile non teamliquid people vouch for protech. Ya I'm sure people talk in private about how hes bad but considering he was getting around 300-400 viewers i'm sure theres a lot more that talk about how he's an entertaining broadcaster who has to deal with so much shit.
hihihi
Mythito
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada230 Posts
November 02 2011 19:31 GMT
#405
On November 03 2011 04:26 GoldRogers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 04:18 Mythito wrote:
he's not racist, he is paranoid of everyone stream cheating but only because of the shitheads like mannerchomp and proclan trolling him, he is as offensive as idra and no more so. protech isn't perfect, but he is the best 2v2 candidate so far, and what more can you ask?


He liberally uses the derogatory term "Nigger" and "Nigga" on stream. But I guess hes not racist right? If he SAYS hes not racist and uses "Nigger" as a offensive term to call people, he CAN'T be racist right? Its sad when his few fanboy's blatantly lie in a desperate attempt to save his joke a of a reputation.


mm and everyone who uses the word gay disparagingly is a homophobe? everyone who uses the word retard is prejudice against mentally handicapped? racism isn't binary, it's not a 1 or a 0, it's a scale, and unless you're actively discriminating by not serving certain ethnicities in a store or something like that, who the fuck cares? saying nigger to random people on the internet who you don't know anything beyond a username is like a 3 on a scale of 1 to 10.
Did everything just taste purple for a second?
GoldRogers
Profile Joined October 2011
19 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 19:36:09
November 02 2011 19:34 GMT
#406
On November 03 2011 04:31 Mythito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 04:26 GoldRogers wrote:
On November 03 2011 04:18 Mythito wrote:
he's not racist, he is paranoid of everyone stream cheating but only because of the shitheads like mannerchomp and proclan trolling him, he is as offensive as idra and no more so. protech isn't perfect, but he is the best 2v2 candidate so far, and what more can you ask?


He liberally uses the derogatory term "Nigger" and "Nigga" on stream. But I guess hes not racist right? If he SAYS hes not racist and uses "Nigger" as a offensive term to call people, he CAN'T be racist right? Its sad when his few fanboy's blatantly lie in a desperate attempt to save his joke a of a reputation.


mm and everyone who uses the word gay disparagingly is a homophobe? everyone who uses the word retard is prejudice against mentally handicapped? racism isn't binary, it's not a 1 or a 0, it's a scale, and unless you're actively discriminating by not serving certain ethnicities in a store or something like that, who the fuck cares? saying nigger to random people on the internet who you don't know anything beyond a username is like a 3 on a scale of 1 to 10.



I guess that why blizzard doesn't have a report button for racism. OH WAIT. Go call someone a nigger on team liquid see what happens. Its still on the internet right? Your logic is terribly flawed. Racism is not acceptable anywhere, just because YOU think its acceptable doesn't mean the rest of the community does. Your low standards for interaction is not shared by everyone else, I'm sorry.
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 19:40:03
November 02 2011 19:37 GMT
#407
On November 03 2011 04:34 GoldRogers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 04:31 Mythito wrote:
On November 03 2011 04:26 GoldRogers wrote:
On November 03 2011 04:18 Mythito wrote:
he's not racist, he is paranoid of everyone stream cheating but only because of the shitheads like mannerchomp and proclan trolling him, he is as offensive as idra and no more so. protech isn't perfect, but he is the best 2v2 candidate so far, and what more can you ask?


He liberally uses the derogatory term "Nigger" and "Nigga" on stream. But I guess hes not racist right? If he SAYS hes not racist and uses "Nigger" as a offensive term to call people, he CAN'T be racist right? Its sad when his few fanboy's blatantly lie in a desperate attempt to save his joke a of a reputation.


mm and everyone who uses the word gay disparagingly is a homophobe? everyone who uses the word retard is prejudice against mentally handicapped? racism isn't binary, it's not a 1 or a 0, it's a scale, and unless you're actively discriminating by not serving certain ethnicities in a store or something like that, who the fuck cares? saying nigger to random people on the internet who you don't know anything beyond a username is like a 3 on a scale of 1 to 10.



I guess that why blizzard doesn't have a report button for racism. OH WAIT. Go call someone a nigger on team liquid see what happens. Its still on the internet right? Your logic is terribly flawed. Racism is not acceptable anywhere, just because YOU think its acceptable doesn't mean the rest of the community does. Your low standards for interaction is not shared by everyone else, I'm sorry.


You're stupid, I'm pure bred from India and I am one of the more senior mods and protech has yellow fever and raps while listening to WU-TANG

REAL racIST.

yo daphreAK, these are the people who are on your side. rofl jokes
hihihi
GoldRogers
Profile Joined October 2011
19 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 19:42:57
November 02 2011 19:42 GMT
#408
On November 03 2011 04:37 askTeivospy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 04:34 GoldRogers wrote:
On November 03 2011 04:31 Mythito wrote:
On November 03 2011 04:26 GoldRogers wrote:
On November 03 2011 04:18 Mythito wrote:
he's not racist, he is paranoid of everyone stream cheating but only because of the shitheads like mannerchomp and proclan trolling him, he is as offensive as idra and no more so. protech isn't perfect, but he is the best 2v2 candidate so far, and what more can you ask?


He liberally uses the derogatory term "Nigger" and "Nigga" on stream. But I guess hes not racist right? If he SAYS hes not racist and uses "Nigger" as a offensive term to call people, he CAN'T be racist right? Its sad when his few fanboy's blatantly lie in a desperate attempt to save his joke a of a reputation.


mm and everyone who uses the word gay disparagingly is a homophobe? everyone who uses the word retard is prejudice against mentally handicapped? racism isn't binary, it's not a 1 or a 0, it's a scale, and unless you're actively discriminating by not serving certain ethnicities in a store or something like that, who the fuck cares? saying nigger to random people on the internet who you don't know anything beyond a username is like a 3 on a scale of 1 to 10.



I guess that why blizzard doesn't have a report button for racism. OH WAIT. Go call someone a nigger on team liquid see what happens. Its still on the internet right? Your logic is terribly flawed. Racism is not acceptable anywhere, just because YOU think its acceptable doesn't mean the rest of the community does. Your low standards for interaction is not shared by everyone else, I'm sorry.


You're stupid, I'm pure bred from India and I am one of the more senior mods and protech has yellow fever and raps while listening to WU-TANG

REAL racIST.

yo daphreAK, these are the people who are on your side. rofl jokes


Resorting to ad hominem when you can't provide an explanation for his blatant racism. These are the kinds of people that support protech.
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 19:44:53
November 02 2011 19:44 GMT
#409
On November 03 2011 04:42 GoldRogers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 04:37 askTeivospy wrote:
On November 03 2011 04:34 GoldRogers wrote:
On November 03 2011 04:31 Mythito wrote:
On November 03 2011 04:26 GoldRogers wrote:
On November 03 2011 04:18 Mythito wrote:
he's not racist, he is paranoid of everyone stream cheating but only because of the shitheads like mannerchomp and proclan trolling him, he is as offensive as idra and no more so. protech isn't perfect, but he is the best 2v2 candidate so far, and what more can you ask?


He liberally uses the derogatory term "Nigger" and "Nigga" on stream. But I guess hes not racist right? If he SAYS hes not racist and uses "Nigger" as a offensive term to call people, he CAN'T be racist right? Its sad when his few fanboy's blatantly lie in a desperate attempt to save his joke a of a reputation.


mm and everyone who uses the word gay disparagingly is a homophobe? everyone who uses the word retard is prejudice against mentally handicapped? racism isn't binary, it's not a 1 or a 0, it's a scale, and unless you're actively discriminating by not serving certain ethnicities in a store or something like that, who the fuck cares? saying nigger to random people on the internet who you don't know anything beyond a username is like a 3 on a scale of 1 to 10.



I guess that why blizzard doesn't have a report button for racism. OH WAIT. Go call someone a nigger on team liquid see what happens. Its still on the internet right? Your logic is terribly flawed. Racism is not acceptable anywhere, just because YOU think its acceptable doesn't mean the rest of the community does. Your low standards for interaction is not shared by everyone else, I'm sorry.


You're stupid, I'm pure bred from India and I am one of the more senior mods and protech has yellow fever and raps while listening to WU-TANG

REAL racIST.

yo daphreAK, these are the people who are on your side. rofl jokes


Resorting to when you can't provide an explanation for his blatant racism. These are the kinds of people that support protech. QED.


words aren't racism unless you're 12. fear of association with other races so you ignore / attack them is racism
hihihi
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 19:46:17
November 02 2011 19:44 GMT
#410
On November 03 2011 04:29 askTeivospy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 04:16 dAPhREAk wrote:
i meant complain to mods in private, not complain to protech. i assume most people who dont like him wouldn't bother to complain to him. i am not going to go through the sotg vods and find the reference. jp said something to the effect of "protech's stream is something you have to watch at least once in your life" and everyone laughed. he wasn't saying it in a complimentary manner though. it may have been a reference to his 3v3 or 4v4 games though to be fair.


Um they were talking about streamers that don't get enough viewers in that SOTG, protechs name came up right away

/shake head

See its people like you that say these things and then people who don't know anything about protech are like "oMG manner chomp and some guy said things its the truth!!"

Look at mannerchomp, the most vocal one of you. I've proven he is a hypocritical lying annoying little kid who teamkills people he doesn't like and is admitted "future" streamcheater just in this thread. Outside of this thread I have BANNED him at least 20 times on his "MANNERCHOMP###" twitch TV accounts and probably a lot more on the smurf accounts that randomly come in and say something doggish. Protech HAS proven that he is a stream cheater in my eyes (hint: I'm a scientist, I look at things objectively and without bias).

You wonder why Protech doesn't give the time of day to random people he meets online ala you? Because the people at the top level are consistently BM, rude and annoying and a few of them were friends who turned into scumbags.


Also if you go through the news threads, a good number of what i'd consider high profile non teamliquid people vouch for protech. Ya I'm sure people talk in private about how hes bad but considering he was getting around 300-400 viewers i'm sure theres a lot more that talk about how he's an entertaining broadcaster who has to deal with so much shit.

what a joke: "objectively and without bias." if you think they were praising protech on sotg, you have some serious comprehension issues.

also, why are you grouping me with mannerchomp? i dont like him either.
GoldRogers
Profile Joined October 2011
19 Posts
November 02 2011 19:51 GMT
#411
On November 03 2011 04:44 askTeivospy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 04:42 GoldRogers wrote:
On November 03 2011 04:37 askTeivospy wrote:
On November 03 2011 04:34 GoldRogers wrote:
On November 03 2011 04:31 Mythito wrote:
On November 03 2011 04:26 GoldRogers wrote:
On November 03 2011 04:18 Mythito wrote:
he's not racist, he is paranoid of everyone stream cheating but only because of the shitheads like mannerchomp and proclan trolling him, he is as offensive as idra and no more so. protech isn't perfect, but he is the best 2v2 candidate so far, and what more can you ask?


He liberally uses the derogatory term "Nigger" and "Nigga" on stream. But I guess hes not racist right? If he SAYS hes not racist and uses "Nigger" as a offensive term to call people, he CAN'T be racist right? Its sad when his few fanboy's blatantly lie in a desperate attempt to save his joke a of a reputation.


mm and everyone who uses the word gay disparagingly is a homophobe? everyone who uses the word retard is prejudice against mentally handicapped? racism isn't binary, it's not a 1 or a 0, it's a scale, and unless you're actively discriminating by not serving certain ethnicities in a store or something like that, who the fuck cares? saying nigger to random people on the internet who you don't know anything beyond a username is like a 3 on a scale of 1 to 10.



I guess that why blizzard doesn't have a report button for racism. OH WAIT. Go call someone a nigger on team liquid see what happens. Its still on the internet right? Your logic is terribly flawed. Racism is not acceptable anywhere, just because YOU think its acceptable doesn't mean the rest of the community does. Your low standards for interaction is not shared by everyone else, I'm sorry.


You're stupid, I'm pure bred from India and I am one of the more senior mods and protech has yellow fever and raps while listening to WU-TANG

REAL racIST.

yo daphreAK, these are the people who are on your side. rofl jokes


Resorting to when you can't provide an explanation for his blatant racism. These are the kinds of people that support protech. QED.


words aren't racism unless you're 12. fear of association with other races so you ignore / attack them is racism


By your logic, calling someone a "Nigger" is not racist if the person are 13. Okay, I can tell I'm debating with a heavily uneducated audience. You can continue believing Protech is a nicest person in the world that cares about all creeds and sexual orientation.
Mythito
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada230 Posts
November 02 2011 19:55 GMT
#412
On November 03 2011 04:34 GoldRogers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 04:31 Mythito wrote:
On November 03 2011 04:26 GoldRogers wrote:
On November 03 2011 04:18 Mythito wrote:
he's not racist, he is paranoid of everyone stream cheating but only because of the shitheads like mannerchomp and proclan trolling him, he is as offensive as idra and no more so. protech isn't perfect, but he is the best 2v2 candidate so far, and what more can you ask?


He liberally uses the derogatory term "Nigger" and "Nigga" on stream. But I guess hes not racist right? If he SAYS hes not racist and uses "Nigger" as a offensive term to call people, he CAN'T be racist right? Its sad when his few fanboy's blatantly lie in a desperate attempt to save his joke a of a reputation.


mm and everyone who uses the word gay disparagingly is a homophobe? everyone who uses the word retard is prejudice against mentally handicapped? racism isn't binary, it's not a 1 or a 0, it's a scale, and unless you're actively discriminating by not serving certain ethnicities in a store or something like that, who the fuck cares? saying nigger to random people on the internet who you don't know anything beyond a username is like a 3 on a scale of 1 to 10.



I guess that why blizzard doesn't have a report button for racism. OH WAIT. Go call someone a nigger on team liquid see what happens. Its still on the internet right? Your logic is terribly flawed. Racism is not acceptable anywhere, just because YOU think its acceptable doesn't mean the rest of the community does. Your low standards for interaction is not shared by everyone else, I'm sorry.


blizzard has a report button for racism because you can say racist things on the internet, you can say "black people should still be slaves" < that's racist. has protech ever said anything like that?
and as for when i said racism is acceptable, please point that out because i'm pretty sure i didnt. i said that it's not worth caring about someone saying nigger randomly on the internet. it's like if someone calls something gay on the internet should people really care about that? don't you think it's a little more important to establish gay marriage universally? don't you think it's a little more important to make laws that treat homosexuals and heterosexuals as equal? don't you think that institutional racism is a little bit more important than someone saying nigger to someone who is in all probability not even black?

if you think my logic is flawed, you need to actually listen and think about my words and stop pulling assumptions and accusations out of your ass
Did everything just taste purple for a second?
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 20:15:11
November 02 2011 19:56 GMT
#413
On November 03 2011 04:51 GoldRogers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 04:44 askTeivospy wrote:
On November 03 2011 04:42 GoldRogers wrote:
On November 03 2011 04:37 askTeivospy wrote:
On November 03 2011 04:34 GoldRogers wrote:
On November 03 2011 04:31 Mythito wrote:
On November 03 2011 04:26 GoldRogers wrote:
On November 03 2011 04:18 Mythito wrote:
he's not racist, he is paranoid of everyone stream cheating but only because of the shitheads like mannerchomp and proclan trolling him, he is as offensive as idra and no more so. protech isn't perfect, but he is the best 2v2 candidate so far, and what more can you ask?


He liberally uses the derogatory term "Nigger" and "Nigga" on stream. But I guess hes not racist right? If he SAYS hes not racist and uses "Nigger" as a offensive term to call people, he CAN'T be racist right? Its sad when his few fanboy's blatantly lie in a desperate attempt to save his joke a of a reputation.


mm and everyone who uses the word gay disparagingly is a homophobe? everyone who uses the word retard is prejudice against mentally handicapped? racism isn't binary, it's not a 1 or a 0, it's a scale, and unless you're actively discriminating by not serving certain ethnicities in a store or something like that, who the fuck cares? saying nigger to random people on the internet who you don't know anything beyond a username is like a 3 on a scale of 1 to 10.



I guess that why blizzard doesn't have a report button for racism. OH WAIT. Go call someone a nigger on team liquid see what happens. Its still on the internet right? Your logic is terribly flawed. Racism is not acceptable anywhere, just because YOU think its acceptable doesn't mean the rest of the community does. Your low standards for interaction is not shared by everyone else, I'm sorry.


You're stupid, I'm pure bred from India and I am one of the more senior mods and protech has yellow fever and raps while listening to WU-TANG

REAL racIST.

yo daphreAK, these are the people who are on your side. rofl jokes


Resorting to when you can't provide an explanation for his blatant racism. These are the kinds of people that support protech. QED.


words aren't racism unless you're 12. fear of association with other races so you ignore / attack them is racism


By your logic, calling someone a "Nigger" is not racist if the person are 13. Okay, I can tell I'm debating with a heavily uneducated audience. You can continue believing Protech is a nicest person in the world that cares about all creeds and sexual orientation.


did you know we're on the internet? By your logic a good chunk (undoubtedly including yourself) is racist and homophobic for the words they use over the internet

also, why are you grouping me with mannerchomp? i dont like him either.

yes objective and bias, before i watched the replay evidence / reasoning / live games against mannerchomp I had no idea who mannerchomp was. Afterwards I agree with protech he's 100% stream cheat and his behavior just in this thread alone reinforces that imo

Good you don't like him though, +respect. Now imagine all the other annoying mannerchompesque regulars (Teivotip: they obsess so much that they made a facebook group where they routinely insult him) that we have to deal with and maybe you'd feel some empathy concerning the shit protech and the stream in general has to deal with
hihihi
xiver
Profile Joined August 2010
Serbia18 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 21:08:34
November 02 2011 20:47 GMT
#414
Moral nazism is worst... wasting time to bash streamer and be judge of someone's behavior is just sad... dAPhREAk, GoldRogers and ppl like them really need to get a job or something... leave man alone, his contribution to community is surely bigger than yours... ovbiously you watch his stream, so you might as well learn something

I don't mind BM and rage, but then again I'm not 15y old girl... Destiny and IdrA BM twice as much and what are they: respected and recognized players... Protech streams every game he plays, maybe he is a sore loser sometimes, but his skill level and game understanding are unquestionable... so pls instead of wasting time criticizing, go do something useful, or get laid, thay might help!

EDIT: typo
Azide
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada566 Posts
November 02 2011 21:21 GMT
#415
wat is this i dont even

based on the link some dude sent me about sorcery hacking from tQ's post... yeah definitely looks like a hack but who is cryptoplasm? is that vitamin? cause it was either cryptoplasm hacking and cancelled robo or sorcery was telling him this shit over skype/vent -- but its definitely incriminating and i wouldnt be surprised. but tQ has played with vitamin since this so i dont see how this makes me any worse than tQ as tQ was one of protechs allies for a long time
Azide and SuperNinja - Best Double Protoss 2v2 Team!
insomdapowahouz
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada58 Posts
November 02 2011 21:31 GMT
#416
'ProTech' your argument is I just must not watch your stream enough, and I have no idea what I'm talking about.
That is not an argument.

I've spent a few hours watching your stream and that's enough to have an opinion, and one that many people share;
2v2 games are fucking awful.


You then have your one of your partners posts this gem:
"When was the last time you kids did anything of note on this game besides getting on protech nerves every once in a while? Ever get featured stream on tl.net? Ever win a tourney with sponsored, pro players and a purse of over 500 dollars?"

