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RO32 day 1
PlayXP by Durp.
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On March 20 2011 23:48 Durp wrote:
A few translated Korean netizen reactions from PlayXP
"BoxeR's GF reports 2 second lag delay- BoxeR's missed EMPS weren't his fault"
"Really nervous about the lag delays"
"BoxeR's opponent is not even a Code-A calibre player"
"As an eSports leading country I somewhat feel ashamed that FD was taken out 2:0"
"WELL... we still have NesTea"
"Wow I just watched the games... connection is so horrible. BoxeR DCing -_- well, it is a "minor league" + Show Spoiler +
"I was wondering why boxer didn't control his marauders in game 2... I guess that was because cause of the lag..."
"BoxeR... you really need to step it up"
A little back and forth of 2 Knetizens:
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Seems to be many Koreans are focusing on the lag problems, specifically in BoxeR's set. I don't know if they are aware of the TL ruling on G1 or why it was made; I'll keep digging.
A few translated Korean netizen reactions from PlayXP
"BoxeR's GF reports 2 second lag delay- BoxeR's missed EMPS weren't his fault"
"Really nervous about the lag delays"
"BoxeR's opponent is not even a Code-A calibre player"
"As an eSports leading country I somewhat feel ashamed that FD was taken out 2:0"
"WELL... we still have NesTea"
"Wow I just watched the games... connection is so horrible. BoxeR DCing -_- well, it is a "minor league" + Show Spoiler +
this comment frustrated me, seemed to be serious and not sarcastic with his "minor league" comment.
"I was wondering why boxer didn't control his marauders in game 2... I guess that was because cause of the lag..."
"BoxeR... you really need to step it up"
A little back and forth of 2 Knetizens:
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"If there was a delay of 2 sec, its impossible to play the game. if i were to feel 2 sec delay while playing, its absurd. that means the game reacts after a sec or two following the mouse/keyboard input. I did watch fd's games and i saw some effects of lags in his games too (maybe they were just mistakes). If it was a bit of like sc1 w/e but 2 sec is ridiculous"
"There's a good chance that people are lying about 2 sec delay, and every player has to deal with that lag. So i don't think it is appropriate to talk about who gets benefits/disadvantages from the lag. I personally believe if you are a pro you should be ready and able to deal with such problems."
"If you are a pro, you want to perform at a perfect condition. Even Tiger Woods, i think he was quoted saying he does not play unless he is in perfect shape. it's not a pros responsibility to perform at a top level in any situation. A true pro is whom is able to perform at his/her full potential given ideal conditions. i don't think many of you guys have played on foreign servers, but there is instantaneous lag rather than lag that is continuous throughout the whole game."
"There's a good chance that people are lying about 2 sec delay, and every player has to deal with that lag. So i don't think it is appropriate to talk about who gets benefits/disadvantages from the lag. I personally believe if you are a pro you should be ready and able to deal with such problems."
"If you are a pro, you want to perform at a perfect condition. Even Tiger Woods, i think he was quoted saying he does not play unless he is in perfect shape. it's not a pros responsibility to perform at a top level in any situation. A true pro is whom is able to perform at his/her full potential given ideal conditions. i don't think many of you guys have played on foreign servers, but there is instantaneous lag rather than lag that is continuous throughout the whole game."
Seems to be many Koreans are focusing on the lag problems, specifically in BoxeR's set. I don't know if they are aware of the TL ruling on G1 or why it was made; I'll keep digging.
GomTV by brobear.
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On March 20 2011 17:26 brobear wrote:
Let me translate the GOMTV netizen comments for you guys. (Since the google translate button doesn't seem to work too well)
Most of the comments are negative in regards to the overall skill level of players in the foreign scene. Korean netizens are brutal...
-"ThorZaIN, who knocked out Fruitdealer, plays very well..."
-"Was that really Fruitdealer? Why is he so bad???"
-"Can't do much about it... They're playing in 2-second delay after EMP conditions..."
-"Fruitdealer's condition is terrible... I wanted Korean dominance..."
-"The Nightend and Boxer game is SO boring. Seems like a game played in Korea 6 months ago. I'm yawning while watching this after having seen MC's dynamic playing. Battles after maxing armies... This was the reason they reviewed sc2 to be boring before."
-"NightEnd protoss can't even go into the preliminaries in our country, right? Lol this is hilarious."
-"It's been a while since I've seen a protoss using colossi... It's still far away for the foreign scene to catch up to our level of play."
-"Boxer's skill level... So bad."
-"I feel for boxer's current state in the game... Don't know about the Terran's side of play, but there were a lot of points when boxer could've poked and done some damage, yet he couldn't. T_T boxer fighting."
-"Can't make strong definitive attacks... Can't even hit code A round 16 wit this type of playing level..."
-"Not just being a boxer anti-fan, but if you seriously consider boxer's skill level, doesn't seem like he can even hit code A round of 8's."
-"Are these really matches played by progamers? Did I watch it wrong?"
-"The EMP missed by boxer, the early marauder control in game 2, etc., are apparently all due to the quake in Japan and the lag caused due to it.
And a few comments regarding the bad commentator (I guess for the Korean commentator who dubbed it, since Chill and Day9 are freakin awesome).
I'll update it more tomorrow, if you guys would like!
Let me translate the GOMTV netizen comments for you guys. (Since the google translate button doesn't seem to work too well)
Most of the comments are negative in regards to the overall skill level of players in the foreign scene. Korean netizens are brutal...
-"ThorZaIN, who knocked out Fruitdealer, plays very well..."
-"Was that really Fruitdealer? Why is he so bad???"
-"Can't do much about it... They're playing in 2-second delay after EMP conditions..."
-"Fruitdealer's condition is terrible... I wanted Korean dominance..."
-"The Nightend and Boxer game is SO boring. Seems like a game played in Korea 6 months ago. I'm yawning while watching this after having seen MC's dynamic playing. Battles after maxing armies... This was the reason they reviewed sc2 to be boring before."
-"NightEnd protoss can't even go into the preliminaries in our country, right? Lol this is hilarious."
-"It's been a while since I've seen a protoss using colossi... It's still far away for the foreign scene to catch up to our level of play."
-"Boxer's skill level... So bad."
-"I feel for boxer's current state in the game... Don't know about the Terran's side of play, but there were a lot of points when boxer could've poked and done some damage, yet he couldn't. T_T boxer fighting."
-"Can't make strong definitive attacks... Can't even hit code A round 16 wit this type of playing level..."
-"Not just being a boxer anti-fan, but if you seriously consider boxer's skill level, doesn't seem like he can even hit code A round of 8's."
