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SonuvBob
Aiur21550 Posts
On May 08 2011 07:06 hifriend wrote: I wonder if any decent amount of koreans watched the epic series of today. :p They might not be that interested now that all the korean players got knocked out. I think Thorzain has gotten himself a lot of Korean fans. | ||
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-Zoda-
France3578 Posts
On May 03 2011 01:10 Tomken wrote: "When facing a tough challenger, trust your CPU!" - rofl + Show Spoiler + Oh yeah, supidly funny, like a lot of cms... Anyway, we have no popstars making commercials for computer materials in Europe... | ||
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Chipbot
United States14 Posts
On May 08 2011 05:34 norlock wrote: The Korean TSL cast doesn't get broadcasted until Sunday 3:00KST, so in about 4.5 hrs from this post.Hup hurry up Fantasy I am counting on you! xD make my day | ||
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LifebaneLive
Germany25 Posts
On May 08 2011 09:59 -Zoda- wrote: Oh yeah, supidly funny, like a lot of cms... Anyway, we have no popstars making commercials for computer materials in Europe... I love how it actually seems normal in the Starcraft community to speak about "europe" and not the respective land someone is living in, however in germany we have video game commercials with celebrities and a few other nations might have those aswell. | ||
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SiZ.FaNtAsY
Korea (South)1497 Posts
Reactions from PLAY XP like always. Before RO 4 DAy 1 "Woah it's TvT" "Is it the finals?" "Kas is one of the best Terrans in Europe who lost to MC 0-4 and Thorzain is one of the best also from Sweden who beat MC 3-2. THey're all connected to MC" "Go THORZAIN!" AFTER THE GAMES "-_____- 4-1....?" FOllowed by Koreans confused how the result was 4:1 cause of the mistake OP made making it BO5 "Kas played below my expectation. He was known to be the best European in TvT. I feel as though Kas played horribly rather than Thorzain playing well. At least the games were fun" "Both Thorzain and Kas are former WC3 Players. Kas dominated Nada before in the same matchup, it's a shame he didn't play well today" That's really it >.< | ||
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
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dartoo
India2889 Posts
 kinda sad they arent as interested, but then similarly some people here dont watch the gsl after foreigners get knocked out. | ||
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Soulforged
Latvia973 Posts
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killerdog
Denmark6522 Posts
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
On May 09 2011 03:36 killerdog wrote: in the op you have ro8 day1, ro8 day2, and then yesterday as quarter finals... ro8 is quarterfinals, ro4 is semis. fix'd | ||
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SiZ.FaNtAsY
Korea (South)1497 Posts
"Feel like best foreign toss Naniwa will win" "Both Naniwa and Hasuobs are getting killed in NASL and IPL but managed to get to RO4 in this tourney" In respone "Naniwa is doing well in NASL and Hasuobs isn't doing too bad. Also none of them entered IPL. Please think and know what you're saying before making false claims. Also Naniwa was doing well even before this tourney and Hasuobs is doing well in this tourney" AFTER THE RO4 DAY 2 "Wow that was quick" "Here's watch funny about foreigners... After the 4 gate in Dreamhack MC got lots of shit from them. Even when one of the game White-Ra won MC 4 gated. When White-Ra 4 gates they don't say anything and watch in awe. They criticize Koreans when they 4 gate but they except for 1 game it they just 4 gate'd. Sigh... This was one of the most boring PvP's I ever seen. But it's fitting for a TSL RO4" In response to above post "Here are some reactions from Teamliquid. - Another 4 gate? Stop doing the same thing Naniwa - Are you satisfied winning by 4 gate? - RO4 is PvP and Hasuobs didn't prepare enough They also grilled the players too But I feel MC is more targeted due to his (Arrogance? Or his attitude.. But alot of foreigners like MC too)" And more comments regarding not the games but basically insulting the foreigners for being biased. Saying the last game was worse than the proxy 4 gate by MC in dreamhack and how the matches were really boring. Nothing really worth translating unless you guys want it. Let me know! | ||
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Dattish
Sweden6297 Posts
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Kiichol
Sweden182 Posts
And yes I would love to hear the Koreans talk shit about us, so please do tell ^^ | ||
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nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
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hugman
Sweden4644 Posts
Naniwa vs HasuObs was a really bad series, and even though a lot of ppl gave Naniwa crap it wasn't nearly as much crap as MC got. Now, I don't think either should get crap from the fans, but it's still somewhat of a double standard. | ||
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Influ
Germany780 Posts
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GhostFall
United States830 Posts
In response to above post "Here are some reactions from Teamliquid. - Another 4 gate? Stop doing the same thing Naniwa - Are you satisfied winning by 4 gate? - RO4 is PvP and Hasuobs didn't prepare enough translation of a translation of a translation. | ||
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Clbull
United Kingdom1439 Posts