You're shit talking anyone who disagrees with you, and then saying "YEA LOL WE HAD THE LOWEST RATED NON-BW STREAM AND WON A 2v2 TOURNY AGAINST 1v1 PLAYERS AFTER SPENDING 8 HOURS A DAY PLAYING 2v2, YEAH WE'RE GOSU AS SHIT AND EVERYTHING YOU SAYS IS WRONG"

There are literally like 10+ 200-300 view non featured streams that are far, far more deserving of attention than you are.
Grow up.
hipsterHobbit
Profile Joined September 2011
United States218 Posts
November 02 2011 21:41 GMT
#417
On November 03 2011 04:29 askTeivospy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 04:16 dAPhREAk wrote:
i meant complain to mods in private, not complain to protech. i assume most people who dont like him wouldn't bother to complain to him. i am not going to go through the sotg vods and find the reference. jp said something to the effect of "protech's stream is something you have to watch at least once in your life" and everyone laughed. he wasn't saying it in a complimentary manner though. it may have been a reference to his 3v3 or 4v4 games though to be fair.



Because the people at the top level are consistently BM, rude and annoying and a few of them were friends who turned into scumbags.

Your passion and desire to stay so firmly lodged to Protech's scrotum is clouding your judgement.

The only person who turned in to [more of] a scumbag, as if it were even possible, was Protech. He deleted his entire friend list and ignored a good portion of the better 2v2 players just as he started streaming. Are you so naive that you think it's a coincidence nobody likes him?

I guess so, for the same reason you think protech offers some deep insight to the game when in reality he just never scouts and does cheesy and poorly thought out builds.

tehredbanditt
Profile Joined July 2010
103 Posts
November 02 2011 21:49 GMT
#418
On November 03 2011 06:31 insomdapowahouz wrote:
'ProTech' your argument is I just must not watch your stream enough, and I have no idea what I'm talking about.
That is not an argument.

I've spent a few hours watching your stream and that's enough to have an opinion, and one that many people share;
2v2 games are fucking awful.


You then have your one of your partners posts this gem:
"When was the last time you kids did anything of note on this game besides getting on protech nerves every once in a while? Ever get featured stream on tl.net? Ever win a tourney with sponsored, pro players and a purse of over 500 dollars?"

You're shit talking anyone who disagrees with you, and then saying "YEA LOL WE HAD THE LOWEST RATED NON-BW STREAM AND WON A 2v2 TOURNY AGAINST 1v1 PLAYERS AFTER SPENDING 8 HOURS A DAY PLAYING 2v2, YEAH WE'RE GOSU AS SHIT AND EVERYTHING YOU SAYS IS WRONG"

There are literally like 10+ 200-300 view non featured streams that are far, far more deserving of attention than you are.
Grow up.

Some of the pro teams were (are) very active in the 2v2 ladder/scene and had played together since BW. Also, the team that got 2nd place also took 2v2 very seriously and ended up getting sponsored by a well known team. I can understand if you don't like protech, but understating that tourney win is not fair. There was alot of talent there.
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hipsterHobbit
Profile Joined September 2011
United States218 Posts
November 02 2011 22:16 GMT
#419
Does he pay you to ally him like he did Power?
Zidane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1685 Posts
November 02 2011 22:27 GMT
#420
On November 02 2011 15:17 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Regarding ProTechs stream: ......

Added to this we have received a lot of complaints regarding his behavior. When it comes to making exceptions we would rather err on the side of caution and not feature a stream that gets so many complaints.


All I gotta say is karma's a bitch ain't it.

You piss enough people off, they'll end up screwing you in the ass in the end.

lawlerblades
baba1
Profile Joined April 2005
Canada355 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 22:38:03
November 02 2011 22:37 GMT
#421
First thing I'd like to say is that GoldRogers is a fucking idiot.
Stop being so butt hurted over words that were said on a stream and not even aimed at you. Go watch that episode of SOTG where they talked about words not meaning exactly what they are supposed to mean.

Like if I say: you mad coz protech raped you in 2v2? Does it actually mean that he sexually raped you and you gonna sue him for it? NO! if he is happy to see his buddy bandit and says : SUP NIGGA !! does it instantly mean that he hates black ppl ? NO !! now stfu and grow up kid.

Second thing I'd like to point out is all you haters are gonna hate.
I'd like to see how YOU would do in PTSL.
noq uote
VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 22:50:49
November 02 2011 22:48 GMT
#422
I say nigga, I must be racist. It's the internet, calm down. -_-

On November 03 2011 04:44 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 04:29 askTeivospy wrote:
On November 03 2011 04:16 dAPhREAk wrote:
i meant complain to mods in private, not complain to protech. i assume most people who dont like him wouldn't bother to complain to him. i am not going to go through the sotg vods and find the reference. jp said something to the effect of "protech's stream is something you have to watch at least once in your life" and everyone laughed. he wasn't saying it in a complimentary manner though. it may have been a reference to his 3v3 or 4v4 games though to be fair.


Um they were talking about streamers that don't get enough viewers in that SOTG, protechs name came up right away

/shake head

See its people like you that say these things and then people who don't know anything about protech are like "oMG manner chomp and some guy said things its the truth!!"

Look at mannerchomp, the most vocal one of you. I've proven he is a hypocritical lying annoying little kid who teamkills people he doesn't like and is admitted "future" streamcheater just in this thread. Outside of this thread I have BANNED him at least 20 times on his "MANNERCHOMP###" twitch TV accounts and probably a lot more on the smurf accounts that randomly come in and say something doggish. Protech HAS proven that he is a stream cheater in my eyes (hint: I'm a scientist, I look at things objectively and without bias).

You wonder why Protech doesn't give the time of day to random people he meets online ala you? Because the people at the top level are consistently BM, rude and annoying and a few of them were friends who turned into scumbags.


Also if you go through the news threads, a good number of what i'd consider high profile non teamliquid people vouch for protech. Ya I'm sure people talk in private about how hes bad but considering he was getting around 300-400 viewers i'm sure theres a lot more that talk about how he's an entertaining broadcaster who has to deal with so much shit.

what a joke: "objectively and without bias." if you think they were praising protech on sotg, you have some serious comprehension issues.

also, why are you grouping me with mannerchomp? i dont like him either.

Going purely on memory about SotG for either you or tievoSpy isn't helping at all. It's all "he said, she said" without links/proof. And he's not so much as grouping you with them (which would suck), just stating that you are on the same side. Which you are.

On November 03 2011 04:16 dAPhREAk wrote:
i meant complain to mods in private, not complain to protech. i assume most people who dont like him wouldn't bother to complain to him. i am not going to go through the sotg vods and find the reference. jp said something to the effect of "protech's stream is something you have to watch at least once in your life" and everyone laughed. he wasn't saying it in a complimentary manner though. it may have been a reference to his 3v3 or 4v4 games though to be fair.

Why would people go tell a TL mod about wht they see on a JustinTV/twitch stream? That doesn't even make any sense, and they can't do anything about that at all. Plus, you're assuming, so that doesn't matter at all.

@mannerCHOMP: So, basically, what you did is post "logs" of Protech bitching at people that already have a problem with. Including yourself in game 1. You're kidding, right? That's a fucking joke. Let's get some "logs" of IdrA vs crunCher, or earlier games of Destiny vs CombatEX as well. (Note: "logs" is in quotations because they aren't the actual logs, just outtakes from what could be logs, and can be taken heavily out of context.)


Edit: Ohhey, GoldRogers (awesome name btw, One Piece <3). I just noticed that you have a remarkable 11 posts. They wouldn't all be in this topic and the Site Changes topic all bashing ProTech, would they? Seems like an alternate account, or one of manner's buddies, to me.
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Azide
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada566 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 22:50:38
November 02 2011 22:50 GMT
#423
delete plz
Azide and SuperNinja - Best Double Protoss 2v2 Team!
Azide
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada566 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 22:52:10
November 02 2011 22:50 GMT
#424
On November 03 2011 07:27 Zidane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 15:17 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Regarding ProTechs stream: ......

Added to this we have received a lot of complaints regarding his behavior. When it comes to making exceptions we would rather err on the side of caution and not feature a stream that gets so many complaints.


All I gotta say is karma's a bitch ain't it.

You piss enough people off, they'll end up screwing you in the ass in the end.

lawlerblades



lol man i misinterpreted this post twice now... sigh
Azide and SuperNinja - Best Double Protoss 2v2 Team!
insomdapowahouz
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada58 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 23:06:37
November 02 2011 23:05 GMT
#425
'tehredbandit'
Yeah you won a tournament and there were some arguably good pairs there.
Okay, but how about the rest of my post you know where I address how you're using that as a substitute for logic/an argument.

Also, what you're saying is the players who exclusively practice 2v2 took top first and second place in... gasp... a 2v2 tourny?

Do you really think ret/shet or select/optik practised for that shit? Because laddering into masters 2v2 isn't "practicing".

The rest of the "team players" are just bottom of the barrel players on respectable teams such as EGs pair, xSix, and ?mouz
or simply regular players on bottom of the barrel teams (vVv, tQ, etc..)


Still, none of this is even relevant. This is about what TL wants their stream page to be and represent (which you obviously don't live up to).
VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 23:14:55
November 02 2011 23:14 GMT
#426
On November 03 2011 08:05 insomdapowahouz wrote:
Also, what you're saying is the players who exclusively practice 2v2 took top first and second place in... gasp... a 2v2 tourny?

Do you really think ret/shet or select/optik practised for that shit? Because laddering into masters 2v2 isn't "practicing".

The rest of the "team players" are just bottom of the barrel players on respectable teams such as EGs pair, xSix, and ?mouz
or simply regular players on bottom of the barrel teams (vVv, tQ, etc...

Yea... because *gasp* it was a 2v2 tournament. That's why it's completely relevant. Also, SeleCt/optik are well-known for being a really good 2v2 team, and I THINK Ret/Sheth are as well (don't quote me on that second part). Talking about 1v1 players doesn't matter at all, since it's a different kind of game, which translates to different games as well. I'm a beast at 2v2/Doubles in Pokemon, but suck in 1v1/Singles. =p

Edit: lol poor azide. I saw those 2 posts too xD
VashTS; 330; Random -- Ranked #9 Pokemon Video Game Player in the World in 2009
GoldRogers
Profile Joined October 2011
19 Posts
November 02 2011 23:14 GMT
#427
Thank god that down syndrome piece of shit didn't get featured again. Horray for Team Liquid!

User was temp banned for this post.
VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
November 02 2011 23:15 GMT
#428
On November 03 2011 08:14 GoldRogers wrote:
Thank god that down syndrome piece of shit didn't get featured again. Horray for Team Liquid!

Wow, nice attitude.
VashTS; 330; Random -- Ranked #9 Pokemon Video Game Player in the World in 2009
Rive
Profile Joined April 2011
United States11 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 23:21:38
November 02 2011 23:21 GMT
#429
Whether you Like Protech Or Dislike Him, you can all Agree 100% The Reason his stream was De-Featured was his poor attitude, his constant complaining, his constant accusations of Hacking / Stream cheating, His constant paranoia of Sorcery and the way he treats everyone he plays. He has no one to blame but himself, Maybe if he actually starts changing these things he will be featured again. I believe him becoming featured got to his head and he began to think he was above everyone else.
"I Enjoy Coffee Flavored Water..."
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
November 02 2011 23:22 GMT
#430
On November 03 2011 08:21 Rive wrote:
Whether you Like Protech Or Dislike Him, you can all Agree 100% The Reason his stream was De-Featured was his poor attitude, his constant complaining, his constant accusations of Hacking / Stream cheating, His constant paranoia of Sorcery and the way he treats everyone he plays. He has no one to blame but himself, Maybe if he actually starts changing these things he will be featured again. I believe him becoming featured got to his head and he began to think he was above everyone else.

not really. the reason he was defeatured was because of his stream numbers, and no notable factors to overcome those low numbers.
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
November 02 2011 23:30 GMT
#431
On November 03 2011 04:16 dAPhREAk wrote:
i meant complain to mods in private, not complain to protech. i assume most people who dont like him wouldn't bother to complain to him. i am not going to go through the sotg vods and find the reference. jp said something to the effect of "protech's stream is something you have to watch at least once in your life" and everyone laughed. he wasn't saying it in a complimentary manner though. it may have been a reference to his 3v3 or 4v4 games though to be fair.



daphreak, i'm gonna actually repsond to one of your posts as i'm sick and tired of your retarded accusations and horrible bad manner.

the only reason you're out for me is because you lose all the time to me, you dont play 1v1, you only play team games. so stop making it seem like you're high and mighty.
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
November 02 2011 23:30 GMT
#432
On November 03 2011 08:21 Rive wrote:
Whether you Like Protech Or Dislike Him, you can all Agree 100% The Reason his stream was De-Featured was his poor attitude, his constant complaining, his constant accusations of Hacking / Stream cheating, His constant paranoia of Sorcery and the way he treats everyone he plays. He has no one to blame but himself, Maybe if he actually starts changing these things he will be featured again. I believe him becoming featured got to his head and he began to think he was above everyone else.



Wrong.
hipsterHobbit
Profile Joined September 2011
United States218 Posts
November 02 2011 23:32 GMT
#433
Protech is sick of your bad manner, now excuse him while he goes and trashes everyone in the 2v2 scene on his stream.
Rive
Profile Joined April 2011
United States11 Posts
November 02 2011 23:33 GMT
#434
On November 03 2011 08:30 ProTech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 08:21 Rive wrote:
Whether you Like Protech Or Dislike Him, you can all Agree 100% The Reason his stream was De-Featured was his poor attitude, his constant complaining, his constant accusations of Hacking / Stream cheating, His constant paranoia of Sorcery and the way he treats everyone he plays. He has no one to blame but himself, Maybe if he actually starts changing these things he will be featured again. I believe him becoming featured got to his head and he began to think he was above everyone else.



Wrong.



Liquid`Nazgul-
Regarding ProTechs stream:

The numbers ProTech pulls are not sufficient enough for us to justify a featured stream. When it comes to making exceptions for streamers with low numbers we look at contribution, notoriety and results which are all lacking from ProTech.

Added to this we have received a lot of complaints regarding his behavior. When it comes to making exceptions we would rather err on the side of caution and not feature a stream that gets so many complaints.



Not wrong
"I Enjoy Coffee Flavored Water..."
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
November 02 2011 23:34 GMT
#435
On November 03 2011 08:33 Rive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 08:30 ProTech wrote:
On November 03 2011 08:21 Rive wrote:
Whether you Like Protech Or Dislike Him, you can all Agree 100% The Reason his stream was De-Featured was his poor attitude, his constant complaining, his constant accusations of Hacking / Stream cheating, His constant paranoia of Sorcery and the way he treats everyone he plays. He has no one to blame but himself, Maybe if he actually starts changing these things he will be featured again. I believe him becoming featured got to his head and he began to think he was above everyone else.



Wrong.



Liquid`Nazgul-
Regarding ProTechs stream:

The numbers ProTech pulls are not sufficient enough for us to justify a featured stream. When it comes to making exceptions for streamers with low numbers we look at contribution, notoriety and results which are all lacking from ProTech.

Added to this we have received a lot of complaints regarding his behavior. When it comes to making exceptions we would rather err on the side of caution and not feature a stream that gets so many complaints.



Not wrong



Obviously, you didn't see the third mail.
hipsterHobbit
Profile Joined September 2011
United States218 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 23:37:13
November 02 2011 23:36 GMT
#436
On November 03 2011 08:34 ProTech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 08:33 Rive wrote:
On November 03 2011 08:30 ProTech wrote:
On November 03 2011 08:21 Rive wrote:
Whether you Like Protech Or Dislike Him, you can all Agree 100% The Reason his stream was De-Featured was his poor attitude, his constant complaining, his constant accusations of Hacking / Stream cheating, His constant paranoia of Sorcery and the way he treats everyone he plays. He has no one to blame but himself, Maybe if he actually starts changing these things he will be featured again. I believe him becoming featured got to his head and he began to think he was above everyone else.



Wrong.



Liquid`Nazgul-
Regarding ProTechs stream:

The numbers ProTech pulls are not sufficient enough for us to justify a featured stream. When it comes to making exceptions for streamers with low numbers we look at contribution, notoriety and results which are all lacking from ProTech.

Added to this we have received a lot of complaints regarding his behavior. When it comes to making exceptions we would rather err on the side of caution and not feature a stream that gets so many complaints.



Not wrong



Obviously, you didn't see the third mail.

oops
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
November 02 2011 23:42 GMT
#437
On November 03 2011 08:30 ProTech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 04:16 dAPhREAk wrote:
i meant complain to mods in private, not complain to protech. i assume most people who dont like him wouldn't bother to complain to him. i am not going to go through the sotg vods and find the reference. jp said something to the effect of "protech's stream is something you have to watch at least once in your life" and everyone laughed. he wasn't saying it in a complimentary manner though. it may have been a reference to his 3v3 or 4v4 games though to be fair.



daphreak, i'm gonna actually repsond to one of your posts as i'm sick and tired of your retarded accusations and horrible bad manner.

the only reason you're out for me is because you lose all the time to me, you dont play 1v1, you only play team games. so stop making it seem like you're high and mighty.

so, you aren't bad mannered in your games? because that is the "retarded accusation" i am making, and apparently everyone else. i am out to get you because you are an asshole on your stream and dont deserve to be featured; i am not trying to hide that all. i never said i was better than you, or even that i am good so the ad hominem is ineffective. it really is neither here nor there though because tl.net thinks you dont deserve being featured, and that was all i want. maybe you should use your 8-10 hour days and get a real job now.
xiver
Profile Joined August 2010
Serbia18 Posts
November 03 2011 00:00 GMT
#438
I love how all those kids watch protech channel and then come here and talk shit. dAPhREAk even sent me PM how he consider his victory Protech being unfeatured...

There are his messages for readers pleasure:

protech sucks. if you didn't suck, you may understand that. he is also an asshole, which is why people dislike him. and he got defeatured because of it. oooooops, at the end of the day you can say whatever you want, but he was defeatured, so in my mind i have already won.


thanks for feeling sorry for me! oh, by the way, protech sucks. if anybody cared about 2v2, he would be nowhere near the top.


Who is this guy and why is he so obsessed, does he have crush, is he just mad, sad or something else?
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
November 03 2011 00:07 GMT
#439
On November 03 2011 09:00 xiver wrote:
I love how all those kids watch protech channel and then come here and talk shit. dAPhREAk even sent me PM how he consider his victory Protech being unfeatured...

There are his messages for readers pleasure:

Show nested quote +
protech sucks. if you didn't suck, you may understand that. he is also an asshole, which is why people dislike him. and he got defeatured because of it. oooooops, at the end of the day you can say whatever you want, but he was defeatured, so in my mind i have already won.


Show nested quote +
thanks for feeling sorry for me! oh, by the way, protech sucks. if anybody cared about 2v2, he would be nowhere near the top.


Who is this guy and why is he so obsessed, does he have crush, is he just mad, sad or something else?




idk if thats true but regardless i posted this already


On November 02 2011 16:07 askTeivospy wrote:
i think the most annoying part about all of this is that I know how a lot of you actually are rude and deserve bans just from modding the stream for last 8 months and then seeing the polar opposite behavior on teamliquid, because you're really touting that whole maturity banner here.

schizophrenic


People just hide how they actually are, its sad imo
hihihi
VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
November 03 2011 00:10 GMT
#440
On November 03 2011 09:00 xiver wrote:
I love how all those kids watch protech channel and then come here and talk shit. dAPhREAk even sent me PM how he consider his victory Protech being unfeatured...

There are his messages for readers pleasure:

Show nested quote +
protech sucks. if you didn't suck, you may understand that. he is also an asshole, which is why people dislike him. and he got defeatured because of it. oooooops, at the end of the day you can say whatever you want, but he was defeatured, so in my mind i have already won.


Show nested quote +
thanks for feeling sorry for me! oh, by the way, protech sucks. if anybody cared about 2v2, he would be nowhere near the top.


Who is this guy and why is he so obsessed, does he have crush, is he just mad, sad or something else?

That's actually messed up of you. You shouldn't be sharing peoples PMs like that. We knew that was how he felt anyway. =p
VashTS; 330; Random -- Ranked #9 Pokemon Video Game Player in the World in 2009
Mythito
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada230 Posts
November 03 2011 00:14 GMT
#441
On November 03 2011 08:14 GoldRogers wrote:
Thank god that down syndrome piece of shit didn't get featured again. Horray for Team Liquid!