-"Are these really matches played by progamers? Did I watch it wrong?"
-"The EMP missed by boxer, the early marauder control in game 2, etc., are apparently all due to the quake in Japan and the lag caused due to it.
And a few comments regarding the bad commentator (I guess for the Korean commentator who dubbed it, since Chill and Day9 are freakin awesome).
I'll update it more tomorrow, if you guys would like!
RO32 day 2
PlayXP by Nostalgia.NA (MC vs Ciara, White-Ra vs Loner)
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On March 21 2011 14:40 Nostalgia.NA wrote:
Here's are some responses of KNetizens from PlayXP on TSL day 2. :b
Ciara vs MC Game 1:
"MC's insane lol, he lost like what..1 zealot? lol"
"Ciara doesn't GG! MC's micro's amazing.."
"MC's opponent must be pissed. He didn't even say GG"
"Ciara needs to suck it up. He didn't even say GG in a game that he knows will be broadcasted all over the place. He saw the three gates and droned up. He shouldn't have attacked in with those lings. It's his fault. Does he think he's too good to even say GG?"
"MC's not one to take something like that sitting down. I'm looking forward to game 2. I wonder what he'll say in an interview in the future regarding this?"
"Didn't MC provoke Ciara first in an interview by saying 'I just know that he's not an exceptional player'? Nevermind the no-GG, he's lucky Ciara didn't cuss or something"
Ciara vs MC game 2:
"Why'd the zerg enter the tournament? He's getting finished with just void rays. lol"
"While the void rays deal damage, the energy on the sentries have stacked! Bye bye zerg."
"Completely one-sided game."
"One thing you guys have to remember! MC must've been affected by the 2 second lag from the quake. But the zerg still couldn't beat him, how sad."
Replies to this lag statement:
"The zerg should be lagging 2 seconds too then"
"No, there is no lag for the NA and still fast for EU people"
"The quake shouldn't matter"
"The underwater cables to the US have been affected by the quake so it matters"
"It lags other people too when I play in the NA server, the spam 'laggy laggy' when I play them"
"That must be a computer problem. Delays only affect the person with bad connection."
"I play on all servers and when I play people on the west, they're all fine while I lag upto
2 seconds with all my clicks and chats."
I'll cut the lag talk short here, but some seem confused about the difference between 'lags' and 'delays after commands'. And I did read a news article somewhere that mentioned the underwater cable affecting connection to the NA from Eastern Asia, but I can't say for sure. I'm lazy to check atm.
"Can't you tell by looking at MC's force fields? Maybe not 2 seconds, but there seems to be at least a second of delay. I think he didn't go lazer-toss without reason. I think he just wanted to push the zerg just with 'attack + click' to not have to deal with micro and lag."
"The force fields of MC certainly weren't on par with what we saw in the GSL finals."
White-Ra vs Loner Game1:
"Lol the toss' force fielding is stupid. He saw there wasn't anything in the bunker, he should've kept things from going in, but decided to trap them with the bunker."
"Isn't White-Ra married with a kid?"
"There's a rumor that he's a farmer that plays games as a hobby."
"I think he's 34 now."
"Yea he has a wife and kid, and a job."
"Is this the protoss that beat Boxer before? Not in SC2, but in SC1."
"Didn't Boxer win that 2:1?"
"No, Boxer lost it was a couple years ago."
"Meanwhile, a comment made on TeamLiquid forum after the game:
'Fucking Chinese...'(this part in English)
....lol what the hell, White-Ra is to blame for that loss."
They are watching the TL forums o:
"If White-Ra's really a farmer...then he's winter-toss. He should be too busy to really play during
other seasons. He gave the impression of being slightly behind the other players in IEM, but I
guess he was busy working. I don't think it's fair to trash talk White-Ra just because he messed
up. I mean look at ThorZaIN. I've never heard of him and he beat FruitDealer. Unimaginable plays
like that could always happen."
"I think the thing about him being a farmer was half-joking. I think he works for a company
(like a businessman)."
"ThorZaIN was a war3 player, a minor game here. It's no surprise people haven't heard of him."
"ThorZaIN had good micro..he could become really big if he came to Korea and practiced here."
Uh..I'll stop here, because to be honest I couldn't fight sleep past this point and KO'd. I want to watch what happened in the games after this point, before I translated stuff regarding them.
Here's are some responses of KNetizens from PlayXP on TSL day 2. :b
Ciara vs MC Game 1:
"MC's insane lol, he lost like what..1 zealot? lol"
"Ciara doesn't GG! MC's micro's amazing.."
"MC's opponent must be pissed. He didn't even say GG"
"Ciara needs to suck it up. He didn't even say GG in a game that he knows will be broadcasted all over the place. He saw the three gates and droned up. He shouldn't have attacked in with those lings. It's his fault. Does he think he's too good to even say GG?"
"MC's not one to take something like that sitting down. I'm looking forward to game 2. I wonder what he'll say in an interview in the future regarding this?"
"Didn't MC provoke Ciara first in an interview by saying 'I just know that he's not an exceptional player'? Nevermind the no-GG, he's lucky Ciara didn't cuss or something"
Ciara vs MC game 2:
"Why'd the zerg enter the tournament? He's getting finished with just void rays. lol"
"While the void rays deal damage, the energy on the sentries have stacked! Bye bye zerg."
"Completely one-sided game."
"One thing you guys have to remember! MC must've been affected by the 2 second lag from the quake. But the zerg still couldn't beat him, how sad."
Replies to this lag statement:
"The zerg should be lagging 2 seconds too then"
"No, there is no lag for the NA and still fast for EU people"
"The quake shouldn't matter"
"The underwater cables to the US have been affected by the quake so it matters"
"It lags other people too when I play in the NA server, the spam 'laggy laggy' when I play them"
"That must be a computer problem. Delays only affect the person with bad connection."
"I play on all servers and when I play people on the west, they're all fine while I lag upto
2 seconds with all my clicks and chats."
I'll cut the lag talk short here, but some seem confused about the difference between 'lags' and 'delays after commands'. And I did read a news article somewhere that mentioned the underwater cable affecting connection to the NA from Eastern Asia, but I can't say for sure. I'm lazy to check atm.
"Can't you tell by looking at MC's force fields? Maybe not 2 seconds, but there seems to be at least a second of delay. I think he didn't go lazer-toss without reason. I think he just wanted to push the zerg just with 'attack + click' to not have to deal with micro and lag."
"The force fields of MC certainly weren't on par with what we saw in the GSL finals."