On May 09 2011 21:25 SiZ.FaNtAsY wrote: "Wow that was quick" "Here's watch funny about foreigners... After the 4 gate in Dreamhack MC got lots of shit from them. Even when one of the game White-Ra won MC 4 gated. When White-Ra 4 gates they don't say anything and watch in awe. They criticize Koreans when they 4 gate but they except for 1 game it they just 4 gate'd. Sigh... This was one of the most boring PvP's I ever seen. But it's fitting for a TSL RO4" In response to above post "Here are some reactions from Teamliquid. - Another 4 gate? Stop doing the same thing Naniwa - Are you satisfied winning by 4 gate? - RO4 is PvP and Hasuobs didn't prepare enough They also grilled the players too But I feel MC is more targeted due to his (Arrogance? Or his attitude.. But alot of foreigners like MC too)" And more comments regarding not the games but basically insulting the foreigners for being biased. Saying the last game was worse than the proxy 4 gate by MC in dreamhack and how the matches were really boring. Nothing really worth translating unless you guys want it. Let me know! As a Western viewer, I feel I have to chime in on what these Korean netizens just said. Do they think I'm impressed with players like Naniwa because he's Western and he pretty much 4 gated his way to victory in the semi-finals? Nope. I think at least two of those 4-Gates were cheap victories where Naniwa just overwhelmed HasuObs with units to the point where no amount of uber micro would save him. In fact, I think HasuObs outplayed him easily (as shown in games 1, 2 and 3 where HasuObs showed way superior micro). It's just a shame that 4-Gate is so imbalanced at the moment that it's prompted Blizzard themselves to increase the research time by 20 seconds and make Sentries produce quicker from a Gateway. I know I'm gonna get a lot of disagreement here but I'm not exactly a fan of MC becauase he can and does cheese a lot (namely TSL3 Ro16 where he 3-0'd WhiteRa using three consecutive 4 Gate rushes and the Dreamhack finals where he won the tourney using a proxy 2 gateway rush in WhiteRa's base. However, I do appreciate MC as a player because he can play a straight up macro game and I'm always impressed with him when he does. Namely his series with Thorzain and Game 4 and what a marvellous display of macro and micro from both players. If you can play arguably one of the most epic matches in Starcraft II's 8 or so month history and come out on top as the victor like that..... then I will have respect for you. And this is EXACTLY what MC did in the TSL Ro8 Game 4. | ||
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GhostFall
United States830 Posts
I know I'm gonna get a lot of disagreement here but I'm not exactly a fan of MC becauase he can and does cheese a lot (namely TSL3 Ro16 where he 3-0'd WhiteRa using three consecutive 4 Gate rushes and the Dreamhack finals where he won the tourney using a proxy 2 gateway rush in WhiteRa's base. This is exactly the kind of attitude that they're criticizing. The fact you even think any of the examples you gave for what MC did was cheesy, is what they find funny. What MC did to win Dreamhack finals is technically considered cheese. But in context of the b05 MC recognized White-ra perform the same opening every single time, and MC punished him for it with a proxy 2 gate. Do you not understand how much skill is involved in just being able to make that jump in strategy? Likewise, 4 gate is standard in PvP. It is the strategy you are suppose to practice and understand. So why does the player executing 4 gate get more flak than the player who fails to defend it? It's like if I called Kas a cheesy scrub for going marine/tank against Nada. You can argue it doesn't take very much skill to perform and that it is terribly unfun to watch, but those are problems with game design rather than the player. Why are you calling the player cheesy for playing standard? Why are you criticizing the player for doing what it takes to win? Hate the game, not the player. | ||
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
On May 10 2011 06:59 Clbull wrote: As a Western viewer, I feel I have to chime in on what these Korean netizens just said. Do they think I'm impressed with players like Naniwa because he's Western and he pretty much 4 gated his way to victory in the semi-finals? Nope. I think at least two of those 4-Gates were cheap victories where Naniwa just overwhelmed HasuObs with units to the point where no amount of uber micro would save him. In fact, I think HasuObs outplayed him easily (as shown in games 1, 2 and 3 where HasuObs showed way superior micro). It's just a shame that 4-Gate is so imbalanced at the moment that it's prompted Blizzard themselves to increase the research time by 20 seconds and make Sentries produce quicker from a Gateway. I know I'm gonna get a lot of disagreement here but I'm not exactly a fan of MC becauase he can and does cheese a lot (namely TSL3 Ro16 where he 3-0'd WhiteRa using three consecutive 4 Gate rushes and the Dreamhack finals where he won the tourney using a proxy 2 gateway rush in WhiteRa's base. However, I do appreciate MC as a player because he can play a straight up macro game and I'm always impressed with him when he does. Namely his series with Thorzain and Game 4 and what a marvellous display of macro and micro from both players. If you can play arguably one of the most epic matches in Starcraft II's 8 or so month history and come out on top as the victor like that..... then I will have respect for you. And this is EXACTLY what MC did in the TSL Ro8 Game 4. Pretty astounding how little understanding of PvP you have if you think hasuobs was outplaying Naniwa in that series. Fwiw naniwa is perfectly capable of playing macro games as is MC.. Kind of a poorly designed match up, though.. | ||
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