User was temp banned for this post.


hilarious that he's all "holier than thou" and high and mighty when someone uses the word nigger but then he names someone a downs syndrome blah blah.. does he think racism is bad but making fun of people with disabilities is good?
Did everything just taste purple for a second?
Mawwrice
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland23 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-03 02:57:10
November 03 2011 00:15 GMT
#442
Why all these guys are so mad? jealousy or something like that? You all being so proud behind your keyboards yelling that ProTech is not a part of "2v2 community". Actually he is, the only one featured (unfortunately I say this in past tense) on front page of TL. Every boy screaming here that he is a rager/racist/unfair/bad manner/... just has to put his own stream online and try to be compared to ProTech. I don't say he is the best 2v2 player or so whatever, but he is the only one here.

When he says some of you are cheating, ok, he tries to prove it by showing replays and explaining why he thinks so. Unfortunately all the guys incriminated are not streaming, so actually we cant have a proof of the contrary.

ProTech is an entertaining stream, he is talking to the viewers, explaining stuff and so on. This is just what we need. If you don like it just go away or simply don't come here like pussies to say all these bull***ts because of your boyish frustration.
VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
November 03 2011 01:40 GMT
#443
NOTICE

Apparently the Staff has been getting a ton of responses about this issue. Can you guys please withhold from mailing them for now? Thanks. And lol good job =p
VashTS; 330; Random -- Ranked #9 Pokemon Video Game Player in the World in 2009
MiteCrow
Profile Joined June 2011
Ireland38 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-03 03:23:11
November 03 2011 02:19 GMT
#444
Sorry I have found a more appropraite thread to place my comment. If a moderator happens upon this please feel free to delete this post.
Many thanks
The only reason people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory.
bunnyhop
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2 Posts
November 03 2011 02:41 GMT
#445
Exactly how would his featured status affect you if you dislike him?
It doesn't. You don't have to watch his stream and support him if you don't want to.

You only bm him because you have some personal thing against him (being accused of streamcheating, etc.) but you won't really gain anything from it. And if you are actually cheating (I'm sure there are lots) then your posts are even less justified.
VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
November 03 2011 03:11 GMT
#446
On November 03 2011 11:19 MadeinSeptember wrote:
For what its worth I am happy to see that TeamLiquid staff are taking a look at who they have been featuring and making adjustments accordingly.

This is one case that I was very happy to see was no longer featured on this site. The racial slurs he has uttered whenever I saw his stream were unreal, not to mention the other hateful comments I have seen him utter. The way he treats people and the harrassment he gives to poeple on ladder were abysmal and then if he ever lost he would blame them for cheating and slander them in general. All in all I felt having a person performing such as this whilst being featured was a little sad to see.

I just thought I would share a few words on the matter. sorry if this was the wrong place to leave this feedback, but lots of other people already seem to be voicing their thought here already so i threw my hat in the ring.
TL staff have done well in my eyes by making this decision.
Thanks

Also. I have read many of the comments and i know he had a warning wen you would go to watch the stream about possible vulgarities and I understand that. The above text was merely a reflection of how I felt seeing behavior like that being featured on TeamLiquid. I know his stream and his conduct on it are his own business, I just thought little to see it being featured.

This was indeed the correct place to bring your concerns, so thank you. =) Well, there's only 2 main parts I would like to address, so I will do that.

1) You understand that majority of the things he says are to people that are constantly harassing him and being BM in a numbah of ways, right? Like to mannerCHOMP. As far as the "racism" goes, it's to the same group of trolls. At the ends of games, he points out mistakes of bad players, which he either goes about in a bad way or a good way (depending on both parties). It varies. It's just end-of-the-game rage upon losing, basically. Nobody takes that too seriously. And he has never, from what I've seen, actually harassed anybody outside of the troll group.

2) The way he treats people and the harrassment he gives to poeple on ladder were abysmal and then if he ever lost he would blame them for cheating and slander them in general. - This is complete bullshit. I don't know why you would even post this, as nobody in their right mind would say something like that. mannerCHOMP would, but I can only say that because he said that like 2 pages ago.
VashTS; 330; Random -- Ranked #9 Pokemon Video Game Player in the World in 2009
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
November 03 2011 03:12 GMT
#447
Glad he isn't featured anymore. Maybe that will tone down his stream cheating accusations.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-03 03:24:29
November 03 2011 03:21 GMT
#448
On November 03 2011 11:19 MadeinSeptember wrote:
Sorry I have found a more appropraite thread to place my comment. If a moderator happens upon this please feel free to delete this post.
Thanks



Never said any type of racial slur in a derogatory manner.


EDIT: And if this goes for my stream, then it should for streams such as destiny etc.
CHOMPMannER
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada175 Posts
November 03 2011 03:21 GMT
#449
On November 03 2011 12:21 ProTech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 11:19 MadeinSeptember wrote:
Sorry I have found a more appropraite thread to place my comment. If a moderator happens upon this please feel free to delete this post.
Thanks



Never said any type of racial slur in a derogatory manner.


01:50 [All] ProTech: so shut the fuck up
01:51 [All] ProTech: nigger head
http://www.ipstarcraft.com/ --iPCHOMP
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
November 03 2011 03:25 GMT
#450
On November 03 2011 12:21 CHOMPMannER wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 12:21 ProTech wrote:
On November 03 2011 11:19 MadeinSeptember wrote:
Sorry I have found a more appropraite thread to place my comment. If a moderator happens upon this please feel free to delete this post.
Thanks



Never said any type of racial slur in a derogatory manner.


01:50 [All] ProTech: so shut the fuck up
01:51 [All] ProTech: nigger head



Obviously this isn't in a derogatory manner as I never mentioned anything about a black person,


Also, to note, he's taking that completely out of context, I said that after he made me lose 5~10 games in a row simply due to his back stabbing, so it's justified.
CHOMPMannER
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada175 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-03 03:38:19
November 03 2011 03:26 GMT
#451
01:22 [All] Catalyst: with a name like
01:24 [All] Catalyst: jahre
01:26 [All] Catalyst: i can only imagine
01:32 [All] Catalyst: a skinny nerd
01:44 [All] Extrovert: and i can only imagine you going down on a guy
01:57 [All] Catalyst: do you have
01:58 [All] Catalyst: downs
01:59 [All] Catalyst: jahre?

Making fun of less fortunate people with down syndrome..

And no it was a game vs Levels not me

How can you seriously say I am taking that out of context? Any time you use the N word in hatred towards another player is derogatory. That is racism, ignorance and hatred.... Bad for promoting the starcraft 2 community, that is why you should not be featured.
http://www.ipstarcraft.com/ --iPCHOMP
hipsterHobbit
Profile Joined September 2011
United States218 Posts
November 03 2011 03:26 GMT
#452
Actually, you said it immediately after losing to me and accusing me of stream cheating (which I wasn't).
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
November 03 2011 03:44 GMT
#453
On November 03 2011 12:25 ProTech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 12:21 CHOMPMannER wrote:
On November 03 2011 12:21 ProTech wrote:
On November 03 2011 11:19 MadeinSeptember wrote:
Sorry I have found a more appropraite thread to place my comment. If a moderator happens upon this please feel free to delete this post.
Thanks



Never said any type of racial slur in a derogatory manner.


01:50 [All] ProTech: so shut the fuck up
01:51 [All] ProTech: nigger head



Obviously this isn't in a derogatory manner as I never mentioned anything about a black person,.


This is a joke, right? Racial slurs aren't derogatory as long as they're not directed at black people? There is absolutely NOTHING RACIST WHATSOEVER about calling somebody a *ahem* "nigger head"? Jeeeeez, how could anyone misinterpret your unyielding tolerance as racism?

Who fucking cares what's derogatory and what's not. Using those words isn't appropriate for you in any context. Learn a more mature vocabulary and stop making yourself look like a fool.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
RastaMonsta
Profile Joined October 2011
304 Posts
November 03 2011 03:48 GMT
#454
guys stfu, protech deserves to be featured. Hes the only 2v2er who streams constantly and gives the scene exposure.
Zidane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1685 Posts
November 03 2011 04:03 GMT
#455
On November 03 2011 12:21 CHOMPMannER wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 12:21 ProTech wrote:
On November 03 2011 11:19 MadeinSeptember wrote:
Sorry I have found a more appropraite thread to place my comment. If a moderator happens upon this please feel free to delete this post.
Thanks



Never said any type of racial slur in a derogatory manner.


01:50 [All] ProTech: so shut the fuck up
01:51 [All] ProTech: nigger head


Do you realize, that if you use it as an insult, by definition, its derogatory....
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-03 04:17:14
November 03 2011 04:12 GMT
#456
On November 03 2011 13:03 Zidane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 12:21 CHOMPMannER wrote:
On November 03 2011 12:21 ProTech wrote:
On November 03 2011 11:19 MadeinSeptember wrote:
Sorry I have found a more appropraite thread to place my comment. If a moderator happens upon this please feel free to delete this post.
Thanks



Never said any type of racial slur in a derogatory manner.


01:50 [All] ProTech: so shut the fuck up
01:51 [All] ProTech: nigger head


Do you realize, that if you use it as an insult, by definition, its derogatory....




Then let me rephrase what I said, It wasn't meant in a derogatory manner.

EDIT: and ifyou're going to attack my stream with this racial stuff, then head over to streams like destiny and attack him as well for racial slurs.
Atreides
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2393 Posts
November 03 2011 04:14 GMT
#457
Whether he is BM or not (he is but I don't mind) is pretty irrelevant to the question as quite clearly it is not a factor in whether or not TL features a stream.

I like your stream ProTech and watch often because you are on late at night and its nice to see builds for 2v2 so I can try and carry my baddy friends for fun games.

I would enjoy more commentary when you are randomteaming and not communicating with partner. That would be sick.
Mythito
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada230 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-03 04:37:04
November 03 2011 04:36 GMT
#458
On November 03 2011 12:26 CHOMPMannER wrote:
01:22 [All] Catalyst: with a name like
01:24 [All] Catalyst: jahre
01:26 [All] Catalyst: i can only imagine
01:32 [All] Catalyst: a skinny nerd
01:44 [All] Extrovert: and i can only imagine you going down on a guy
01:57 [All] Catalyst: do you have
01:58 [All] Catalyst: downs
01:59 [All] Catalyst: jahre?

Making fun of less fortunate people with down syndrome..

And no it was a game vs Levels not me

How can you seriously say I am taking that out of context? Any time you use the N word in hatred towards another player is derogatory. That is racism, ignorance and hatred.... Bad for promoting the starcraft 2 community, that is why you should not be featured.



that's exactly my point!!! this is the internet,extrovert was implying he was gay with negative connotations, this stuff is all over the internet, my post to the other guy was because he was saying you cant say nigger but you can make fun of downs syndrome. it's hypocritical.

and again, everyone is posting so much about him being so racist but they choose to skip over my arguments that it is such a minor form of racism compared to everything else that it doesn't matter at all


edit: that's a summary ^^ don't argue with it without reading my other posts and getting my view on the subject fully
Did everything just taste purple for a second?
VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
November 03 2011 04:51 GMT
#459
TL;DR

If BM really mattered, Destiny and others would have been prosecuted waaaaay before Protech. But that's not really the reason. Vendetta much?
VashTS; 330; Random -- Ranked #9 Pokemon Video Game Player in the World in 2009
oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2904 Posts
November 03 2011 05:02 GMT
#460
On November 03 2011 13:12 ProTech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 13:03 Zidane wrote:
On November 03 2011 12:21 CHOMPMannER wrote:
On November 03 2011 12:21 ProTech wrote:
On November 03 2011 11:19 MadeinSeptember wrote:
Sorry I have found a more appropraite thread to place my comment. If a moderator happens upon this please feel free to delete this post.
Thanks



Never said any type of racial slur in a derogatory manner.


01:50 [All] ProTech: so shut the fuck up
01:51 [All] ProTech: nigger head


Do you realize, that if you use it as an insult, by definition, its derogatory....




Then let me rephrase what I said, It wasn't meant in a derogatory manner.

EDIT: and ifyou're going to attack my stream with this racial stuff, then head over to streams like destiny and attack him as well for racial slurs.

Are you a monkey? Why do you always compare your actions to Destiny's?
This isn't monkey-see monkey-do.
말크 : ^_^~ NeO)GabuAt, vGODieN
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-03 05:30:28
November 03 2011 05:19 GMT
#461
calling people animals that can't think for themselves: good mannered and not rude at all. You're just implying that he is less than human. Sort of how actual racists back in the old days used nigger to refer to black people as less than human.

being realistic though: monkey is a 0/10 diss and you completely dodged what he was getting at. try agaIN

edit- actually i'd prefer it if you didn't try again, this whole thread has just went to shit and im getting tired of it
hihihi
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
November 03 2011 05:40 GMT
#462
On November 03 2011 14:02 ODieN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 13:12 ProTech wrote:
On November 03 2011 13:03 Zidane wrote:
On November 03 2011 12:21 CHOMPMannER wrote:
On November 03 2011 12:21 ProTech wrote:
On November 03 2011 11:19 MadeinSeptember wrote:
Sorry I have found a more appropraite thread to place my comment. If a moderator happens upon this please feel free to delete this post.
Thanks



Never said any type of racial slur in a derogatory manner.


01:50 [All] ProTech: so shut the fuck up
01:51 [All] ProTech: nigger head


Do you realize, that if you use it as an insult, by definition, its derogatory....




Then let me rephrase what I said, It wasn't meant in a derogatory manner.

EDIT: and ifyou're going to attack my stream with this racial stuff, then head over to streams like destiny and attack him as well for racial slurs.

Are you a monkey? Why do you always compare your actions to Destiny's?
This isn't monkey-see monkey-do.



I giggled.
W0nka
Profile Joined March 2011
United States7 Posts
November 03 2011 05:45 GMT
#463
TL, i wish protech could be featured again. He has the highest level 2v2 stream and is super consistent. Its annoying how all the people calling him bm are probably people who just dont like him or are troll stream cheaters. Please refeature this guy! he is one of the best 2v2 players in the world.
oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2904 Posts
November 03 2011 05:47 GMT
#464
On November 03 2011 14:19 askTeivospy wrote:
calling people animals that can't think for themselves: good mannered and not rude at all. You're just implying that he is less than human. Sort of how actual racists back in the old days used nigger to refer to black people as less than human.

being realistic though: monkey is a 0/10 diss and you completely dodged what he was getting at. try agaIN

edit- actually i'd prefer it if you didn't try again, this whole thread has just went to shit and im getting tired of it

Quick solution: Don't come in the thread.
Note: I didn't intend to call him a "monkey" exactly. You would clearly understand that it was a metaphor.
Relax, young grasshopper.


Try again..
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askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
November 03 2011 05:50 GMT
#465
On November 03 2011 14:47 ODieN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 14:19 askTeivospy wrote:
calling people animals that can't think for themselves: good mannered and not rude at all. You're just implying that he is less than human. Sort of how actual racists back in the old days used nigger to refer to black people as less than human.

being realistic though: monkey is a 0/10 diss and you completely dodged what he was getting at. try agaIN

edit- actually i'd prefer it if you didn't try again, this whole thread has just went to shit and im getting tired of it

Quick solution: Don't come in the thread.
Note: I didn't intend to call him a "monkey" exactly. You would clearly understand that it was a metaphor.
Relax, young grasshopper.


Try again..


nope you call him monkey and it was a 0/10 diss
hihihi
oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2904 Posts
November 03 2011 06:15 GMT
#466
On November 03 2011 14:50 askTeivospy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 14:47 ODieN wrote:
On November 03 2011 14:19 askTeivospy wrote:
calling people animals that can't think for themselves: good mannered and not rude at all. You're just implying that he is less than human. Sort of how actual racists back in the old days used nigger to refer to black people as less than human.

being realistic though: monkey is a 0/10 diss and you completely dodged what he was getting at. try agaIN

edit- actually i'd prefer it if you didn't try again, this whole thread has just went to shit and im getting tired of it

Quick solution: Don't come in the thread.
Note: I didn't intend to call him a "monkey" exactly. You would clearly understand that it was a metaphor.
Relax, young grasshopper.


Try again..


nope you call him monkey and it was a 0/10 diss

?? What on earth-
Did you not read what I just typed? Or are you purposely trying to waste my time with idiotic replies?
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Zev
Profile Joined October 2008
United States64 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-03 06:58:08
November 03 2011 06:56 GMT
#467
Idra can BM all he wants and its ok. =)
Destiny can BM all he wants and its ok. =)
Incontrol can BM all he wants and its ok. =)
Catz can BM and its ok. =)

Protech BMs and its NOT OK =(

Why does TL have 2 different standards?

Ohh, I enjoy all of the players except for Idra. His BM does offend me, I think he crosses the line.
Regime
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia185 Posts
November 03 2011 07:12 GMT
#468
Protech has more viewers than any 2v2 player. without being featured people who dont follow him may not look thru unfeatured streams and think he may not even stream anymore. the reasons nazgul gave may b legit but protech is a really good player for bronze to masters TEAM players to learn from, ppl who want to learn TEAM strats not trying to do solo strats in team games like they see on every other stream. if thats not being apart of the community look up the % of ppl who just play team games and want to learn.. BRING BACK THE PRODIZZLE.

love ProTech fanboys.
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-03 07:50:08
November 03 2011 07:32 GMT
#469
im nice ^>~
hihihi
VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
November 03 2011 07:39 GMT
#470
Alright guys, lets cut it out. Acting childish is just having a negative impact. Guys ignore the trolls, and trolls chill the fuck out. If you have a problem, PM Protech about it.
VashTS; 330; Random -- Ranked #9 Pokemon Video Game Player in the World in 2009
insomdapowahouz
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada58 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-03 08:31:01
November 03 2011 08:30 GMT
#471
just thought I'd add that anna prosser has more views streaming 4v4 than you guys do atm


User was banned for this post.
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
November 03 2011 10:34 GMT
#472
To protech fans: go to http://www.teamliquid.net/mytlnet/mystreams.php and add protech and you'll see his name under a new subgroup called Favourites

hihihi
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
November 03 2011 10:45 GMT
#473
On November 03 2011 19:34 askTeivospy wrote:
To protech fans: go to http://www.teamliquid.net/mytlnet/mystreams.php and add protech and you'll see his name under a new subgroup called Favourites



Done.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
fleischgeruch
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany5 Posts
November 03 2011 11:05 GMT
#474
done!
snejstorm
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany52 Posts
November 03 2011 13:07 GMT
#475
Nice feature. Done!
Coix
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark11 Posts
November 03 2011 16:30 GMT
#476
Done!
Coix.648 / EU
VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
November 03 2011 18:39 GMT
#477
On November 03 2011 17:30 insomdapowahouz wrote:
just thought I'd add that anna prosser has more views streaming 4v4 than you guys do atm

Why post this?
VashTS; 330; Random -- Ranked #9 Pokemon Video Game Player in the World in 2009
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
November 03 2011 19:53 GMT
#478
Ok, most of the trolls in this thread have been banned. Peace and quiet for a while. Now for a serious question, what are the usual stream times for ProTech (I'm +1 GMT)? I usually see him in the morning, which should be something like 5 am in the US. But what are the usual times the stream is on?
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
November 03 2011 20:11 GMT
#479
On November 04 2011 04:53 Ghanburighan wrote:
Ok, most of the trolls in this thread have been banned. Peace and quiet for a while. Now for a serious question, what are the usual stream times for ProTech (I'm +1 GMT)? I usually see him in the morning, which should be something like 5 am in the US. But what are the usual times the stream is on?