White-Ra vs Loner Game1:
"Lol the toss' force fielding is stupid. He saw there wasn't anything in the bunker, he should've kept things from going in, but decided to trap them with the bunker."
"Isn't White-Ra married with a kid?"
"There's a rumor that he's a farmer that plays games as a hobby."
"I think he's 34 now."
"Yea he has a wife and kid, and a job."
"Is this the protoss that beat Boxer before? Not in SC2, but in SC1."
"Didn't Boxer win that 2:1?"
"No, Boxer lost it was a couple years ago."
"Meanwhile, a comment made on TeamLiquid forum after the game:
'Fucking Chinese...'(this part in English)
....lol what the hell, White-Ra is to blame for that loss."
They are watching the TL forums o:
"If White-Ra's really a farmer...then he's winter-toss. He should be too busy to really play during
other seasons. He gave the impression of being slightly behind the other players in IEM, but I
guess he was busy working. I don't think it's fair to trash talk White-Ra just because he messed
up. I mean look at ThorZaIN. I've never heard of him and he beat FruitDealer. Unimaginable plays
like that could always happen."
"I think the thing about him being a farmer was half-joking. I think he works for a company
(like a businessman)."
"ThorZaIN was a war3 player, a minor game here. It's no surprise people haven't heard of him."
"ThorZaIN had good micro..he could become really big if he came to Korea and practiced here."
Uh..I'll stop here, because to be honest I couldn't fight sleep past this point and KO'd. I want to watch what happened in the games after this point, before I translated stuff regarding them.
More PlayXP comments by Nostalgia.NA! <3 (White-Ra vs Loner, Jinro vs Morrow, Huk vs Hasuobs)
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On March 22 2011 02:58 Nostalgia.NA wrote:
Rest of the stuff.
White-Ra vs Loner
"After a failed blue flame hellions, I think GGing and leaving is certainly the way to go lol"
"It wasn't even blue flames"
"Ah, my bad hellion drops lol"
"Do these guys not know Shakuras spawn points are far positions only?"
"No way lol"
"They both scouted close positions lol"
"They're both probably scouting for proxies, there's no way Loner's never done Shakuras"
"Who builds proxies at those locations? lol"
"Oh wait, you're right lol"
"The toss should win this"
"The zealots are just outshined by the colossi and you don't really see them too well, but as a terran, a bunch of zealots are so damn much more annoying compared to a bunch of colossi"
"Why'd he pull back just there? Couldn't the marauders win there? Just one colossus and some stalkers..he had 3 vikings and marauders. It looked like they could've gotten that"
"I think it was because of the warp gates. If 5 or more zealots came, the remaining units would've been caught"
"If the marauders went in, he would've lost heavily. Warp gates were summoning stuff in and there was another colossus"
"But I still think it would've been better than running away while losing units. I wasn't talking about going to attack the toss, but standing his ground and taking care of the units that were left"
"Considering the counter attack, I think he made the right call running. The stalkers were blink stalkers too so.."
"I want to see set 4 but I'm so sleepy..Jinro vs MorroW..but I'm about to collapse"
-Knetizen feeling the pain of foreigners watching GSL-
"I feel sorry for Loner in the final match...after the medivac pressure there was a timing where he could've gone in when the toss had 2 colossi..but he gave White-Ra too much time and lost it"
"Marauder running away from stalker while getting hit....huh? (probably a joke pointing out the irony of stalker chasing marauder when it's usually the other way around with concussive shell, I think)"
"Yea, this is my first time seeing White-Ra's games. He seems very weak in the early game and it's a shame Loner couldn't figure that out. White-Ra seems to like macro games with focus on upgrades and exploding in the late game..but Loner's a macro type too so..lol"
"That was like watching a normal ladder PvT. But still there were no carriers or motherships like the rumors say..I've heard that in the NA server, motherships are like hax good...It felt like watching a ladder game of mine heh"
"I play on NA, but I have yet to see a mothership;;; It's all a rumor"
"Huk!!! Let's be surprised after watching this 2nd set Huk!!"
Huk vs HasuObs
"Why do they keep reading the names wrong since yesterday? Just who the hell is HaobsuhObs?"
"Link to games please!!" "Click live stream at Gomplayer!"
"They said they've asked an English speaker to read it and are imitating what they heard;"
"It must be the same thing as a foreigner trying to imitate and say "안녕하세요('Hello' in Korean)" and having a completely different sound coming out...But his ID means 'Hasu Observer'. The ID was made in Korean and yet.."
"Yesterday..you mean the Tyler, Taylor thing right? Anyways, who knows? They're not retards, it can't be that they can't read HasuObs"
"Tyler as Taylor, ThorZaIN as Throzen, HasuObs as HaobsuhObs...you don't necessarily have to be retards to not be able to read"
"Oh they're reading it as HausObs..maybe a German person read it as HausObs to them"
"Just reading it as HasuObs is correct"
"They're saying they're interlocking with TeamLiquid and reading them as they're read. Why's everyone making a fuss? lol"
"Even if it's the same sound, knowing and not knowing the fundamentals make a different when you try to imitate the sound. Try imitating a language that you don't know and see how it works out. Gisado(one of the Korean casters) just fixed it and is reading it correctly as HasuObs now"
"The subtitles are switched;; The red at 9 is HasuObs and the blue at 12 is Huk.."
"I got fooled too lol"
"Who do you think has the lead? For some reason it feels like HasuObs has the advantage..but Huk has quite a bit of immortals;;"
"Depending on the micro, Huk could have the upper hand"
"The force fields are the most important factor. He'll lose if the immortals play"
"PvP is so damn boring...I'd rather find 4warp gate rushes or a proxy gate more fun"
"Ah, Jinro..please purify my eyes (Koreans use the expression 'purify the eye' to refer to something beautiful, fun, relieveing to watch/see)..PvP is killing me..they should nerf tosses crazy or something to keep PvPs from coming up...I'm so tired of this"
"Did MC, BoxeR, FruitDealer..etc all go out of country for this on a plane? or is this online?"
"Koreans do it online, so the ping is crazy"
"They connect to the NA server online. So they say their usual levels of micro are not possible"
"Online. Just the finals are done on location"
"It's online, I think the semis and the finals are offline"
"I forget when, but after a certain point in the tournament, it's done in New York I think"
"Ah...the last match was so boring T T...Why didn't you look at the corner...T T"
Jinro vs MorroW
"Until when will MorroW play zerg..? Besides having skills, the player's personality should match the race..This guy throws away terran after he wins a tournament with 5racks reapers...and since then lol"
"He just switched races. T -> Z"
"Is the lag really that bad -0-?? 2 seconds...Looking at the games I can't feel the lag at all..During Open Beta I've played on the Korean server from NA and don't remember much lag...Korea has fast internet so it can't be taking 2 whole seconds..I once saw Huk play games with NA people from Korea, and he barely lagged"
"They say the earthquake had some effects. KT's cables going out to foreign countries were not affected too much. Maybe it's something like oGs using KT and TSL using LG" -KT and LG are ISPs in Korea-
"Whoa....whoa..."
"A foreign player casting the Kyrix style"
"I can't close my mouth...D:"
"The GSL players are not doing too well..What's wrong with them T T..other than MC everyone's getting by barely or being KO'd in early stages T T
FD - KO'd early
Boxer - Barely
Huk - KO'd early
Lonver - KO'd early
Jinro - Uneasy"
"Jinro KO'd early"
-posted at a later time, after Jinro loses 2:1-
"MorroW lol burrow lol"
"MorroW's good..he got hurt pretty bad from 2 racks and is still able to do that"
"How are the TSL results going so far? Please summarize in one line"
"Upset"
"MC wins, Huk loses, White-Ra wins, Jinro 1:1"
"So you're saying my Toto is being destroyed" -Toto is the betting thing they have on PlayXP where players bet points to guess results and outcomes of games. They use these points to buy icons-
"Wow Jinro..words can't describe. MorroW's amazing too...getting harrassed so much from beginning to end, and still being able to recover and produce masses. Zerg's been getting hit the whole time, but they become so strong if they manage to somehow block the harrasses..Jinro's detailed macro game's off the hook...So I guess a zerg gosu has to at least be able to play like this to win...."
"MorroW was really good too"
"Where are you guys watching the game?"
"GomTV, Gisado"
"GomTV's lagging, watching the foreign stream. Check the notice for match previews"
"It still looked like he blocked it pretty well without bunkers..if that was me, I'd mis-micro my SCVs and marines and lose them all to the banes...but in the end he lost both. GG"
"Really boring lol lol"
"Who won in Jinro vs MorroW? I refreshed real quick and the game ended;; I watched upto the point where Jinro had a massive wall"
"MorroW won 2:1"
"If you aren't going to scan Zerg's base, I think you should at least have one SCV outside to check near the zerglings to decide if you want a bunker or not at least. If you weren't going to scout at all, a bunker would've been nice. Even if he lost a lot of SCVs with the first rush, he did block it. And an SCV was outside the wall. I wish he would've scouted around with it a bit. He's usually very thorough..sad he wasn't this time"
"Seeing the result upto now:
Out of the 7 with experience in GSL 3 advances, 4 got KO'd.
Out of the 4 current GSL code S palyers, 1 advances, 3 got KO'd
1 Code A advances
Shame"
"I think it's a huge handicap to play NA from Korea. I tried and the response time is so slow, I can't even spread or do moving shots with banshees. This is why you should play Korean servers in Korea and NA servers in NA..."
"I don't know how it'd be playing NA from Europe"
"Oh..I heard they were invited so I thought they were flying over to play there..but it was online connecting to NA from Korea? I was wondering what they were talking about with the cable being bad due to the quakes in Japan"
"Europe to NA doesn't matter~"
"Still, watching the foreign players in TSL..FD, Jinro, and Huk dropping at round of 32..even with the big of lag, I think the skills of top foreign players are quite formidable. The GSL players are having a hard time"
"I especially think MorroW and ThorZaIN were very strong. I'm speechless at how MorroW lost so much in the early game and was still able to survive to midgame depending on just mass ling/lings"
"Foreign players are very strong. It's not just a league of our own anymore lol"
"That's right, their skills didn't fall short of our players at all. MC seems to be lucky with his opponents too. But did these players not participate in the IEM?"
"I don't know about them and IEM, but unlike the invited Koreans, I heard they had prelims for this tournament. So their mental state going into this should be quite different"
"Really, I can see GSL being spreading more and more towards being global. Looking at TSL, and watching the players in GSL..Korea is a powerhouse in Starcraft, but I think in Starcraft2, that expression will disappear..Even if the reaction times were slow, the games themselves were excellent. In Starcraf 1, Korea dominates and take everything in WCG, but I don't see that happening in Starcraft 2. There definitely are players among foreigners that can win, just like the players on TSL today. Looking at Jinro's spread today I thought 'Wow..he's faster and better than MarineKing'. They're that scary and good. GSL having doors open to foreigners, I think there are some very skilled players appearing, which I like"
"I think it'll be fun to set up a GSL-level tournament in America and Europe and getting the top 8 from the tournaments and having a word tournament could be fun too"
"Or making another server and getting 16 from each to have a 64 people tournament could be fun too. Get 16 Code S players and 16 Code A players...if Blizzard could support this and have sponsors behind it, I think Starcraft 2 will become really popular"
"Positive affects of GSL players getting KO'd early in TSL:
Foreign users can now feel like 'Hey, I can do this!' And in reality, it doesn't look like there's a huge gap like in Starcraft 1 to have words like Koretoss, Koreg, or Koran. If they do come to Korea, they might be a bit surprised by the Kimchimen's micros due to having no response time issues, but like Huk and Jinro, it's just a problem of adapting. But even in the micro department, seeing that terran spread marines against FruitDealer, I think things will even out real soon"
"To think Jinro would get knocked out.."
"The terran that got FruidDealer was really thorough and good"
"I don't know, now there are a lot micros like marine spreads and moving shots, toss' guardian shields and force fields, and zerg's baneling explosions that require micro speed of 0.x seconds. And having slow response times, I think the results can't be helped but be like this"
"That's why things are looking positive. All that matters is how the cheesemen look at things from their perspective; This delay in response time will help break the prejudice about Koreans being unbeatable. If this happens like in Starcraft 1, this'll just become a league of only Koreans again"
"So this tournament's done on the NA server from Korea? That's hard;; The response time is crap and the Koreans are given too much of a handicap. No wonder the GSL players have been falling left and right"
"So only the Korean region has slow response time in NA?"
"Europe seems to be fine, but the Kimchimen are saying it's 0.5~2seconds late. Blizzard must've given a server handicap"
-Two guys have a really immature argument about the word Kimchimen being used, but I'm not translating it, it's lame-
-More arguments and discusion with pings and numbers and computer network terms I cba'd to look up follow afterwards. Not much more regarding TSL-
I accidentally refreshed this page and lost my first work after being halfway through -_-
So I got lazier the 2nd time around..I'm also sleepy so..excuse the grammatical errors and
other things that might be wrong with this translation. And hm..is this too long?
Rest of the stuff.