I'm streaming usually from 5pmEST~6amEST.
tyhaack
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1 Post
November 03 2011 20:32 GMT
#480
Protech, any thoughts on trying to join a team? I remember you mentioning that on your stream. Could that help you get featured again?
oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2904 Posts
November 03 2011 20:34 GMT
#481
In all honesty ProTech, you should try using the "timeout" feature on your channel over just an instant "ban".
Just sayin.
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ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
November 03 2011 20:47 GMT
#482
On November 04 2011 05:34 ODieN wrote:
In all honesty ProTech, you should try using the "timeout" feature on your channel over just an instant "ban".
Just sayin.


I'll be sure to take this into much consideration.
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-03 20:50:09
November 03 2011 20:49 GMT
#483
On November 04 2011 05:34 ODieN wrote:
In all honesty ProTech, you should try using the "timeout" feature on your channel over just an instant "ban".
Just sayin.


^O^ are you trying to aggravate people in here? Hasn't all been said and done and you should leave now?
hihihi
Xiron
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1233 Posts
November 03 2011 20:53 GMT
#484
The first thing I thought when I saw ProTech not being on the featured list anymore:

' Why the fuck would HayPro that hasnt accomplished really much, and has about even or less viewers than our ProTech, being one of the most accomplished 2v2 players on the entire globe, get featured while our ProTech, who is one of the most accomplished 2v2 players on the entire globe, is not. '
"The way of life can be free and beautiful. But we have lost the way. " - Charlie Chaplin
baba1
Profile Joined April 2005
Canada355 Posts
November 03 2011 21:02 GMT
#485
On November 03 2011 15:56 Zev wrote:
Idra can BM all he wants and its ok. =)
Destiny can BM all he wants and its ok. =)
Incontrol can BM all he wants and its ok. =)
Catz can BM and its ok. =)

Protech BMs and its NOT OK =(

Why does TL have 2 different standards?

Ohh, I enjoy all of the players except for Idra. His BM does offend me, I think he crosses the line.


This is so true.
As much as I love Catz, he can get hammered on his stream and make death threats to Deezer and it's all good because he's drunk and it's Deezer.

Destiny can get away with pretty much whatever he wants on his stream for some reason.

But then Protech says the N word and all of a sudden what's being said on the internet IS SUCH A BIG DEAL. Why?

This is sad.
noq uote
Mythito
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada230 Posts
November 03 2011 21:37 GMT
#486
On November 04 2011 05:49 askTeivospy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 05:34 ODieN wrote:
In all honesty ProTech, you should try using the "timeout" feature on your channel over just an instant "ban".
Just sayin.


^O^ are you trying to aggravate people in here? Hasn't all been said and done and you should leave now?



i actually think that post was perfectly reasonable criticism.
Did everything just taste purple for a second?
schI2ler
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
129 Posts
November 03 2011 22:02 GMT
#487
i want pr0tech to be featured again. I always enjoyed his cast, and if we say sc2 is not just only 1v1 than we should have the probably best 2v2 player as featured. If 2v2 doesnt have 10k viewers, it will never have them, if we don't give it a spotlight.
"oh i'm so smatr"
Chocobo
Profile Joined November 2006
United States1108 Posts
November 03 2011 22:08 GMT
#488
On November 04 2011 07:02 schI2ler wrote:
i want pr0tech to be featured again. I always enjoyed his cast, and if we say sc2 is not just only 1v1 than we should have the probably best 2v2 player as featured. If 2v2 doesnt have 10k viewers, it will never have them, if we don't give it a spotlight.

Agreed. ProTech is the most accomplished 2v2 player in the world. I mean yeah it's only 2v2 and all... but that should still count for something.

And it makes no sense at all to lower his status because of simple BM that's half done just to entertain the viewers, when others players do it often without any negative consequences.
Flaunt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
New Zealand784 Posts
November 03 2011 22:09 GMT
#489
does protech play 2s on korea ?
What? You seek something? You wish to multiply yourself tenfold, a hundredfold? You seek followers? Seek zeros!
Noro
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada991 Posts
November 03 2011 22:20 GMT
#490
TL! why u stop featuring?? Get back on that.
Talk not to me of blasphemy, man; I'd strike the sun if it insulted me.
Wheelyman
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada53 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-03 22:32:57
November 03 2011 22:30 GMT
#491
On November 04 2011 05:53 Xiron wrote:
The first thing I thought when I saw ProTech not being on the featured list anymore:

' Why the fuck would HayPro that hasnt accomplished really much, and has about even or less viewers than our ProTech, being one of the most accomplished 2v2 players on the entire globe, get featured while our ProTech, who is one of the most accomplished 2v2 players on the entire globe, is not. '


Maybe because Haypro is Liquid`Haypro? o.O

Edit : The change of attitude will be much much much appreciated. I might stop by from time to time cuz I really enjoy 2v2s. I got banned a WHILE ago on your sream because I simply disagreed with you ProTech. The timeout over the ban will help a lot with the rage bans. Anyways, good luck with the stream.
JustTray
Profile Joined May 2011
127 Posts
November 03 2011 22:43 GMT
#492
Protech is the top 2v2 player in the world.

He calls players out on cheating and supports it with evidence. Some of the people he has called out are TL regulars/veterans.

Each time it just gets swept under the rug. Deezer (by proxy of Lone), Lone, Sorcery, etc amongst others.

Sorcery even straight up admitted cheating, still cheats on ladder every day, and yet Protech is the BM and uncredible one.

This entire situation is very telling of the mods and community of TL. Bad manner troll-kids who power trip whenever possible.
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
November 03 2011 22:56 GMT
#493
On November 04 2011 07:09 Flaunt wrote:
does protech play 2s on korea ?



No, I played on EU, but I couldnt stand the lag. I hear it's 10x worse in KR, otherwise I would.
Alaz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
108 Posts
November 03 2011 22:57 GMT
#494
thank god, no more horrible attitude and double/triple commericialing his 10 viewers


ahahah, serves him right
Coix
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark11 Posts
November 03 2011 23:05 GMT
#495
ProTech have imo always been mannered, compared to many of the other streamers.

Yeah, sometimes he does 2-3 commercials in a row... But when he is in queue for 10-20 min then who cares!?

ProTech re-featured please!
Coix.648 / EU
snejstorm
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany52 Posts
November 03 2011 23:06 GMT
#496
On November 04 2011 07:57 Alaz wrote:
thank god, no more horrible attitude and double/triple commericialing his 10 viewers


ahahah, serves him right

Unbelievable. As if Protech was the only guy serving 2-3 ads after a game...
Mythito
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada230 Posts
November 03 2011 23:12 GMT
#497
On November 04 2011 08:06 snejstorm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 07:57 Alaz wrote:
thank god, no more horrible attitude and double/triple commericialing his 10 viewers


ahahah, serves him right

Unbelievable. As if Protech was the only guy serving 2-3 ads after a game...


yeah but if Alaz's favourite streamer did it he would be happy that they were making some money, not complaining about it
Did everything just taste purple for a second?
vitHamin
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria8 Posts
November 03 2011 23:14 GMT
#498
I really enjoy his stream, he shows us some of the best 2v2 out there!
taylor-
Profile Joined September 2011
Finland3 Posts
November 03 2011 23:25 GMT
#499
i really enjoy watching protechs stream.

keep up the good work Protech!
DING DONG ANYONE HOME? LOL
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6170 Posts
November 03 2011 23:33 GMT
#500
I sometime doesn't like protech attitude when he get beat or when he completely rape another team but in general, it's ok.

When I play against or with in (in random team) he is ok.


Not sure if he should be featured but I do like to watch his stream time when he play AT with bandy or Power.
n_n
Azide
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada566 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-03 23:45:55
November 03 2011 23:45 GMT
#501
On November 04 2011 08:14 vitHamin wrote:
I really enjoy his stream, he shows us some of the best 2v2 out there!



clever
Azide and SuperNinja - Best Double Protoss 2v2 Team!
VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
November 03 2011 23:54 GMT
#502
On November 04 2011 08:45 Azide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 08:14 vitHamin wrote:
I really enjoy his stream, he shows us some of the best 2v2 out there!



clever

ohhhhhhhh you lucky you changed your post. I saw what you said before. -_-

If you're gonna be BM, at least be constructive. There's no reason to be a douche.
VashTS; 330; Random -- Ranked #9 Pokemon Video Game Player in the World in 2009
Zealo
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia40 Posts
November 04 2011 00:54 GMT
#503
On October 16 2011 07:37 ProTech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2011 13:06 Zealo wrote:
my favourite stream by far, watching protech has made 2v2 my favourite format. huge respect for this guy.

is there anywhere to see the vods of PTSL2 games with powertech voice chat?



protechsc2.com

can only find vods with commentators (which i watched live, thinking i would be able to find vods with player chat afterwards) can't with you and power team chat like the vods of destiny and minigun. oh well was still fun to watch


took me a few days before i realised not featured any more, i mostly come to TL just to check if protech is streaming and thought he wasn't cause it wasn't on featured list. kinda ridiculous when there are people with less viewers despite being featured not doing anything special as far as i can tell.

most of the criticism from the three or four obsessed losers in this thread is bullshit from what i've seen in many hours watching and if TL staff are actually giving their opinions any weight i'll be disappointed.

i've always regarded TL as one of the best moderated communities on the web. why the hell have no mods taken any action in this thread? :S
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44184 Posts
November 04 2011 00:55 GMT
#504
On November 04 2011 08:33 FaCE_1 wrote:
I sometime doesn't like protech attitude when he get beat or when he completely rape another team but in general, it's ok.

When I play against or with in (in random team) he is ok.


Not sure if he should be featured but I do like to watch his stream time when he play AT with bandy or Power.


Gotta agree with this. He's definitely a great 2v2 player, but it's kind of sad when he occasionally loses and immediately accuses his opponents of *obviously stream cheating*. He's not perfect.

He just lost to my younger brother (SCMango) in a 2v2 game (and they've played against each other many times in the past, aren't very fond of each other, and they've each won and lost a whole lot of times), and I know for a fact that my younger brother doesn't stream cheat. Hell, I just sat next to my brother as he stomped on ProTech this time around. And yet ProTech has no problem accusing him (among others) of cheating without having any reason to (and without even checking the replay). I guess it's his defense mechanism.

I do love his background music, and he's still a great 2v2 player. But he needs to learn to take a loss.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
November 04 2011 00:57 GMT
#505
On November 04 2011 09:55 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 08:33 FaCE_1 wrote:
I sometime doesn't like protech attitude when he get beat or when he completely rape another team but in general, it's ok.

When I play against or with in (in random team) he is ok.


Not sure if he should be featured but I do like to watch his stream time when he play AT with bandy or Power.


Gotta agree with this. He's definitely a great 2v2 player, but it's kind of sad when he occasionally loses and immediately accuses his opponents of *obviously stream cheating*. He's not perfect.

He just lost to my younger brother (SCMango) in a 2v2 game (and they've played against each other many times in the past, aren't very fond of each other, and they've each won and lost a whole lot of times), and I know for a fact that my younger brother doesn't stream cheat. Hell, I just sat next to my brother as he stomped on ProTech this time around. And yet ProTech has no problem accusing him (among others) of cheating without having any reason to (and without even checking the replay). I guess it's his defense mechanism.

I do love his background music, and he's still a great 2v2 player. But he needs to learn to take a loss.



He was in my stream, while playing me. It's pretty obvious.
Zealo
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia40 Posts
November 04 2011 01:01 GMT
#506
On November 04 2011 09:55 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:

He just lost to my younger brother (SCMango) in a 2v2 game (and they've played against each other many times in the past, aren't very fond of each other, and they've each won and lost a whole lot of times), and I know for a fact that my younger brother doesn't stream cheat. Hell, I just sat next to my brother as he stomped on ProTech this time around. And yet ProTech has no problem accusing him (among others) of cheating without having any reason to (and without even checking the replay). I guess it's his defense mechanism.

i love the way there are so many people saying "protech accused me of stream cheating in front of all his viewers when i wasn't!" when they would have no way of knowing that if they weren't in his stream at the time.
xiver
Profile Joined August 2010
Serbia18 Posts
November 04 2011 01:07 GMT
#507
but their friends and family watch stream while they playing, isn't that obvious?!
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44184 Posts
November 04 2011 01:07 GMT
#508
On November 04 2011 09:57 ProTech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 09:55 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On November 04 2011 08:33 FaCE_1 wrote:
I sometime doesn't like protech attitude when he get beat or when he completely rape another team but in general, it's ok.

When I play against or with in (in random team) he is ok.


Not sure if he should be featured but I do like to watch his stream time when he play AT with bandy or Power.


Gotta agree with this. He's definitely a great 2v2 player, but it's kind of sad when he occasionally loses and immediately accuses his opponents of *obviously stream cheating*. He's not perfect.

He just lost to my younger brother (SCMango) in a 2v2 game (and they've played against each other many times in the past, aren't very fond of each other, and they've each won and lost a whole lot of times), and I know for a fact that my younger brother doesn't stream cheat. Hell, I just sat next to my brother as he stomped on ProTech this time around. And yet ProTech has no problem accusing him (among others) of cheating without having any reason to (and without even checking the replay). I guess it's his defense mechanism.

I do love his background music, and he's still a great 2v2 player. But he needs to learn to take a loss.



He was in my stream, while playing me. It's pretty obvious.


That's just plain incorrect. A few minutes after the game, we checked TL to see if you were streaming, and you happened to be, so we popped in for a minute, but that was well after the game had ended. If you think he has time to chat on your stream while cannon rushing you and then playing a macro game, you're sadly mistaken.
We only popped into your stream afterwards because he thought you'd be angry at the loss (and you were- you accused him of stream cheating), and we wanted to see if you would check the replay (you didn't). Obviously, you just felt like making accusations for no reason.
I'm just not particularly happy that you accuse people of cheating when you lose. You're a good player, but that's a very sad way of making excuses in my opinion.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-04 01:12:19
November 04 2011 01:09 GMT
#509
[QUOTE]On November 04 2011 10:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 04 2011 09:57 ProTech wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 04 2011 09:55 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 04 2011 08:33 FaCE_1 wrote:
I sometime doesn't like protech attitude when he get beat or when he completely rape another team but in general, it's ok.

When I play against or with in (in random team) he is ok.


Not sure if he should be featured but I do like to watch his stream time when he play AT with bandy or Power.[/QUOTE]

Gotta agree with this. He's definitely a great 2v2 player, but it's kind of sad when he occasionally loses and immediately accuses his opponents of *obviously stream cheating*. He's not perfect.

He just lost to my younger brother (SCMango) in a 2v2 game (and they've played against each other many times in the past, aren't very fond of each other, and they've each won and lost a whole lot of times), and I know for a fact that my younger brother doesn't stream cheat. Hell, I just sat next to my brother as he stomped on ProTech this time around. And yet ProTech has no problem accusing him (among others) of cheating without having any reason to (and without even checking the replay). I guess it's his defense mechanism.

I do love his background music, and he's still a great 2v2 player. But he needs to learn to take a loss. [/QUOTE]


He was in my stream, while playing me. It's pretty obvious.[/QUOTE]




Gotcha, well if you think that, then you think that. I'll think the way I think. It's not going to change anything.
EDIT: I've shown my stream how mango has stream cheated in the past, there's no reason for me to waste my time doing it
hipsterHobbit
Profile Joined September 2011
United States218 Posts
November 04 2011 01:20 GMT
#510
LMAO no reason for you to waste your time doing it when just accusing people is way easier.

You've "shown", but what you fail to do is prove, because proving someone is stream cheating is nigh impossible. So why don't you just shut the fuck up about it forever? For everyone?

As you know, it's a risk you take when you stream, but for the rest of us that queue up 2v2 and have to play you it SHOULDN'T be a risk we take for whooping your ass to get falsely accused. Can't ever give credit where it's due, unless it's to yourself of course.

Man up you fkn pansy.
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
November 04 2011 01:25 GMT
#511
On November 04 2011 10:20 hipsterHobbit wrote:
LMAO no reason for you to waste your time doing it when just accusing people is way easier.

You've "shown", but what you fail to do is prove, because proving someone is stream cheating is nigh impossible. So why don't you just shut the fuck up about it forever? For everyone?

As you know, it's a risk you take when you stream, but for the rest of us that queue up 2v2 and have to play you it SHOULDN'T be a risk we take for whooping your ass to get falsely accused. Can't ever give credit where it's due, unless it's to yourself of course.

Man up you fkn pansy.



I have taken your post into consideration. Ive thought about it in the past too. I've said on my stream that it's a risk that all of us streamers as we cannot put a delay on our streams at the exact moment due to the multistream bug but rest assured once that's possible it's going up, delay will be about 5 mins to negate all the accusations.

That being said, until then i'm not just gonna be like " I just lost that because they were better. " when for 1) i've already proven that they stream cheat, or 2) it was blatantly obvious. This is just the way it's going to be.

I've also said many times that if you just come up front about it, then I have no reason to bitch about it as it is a risk all of us streamers take. But just beacuse my stream was taken off the featured list, that doesn't mean i'm not going to let my crowd know when it happens, it's as simple as that.

I'm not going to be bad mannered about, but im still going to point it out, period.
hipsterHobbit
Profile Joined September 2011
United States218 Posts
November 04 2011 01:35 GMT
#512
Okay, so you're never going to man up. All I see there is more excuses.

It's not about you, it's about the people you falsely accuse.

Your ego obviously disallows you to recognize the predicament faced by those who have had wins "de-legitimized" to an extent because of your false accusations.

"He was probably listening to my stream, because I said if he opened forge I wouldn't make lings". more false accusations, I turned your stream on after the game just so I could hear the fact that you're still spouting false bullshit about people YOU don't like because they know how to beat you. My ally attacked me with his drones at the start of that game anyways, but you of course don't even look at the economy tab or anything before spouting off false accusations.

Some things never change, ExcuseTech.
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
November 04 2011 01:37 GMT
#513
On November 04 2011 10:35 hipsterHobbit wrote:
Okay, so you're never going to man up. All I see there is more excuses.

It's not about you, it's about the people you falsely accuse.

Your ego obviously disallows you to recognize the predicament faced by those who have had wins "de-legitimized" to an extent because of your false accusations.

"He was probably listening to my stream, because I said if he opened forge I wouldn't make lings". more false accusations, I turned your stream on after the game just so I could hear the fact that you're still spouting false bullshit about people YOU don't like because they know how to beat you. My ally attacked me with his drones at the start of that game anyways, but you of course don't even look at the economy tab or anything before spouting off false accusations.

Some things never change, ExcuseTech.


You are entitled to you opinion. You are not being forced to watch my stream, if you not happy with the content, then don't watch it.
VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
November 04 2011 01:39 GMT
#514
On November 04 2011 10:20 hipsterHobbit wrote:
LMAO no reason for you to waste your time doing it when just accusing people is way easier.

You've "shown", but what you fail to do is prove, because proving someone is stream cheating is nigh impossible. So why don't you just shut the fuck up about it forever? For everyone?

As you know, it's a risk you take when you stream, but for the rest of us that queue up 2v2 and have to play you it SHOULDN'T be a risk we take for whooping your ass to get falsely accused. Can't ever give credit where it's due, unless it's to yourself of course.

Man up you fkn pansy.

Nice attitude. kid.
VashTS; 330; Random -- Ranked #9 Pokemon Video Game Player in the World in 2009
hipsterHobbit
Profile Joined September 2011
United States218 Posts
November 04 2011 01:42 GMT
#515
Defamation of character (slander) is against the law. It's a game, nobody is going to press charges, but why don't you have some fucking decency and sportsmanship in lieu of that fact?
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
November 04 2011 01:42 GMT
#516
One other thing I would like to point out, is that it's impossible to actually prove someone is stream cheating. There is simply no way to know if it's happening, and if I accuse you of it, and you weren't then I apologize. Either way, in some cases its pretty obvious, but it's not 100% fact that they were. Again, I have my opinions as to what I think happened, that's all.
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
November 04 2011 01:57 GMT
#517
On November 04 2011 10:42 hipsterHobbit wrote:
Defamation of character (slander) is against the law. It's a game, nobody is going to press charges, but why don't you have some fucking decency and sportsmanship in lieu of that fact?