White-Ra vs Loner
"After a failed blue flame hellions, I think GGing and leaving is certainly the way to go lol"
"It wasn't even blue flames"
"Ah, my bad hellion drops lol"
"Do these guys not know Shakuras spawn points are far positions only?"
"No way lol"
"They both scouted close positions lol"
"They're both probably scouting for proxies, there's no way Loner's never done Shakuras"
"Who builds proxies at those locations? lol"
"Oh wait, you're right lol"
"The toss should win this"
"The zealots are just outshined by the colossi and you don't really see them too well, but as a terran, a bunch of zealots are so damn much more annoying compared to a bunch of colossi"
"Why'd he pull back just there? Couldn't the marauders win there? Just one colossus and some stalkers..he had 3 vikings and marauders. It looked like they could've gotten that"
"I think it was because of the warp gates. If 5 or more zealots came, the remaining units would've been caught"
"If the marauders went in, he would've lost heavily. Warp gates were summoning stuff in and there was another colossus"
"But I still think it would've been better than running away while losing units. I wasn't talking about going to attack the toss, but standing his ground and taking care of the units that were left"
"Considering the counter attack, I think he made the right call running. The stalkers were blink stalkers too so.."
"I want to see set 4 but I'm so sleepy..Jinro vs MorroW..but I'm about to collapse"
-Knetizen feeling the pain of foreigners watching GSL-
"I feel sorry for Loner in the final match...after the medivac pressure there was a timing where he could've gone in when the toss had 2 colossi..but he gave White-Ra too much time and lost it"
"Marauder running away from stalker while getting hit....huh? (probably a joke pointing out the irony of stalker chasing marauder when it's usually the other way around with concussive shell, I think)"
"Yea, this is my first time seeing White-Ra's games. He seems very weak in the early game and it's a shame Loner couldn't figure that out. White-Ra seems to like macro games with focus on upgrades and exploding in the late game..but Loner's a macro type too so..lol"
"That was like watching a normal ladder PvT. But still there were no carriers or motherships like the rumors say..I've heard that in the NA server, motherships are like hax good...It felt like watching a ladder game of mine heh"
"I play on NA, but I have yet to see a mothership;;; It's all a rumor"
"Huk!!! Let's be surprised after watching this 2nd set Huk!!"
Huk vs HasuObs
"Why do they keep reading the names wrong since yesterday? Just who the hell is HaobsuhObs?"
"Link to games please!!" "Click live stream at Gomplayer!"
"They said they've asked an English speaker to read it and are imitating what they heard;"
"It must be the same thing as a foreigner trying to imitate and say "안녕하세요('Hello' in Korean)" and having a completely different sound coming out...But his ID means 'Hasu Observer'. The ID was made in Korean and yet.."
"Yesterday..you mean the Tyler, Taylor thing right? Anyways, who knows? They're not retards, it can't be that they can't read HasuObs"
"Tyler as Taylor, ThorZaIN as Throzen, HasuObs as HaobsuhObs...you don't necessarily have to be retards to not be able to read"
"Oh they're reading it as HausObs..maybe a German person read it as HausObs to them"
"Just reading it as HasuObs is correct"
"They're saying they're interlocking with TeamLiquid and reading them as they're read. Why's everyone making a fuss? lol"
"Even if it's the same sound, knowing and not knowing the fundamentals make a different when you try to imitate the sound. Try imitating a language that you don't know and see how it works out. Gisado(one of the Korean casters) just fixed it and is reading it correctly as HasuObs now"
"The subtitles are switched;; The red at 9 is HasuObs and the blue at 12 is Huk.."
"I got fooled too lol"
"Who do you think has the lead? For some reason it feels like HasuObs has the advantage..but Huk has quite a bit of immortals;;"
"Depending on the micro, Huk could have the upper hand"
"The force fields are the most important factor. He'll lose if the immortals play"
"PvP is so damn boring...I'd rather find 4warp gate rushes or a proxy gate more fun"
"Ah, Jinro..please purify my eyes (Koreans use the expression 'purify the eye' to refer to something beautiful, fun, relieveing to watch/see)..PvP is killing me..they should nerf tosses crazy or something to keep PvPs from coming up...I'm so tired of this"
"Did MC, BoxeR, FruitDealer..etc all go out of country for this on a plane? or is this online?"
"Koreans do it online, so the ping is crazy"
"They connect to the NA server online. So they say their usual levels of micro are not possible"
"Online. Just the finals are done on location"
"It's online, I think the semis and the finals are offline"
"I forget when, but after a certain point in the tournament, it's done in New York I think"
"Ah...the last match was so boring T T...Why didn't you look at the corner...T T"
Jinro vs MorroW
"Until when will MorroW play zerg..? Besides having skills, the player's personality should match the race..This guy throws away terran after he wins a tournament with 5racks reapers...and since then lol"
"He just switched races. T -> Z"
"Is the lag really that bad -0-?? 2 seconds...Looking at the games I can't feel the lag at all..During Open Beta I've played on the Korean server from NA and don't remember much lag...Korea has fast internet so it can't be taking 2 whole seconds..I once saw Huk play games with NA people from Korea, and he barely lagged"
"They say the earthquake had some effects. KT's cables going out to foreign countries were not affected too much. Maybe it's something like oGs using KT and TSL using LG" -KT and LG are ISPs in Korea-
"Whoa....whoa..."
"A foreign player casting the Kyrix style"
"I can't close my mouth...D:"
"The GSL players are not doing too well..What's wrong with them T T..other than MC everyone's getting by barely or being KO'd in early stages T T
FD - KO'd early
Boxer - Barely
Huk - KO'd early
Lonver - KO'd early
Jinro - Uneasy"
"Jinro KO'd early"
-posted at a later time, after Jinro loses 2:1-
"MorroW lol burrow lol"
"MorroW's good..he got hurt pretty bad from 2 racks and is still able to do that"
"How are the TSL results going so far? Please summarize in one line"
"Upset"
"MC wins, Huk loses, White-Ra wins, Jinro 1:1"
"So you're saying my Toto is being destroyed" -Toto is the betting thing they have on PlayXP where players bet points to guess results and outcomes of games. They use these points to buy icons-
"Wow Jinro..words can't describe. MorroW's amazing too...getting harrassed so much from beginning to end, and still being able to recover and produce masses. Zerg's been getting hit the whole time, but they become so strong if they manage to somehow block the harrasses..Jinro's detailed macro game's off the hook...So I guess a zerg gosu has to at least be able to play like this to win...."
"MorroW was really good too"
"Where are you guys watching the game?"