I do.
hipsterHobbit
Profile Joined September 2011
United States218 Posts
November 04 2011 02:15 GMT
#518
And I shit a gold brick every morning.
MaV_gGSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1345 Posts
November 04 2011 02:16 GMT
#519
sick strats broski :D
Life's good :D
SlimeBagly
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
356 Posts
November 04 2011 02:20 GMT
#520
On November 04 2011 10:42 hipsterHobbit wrote:
Defamation of character (slander) is against the law. It's a game, nobody is going to press charges, but why don't you have some fucking decency and sportsmanship in lieu of that fact?


I would love to see someone press charges over being called a stream cheater. I'll pitch in on the legal fees.
mutalisks are awesome!
rhs408
Profile Joined January 2011
United States904 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-04 02:41:52
November 04 2011 02:27 GMT
#521
On November 03 2011 03:53 CHOMPMannER wrote:
lol thanks, im pretty sure im here to stay though

Hope the door didn't hit you in the ass on the way out mr. masters player

rofl u actually thought u were gm level

that was a bit cruel of Blizz though (error in gm league, people got in who shouldn't have)... the sound of all the egos that were shattered was deafening


Sorry to see that you got de-featured ProTech, but it looks like it has already had a positive effect on yourself and your stream in general. Sometimes it is very difficult to admit to yourself and realize that you could be going about things in a better way, hopefully this serves as a wake up call and turning point for you, your stream, and your potential contribution to the 2v2 community/player base.
Azide
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada566 Posts
November 04 2011 02:44 GMT
#522
On November 04 2011 08:54 VashTS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 08:45 Azide wrote:
On November 04 2011 08:14 vitHamin wrote:
I really enjoy his stream, he shows us some of the best 2v2 out there!



clever

ohhhhhhhh you lucky you changed your post. I saw what you said before. -_-

If you're gonna be BM, at least be constructive. There's no reason to be a douche.



i guess you didn't realize his account name and # of posts... i wasnt being BM
Azide and SuperNinja - Best Double Protoss 2v2 Team!
iiGreetings
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada563 Posts
November 04 2011 03:00 GMT
#523
To be fair, so many 2v2 players at high levels stream cheat so i see why he accuses because he is still probably right 80% of the time.
Adapt and React I MKP, PartinG, EffOrt ♥
hipsterHobbit
Profile Joined September 2011
United States218 Posts
November 04 2011 03:06 GMT
#524
You're gonna need a better source than Protech if you're gonna spew that bullshit. LMAO

And even if he is right 80% of the time, does that make the injustice of being slandered served to the 20% who were wrongly accused fair?
Selendiis
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden7 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-04 03:43:10
November 04 2011 03:40 GMT
#525
Kenny is right now studying at the library.. fucking Einstein. And yes im stalking him .
Compared to Protech he is working on his intelligence. Even tho Kenny have a brain to think with.. and Protech not o_o
Im gonna slip in my DT undetected and hit your GG spot
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
November 04 2011 04:07 GMT
#526
reposting cause spam:

To protech fans: go to http://www.teamliquid.net/mytlnet/mystreams.php and add protech and you'll see his name under a new subgroup called Favourites

hihihi
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
November 04 2011 12:32 GMT
#527
Alright guys, this thread is filled with garbage, so let's stop using this thread and head on over to the fan club thread. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282409 TY for all the support you guys have given me, and I will with out a doubt continue to provide high level 2v2ing for you.
vitHamin
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria8 Posts
November 04 2011 12:39 GMT
#528
On November 04 2011 11:44 Azide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 08:54 VashTS wrote:
On November 04 2011 08:45 Azide wrote:
On November 04 2011 08:14 vitHamin wrote:
I really enjoy his stream, he shows us some of the best 2v2 out there!



clever

ohhhhhhhh you lucky you changed your post. I saw what you said before. -_-

If you're gonna be BM, at least be constructive. There's no reason to be a douche.



i guess you didn't realize his account name and # of posts... i wasnt being BM



I'm not vitamin if you think that...
RastaMonsta
Profile Joined October 2011
304 Posts
November 04 2011 16:31 GMT
#529
lol MANNERCHOMP weres ur shit talk about u bein in GM? yea master league scrub
VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
November 04 2011 23:24 GMT
#530
On November 05 2011 01:31 RastaMonsta wrote:
lol MANNERCHOMP weres ur shit talk about u bein in GM? yea master league scrub

He knew he wasn't actually in GM (unless he is that big of an idiot, which I still do not believe he is), he was just talking more shit, trying to be above ProTech in whatever way he could.
VashTS; 330; Random -- Ranked #9 Pokemon Video Game Player in the World in 2009
VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
November 05 2011 00:57 GMT
#531
Also, Protech now streaming!

http://www.twitch.tv/protech
VashTS; 330; Random -- Ranked #9 Pokemon Video Game Player in the World in 2009
VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
November 05 2011 06:27 GMT
#532
Protech is COMMENTATING now. ;D

Come learn. Or troll.
VashTS; 330; Random -- Ranked #9 Pokemon Video Game Player in the World in 2009
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
November 07 2011 03:30 GMT
#533
http://www.justin.tv/protech online now
Daihawk
Profile Joined November 2011
Australia3 Posts
November 07 2011 03:46 GMT
#534
are you saying that all I have to do is is click on live streams, and scroll down to Protech to see some high level 2v2 action? wow, the world we live in....
Bazzyrick
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom361 Posts
November 07 2011 09:02 GMT
#535
Protech is currently 2v2'ing with Power aka Destructive. The boss he tore through the PTSL 2 with, to win first place.

Tune in, watching these 2 is absolute slaughter.

http://www.twitch.tv/protech
You exist because we allow it and you will end because we demand it.
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
November 07 2011 23:37 GMT
#536
http://www.justin.tv/protech live
VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
November 08 2011 01:00 GMT
#537
Streaming again ^^
VashTS; 330; Random -- Ranked #9 Pokemon Video Game Player in the World in 2009
VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
November 09 2011 03:19 GMT
#538
ProTech is streaming again!
VashTS; 330; Random -- Ranked #9 Pokemon Video Game Player in the World in 2009
thygenesis
Profile Joined November 2009
United States14 Posts
November 12 2011 07:32 GMT
#539
Not sure why he wears the same beanie, but I approve his music taste.
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
November 12 2011 19:19 GMT
#540
I'm live. Non-Featured list peeps
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
November 15 2011 02:04 GMT
#541
pro, sign up for the zeek tournament tonight. two korean teams going up. want to see you vs them.
Makica
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada180 Posts
November 15 2011 18:46 GMT
#542
On November 02 2011 15:26 VashTS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 03:07 Makica wrote:
I didn't say he accuses everyone of stream cheating. I said he disparages everyone he loses to in different ways.


Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 03:07 Makica wrote:
Any team he loses to he accuses of stream cheating, doing some unfair strategy, etc and goes on a tirade about how bad they are.

That's you saying you didn't say x, and then you saying x just previously. =/


No,

This is me giving a list of the different things he does. I wasn't obviously clear enough with my English I'll admit that, the "etc" indicates a lazy response, but I didn't expect somebody who is clearly a stream moderator or friend of protech's to come try really hard and bold and underline my text to attempt to discredit my post for his benefit. Most people would understand it.

If you are still confused I'll make it easy. "He does x, y or z, etc if he loses". So when I say "he doesn't always do x" do you understand now?

The stream quality went up a day after he was defeatured, with some "ggs" given and an attempt at unbiased discussion and less people got banned on the stream. However, this fell back down again drastically a day later to where it is now and has been for a long time. If 2 GM solo players who got 2nd in the z33k 2v2 tourney are considered "just bad" and "bad" , "really bad", I dunno what to say.
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-16 07:00:34
November 16 2011 06:44 GMT
#543
On November 16 2011 03:46 Makica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 15:26 VashTS wrote:
On November 02 2011 03:07 Makica wrote:
I didn't say he accuses everyone of stream cheating. I said he disparages everyone he loses to in different ways.


On November 02 2011 03:07 Makica wrote:
Any team he loses to he accuses of stream cheating, doing some unfair strategy, etc and goes on a tirade about how bad they are.

That's you saying you didn't say x, and then you saying x just previously. =/


No,

This is me giving a list of the different things he does. I wasn't obviously clear enough with my English I'll admit that, the "etc" indicates a lazy response, but I didn't expect somebody who is clearly a stream moderator or friend of protech's to come try really hard and bold and underline my text to attempt to discredit my post for his benefit. Most people would understand it.

If you are still confused I'll make it easy. "He does x, y or z, etc if he loses". So when I say "he doesn't always do x" do you understand now?

The stream quality went up a day after he was defeatured, with some "ggs" given and an attempt at unbiased discussion and less people got banned on the stream. However, this fell back down again drastically a day later to where it is now and has been for a long time. If 2 GM solo players who got 2nd in the z33k 2v2 tourney are considered "just bad" and "bad" , "really bad", I dunno what to say.


Vash isn't moderator he doesn't have what it takes to moderate the endless amount of retards that deserved bans for being completely offensive towards broadcaster / stream people in general. ie people that come in spouting hate and come here and act all good mannered because now they're on a missION but in secret PM's they're still all rude and obnoxious since they're cowardZ, or the millions of mannerchoMP alts that i've had to personally deal with

Anyways dude i don't see how its "back to the same level like it has been for a long time" in terms of banning people when its been much much more slack seeing as viewers dropped down 1/3 from average (300 to 100 from what I've seen) and I haven't had to ban anyone other than the occasional bot. even that is an exaggeration since I haven't banned any bot

Are you part of the vocal minority of SC2 community that likes to criticize people over pointless things/fabrications for no reason other than to get their voices heard over an anonymous medium?

I think you mIgHT bE
hihihi
Gandalf
Profile Joined August 2004
Pakistan1905 Posts
November 16 2011 20:17 GMT
#544
I randomly turned on his stream last night to see him talking shit about TLnet, Idra, and the z33k 2v2 tournament and its participants. He's always been incredibly bm though, since his BGH days, so I don't find this surprising at all.
VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
November 16 2011 20:31 GMT
#545
On November 16 2011 03:46 Makica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 15:26 VashTS wrote:
On November 02 2011 03:07 Makica wrote:
I didn't say he accuses everyone of stream cheating. I said he disparages everyone he loses to in different ways.


On November 02 2011 03:07 Makica wrote:
Any team he loses to he accuses of stream cheating, doing some unfair strategy, etc and goes on a tirade about how bad they are.

That's you saying you didn't say x, and then you saying x just previously. =/


No,

This is me giving a list of the different things he does. I wasn't obviously clear enough with my English I'll admit that, the "etc" indicates a lazy response, but I didn't expect somebody who is clearly a stream moderator or friend of protech's to come try really hard and bold and underline my text to attempt to discredit my post for his benefit. Most people would understand it.

If you are still confused I'll make it easy. "He does x, y or z, etc if he loses". So when I say "he doesn't always do x" do you understand now?

The stream quality went up a day after he was defeatured, with some "ggs" given and an attempt at unbiased discussion and less people got banned on the stream. However, this fell back down again drastically a day later to where it is now and has been for a long time. If 2 GM solo players who got 2nd in the z33k 2v2 tourney are considered "just bad" and "bad" , "really bad", I dunno what to say.


Ah, my mistake then. But no, I'm not a mod or anything, sorry to disappoint ^^

He's had moments where he's been manner and BM always, just like most people, but bias only allows some people to see that "he BMs EVERYBODY after EVERY game" and other similar claims. It is true, however, that he has been trying to be more manner as of late. As for the drastic drop in quality, I haven't seen it, so I can't say anything one way or the other.
On November 16 2011 15:44 askTeivospy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 03:46 Makica wrote:
On November 02 2011 15:26 VashTS wrote:
On November 02 2011 03:07 Makica wrote:
I didn't say he accuses everyone of stream cheating. I said he disparages everyone he loses to in different ways.


On November 02 2011 03:07 Makica wrote:
Any team he loses to he accuses of stream cheating, doing some unfair strategy, etc and goes on a tirade about how bad they are.

That's you saying you didn't say x, and then you saying x just previously. =/


No,

This is me giving a list of the different things he does. I wasn't obviously clear enough with my English I'll admit that, the "etc" indicates a lazy response, but I didn't expect somebody who is clearly a stream moderator or friend of protech's to come try really hard and bold and underline my text to attempt to discredit my post for his benefit. Most people would understand it.

If you are still confused I'll make it easy. "He does x, y or z, etc if he loses". So when I say "he doesn't always do x" do you understand now?

The stream quality went up a day after he was defeatured, with some "ggs" given and an attempt at unbiased discussion and less people got banned on the stream. However, this fell back down again drastically a day later to where it is now and has been for a long time. If 2 GM solo players who got 2nd in the z33k 2v2 tourney are considered "just bad" and "bad" , "really bad", I dunno what to say.


Vash isn't moderator he doesn't have what it takes to moderate the endless amount of retards that deserved bans for being completely offensive towards broadcaster / stream people in general.

Pssh, my ass. I've spent many combined years as an Admin/Mod doing that sort of stuff. The lack of credit disturbs me. </3 =(
VashTS; 330; Random -- Ranked #9 Pokemon Video Game Player in the World in 2009
VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
November 17 2011 21:05 GMT
#546
Streaming again ^^

http://www.twitch.tv/protech
VashTS; 330; Random -- Ranked #9 Pokemon Video Game Player in the World in 2009
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
December 01 2011 19:22 GMT
#547
hello, im doing viewer day. so for anyone interested in playing 2v2s with me, head over to my stream www.twitch.tv/protech
VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
December 01 2011 21:09 GMT
#548
Protech is doing 2v2 viewer games today! If you want to join in, hop on SC2 (NA Server) and join the chat channel "Protech" and he will randomly select ANY player from the channel! LEAGUE DOES NOT MATTER!
VashTS; 330; Random -- Ranked #9 Pokemon Video Game Player in the World in 2009
Caliber
Profile Joined August 2010
United States598 Posts
December 07 2011 03:20 GMT
#549
pretty upset about our games and how you BM you were and how you are saying my teammate and I are hacking constantly on your stream.
SiN]
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States540 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 03:26:27
December 07 2011 03:24 GMT
#550
man fuck those map hackers for real
cant believe they went 13 gate in response to a 10 pool
so not standard
god

side question: did u play fastest in broodwar? or maybe some dota
KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
December 07 2011 03:30 GMT
#551
Although I've never paid any attention to 2v2 at all even I've heard of you before protech. Usually that would imply I have some respect for you.
But you're flaming my friends for being maphackers/stream cheaters like they even need to cheat to beat someone of your skill.

As a sort of representative of the 2v2 scene I wish you would act more professionally. Maybe people would take 2v2 more seriously if figures like you would be more mature. I know I've enjoyed a lot of 2v2s in the EG Masters Cup and I hope it can grow.

A shame.
@KawaiiRiceLighT
VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
December 07 2011 09:01 GMT
#552
So basically, your mad because of things your friends say, even though you don't actually know him...?

What is this, high school? Come on, man.
VashTS; 330; Random -- Ranked #9 Pokemon Video Game Player in the World in 2009
Seiferz
Profile Joined May 2011
United States640 Posts
January 04 2012 11:10 GMT
#553
really interesting stream, especially now that hes 1v1ing more
brxnd0n
Profile Joined September 2010
United States42 Posts
January 06 2012 05:47 GMT
#554
where u at mikeeeeeeeee
abyssGaming
Agile
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada32 Posts
February 07 2012 19:20 GMT
#555
i'm sorry but I have to wonder why is this stream featured again? what happened to TL's whole criteria for actual skilled players to be featured and not just girls and people playing team games?
poop
VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
February 07 2012 19:24 GMT
#556
On February 08 2012 04:20 dagile wrote:
i'm sorry but I have to wonder why is this stream featured again? what happened to TL's whole criteria for actual skilled players to be featured and not just girls and people playing team games?

What a bad post.
VashTS; 330; Random -- Ranked #9 Pokemon Video Game Player in the World in 2009
LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
February 07 2012 19:25 GMT
#557
On February 08 2012 04:20 dagile wrote:
i'm sorry but I have to wonder why is this stream featured again? what happened to TL's whole criteria for actual skilled players to be featured and not just girls and people playing team games?


yea i agree im not quite sure why. I mean random teaming is nice and all but there are a handful of streamers who stream just as much who are far above and beyond in skill at 1v1
JD, need I say more? :D
VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
February 07 2012 19:35 GMT
#558
On February 08 2012 04:25 BloodThirsty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 04:20 dagile wrote:
i'm sorry but I have to wonder why is this stream featured again? what happened to TL's whole criteria for actual skilled players to be featured and not just girls and people playing team games?


yea i agree im not quite sure why. I mean random teaming is nice and all but there are a handful of streamers who stream just as much who are far above and beyond in skill at 1v1


I don't understand why people come into a FAN CLUB to bitch and moan. Nothing else better to do than be a hater?
VashTS; 330; Random -- Ranked #9 Pokemon Video Game Player in the World in 2009
Azide
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada566 Posts
February 07 2012 19:39 GMT
#559
On February 08 2012 04:35 VashTS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 04:25 BloodThirsty wrote:
On February 08 2012 04:20 dagile wrote:
i'm sorry but I have to wonder why is this stream featured again? what happened to TL's whole criteria for actual skilled players to be featured and not just girls and people playing team games?


yea i agree im not quite sure why. I mean random teaming is nice and all but there are a handful of streamers who stream just as much who are far above and beyond in skill at 1v1


I don't understand why people come into a FAN CLUB to bitch and moan. Nothing else better to do than be a hater?


Fan club? This looks like a stream thread lol regardless of the quality of their posts, it seems the right place to raise concerns
Azide and SuperNinja - Best Double Protoss 2v2 Team!
Xiron
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1233 Posts
February 07 2012 19:44 GMT
#560
On February 08 2012 04:35 VashTS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 04:25 BloodThirsty wrote:
On February 08 2012 04:20 dagile wrote:
i'm sorry but I have to wonder why is this stream featured again? what happened to TL's whole criteria for actual skilled players to be featured and not just girls and people playing team games?


yea i agree im not quite sure why. I mean random teaming is nice and all but there are a handful of streamers who stream just as much who are far above and beyond in skill at 1v1


I don't understand why people come into a FAN CLUB to bitch and moan. Nothing else better to do than be a hater?


The criteria are:

1. High skill level / tournament results -
Being winner of various 2v2 tournaments thoughout the entirety of SC2 makes him an accomplished player

2. High average viewer count -
Having a constant of around 200 viewers while not being featured is a high average viewer count, comparable to some of the koreans.

3. Notability / contribution -
Being almost the only high level 2v2 player that streams makes him notable.

4. Activity -
Streaming 12 hours a day, everyday, no need to say more
"The way of life can be free and beautiful. But we have lost the way. " - Charlie Chaplin
VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
February 07 2012 20:13 GMT
#561
Oops, totally not the fan club.


And why be concerned? He's been tested and passed.
VashTS; 330; Random -- Ranked #9 Pokemon Video Game Player in the World in 2009
rhs408
Profile Joined January 2011
United States904 Posts
February 07 2012 20:24 GMT
#562
On February 08 2012 04:25 BloodThirsty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 04:20 dagile wrote:
i'm sorry but I have to wonder why is this stream featured again? what happened to TL's whole criteria for actual skilled players to be featured and not just girls and people playing team games?


yea i agree im not quite sure why. I mean random teaming is nice and all but there are a handful of streamers who stream just as much who are far above and beyond in skill at 1v1

Too bad they don't do anything to differentiate themselves from all the rest, hence they (and you) will always remain unfeatured. Good day.
HackBenjamin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1094 Posts
February 07 2012 21:24 GMT
#563
ProTech is featured because he's amongst the top 2v2 players in the world. Just because team games aren't for everyone doesn't mean he shouldn't be featured.

Go ProTech!
Skillver
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria1309 Posts
February 08 2012 14:11 GMT
#564
Oh wow one of the most awful players gets featured again. I was so happy to see him vanish in the underground with his bitchy attitude and now hes back

User was warned for this post
Agile
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada32 Posts
February 08 2012 14:26 GMT
#565
On February 08 2012 05:24 rhs408 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 04:25 BloodThirsty wrote:
On February 08 2012 04:20 dagile wrote:
i'm sorry but I have to wonder why is this stream featured again? what happened to TL's whole criteria for actual skilled players to be featured and not just girls and people playing team games?


yea i agree im not quite sure why. I mean random teaming is nice and all but there are a handful of streamers who stream just as much who are far above and beyond in skill at 1v1

Too bad they don't do anything to differentiate themselves from all the rest, hence they (and you) will always remain unfeatured. Good day.

That's basically the same as saying all female streamers should be featured even if they're in diamond or gold just because they're pretty and get a lot of viewers because of it
poop
rckY
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany116 Posts
February 09 2012 23:46 GMT
#566
On February 08 2012 23:11 Skillver wrote:
Oh wow one of the most awful players gets featured again. I was so happy to see him vanish in the underground with his bitchy attitude and now hes back


word. Bad day for TL.
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
February 10 2012 07:28 GMT
#567
grats on feature again ^>^!!
hihihi
KapsyL
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden704 Posts
February 12 2012 18:03 GMT
#568
welcome back on the list man, you totally deserve it
Jurg Jurg Jurg
RogerShah
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands131 Posts
February 12 2012 19:34 GMT
#569
VashTS is either ProTech himself or his gay friend. Jeez dude, why dont u respect others to have an opinion about the stream?
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-12 20:54:07
February 12 2012 20:51 GMT
#570
On February 13 2012 04:34 RogerShah wrote:
VashTS is either ProTech himself or his gay friend. Jeez dude, why dont u respect others to have an opinion about the stream?


first you open up by trying to disrespect him then you talk about respecting others.
hihihi
ludden
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany8 Posts
February 21 2012 16:42 GMT
#571
Hey protech ,
did ever think about making a daily like day9 ?
KapsyL
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden704 Posts
February 21 2012 16:50 GMT
#572
haha isnt his 20 hours a day streaming enough^^
Jurg Jurg Jurg
ludden
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany8 Posts
February 22 2012 11:01 GMT
#573
On February 22 2012 01:50 KapsyL wrote:
haha isnt his 20 hours a day streaming enough^^

And where is the problem donating 2hrs a week for some daily ? Would be way more interested in getting commentary on a replay than see him playing with music
KapsyL
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden704 Posts
February 22 2012 18:24 GMT
#574
I guess. A bit of commentary doesnt hurt i guess. Unfortunetly most games seem to end rather early so there would have to be a ton of replays to cover 2hrs every day.. Maybe thats just me though. i cant watch the NA hours so dont know what happends then.
Jurg Jurg Jurg
odem
Profile Joined August 2011
143 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-28 21:18:07
February 22 2012 19:58 GMT
#575
On February 08 2012 04:44 Xiron wrote:

The criteria are:

1. High skill level / tournament results -
Being winner of various 2v2 tournaments thoughout the entirety of SC2 makes him an accomplished player

2. High average viewer count -
Having a constant of around 200 viewers while not being featured is a high average viewer count, comparable to some of the koreans.

3. Notability / contribution -
Being almost the only high level 2v2 player that streams makes him notable.

4. Activity -
Streaming 12 hours a day, everyday, no need to say more

word


in addition:

3. notability -
appeared on kings of tin (episode 33), frequently mentioned and referred to in several day9 (still alive btw) 2v2 guides

rossi570
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4 Posts
February 23 2012 03:35 GMT
#576
gratz on being featured again.
and glad you're playing 2s again.
this way u really contribute something to the list of featured streams nobody else does/can do.
poohop
Profile Joined March 2012
1 Post
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 17:57:51
March 07 2012 17:57 GMT
#577
What happened to that grandmasters protech? 10 pools don't work in 1s do they? And mutas are good. I think i got dumber by watching your stream.
KapsyL
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden704 Posts
March 07 2012 18:49 GMT
#578
dumb people getting dumber i guess.
Jurg Jurg Jurg
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
March 11 2012 19:35 GMT
#579
Thanks everyone for watching, been around 500 viewers on average! Much appreciated and hope you enjoy the games. I've been a little inconsistent with the times that I stream due to some other things going on, but I'm still putting in 10hrs a day at odd times, so just check your facebook or twitter to see when I go live!
KapsyL
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden704 Posts
March 11 2012 19:40 GMT
#580
From a EU point of view. It might take a bit longer to find queues but I have a really good time watching your stream. Especially when your times are like this I get to watch when im still awake rather then sitting braindead at PC.
Regardless, keep it up man!
Jurg Jurg Jurg
Frail
Profile Joined October 2010
Iceland336 Posts
April 04 2012 16:09 GMT
#581
Really happy to see you on the Korean server man!

Wreck that shit!
Whargarbl
parrradize
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany59 Posts
April 12 2012 21:41 GMT
#582
Good stream, keep it up ProTech. Haters gonna hate but viewercount is constant so who cares! Highest level of 2v2!
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
April 20 2012 01:56 GMT
#583
stream is live!
saladToss
Profile Joined June 2012
United States75 Posts
August 15 2012 22:03 GMT
#584
Why is this guy still given a spotlight on TL where he can wrongly accuse players of cheating and hacking to an inflated audience?

There is hardly ever proof - just name calling, slander, and rage.

This stream is a blemish on the TL featured stream list and on the 2v2 community.
Time is like a fuse, short and burning fast
smoosh
Profile Joined July 2011
31 Posts
September 06 2012 17:45 GMT
#585
On August 16 2012 07:03 saladToss wrote:
Why is this guy still given a spotlight on TL where he can wrongly accuse players of cheating and hacking to an inflated audience?

There is hardly ever proof - just name calling, slander, and rage.

This stream is a blemish on the TL featured stream list and on the 2v2 community.


Even considering false accusations/rage, I'd argue that ProTech is the best thing to ever happen to the 2v2 community. He is extremely dedicated to mastering the game mode and provides hours and hours of extremely high level content to his viewers. I'm pretty sure accusing/raging at people would make up about .01% of all the streaming he has done. At that point you can chalk it up to letting off steam, as he's clearly not utilizing his stream/fanbase just to slander people.
rhs408
Profile Joined January 2011
United States904 Posts
September 09 2012 01:02 GMT
#586
On August 16 2012 07:03 saladToss wrote:
Why is this guy still given a spotlight on TL where he can wrongly accuse players of cheating and hacking to an inflated audience?

There is hardly ever proof - just name calling, slander, and rage.

This stream is a blemish on the TL featured stream list and on the 2v2 community.

Didn't catch this when it was posted, glad smoosh did. TL is LUCKY, as is the rest of the SC2 community, that ProTech streams here. 2v2 games are pretty much always action packed as there is often a rush, which involves a ton of micro - this is where viewers can really learn a lot. ProTech has FANTASTIC micro along with great decision making, it is a real treat to watch!

Once in a while I do see him accuse people of stream cheating whom I know for sure are not (such as team Ai Sieech and Lillekanin), but it's not a big deal. I know it's just a product of him getting stream cheated against so much that he's paranoid that everyone does it (and a lot of them do).
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
December 19 2012 07:19 GMT
#587
HoTS Beta gogo !
skarkus
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada5 Posts
December 20 2012 06:53 GMT
#588
Sick 2v2 stream
How can you play this good and still lose...
Foulum
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark24 Posts
December 20 2012 06:55 GMT
#589
This is my far one of my favorite streams. Good music and really high level 2v2.
But what attracts me most is the scheduled streaming. I know for sure that this awaits me when I return from a long day in school ;
Narrator: How would you like to be remembered? J.K. Rowling: "As someone who did the best she could with the talent she had."
UncleWalty
Profile Joined September 2011
United States8 Posts
December 20 2012 22:12 GMT
#590
sir PorkTech a pretty entertaining watch.
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
January 27 2013 15:31 GMT
#591
Live
hkese
Profile Joined July 2010
33 Posts
March 21 2013 04:27 GMT
#592
Protech is currently ranked #1 in RT 2v2.
Listening him talking is more interesting than his gameplay imo.
hkese
Profile Joined July 2010
33 Posts
March 21 2013 04:30 GMT
#593
Below is a link to his battle.net profile if you are interested.

http://sc2ranks.com/us/1710302/llllllllllll
Ironjokers
Profile Joined August 2012
United States1 Post
Last Edited: 2013-03-29 16:30:05
March 29 2013 16:11 GMT
#594
I have been watching protech since the beginning of WoL and always enjoyed this stream because just about no high level players play teams steady on stream. Mike is always willing to answer questions about builds and is never heavy on commercials. I'd recommend this stream to anyone who enjoys team play over 1v1.
Rubber Baby Buggy Bumpers!
KapsyL
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden704 Posts
April 08 2013 12:24 GMT
#595
Live, tune in and enjoy his sc2 games with a bit of diablo 3 during que times!
Jurg Jurg Jurg
hkese
Profile Joined July 2010
33 Posts
April 08 2013 17:10 GMT
#596
Global #1 RT 2v2 streaming.
KapsyL
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden704 Posts
April 09 2013 18:07 GMT
#597
Going for masters(1v1) with only reapers. Tune in and enjoy the games
Jurg Jurg Jurg
KapsyL
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden704 Posts
April 10 2013 14:07 GMT
#598
Come and join us in the chat while watching protech playing 2v2R as random.
Jurg Jurg Jurg
CyKLanD
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany22 Posts
April 10 2013 14:09 GMT
#599
Awesome stream man !
Always watching =)
KapsyL
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden704 Posts
April 11 2013 18:35 GMT
#600
Live & playing with a customer!
Tune in and enjoy the games
Jurg Jurg Jurg
hkese
Profile Joined July 2010
33 Posts
April 18 2013 04:31 GMT
#601
Tune in to see high level 2v2
KapsyL
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden704 Posts
June 24 2013 13:09 GMT
#602
Live now! Tune in to watch him play hardcore with his battlehelmet and fork!
Jurg Jurg Jurg
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
August 11 2013 12:37 GMT
#603
http://i.imgur.com/WE7SVdZ.png
Cadaver
Profile Joined September 2010
6 Posts
October 04 2013 07:02 GMT
#604
Hi, ProTech.
Love your stream.
Would be great if you upload a replay pack!
Could you?
HornyHerring
Profile Joined March 2011
Papua New Guinea1058 Posts
October 04 2013 11:44 GMT
#605
he banned me for saying that he shouldn't be whining about politics while he doesn't vote. xD madtech
oh, hai
KapsyL
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden704 Posts
October 07 2013 16:47 GMT
#606
Bump. Live atm!
Jurg Jurg Jurg
XllX
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany23 Posts
January 20 2014 02:00 GMT
#607
I can't believe, ProTech's stream got defeatured on teamliquid again.
ProTech is THE high level 2v2 streamer, and imo it is the most entertaining Starcraft stream overall.
shdi
Profile Joined January 2014
United States2 Posts
January 20 2014 04:32 GMT
#608
ProTech is the best 2v2 streamer on Twitch, and he is just funny.
What is the real reasoning behind this defeatured or unfeatured thing?
Did he piss of anybody? Can we see couple examples.
Even if he did, he is just practicing his freedom of speech.
Please fix this.
Live wisely
tcpip4000
Profile Joined April 2011
Colombia10 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-20 11:30:18
January 20 2014 11:20 GMT
#609
The sense of justice of the web administrators is the most wicked I ever seen they allow things when too many viewers or money or adds, if no, then no.

It doesn't mean the caster do what they say he does.
Friskyrum
Profile Joined January 2014
1 Post
January 20 2014 18:17 GMT
#610
The Reasoning behind Protechs ban is completely false and lies. He was banned for sexual comments about Gay people and other such things, and I literally watch his stream everyday, and he quiet literally has not said ONE WORD as such. He is a really nice person, and EVEN BANS people that make comments like that. He is not racist, he is not sexist, he does not gays. This ban was completey false in those facts.
KapsyL
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden704 Posts
January 20 2014 19:56 GMT
#611
He even tells me when i need to behave D: X)
Jurg Jurg Jurg
shdi
Profile Joined January 2014
United States2 Posts
January 21 2014 07:02 GMT
#612
I found out that actual reason behind protech being unfeatured is Puckk approached to protech for playing a 2v2 game and Puckk claims that Protech answered him using homophobic language. And Puckk cried because Protech didn't play 2v2 game with him and run to their brothers to get Protech unfeatured.
Live wisely
hkese
Profile Joined July 2010
33 Posts
January 21 2014 07:35 GMT
#613
It's sad to see the #1 2v2 stream getting unfeatured. The popularity of Starcraft scene is already deteriorating.
Darkbug
Profile Joined January 2014
Czech Republic3 Posts
January 21 2014 10:59 GMT
#614
Best 2v2 player unfeatured? Teamliquid its really that bad? Protech is runing with all the music and commentary on my second screen everytime. There is absolutly no reason for any penalty!

Im not alone who have same opinion on this situation, its just not fair to remove best 2v2 player for false reason like that.

Protech stream help me and my friends to play better starcraft and enjoy the game much more and thats matters.
Astet
Profile Joined December 2011
Austria2 Posts
January 21 2014 11:55 GMT
#615
I think that was a good decision. I dont care if he is streaming as #1 2v2 Streamer. If u dont respect the others. You deserve such punishment.
Bam Bam Bam
Darkbug
Profile Joined January 2014
Czech Republic3 Posts
January 21 2014 13:12 GMT
#616
Astet: if you dont care about his 2v2 stream, how you know, that he dont respect the others? Im too old for your trolling kid.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44184 Posts
January 21 2014 13:43 GMT
#617
On January 21 2014 22:12 Darkbug wrote:
Astet: if you dont care about his 2v2 stream, how you know, that he dont respect the others? Im too old for your trolling kid.


You're the one who called ProTech the "Best 2v2 player". Maybe most popular (which is definitely a good thing), but he's far from #1 in terms of skill. Not that that particularly matters as far as I know, but it's always curious when a bunch of random people join TL out of the blue just to post for (or against) a player or streamer. I think it would be more constructive to find out where and how you could talk to the people/ moderators of TL who actually are in charge of featured streaming, instead of simply accusing them for unfeaturing him for a "false reason". Find a way to get informed, and then get informed.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Darkbug
Profile Joined January 2014
Czech Republic3 Posts
January 21 2014 17:32 GMT
#618
DarkPlasmaBall: This is the part of the forum where people can speak about the stream right? If im right this is protech thread. You still thinking its strange that some random people speaking here about their favorite stream? I cant see anything strange on it.

Also why not support streamer when i think its not fair? Im watching his stream becouse i found it best for teaching better skills in starcraft, so im happy for that. I can also imagine that all the hackers what he beat or prove their hacking gonna go there and post some stupid lies.
Ctone23
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States1839 Posts
January 21 2014 17:57 GMT
#619
On January 21 2014 22:43 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Maybe most popular (which is definitely a good thing), but he's far from #1 in terms of skill.



I'm curious who you think is better than him, in terms of skill, in 2v2? I don't know anything about why he was removed from the feature list but it is sad when you look at his numbers, 1/3 of what they were when he was featured.

He's damn good at the game, I will say that.
TL+ Member
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44184 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-21 18:12:27
January 21 2014 18:09 GMT
#620
On January 22 2014 02:57 Ctone23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 22:43 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Maybe most popular (which is definitely a good thing), but he's far from #1 in terms of skill.



I'm curious who you think is better than him, in terms of skill, in 2v2? I don't know anything about why he was removed from the feature list but it is sad when you look at his numbers, 1/3 of what they were when he was featured.

He's damn good at the game, I will say that.


The 2v2 rankings over the past 2-3 seasons (at the very least) rarely show him near the top, and plenty of other consistent, better players have been ahead of him for months now. Both in 2v2 RT and AT. Baz, Bubbles, Paragon, Mystik, various Ai/ Demos/ RavenZ clan members, etc. It might be because ProTech hasn't been grinding out 2v2 as seriously as he used to (e.g., he's also trying to become a better 1v1 player), but that's obviously going to take a toll on how he fares against the current best 2v2 players. And clearly it's fine for him to do other things, but then he can't really be advertised as the premier 2v2 player like he used to be a long time ago. He's definitely still a great 2v2 player; there's no doubt about that. And I'm sure those who are his fans are upset with the whole oscillation of him being featured then unfeatured, back and forth. But I'm just not sure how much help it's going to be for new people to make a TL account just to sling mud on TL's decision to unfeature him.

EDIT: For the record, I don't think a requirement to get featured is to actually be the best either. There are criteria outlined in the relevant threads.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Ctone23
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States1839 Posts
January 21 2014 18:41 GMT
#621
On January 22 2014 03:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 02:57 Ctone23 wrote:
On January 21 2014 22:43 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Maybe most popular (which is definitely a good thing), but he's far from #1 in terms of skill.



I'm curious who you think is better than him, in terms of skill, in 2v2? I don't know anything about why he was removed from the feature list but it is sad when you look at his numbers, 1/3 of what they were when he was featured.

He's damn good at the game, I will say that.


The 2v2 rankings over the past 2-3 seasons (at the very least) rarely show him near the top, and plenty of other consistent, better players have been ahead of him for months now.



I see, thanks!
TL+ Member
PesteNoire
Profile Joined June 2012
151 Posts
January 21 2014 21:26 GMT
#622
On January 22 2014 03:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 02:57 Ctone23 wrote:
On January 21 2014 22:43 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Maybe most popular (which is definitely a good thing), but he's far from #1 in terms of skill.



I'm curious who you think is better than him, in terms of skill, in 2v2? I don't know anything about why he was removed from the feature list but it is sad when you look at his numbers, 1/3 of what they were when he was featured.

He's damn good at the game, I will say that.


The 2v2 rankings over the past 2-3 seasons (at the very least) rarely show him near the top, and plenty of other consistent, better players have been ahead of him for months now. Both in 2v2 RT and AT. Baz, Bubbles, Paragon, Mystik, various Ai/ Demos/ RavenZ clan members, etc. It might be because ProTech hasn't been grinding out 2v2 as seriously as he used to (e.g., he's also trying to become a better 1v1 player), but that's obviously going to take a toll on how he fares against the current best 2v2 players. And clearly it's fine for him to do other things, but then he can't really be advertised as the premier 2v2 player like he used to be a long time ago. He's definitely still a great 2v2 player; there's no doubt about that. And I'm sure those who are his fans are upset with the whole oscillation of him being featured then unfeatured, back and forth. But I'm just not sure how much help it's going to be for new people to make a TL account just to sling mud on TL's decision to unfeature him.

EDIT: For the record, I don't think a requirement to get featured is to actually be the best either. There are criteria outlined in the relevant threads.


You are actually way wrong. Protech actually got to number 1 2v2 RT on KOREAN server. He is better than all those players listed, he swtiches accounts so often its hard to tell which ones are his. Mystik, bubbles, etc.. those guys only play arranged teams, protech only play Random teams.. He is the best 2v2 random teamer by a mile. Its not even debatable.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44184 Posts
January 21 2014 21:44 GMT
#623
On January 22 2014 06:26 PesteNoire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 03:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On January 22 2014 02:57 Ctone23 wrote:
On January 21 2014 22:43 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Maybe most popular (which is definitely a good thing), but he's far from #1 in terms of skill.



I'm curious who you think is better than him, in terms of skill, in 2v2? I don't know anything about why he was removed from the feature list but it is sad when you look at his numbers, 1/3 of what they were when he was featured.

He's damn good at the game, I will say that.