"GomTV, Gisado"
"GomTV's lagging, watching the foreign stream. Check the notice for match previews"
"It still looked like he blocked it pretty well without bunkers..if that was me, I'd mis-micro my SCVs and marines and lose them all to the banes...but in the end he lost both. GG"
"Really boring lol lol"
"Who won in Jinro vs MorroW? I refreshed real quick and the game ended;; I watched upto the point where Jinro had a massive wall"
"MorroW won 2:1"
"If you aren't going to scan Zerg's base, I think you should at least have one SCV outside to check near the zerglings to decide if you want a bunker or not at least. If you weren't going to scout at all, a bunker would've been nice. Even if he lost a lot of SCVs with the first rush, he did block it. And an SCV was outside the wall. I wish he would've scouted around with it a bit. He's usually very thorough..sad he wasn't this time"
"Seeing the result upto now:
Out of the 7 with experience in GSL 3 advances, 4 got KO'd.
Out of the 4 current GSL code S palyers, 1 advances, 3 got KO'd
1 Code A advances
Shame"
"I think it's a huge handicap to play NA from Korea. I tried and the response time is so slow, I can't even spread or do moving shots with banshees. This is why you should play Korean servers in Korea and NA servers in NA..."
"I don't know how it'd be playing NA from Europe"
"Oh..I heard they were invited so I thought they were flying over to play there..but it was online connecting to NA from Korea? I was wondering what they were talking about with the cable being bad due to the quakes in Japan"
"Europe to NA doesn't matter~"
"Still, watching the foreign players in TSL..FD, Jinro, and Huk dropping at round of 32..even with the big of lag, I think the skills of top foreign players are quite formidable. The GSL players are having a hard time"
"I especially think MorroW and ThorZaIN were very strong. I'm speechless at how MorroW lost so much in the early game and was still able to survive to midgame depending on just mass ling/lings"
"Foreign players are very strong. It's not just a league of our own anymore lol"
"That's right, their skills didn't fall short of our players at all. MC seems to be lucky with his opponents too. But did these players not participate in the IEM?"
"I don't know about them and IEM, but unlike the invited Koreans, I heard they had prelims for this tournament. So their mental state going into this should be quite different"
"Really, I can see GSL being spreading more and more towards being global. Looking at TSL, and watching the players in GSL..Korea is a powerhouse in Starcraft, but I think in Starcraft2, that expression will disappear..Even if the reaction times were slow, the games themselves were excellent. In Starcraf 1, Korea dominates and take everything in WCG, but I don't see that happening in Starcraft 2. There definitely are players among foreigners that can win, just like the players on TSL today. Looking at Jinro's spread today I thought 'Wow..he's faster and better than MarineKing'. They're that scary and good. GSL having doors open to foreigners, I think there are some very skilled players appearing, which I like"
"I think it'll be fun to set up a GSL-level tournament in America and Europe and getting the top 8 from the tournaments and having a word tournament could be fun too"
"Or making another server and getting 16 from each to have a 64 people tournament could be fun too. Get 16 Code S players and 16 Code A players...if Blizzard could support this and have sponsors behind it, I think Starcraft 2 will become really popular"
"Positive affects of GSL players getting KO'd early in TSL:
Foreign users can now feel like 'Hey, I can do this!' And in reality, it doesn't look like there's a huge gap like in Starcraft 1 to have words like Koretoss, Koreg, or Koran. If they do come to Korea, they might be a bit surprised by the Kimchimen's micros due to having no response time issues, but like Huk and Jinro, it's just a problem of adapting. But even in the micro department, seeing that terran spread marines against FruitDealer, I think things will even out real soon"
"To think Jinro would get knocked out.."
"The terran that got FruidDealer was really thorough and good"
"I don't know, now there are a lot micros like marine spreads and moving shots, toss' guardian shields and force fields, and zerg's baneling explosions that require micro speed of 0.x seconds. And having slow response times, I think the results can't be helped but be like this"
"That's why things are looking positive. All that matters is how the cheesemen look at things from their perspective; This delay in response time will help break the prejudice about Koreans being unbeatable. If this happens like in Starcraft 1, this'll just become a league of only Koreans again"
"So this tournament's done on the NA server from Korea? That's hard;; The response time is crap and the Koreans are given too much of a handicap. No wonder the GSL players have been falling left and right"
"So only the Korean region has slow response time in NA?"
"Europe seems to be fine, but the Kimchimen are saying it's 0.5~2seconds late. Blizzard must've given a server handicap"
-Two guys have a really immature argument about the word Kimchimen being used, but I'm not translating it, it's lame-
-More arguments and discusion with pings and numbers and computer network terms I cba'd to look up follow afterwards. Not much more regarding TSL-
I accidentally refreshed this page and lost my first work after being halfway through -_-
So I got lazier the 2nd time around..I'm also sleepy so..excuse the grammatical errors and
other things that might be wrong with this translation. And hm..is this too long?
RO32 Day 3
PlayXP by SiZ.FaNtAsY
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On March 27 2011 07:44 SiZ.FaNtAsY wrote:
from PLAY XP
Before the match
"What sin did adelscott and goody commit?" [probably thought they those two would get 2-0'ed easily]
"Lag should be a problem, too bad I can't watch the match due to my job"
"Goody is known to use mech I wonder if Nestea knows this.. "
"What sin did these foreigners commit?" [again probably thought they would get rolled over by the koreans]
"I predict that koreans and ret will win"
"Fruitdealer got 0-2'ed and boxer barely won 2-1. I don't think it'd be too surprising if one of the 3 koreans lost"
"Because of the hours being played, I doubt the koreans would be in the best condition. Even if they practiced for it a week before"
"Why does MVP have to play a protoss opponent. I'm kinda uneasy"
AFTER
"Just a month ago regarded as the best player gets 2:0'ed... to a foreigner... Is it because of the lag... or the the foreigners really that good..."
"Wow.. MVP loses 2:0 .ㅡㅡ;; that protoss is really good using only gateway units;;"
"That european protoss is smart... armor upgrade'ing first and using only gateway units. This is really shocking...."
"MVP didn't just lose.. He got raped.. To see a terran lose just to gateway units...
"Nestea lost too --"
"hahahah major win. Seems foreigners are better"
"I believe in Genius!