The 2v2 rankings over the past 2-3 seasons (at the very least) rarely show him near the top, and plenty of other consistent, better players have been ahead of him for months now. Both in 2v2 RT and AT. Baz, Bubbles, Paragon, Mystik, various Ai/ Demos/ RavenZ clan members, etc. It might be because ProTech hasn't been grinding out 2v2 as seriously as he used to (e.g., he's also trying to become a better 1v1 player), but that's obviously going to take a toll on how he fares against the current best 2v2 players. And clearly it's fine for him to do other things, but then he can't really be advertised as the premier 2v2 player like he used to be a long time ago. He's definitely still a great 2v2 player; there's no doubt about that. And I'm sure those who are his fans are upset with the whole oscillation of him being featured then unfeatured, back and forth. But I'm just not sure how much help it's going to be for new people to make a TL account just to sling mud on TL's decision to unfeature him.

EDIT: For the record, I don't think a requirement to get featured is to actually be the best either. There are criteria outlined in the relevant threads.


You are actually way wrong. Protech actually got to number 1 2v2 RT on KOREAN server. He is better than all those players listed, he swtiches accounts so often its hard to tell which ones are his. Mystik, bubbles, etc.. those guys only play arranged teams, protech only play Random teams.. He is the best 2v2 random teamer by a mile. Its not even debatable.


He's not even on page one on either of these:
http://www.sc2ranks.com/hots/global/2v2t/all/all
http://www.sc2ranks.com/hots/global/2v2r/all/all

And last season he wasn't near the top 10 (or 20?), let alone #1. And as you can see, plenty of the listed people play RT as well as AT above him. Sorry, but he hasn't been at the top for a while now.

I don't want to muck up his stream thread with any more negativity, so I'll stop involving myself in the conversation. I hope his featuring/ unfeaturing becomes more consistent, by whatever metrics are being used for that decision. It's pretty cool that a non-1v1 player has so many followers.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
PesteNoire
Profile Joined June 2012
151 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-21 22:31:04
January 21 2014 21:59 GMT
#624
On January 22 2014 06:44 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 06:26 PesteNoire wrote:
On January 22 2014 03:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On January 22 2014 02:57 Ctone23 wrote:
On January 21 2014 22:43 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Maybe most popular (which is definitely a good thing), but he's far from #1 in terms of skill.



I'm curious who you think is better than him, in terms of skill, in 2v2? I don't know anything about why he was removed from the feature list but it is sad when you look at his numbers, 1/3 of what they were when he was featured.

He's damn good at the game, I will say that.


The 2v2 rankings over the past 2-3 seasons (at the very least) rarely show him near the top, and plenty of other consistent, better players have been ahead of him for months now. Both in 2v2 RT and AT. Baz, Bubbles, Paragon, Mystik, various Ai/ Demos/ RavenZ clan members, etc. It might be because ProTech hasn't been grinding out 2v2 as seriously as he used to (e.g., he's also trying to become a better 1v1 player), but that's obviously going to take a toll on how he fares against the current best 2v2 players. And clearly it's fine for him to do other things, but then he can't really be advertised as the premier 2v2 player like he used to be a long time ago. He's definitely still a great 2v2 player; there's no doubt about that. And I'm sure those who are his fans are upset with the whole oscillation of him being featured then unfeatured, back and forth. But I'm just not sure how much help it's going to be for new people to make a TL account just to sling mud on TL's decision to unfeature him.

EDIT: For the record, I don't think a requirement to get featured is to actually be the best either. There are criteria outlined in the relevant threads.


You are actually way wrong. Protech actually got to number 1 2v2 RT on KOREAN server. He is better than all those players listed, he swtiches accounts so often its hard to tell which ones are his. Mystik, bubbles, etc.. those guys only play arranged teams, protech only play Random teams.. He is the best 2v2 random teamer by a mile. Its not even debatable.


He's not even on page one on either of these:
http://www.sc2ranks.com/hots/global/2v2t/all/all
http://www.sc2ranks.com/hots/global/2v2r/all/all

And last season he wasn't near the top 10 (or 20?), let alone #1. And as you can see, plenty of the listed people play RT as well as AT above him. Sorry, but he hasn't been at the top for a while now.

I don't want to muck up his stream thread with any more negativity, so I'll stop involving myself in the conversation. I hope his featuring/ unfeaturing becomes more consistent, by whatever metrics are being used for that decision. It's pretty cool that a non-1v1 player has so many followers.


You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Protech has only been mostly playing on barcodes and on korean server these days.

http://www.sc2ranks.com/hots/fea/2v2r/master/all
oh look, there is protech, on a barcode, number one on the korean server.
For proof that account is his, you see the last game played on it was 1/09/14.. so going back on his VODs, to that date, here is him playing on it. http://www.twitch.tv/protech/b/493760026
But I already knew it was his because I actually watched his stream when he got number one. You probably have never watched his stream other than turning it on for 5 minutes one time.


Any more questions?
XllX
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany23 Posts
January 22 2014 04:10 GMT
#625
On January 22 2014 03:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:

The 2v2 rankings over the past 2-3 seasons (at the very least) rarely show him near the top, and plenty of other consistent, better players have been ahead of him for months now. Both in 2v2 RT and AT. Baz, Bubbles, Paragon, Mystik, various Ai/ Demos/ RavenZ clan members, etc.


On January 22 2014 06:44 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 06:26 PesteNoire wrote:
On January 22 2014 03:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On January 22 2014 02:57 Ctone23 wrote:
On January 21 2014 22:43 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Maybe most popular (which is definitely a good thing), but he's far from #1 in terms of skill.



I'm curious who you think is better than him, in terms of skill, in 2v2? I don't know anything about why he was removed from the feature list but it is sad when you look at his numbers, 1/3 of what they were when he was featured.

He's damn good at the game, I will say that.


The 2v2 rankings over the past 2-3 seasons (at the very least) rarely show him near the top, and plenty of other consistent, better players have been ahead of him for months now. Both in 2v2 RT and AT. Baz, Bubbles, Paragon, Mystik, various Ai/ Demos/ RavenZ clan members, etc. It might be because ProTech hasn't been grinding out 2v2 as seriously as he used to (e.g., he's also trying to become a better 1v1 player), but that's obviously going to take a toll on how he fares against the current best 2v2 players. And clearly it's fine for him to do other things, but then he can't really be advertised as the premier 2v2 player like he used to be a long time ago. He's definitely still a great 2v2 player; there's no doubt about that. And I'm sure those who are his fans are upset with the whole oscillation of him being featured then unfeatured, back and forth. But I'm just not sure how much help it's going to be for new people to make a TL account just to sling mud on TL's decision to unfeature him.

EDIT: For the record, I don't think a requirement to get featured is to actually be the best either. There are criteria outlined in the relevant threads.


You are actually way wrong. Protech actually got to number 1 2v2 RT on KOREAN server. He is better than all those players listed, he swtiches accounts so often its hard to tell which ones are his. Mystik, bubbles, etc.. those guys only play arranged teams, protech only play Random teams.. He is the best 2v2 random teamer by a mile. Its not even debatable.


He's not even on page one on either of these:
http://www.sc2ranks.com/hots/global/2v2t/all/all
http://www.sc2ranks.com/hots/global/2v2r/all/all

And last season he wasn't near the top 10 (or 20?), let alone #1. And as you can see, plenty of the listed people play RT as well as AT above him. Sorry, but he hasn't been at the top for a while now.

I don't want to muck up his stream thread with any more negativity, so I'll stop involving myself in the conversation. I hope his featuring/ unfeaturing becomes more consistent, by whatever metrics are being used for that decision. It's pretty cool that a non-1v1 player has so many followers.


If you actually played or watched 2v2 (or, if you do, were less biased against ProTech), you wouldn't even mention arranged teams (AT), since playing as a somewhat decent arranged team is a gigantic advantage over playing random team (RT). ProTech basically only plays RT these days.

Why is ProTech so often not prominent the ladder point list in RT?
This is because he rarely uses his/a main account for laddering. His mmr is so high, that queue times are around 20-30 minutes (I have witnessed his queue time going up to an hour once), as the matchmaking system looks to no avail for similarly high rated accounts to match him against.
ProTech only needs to use an account for 1-2 days to make its mmr reach a level where queue times become ridiculously long.
To avoid these for a streamer unfeasible queue times, ProTech mostly plays on viewer accounts, finding games much faster.

On top of the horrendous queue times, stream sniping and stream cheating are rampant when he uses his/a main account. Stream cheating ProTech seems to be a sport for some. CombatEX and Deezer sniping Destiny and Incontrol back in the day is nothing in comparison.
So, playing on his/a main account, he has the choice between facing stream cheaters 30-40% of the games and having a 5 minute stream delay, the latter of which impairs the viewer experience, since it eliminates stream interaction for the most part.

Usually, ProTech doesn't try to rank up an account in ladder points until roughly the last week of a season. During last season, he mostly laddered on the Korean server, where he did manage to end the season ranked #1 (despite the lag playing from North America!).

The "plenty of other consistent, better players" outright don't exist. Most of the ones you mention are vastly inferior.
Baz is legitimately good and two seasons or so ago he and ProTech went head to head on NA ladder. And maybe Mystik, but he doesn't really play much at all.
vNmMasterT
Profile Joined September 2012
68 Posts
January 22 2014 17:50 GMT
#626
On January 22 2014 03:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 02:57 Ctone23 wrote:
On January 21 2014 22:43 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Maybe most popular (which is definitely a good thing), but he's far from #1 in terms of skill.



I'm curious who you think is better than him, in terms of skill, in 2v2? I don't know anything about why he was removed from the feature list but it is sad when you look at his numbers, 1/3 of what they were when he was featured.

He's damn good at the game, I will say that.


The 2v2 rankings over the past 2-3 seasons (at the very least) rarely show him near the top, and plenty of other consistent, better players have been ahead of him for months now. Both in 2v2 RT and AT. Baz, Bubbles, Paragon, Mystik, various Ai/ Demos/ RavenZ clan members, etc. It might be because ProTech hasn't been grinding out 2v2 as seriously as he used to (e.g., he's also trying to become a better 1v1 player), but that's obviously going to take a toll on how he fares against the current best 2v2 players. And clearly it's fine for him to do other things, but then he can't really be advertised as the premier 2v2 player like he used to be a long time ago. He's definitely still a great 2v2 player; there's no doubt about that. And I'm sure those who are his fans are upset with the whole oscillation of him being featured then unfeatured, back and forth. But I'm just not sure how much help it's going to be for new people to make a TL account just to sling mud on TL's decision to unfeature him.

EDIT: For the record, I don't think a requirement to get featured is to actually be the best either. There are criteria outlined in the relevant threads.


Paragon aka StellarMango aka your maphacking little brother?
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-23 20:49:51
January 23 2014 20:46 GMT
#627
On January 22 2014 06:44 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 06:26 PesteNoire wrote:
On January 22 2014 03:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On January 22 2014 02:57 Ctone23 wrote:
On January 21 2014 22:43 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Maybe most popular (which is definitely a good thing), but he's far from #1 in terms of skill.



I'm curious who you think is better than him, in terms of skill, in 2v2? I don't know anything about why he was removed from the feature list but it is sad when you look at his numbers, 1/3 of what they were when he was featured.

He's damn good at the game, I will say that.


The 2v2 rankings over the past 2-3 seasons (at the very least) rarely show him near the top, and plenty of other consistent, better players have been ahead of him for months now. Both in 2v2 RT and AT. Baz, Bubbles, Paragon, Mystik, various Ai/ Demos/ RavenZ clan members, etc. It might be because ProTech hasn't been grinding out 2v2 as seriously as he used to (e.g., he's also trying to become a better 1v1 player), but that's obviously going to take a toll on how he fares against the current best 2v2 players. And clearly it's fine for him to do other things, but then he can't really be advertised as the premier 2v2 player like he used to be a long time ago. He's definitely still a great 2v2 player; there's no doubt about that. And I'm sure those who are his fans are upset with the whole oscillation of him being featured then unfeatured, back and forth. But I'm just not sure how much help it's going to be for new people to make a TL account just to sling mud on TL's decision to unfeature him.

EDIT: For the record, I don't think a requirement to get featured is to actually be the best either. There are criteria outlined in the relevant threads.


You are actually way wrong. Protech actually got to number 1 2v2 RT on KOREAN server. He is better than all those players listed, he swtiches accounts so often its hard to tell which ones are his. Mystik, bubbles, etc.. those guys only play arranged teams, protech only play Random teams.. He is the best 2v2 random teamer by a mile. Its not even debatable.


He's not even on page one on either of these:
http://www.sc2ranks.com/hots/global/2v2t/all/all
http://www.sc2ranks.com/hots/global/2v2r/all/all

And last season he wasn't near the top 10 (or 20?), let alone #1. And as you can see, plenty of the listed people play RT as well as AT above him. Sorry, but he hasn't been at the top for a while now.

I don't want to muck up his stream thread with any more negativity, so I'll stop involving myself in the conversation. I hope his featuring/ unfeaturing becomes more consistent, by whatever metrics are being used for that decision. It's pretty cool that a non-1v1 player has so many followers.



Screenshots / vods provided being top ranked. Why do people make themselves looks like idiots, when the proof is there?

My stream was defeatured from racial chat / homophobic chat / transgender chat. Which you can find on plenty of featured streams on this website.

Has nothing to do with my achievements or anything else. I have achieved all you can achieve in 2v2. People who hate my stream got the better of my stream, reported for content they didn't like ( even though it clearly states inappropriate content on both TL and twitch.tv ) and so it got removed. My viewer numbers are there, my skill is there. The drama is what defeatured me.

Frankly, I don't care I don't need TL.net to get viewers. But what they did is wrong and obviously they play favorites here.
Eatme
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
Switzerland3919 Posts
January 28 2014 03:07 GMT
#628
Interestingly the viewer number seems to be about the same even after the defeature.
I have the best fucking lawyers in the country including the man they call the Malmis.
Comadevil
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany214 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-28 08:44:33
January 28 2014 08:42 GMT
#629
This does not wonder me at all. TL is not anymore THE hub for streams. The only important streaming platform for games at least in western countries is right now twitch.tv. And people do not watch only Starcraft 2 anymore but also many other games. So they just choose their stream they want to watch directyly on twitch.tv with their services like Followers, listing streams by games etc. TL is here to much limited to SC2, Hearthstone and Dota2
TL can give a boost to a streamer who was not featured before (or for a long time like Avilo) and so some people, who never or seldom look into the non-featured section,will discover someone. But i guess the majority of regular TL visitors who are interested in watching streams have seen ProTech already and made their opinion up if they want to watch him or not
iverysmiles
Profile Joined May 2014
12 Posts
August 22 2014 23:38 GMT
#630
Community was really supportive of Total biscuit when he got sick, he's a good guy and all, but Protech has literally provided 100+ times more content than TB.

As a lot of you know, for about 6 months now, Protech has been struggling with a debilitating wisdom teeth condition. Whatever controversy has surrounded it, one thing is for certain, he has a serious condition that needs to be addressed. For the procedure he needs $1700.

The fact that he has been bearing this pain specifically to CONSTANTLY GIVE VIEWERS CONTENT shows just how committed he is to the community.

Now, to head off any people say that protech gets money blah blah blah, well guess what? In the real world people have BILLS to pay. Not everyone can just go out and pay $1700 out of pocket!

He has been averaging about $2000-3000 a month in just donations which is classified as LOW INCOME.

Anyone who has watched streams for awhile KNOWS that the ad revenue is GARBAGE! As he has said it is laughable at around $300 a month!

Protech has averaged around 165 subscribers and has now gotten up to 200. Before you say wow, that's another $1000 a month, you need to THINK and realize that Twitch takes HALF of that money! He only sees an extra $500 a month from that $1000!

He has said very specifically that he spends all his money on putting a roof over his head and money in his belly. Anything left over he uses to pay his bills. He doesn't waste it on drugs or any crap like that.

If we are going to pull together as a community and get this guy enough money to get past his monthly bills, I feel like we could do that if he were up to around $5,000 a month. If he is breaking even now, then he should be able to get his MUCH NEEDED operation at that level.

A lot of people talk a lot about the community and helping out, but I bet a lot of people watch his stream and don't donate or subscribe and probably even use adblock. I agree with Protech, he has been doing this for FOUR YEARS and makes a pittance compared to what other streamers make. He's said he really deserves that kind of success and income but he has continued streaming despite not getting what he is worth.

$5 or $10 is probably the price of a movie or a beer, so time to man up people!

Oh and to make matters worse, he just lost his No Scope sponsorship after less than one day. They cited "racist and discriminatory" behavior on his chat. Total BS, anyone who has seen his stream knows that he has never said or done anything like that! Just like he said, go look through ALL his vods, you won't find anything like that at all! Just more garbage perpetuated by people.
Gaskal
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada241 Posts
August 23 2014 03:06 GMT
#631
9 posts...3 of them identical... and all of them having to do with asking money for Protech. Oooook....

If you want to ask for help this isn't how you go about doing it. You already started a thread over this issue that a mod closed. Heck, you associated forking over some cash with "manning up". I mean, really?

He's also a 2v2 streamer, which is a niche fan following compared to the rest of competitive SC2. So you can't always expect the viewership of 1v1.

They cited "racist and discriminatory" behavior on his chat. Total BS, anyone who has seen his stream knows that he has never said or done anything like that

Lol laying it on a bit thick aren't you
http://imgur.com/m0o3ttg

TL defeatures his stream because of it and now you're telling me his sponsors dropped his sponsorship because of it. So obviously attitude seems to be an issue.
"Get all the money, build all the units...kill the other guy"
iverysmiles
Profile Joined May 2014
12 Posts
August 23 2014 20:11 GMT
#632
yeah that screenshot is out of context sorry bro
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44184 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-24 11:42:43
August 24 2014 11:38 GMT
#633
On August 23 2014 08:38 iverysmiles wrote:
Community was really supportive of Total biscuit when he got sick, he's a good guy and all, but Protech has literally provided 100+ times more content than TB.

As a lot of you know, for about 6 months now, Protech has been struggling with a debilitating wisdom teeth condition. Whatever controversy has surrounded it, one thing is for certain, he has a serious condition that needs to be addressed. For the procedure he needs $1700.

The fact that he has been bearing this pain specifically to CONSTANTLY GIVE VIEWERS CONTENT shows just how committed he is to the community.

Now, to head off any people say that protech gets money blah blah blah, well guess what? In the real world people have BILLS to pay. Not everyone can just go out and pay $1700 out of pocket!

He has been averaging about $2000-3000 a month in just donations which is classified as LOW INCOME.

Anyone who has watched streams for awhile KNOWS that the ad revenue is GARBAGE! As he has said it is laughable at around $300 a month!

Protech has averaged around 165 subscribers and has now gotten up to 200. Before you say wow, that's another $1000 a month, you need to THINK and realize that Twitch takes HALF of that money! He only sees an extra $500 a month from that $1000!

He has said very specifically that he spends all his money on putting a roof over his head and money in his belly. Anything left over he uses to pay his bills. He doesn't waste it on drugs or any crap like that.

If we are going to pull together as a community and get this guy enough money to get past his monthly bills, I feel like we could do that if he were up to around $5,000 a month. If he is breaking even now, then he should be able to get his MUCH NEEDED operation at that level.

A lot of people talk a lot about the community and helping out, but I bet a lot of people watch his stream and don't donate or subscribe and probably even use adblock. I agree with Protech, he has been doing this for FOUR YEARS and makes a pittance compared to what other streamers make. He's said he really deserves that kind of success and income but he has continued streaming despite not getting what he is worth.

$5 or $10 is probably the price of a movie or a beer, so time to man up people!

Oh and to make matters worse, he just lost his No Scope sponsorship after less than one day. They cited "racist and discriminatory" behavior on his chat. Total BS, anyone who has seen his stream knows that he has never said or done anything like that! Just like he said, go look through ALL his vods, you won't find anything like that at all! Just more garbage perpetuated by people.


You're comparing TotalBiscuit's cancer to ProTech's wisdom teeth? I don't know much about the latter problem (as you didn't go into any detail), but to downplay TB's situation (and then make up the absurd notion that ProTech "has literally provided 100+ times more content than TB", which exactly zero educated people from this community will agree with you on) is despicable.