"Expected nothing else from Genius..... He won... However his opponent is good too.... -.-;;"
"Genius won the first lost the second.... Foreigner plays well haha"
"Genius is out too hahahha"
"Genius GG'ed too.....I'm sad T_T"
"OMG OMG OMG..... Genius you too... Today may be remembered as the worst day for Korean starcraft"
In reponse to this
"hahahah, What do you mean the worst day, koreans aren't superhuman. The foriengers just played better"
from PLAY XP
Before the match
"What sin did adelscott and goody commit?" [probably thought they those two would get 2-0'ed easily]
"Lag should be a problem, too bad I can't watch the match due to my job"
"Goody is known to use mech I wonder if Nestea knows this.. "
"What sin did these foreigners commit?" [again probably thought they would get rolled over by the koreans]
"I predict that koreans and ret will win"
"Fruitdealer got 0-2'ed and boxer barely won 2-1. I don't think it'd be too surprising if one of the 3 koreans lost"
"Because of the hours being played, I doubt the koreans would be in the best condition. Even if they practiced for it a week before"
"Why does MVP have to play a protoss opponent. I'm kinda uneasy"
AFTER
"Just a month ago regarded as the best player gets 2:0'ed... to a foreigner... Is it because of the lag... or the the foreigners really that good..."
"Wow.. MVP loses 2:0 .ㅡㅡ;; that protoss is really good using only gateway units;;"
"That european protoss is smart... armor upgrade'ing first and using only gateway units. This is really shocking...."
"MVP didn't just lose.. He got raped.. To see a terran lose just to gateway units...
"Nestea lost too --"
"hahahah major win. Seems foreigners are better"
"I believe in Genius!
"Expected nothing else from Genius..... He won... However his opponent is good too.... -.-;;"
"Genius won the first lost the second.... Foreigner plays well haha"
"Genius is out too hahahha"
"Genius GG'ed too.....I'm sad T_T"
"OMG OMG OMG..... Genius you too... Today may be remembered as the worst day for Korean starcraft"
In reponse to this
"hahahah, What do you mean the worst day, koreans aren't superhuman. The foriengers just played better"
On March 27 2011 11:14 SiZ.FaNtAsY wrote:
Even more from the PLAYXP
[in response to the post about worst day in korean sc history]
"To be honest it's not the worst, since we can do better later
I'm actually glad the foreigners won.
Now we can actually look forward to koreans and foreigners playing each other"
Same poster
"To have little amount of good foreign players like starcraft 1
and little to no skill, how would an international tournament be fun to watch?
It's nice for foreigners to win once in a while
so that korean players can play seriously next time.
It's boring to see one nation dominate the scene.
Are you guys mad that the koreans were best and lost?
Then you should lose that bias.
Instead we should see koreans and foreigners as equals"
"It would be nice to see just even one korean to make it to the finals"
Even more from the PLAYXP
[in response to the post about worst day in korean sc history]
"To be honest it's not the worst, since we can do better later
I'm actually glad the foreigners won.
Now we can actually look forward to koreans and foreigners playing each other"
Same poster
"To have little amount of good foreign players like starcraft 1
and little to no skill, how would an international tournament be fun to watch?
It's nice for foreigners to win once in a while
so that korean players can play seriously next time.
It's boring to see one nation dominate the scene.
Are you guys mad that the koreans were best and lost?
Then you should lose that bias.
Instead we should see koreans and foreigners as equals"
"It would be nice to see just even one korean to make it to the finals"
GSL commentator Chae Jung Won on Twitter
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On March 27 2011 11:51 Kennigit wrote:
Comment from GSL commentator Chae Jung Won
re: foreigners having to show good performances in world championship to prove its not a fluke.
http://twitter.com/#!/WoWnStarcraft
Comment from GSL commentator Chae Jung Won
re: foreigners having to show good performances in world championship to prove its not a fluke.
http://twitter.com/#!/WoWnStarcraft
Ro32 Day 4
PlayXP by SiZ.FaNtaSy
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On March 28 2011 03:02 SiZ.FaNtAsY wrote:
Day 4 From PlayXP PlayXp
Before the matches
"Please Nada don't surprise us"
"His condition should be an important factor"
"However, Nada's opponent is in the GSL league too, no surprises if he loses
Also, TLO is using terran not random
Nada's TvT I don't know...."
In response to above
"Nada's TvT is his best MU"
"NAda vs TLO is a big match"
"Oh shit! Genius terran please win!"
"Idra please win!"
"Oh... Nada vs TLO
Isn't it IEM Rematch
I heard Kespa kicked out NAda"
Same poster
"Or was that a rumor?"
Day 4 From PlayXP PlayXp
Before the matches
"Please Nada don't surprise us"
"His condition should be an important factor"
"However, Nada's opponent is in the GSL league too, no surprises if he loses
Also, TLO is using terran not random
Nada's TvT I don't know...."
In response to above
"Nada's TvT is his best MU"
"NAda vs TLO is a big match"
"Oh shit! Genius terran please win!"
"Idra please win!"
"Oh... Nada vs TLO
Isn't it IEM Rematch
I heard Kespa kicked out NAda"
Same poster
"Or was that a rumor?"
More PlayXP by SiZ.FaNtaSy
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On March 28 2011 13:41 SiZ.FaNtAsY wrote:
Seems like less interest due to only Nada playing this time
Day 4 Feedback
Again from Play XP
"Greg TT.TT"
"I got all my predictions wrong T.T"
"Wow, TSL's result is completely opposite of what I expected"
"TvT really got more dynamic after the patch! The comeback in Nada vs TLO game 2 with battlecruiser was a flashback!"
"Liquid got completely defeated"
[in reponse to the patch comment]
"How ever this game was played before the patch lol"
"Ohh Nada won T_T" <--- Guess TLO fan
Seems like less interest due to only Nada playing this time
Day 4 Feedback
Again from Play XP
"Greg TT.TT"
"I got all my predictions wrong T.T"
"Wow, TSL's result is completely opposite of what I expected"
"TvT really got more dynamic after the patch! The comeback in Nada vs TLO game 2 with battlecruiser was a flashback!"
"Liquid got completely defeated"
[in reponse to the patch comment]
"How ever this game was played before the patch lol"
"Ohh Nada won T_T" <--- Guess TLO fan
GomTV by SiZ.FaNtAsY
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On March 31 2011 16:50 SiZ.FaNtAsY wrote:
Day 4 Reactions from GOM TV
"Nada FIGHTTING!"
"TLO made the game very entertaining and awesome. Congratulations to Nada for advancing! FIGHTTING"
"Idra doesn't play till the end. He had lots of workers and minerals yet just leaves the game after he's at a disadvantage"
"long post insulting the commentator"
"Greg Fields got completely humiliated"
Edit: Don't want to triple post, there's already some reaction at playxp for round of 16 match ups. I'll post those along with the preview for the day 1 of round of 16 together. I'll also start to do translations for GOMTV. I love the TSL3 and everyone who made it happen, so I want to do something to help after sitting back and watching the previous two.