I'm all for ProTech starting some sort of kickstarter or charity fund or whatever if he wants to try and receive more community support (and he seems to have enough of a following that he'll probably make some money that he may need), but you starting off your rant by downplaying other community members' situations and then trying to guilt trip us into donating by saying that ProTech's job-of-choice doesn't pay super well, is not the way to go about this problem.

I wish ProTech good health and a safe recovery from whatever his medical issue is. If he does have a serious issue that he believes deserves community support, I hope that he explains his situation in a much less aggressive manner than you have.

EDIT: Also, it doesn't help to full-out lie and say that ProTech doesn't act in a racist or discriminatory manner, especially when people dump screen shots of him doing exactly that all the time (e.g., two posts ago). Instead, you might not want to mention anything related to his bigotry when looking to garner support from the community, and just focus on his medical issue.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
sc2fanboi
Profile Joined August 2014
United States2 Posts
August 25 2014 19:54 GMT
#634
Protech streaming right now. Time to man up people.
Gaskal
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada241 Posts
August 25 2014 22:03 GMT
#635
I'm pretty sure both sc2fanboi and iverysmiles are sock accounts of Protech....sigh
"Get all the money, build all the units...kill the other guy"
vNmMasterT
Profile Joined September 2012
68 Posts
September 16 2014 16:51 GMT
#636
On August 24 2014 20:38 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 08:38 iverysmiles wrote:
Community was really supportive of Total biscuit when he got sick, he's a good guy and all, but Protech has literally provided 100+ times more content than TB.

As a lot of you know, for about 6 months now, Protech has been struggling with a debilitating wisdom teeth condition. Whatever controversy has surrounded it, one thing is for certain, he has a serious condition that needs to be addressed. For the procedure he needs $1700.

The fact that he has been bearing this pain specifically to CONSTANTLY GIVE VIEWERS CONTENT shows just how committed he is to the community.

Now, to head off any people say that protech gets money blah blah blah, well guess what? In the real world people have BILLS to pay. Not everyone can just go out and pay $1700 out of pocket!

He has been averaging about $2000-3000 a month in just donations which is classified as LOW INCOME.

Anyone who has watched streams for awhile KNOWS that the ad revenue is GARBAGE! As he has said it is laughable at around $300 a month!

Protech has averaged around 165 subscribers and has now gotten up to 200. Before you say wow, that's another $1000 a month, you need to THINK and realize that Twitch takes HALF of that money! He only sees an extra $500 a month from that $1000!

He has said very specifically that he spends all his money on putting a roof over his head and money in his belly. Anything left over he uses to pay his bills. He doesn't waste it on drugs or any crap like that.

If we are going to pull together as a community and get this guy enough money to get past his monthly bills, I feel like we could do that if he were up to around $5,000 a month. If he is breaking even now, then he should be able to get his MUCH NEEDED operation at that level.

A lot of people talk a lot about the community and helping out, but I bet a lot of people watch his stream and don't donate or subscribe and probably even use adblock. I agree with Protech, he has been doing this for FOUR YEARS and makes a pittance compared to what other streamers make. He's said he really deserves that kind of success and income but he has continued streaming despite not getting what he is worth.

$5 or $10 is probably the price of a movie or a beer, so time to man up people!

Oh and to make matters worse, he just lost his No Scope sponsorship after less than one day. They cited "racist and discriminatory" behavior on his chat. Total BS, anyone who has seen his stream knows that he has never said or done anything like that! Just like he said, go look through ALL his vods, you won't find anything like that at all! Just more garbage perpetuated by people.


You're comparing TotalBiscuit's cancer to ProTech's wisdom teeth? I don't know much about the latter problem (as you didn't go into any detail), but to downplay TB's situation (and then make up the absurd notion that ProTech "has literally provided 100+ times more content than TB", which exactly zero educated people from this community will agree with you on) is despicable.

I'm all for ProTech starting some sort of kickstarter or charity fund or whatever if he wants to try and receive more community support (and he seems to have enough of a following that he'll probably make some money that he may need), but you starting off your rant by downplaying other community members' situations and then trying to guilt trip us into donating by saying that ProTech's job-of-choice doesn't pay super well, is not the way to go about this problem.

I wish ProTech good health and a safe recovery from whatever his medical issue is. If he does have a serious issue that he believes deserves community support, I hope that he explains his situation in a much less aggressive manner than you have.

EDIT: Also, it doesn't help to full-out lie and say that ProTech doesn't act in a racist or discriminatory manner, especially when people dump screen shots of him doing exactly that all the time (e.g., two posts ago). Instead, you might not want to mention anything related to his bigotry when looking to garner support from the community, and just focus on his medical issue.


Hey, when are you gonna tell your little brother Jason Mango aka StellarMango aka Paragon to stop hacking? His twitch just got banned I heard. You always seem to be on the moral high ground, why do you have such a scum of a little brother?
Gaskal
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada241 Posts
September 16 2014 17:21 GMT
#637
On September 17 2014 01:51 vNmMasterT wrote:
Hey, when are you gonna tell your little brother Jason Mango aka StellarMango aka Paragon to stop hacking? His twitch just got banned I heard. You always seem to be on the moral high ground, why do you have such a scum of a little brother?

So absolutely nothing to do with Protech's medical condition nor addressed what DPB said, what a waste of a post...



If PT fans weren't such douchebags maybe he'd actually have a better reputation...
"Get all the money, build all the units...kill the other guy"
vNmMasterT
Profile Joined September 2012
68 Posts
September 16 2014 17:43 GMT
#638
I don't see how Protech's medical condition has anything to do with him either. If he had so much time stalking this thread and being a "good guy" (just look at the huge posts here in this thread) then he has time to teach his little brother not to be a scumbag.
Gaskal
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada241 Posts
September 17 2014 00:46 GMT
#639
On September 17 2014 02:43 vNmMasterT wrote:
I don't see how Protech's medical condition has anything to do with him either. If he had so much time stalking this thread and being a "good guy" (just look at the huge posts here in this thread) then he has time to teach his little brother not to be a scumbag.

Such saltiness
"Get all the money, build all the units...kill the other guy"
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44184 Posts
September 17 2014 12:45 GMT
#640
On September 17 2014 01:51 vNmMasterT wrote:
You always seem to be on the moral high ground


Thank you for your kind words; I appreciate you seeing me as a role model and one who always takes the moral high ground. Maybe you see something in myself that I don't, but you've inspired me to continue being the best person I possibly can! That being said, this stream should be about ProTech, so please feel free to PM me if you would like to pay me any other compliments!

+ Show Spoiler +
My brother's Twitch did not get banned because of hacking. If you want to discuss anything, PM me. Publicly making accusations aimed at other TL users or their family members is pretty petty... especially when one could just as easily handle things privately. Also, you clearly don't know my brother, because he's not "scum". And I won't be discussing this any further in a public thread.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
DomesticatedPimp
Profile Joined May 2014
3 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-27 17:09:28
September 27 2014 17:07 GMT
#641
StellarMango is so much better than Protech it's not even funny. He has been in GM since WoL and has always been much higher rated than Protech in the 2v2 ladder. The hacking accusations are getting so old. It is very clear that StellarMango is not a hacker, otherwise Blizzard would have banned him already. People like Protech accuse him to hack only because Mango has beat him too many times. Believe me, I've watched Mango's stream and getting Protech is EZ win 99% of the time.
vNmMasterT
Profile Joined September 2012
68 Posts
October 02 2014 02:25 GMT
#642
StellarMango... LOL

I guess besides hacking to GM, streamcheating vs Protech is his other method to get attention. Just pathetic.
Fyrex
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada102 Posts
December 14 2014 00:15 GMT
#643
Isn't titling your stream "#1 NA/EU" really misleading?
You're just click-baiting for viewers with false claims... that "2v2" should really be at the end.
odem
Profile Joined August 2011
143 Posts
December 14 2014 11:03 GMT
#644
Isn't it misleading for 1v1 players to claim #1 NA when they actually never achieved something in 2v2 tho? O_O
castleeMg
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Canada760 Posts
December 14 2014 16:06 GMT
#645
he seems like a very negative person, has characteristics of an egomaniac, if hes in a tight situation where hes losing he'll often automatically jump to -> this person is a hacker "FORSURE" with no real proof, just assumptions. cringe worthy stream
AKA: castle[eMg]@USEast/ iCCup
Fyrex
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada102 Posts
December 14 2014 23:40 GMT
#646
On December 14 2014 20:03 odem wrote:
Isn't it misleading for 1v1 players to claim #1 NA when they actually never achieved something in 2v2 tho? O_O

no
odem
Profile Joined August 2011
143 Posts
December 15 2014 00:03 GMT
#647
On December 15 2014 08:40 Fyrex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2014 20:03 odem wrote:
Isn't it misleading for 1v1 players to claim #1 NA when they actually never achieved something in 2v2 tho? O_O

no

yes yes
Fyrex
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada102 Posts
December 15 2014 00:56 GMT
#648
On December 15 2014 09:03 odem wrote:
yes yes


It should simply be clarified in the stream title, that was the point of my post.

You're seemingly just being a blind fanboy and not thinking about this.

The "random" 2v2 community is a very small fraction of the starcraft community. Browsing the twitch streams and seeing ProTech with nothing but "#1 NA/EU" as the title is an obvious attempt at free viewers as it is a massive claim, and something he simply has not accomplished.
odem
Profile Joined August 2011
143 Posts
December 15 2014 12:59 GMT
#649
lol, i know what u mean.
#1 NA are the top of the op. the ultimate machines. vs these guys everything is no contest. to believe an american could actually achieve #1 NA is kinda crazy. #1 NA is like the end boss of all the bigger 1v1 tournaments like code s or wcs finals. even wladimir klitschko and tiger woods said that #1 NA is something like their childrens dream of unparalleled success and achievement. its really outrageous to claim this spot while actually only playing some meaningless 2v2 which is even at the top just full of low wood level players. im totally with u bro!
Fyrex
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada102 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-16 01:34:34
December 16 2014 01:25 GMT
#650
On December 15 2014 21:59 odem wrote:
lol, i know what u mean.
#1 NA are the top of the op. the ultimate machines. vs these guys everything is no contest. to believe an american could actually achieve #1 NA is kinda crazy. #1 NA is like the end boss of all the bigger 1v1 tournaments like code s or wcs finals. even wladimir klitschko and tiger woods said that #1 NA is something like their childrens dream of unparalleled success and achievement. its really outrageous to claim this spot while actually only playing some meaningless 2v2 which is even at the top just full of low wood level players. im totally with u bro!


Your lack of an argument is only making you look childish.

I never claimed #1 NA to be the holy grail of skill. Though it IS a great accomplishment that he has *never* accomplished. He also did have "#1 EU" alongside the NA. If you don't think #1 EU/NA is an irrational claim then you lack the basic competence to post. I also never said 2v2 was meaningless, my only point was that it should specify "2v2" as most people would assume it is 1v1 (the majority fanbase) and click on his stream. Your polar extremes and sarcasm aren't contributing to this discussion.

@ ProTech please stop click-baiting and perma-banning those that call you out on it, it's pathetic. Of course you're just going to laugh your way to the bank as you lie to get more fans like odem.
odem
Profile Joined August 2011
143 Posts
December 16 2014 01:48 GMT
#651
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User was warned for this post
meadbert
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States681 Posts
January 13 2015 17:22 GMT
#652
Just one good reason to watch ProTech's stream:


FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
February 05 2015 06:47 GMT
#653
Everyone on NA maphacks. EVERYONE!

I wasn't aware you even thought I was a maphacker until Polar told me why this barcode just quit against us everytime we matched. Then I assumed you thought Polar hacked. Now I found out I maphack too via going onto your stream.

Is NA full of maphackers? Yes. Are you insanely, overly paranoid? Ridiculous.
snejstorm
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany52 Posts
February 26 2015 22:30 GMT
#654
"the amount of autism and down syndrome i see in the chat is killing me. are you fucking retards?"
"seriously - just shut the hell up - you are stupid - that's the most amount of down syndrome i have seen in a long time"
(c) ProTech, today

Seriously protech, go watch another streamer who understands how to build a community of viewers. I once was a great fan of you and 2v2 games in general.

But the way you keep ranting about others and eveything and everyone; Insulting your viewers and banning each person you disagree with, even regulars who have been watching you for three years...
I hope you find another game to stream, as SC2 obviously is not fullfilling you anymore. Or find a new purpose in life other than streaming 24/7. That's without perspective anyway.

So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish.
QuakePhil
Profile Joined September 2013
United States14 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-20 11:23:09
March 20 2015 11:18 GMT
#655
as long as protech continues to berate and shit on his viewers, he will stay at 200 viewers, just like he was at 200 viewers 1.5 years ago when I subbed, just like he was at 200 last year when he banned me for asking a single question, and just like he was at 200 the other day when I dropped in (of course the first word I heard out of the stream was "hacker" 5 minutes later followed by a diatribe against winter for some reason and another ban lol)

masters skill at sc2 doesn't automatically make you masters skill at streaming
Damn I should have joined teamliquid sooner :) http://quakephil.com http://qw.quakephil.com
Hollow
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Canada2180 Posts
March 20 2015 19:39 GMT
#656
ProTech is bad and sad. I tuned in once and never returned. He can't take constructive advice and assumes he's just better than everyone. He's not. He really should move on with his life and try to learn some humility.
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
April 11 2015 15:09 GMT
#657
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Bunch of whiners, it's fucking hysteria.

WAAAAAAAAAAH ProTech was mean to me!

lelelele
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
April 11 2015 15:11 GMT
#658
On February 05 2015 15:47 FabledIntegral wrote:
Everyone on NA maphacks. EVERYONE!

I wasn't aware you even thought I was a maphacker until Polar told me why this barcode just quit against us everytime we matched. Then I assumed you thought Polar hacked. Now I found out I maphack too via going onto your stream.

Is NA full of maphackers? Yes. Are you insanely, overly paranoid? Ridiculous.



Or I just choose not play filth like you?
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
April 11 2015 15:18 GMT
#659
On March 20 2015 20:18 QuakePhil wrote:
as long as protech continues to berate and shit on his viewers, he will stay at 200 viewers, just like he was at 200 viewers 1.5 years ago when I subbed, just like he was at 200 last year when he banned me for asking a single question, and just like he was at 200 the other day when I dropped in (of course the first word I heard out of the stream was "hacker" 5 minutes later followed by a diatribe against winter for some reason and another ban lol)

masters skill at sc2 doesn't automatically make you masters skill at streaming



No shit shirly,

I've never tried to make people like you like me, and I never will. I am who I am, and you can rage all you want, it won't change. If that means I stay at 200 viewers for the rest of my " career " then so be it.

I am not going to suck you off so you watch my stream. My personality is what it is, and guess what it's not going to change because being yourself is the only way to be.

That is all.
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
April 11 2015 15:19 GMT
#660
On December 16 2014 10:25 Fyrex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2014 21:59 odem wrote:
lol, i know what u mean.
#1 NA are the top of the op. the ultimate machines. vs these guys everything is no contest. to believe an american could actually achieve #1 NA is kinda crazy. #1 NA is like the end boss of all the bigger 1v1 tournaments like code s or wcs finals. even wladimir klitschko and tiger woods said that #1 NA is something like their childrens dream of unparalleled success and achievement. its really outrageous to claim this spot while actually only playing some meaningless 2v2 which is even at the top just full of low wood level players. im totally with u bro!


Your lack of an argument is only making you look childish.

I never claimed #1 NA to be the holy grail of skill. Though it IS a great accomplishment that he has *never* accomplished. He also did have "#1 EU" alongside the NA. If you don't think #1 EU/NA is an irrational claim then you lack the basic competence to post. I also never said 2v2 was meaningless, my only point was that it should specify "2v2" as most people would assume it is 1v1 (the majority fanbase) and click on his stream. Your polar extremes and sarcasm aren't contributing to this discussion.

@ ProTech please stop click-baiting and perma-banning those that call you out on it, it's pathetic. Of course you're just going to laugh your way to the bank as you lie to get more fans like odem.



Quick post in the user-stream because if I do it'll change things I don't like!
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
April 11 2015 15:20 GMT
#661
On December 15 2014 01:06 castleeMg wrote:
he seems like a very negative person, has characteristics of an egomaniac, if hes in a tight situation where hes losing he'll often automatically jump to -> this person is a hacker "FORSURE" with no real proof, just assumptions. cringe worthy stream



Says the dweeb who spends all but 5 mins on the stream, but that's ok haters gonna HATE!
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-11 15:21:34
April 11 2015 15:21 GMT
#662
On September 28 2014 02:07 DomesticatedPimp wrote:
StellarMango is so much better than Protech it's not even funny. He has been in GM since WoL and has always been much higher rated than Protech in the 2v2 ladder. The hacking accusations are getting so old. It is very clear that StellarMango is not a hacker, otherwise Blizzard would have banned him already. People like Protech accuse him to hack only because Mango has beat him too many times. Believe me, I've watched Mango's stream and getting Protech is EZ win 99% of the time.





AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND mango's twitch channel banned, his SC2 account is banned, and now you look like a fucking moron, grats!
GenuineSkill
Profile Joined May 2015
1 Post
May 12 2015 13:17 GMT
#663
Do you have your Wisdom teeth in your head still? I remember you having a donation fund raiser to get surgery for Wisdom Teeth removal. Are they out of your head yet? Or did you use that money for something else?
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
January 26 2016 09:42 GMT
#664
Live son, we're live son, we're live son www.twitch.tv/protech
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-28 15:19:12
January 28 2016 15:18 GMT
#665
VID: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=[cLsC]Rab Cheat-Banned
mantequilla
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Turkey779 Posts
March 16 2016 15:41 GMT
#666
why not showing up on TL man I thought you quit :D
Age of Mythology forever!
CannonKingPrime
Profile Joined August 2016
57 Posts
August 24 2016 03:10 GMT
#667
On March 17 2016 00:41 mantequilla wrote:
why not showing up on TL man I thought you quit :D

This site has a hate/hate relationship with ProTech. He was featured, then not, then featured, and now apparently delisted because his account is nuked. Whatever the reason is, ProTech has a great, consistent stream and is really the only good 2v2 streamer.

It would be a disservice to downplay ProTech's dedication. The effort and toughness that goes into (1) streaming almost every day for many, many years, (2) streaming many hours each time, (3) playing his hardest pretty much all the time, and (4) regularly interacting with viewers, is mind-boggling. The thing that's stood out to me is that 99% of the time, no matter his mood, ProTech is focused on making the show fun for viewers. This involves things like interacting with chat for a half hour while waiting for a 2v2 queue. And maintaining a relatively cool head even when things get frustrating (and there's no denying that ProTech's occupation itself is trying and frustrating).

Whatever venial sins ProTech has committed (knee-jerk map hack accusations, suspicious fundraising, unremarkable BM), they do not warrant delisting what might be, on balance, the best SC2 stream since the game's start. I invite critics to name a relatively high-level streamer who has demonstrated anything even verging on ProTech's dedication to the game and to providing an entertaining stream. Hell, you can even drop the "high-level" qualifier as that's a can of worms.

What really bugs me is when some "famous gamer" who decides to pick up SC2 to fiddle with the campaign is featured, but one of the most watched streams is invisible. So many people who mean zero to the scene get top billing. I found ProTech's stream through TL many years ago, so it's important.
-KG-
Profile Joined October 2012
Denmark1206 Posts
October 23 2016 00:46 GMT
#668
Pure dedication - deserves some appreciation by the community and TL!
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ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
August 31 2018 00:54 GMT
#669
Live for 2 more hours! www.twitch.tv/protech
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
August 31 2018 20:06 GMT
#670
Live for 7 more hours! www.twitch.tv/protech
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
January 26 2023 02:25 GMT
#671


Dreams came true! Thanks to all the support!

Here's to another year of streaming!
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