Day 4 Reactions from GOM TV
"Nada FIGHTTING!"
"TLO made the game very entertaining and awesome. Congratulations to Nada for advancing! FIGHTTING"
"Idra doesn't play till the end. He had lots of workers and minerals yet just leaves the game after he's at a disadvantage"
"long post insulting the commentator"
"Greg Fields got completely humiliated"
Edit: Don't want to triple post, there's already some reaction at playxp for round of 16 match ups. I'll post those along with the preview for the day 1 of round of 16 together. I'll also start to do translations for GOMTV. I love the TSL3 and everyone who made it happen, so I want to do something to help after sitting back and watching the previous two.
RO16 Day 1
PlayXP (prior to the matches) by SiZ.FaNtAsY
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On April 09 2011 12:37 SiZ.FaNtAsY wrote:
RO 16 Preview in PLAY XP
"Are White-Ra and Empire.Kas both playing in the korean server?"
"Wow OGS.MC vs WHite-Ra Revenge rematch. Can't miss it!"
"OGS.MC's getting revenge and Boxer's TvZ. Wow this is gonna be great"
"It's nice to watch it after GSL world championship since players will be more familiar. I know a lot in that list"
"The break between RO32 and Ro16 is really long..."
"I'm going to watch Boxer's and Nada's games"
"Go Nada MC Boxer!"
"Emperor is playing so I'm watching"
"There aren't many zergs -_-"
RO 16 Preview in PLAY XP
"Are White-Ra and Empire.Kas both playing in the korean server?"
"Wow OGS.MC vs WHite-Ra Revenge rematch. Can't miss it!"
"OGS.MC's getting revenge and Boxer's TvZ. Wow this is gonna be great"
"It's nice to watch it after GSL world championship since players will be more familiar. I know a lot in that list"
"The break between RO32 and Ro16 is really long..."
"I'm going to watch Boxer's and Nada's games"
"Go Nada MC Boxer!"
"Emperor is playing so I'm watching"
"There aren't many zergs -_-"
PlayXP by SiZ.FaNtAsY
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On April 11 2011 12:28 SiZ.FaNtAsY wrote:
RO 16 Day 1 Results from PLAY XP
"It's the day of shutdown"
"MC totally got his revenge"
"Go MC!"
"What happened?"
"I got all the toto [korean liquibet] right!"
"I thought MC would lose one... Damn so I bet he'd win 3:1"
RO 16 Day 1 Results from PLAY XP
"It's the day of shutdown"
"MC totally got his revenge"
"Go MC!"
"What happened?"
"I got all the toto [korean liquibet] right!"
"I thought MC would lose one... Damn so I bet he'd win 3:1"
Ro16 day 2
PlayXP by SiZ.FaNtAsY
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On April 11 2011 12:28 SiZ.FaNtAsY wrote:
RO 16 DAy 2 Results from PlayXP
"Besides the Emperor all koreans are gone..."
[Same poster]
"Oh wait there's MC"
"How in the world did he lose like that?"
"Haha 3 losses in a row My toto [korean liquibet] is ruined"
"I thought it was the worst when the koreans lost 0:2 in the ro 32, but this is worse..."
"Is his reaction slower since it's TvT?"
"WTF NADA? T_T"
"I watched the game and Nada just straight up lost... Kas is really good"
Edit: I somehow can't find the GOMTV pages of korean reactions if anyone can link me to it I'll be down to translate
RO 16 DAy 2 Results from PlayXP
"Besides the Emperor all koreans are gone..."
[Same poster]
"Oh wait there's MC"
"How in the world did he lose like that?"
"Haha 3 losses in a row My toto [korean liquibet] is ruined"
"I thought it was the worst when the koreans lost 0:2 in the ro 32, but this is worse..."
"Is his reaction slower since it's TvT?"
"WTF NADA? T_T"
"I watched the game and Nada just straight up lost... Kas is really good"
Edit: I somehow can't find the GOMTV pages of korean reactions if anyone can link me to it I'll be down to translate
Ro16 day 3
Comments by djcube (PlayXP?)
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On April 17 2011 19:38 djcube wrote:
some from the ro16 day 3:
-looks like there's some minor drama about the W L W L W results.
"it's kind of shady to see W L W L W results...it started from ro16 maybe it's been a joke since ro16"
"does that even make sense you idiot"
"hasuobs beat morrow!?"
"morrow
always seems to get knocked out by protoss"
"are we really not going to ban the guys saying there's fixing? really now..."
"you're overreacting, the W L W L W scenarios were just interesting so he brought it up as a joke"
"but wow, really fun games"
"really though, there's a limit to what you should joke about"
"it's a relief to see boxer win after not seeing him play for so long"
"lol at the guys mad that they were joking about match fixing"
"yeah, so that's why I'm saying to stop these @#$%ing match-fixing troll comments"
"wow, the emperor really did that to zerg"
"let's stop with the match-fixing comments. every time I hear about it I want to start cussing off savior" *(savior was one of the scbw greats/bonjwas that was caught throwing games for money as well as convincing other progamers to do so as well)
-more comments about telling people to stop with the fixing comments and some more people happy that boxer won
some from the ro16 day 3:
-looks like there's some minor drama about the W L W L W results.
"it's kind of shady to see W L W L W results...
"does that even make sense you idiot"
"hasuobs beat morrow!?"
"morrow
always seems to get knocked out by protoss""are we really not going to ban the guys saying there's fixing? really now..."
"you're overreacting, the W L W L W scenarios were just interesting so he brought it up as a joke"
"but wow, really fun games"
"really though, there's a limit to what you should joke about"
"it's a relief to see boxer win after not seeing him play for so long"
"lol at the guys mad that they were joking about match fixing"
"yeah, so that's why I'm saying to stop these @#$%ing match-fixing troll comments"
"wow, the emperor really did that to zerg"
"let's stop with the match-fixing comments. every time I hear about it I want to start cussing off savior" *(savior was one of the scbw greats/bonjwas that was caught throwing games for money as well as convincing other progamers to do so as well)
-more comments about telling people to stop with the fixing comments and some more people happy that boxer won
More PlayXP by SiZ.FaNtAsY
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On April 18 2011 09:07 SiZ.FaNtAsY wrote:
Day 3 results fromPlayXp
"Monstrous protoss, just gave away the first game as a token"
"He gave away the first game to win 3 times in a row"
"Naniwa lost the first game due to the workers"
"Oh no moonglade T_T"
[in response]
"It's not moonglade.. It's mondragon"
I'll update more as they come
Day 3 results fromPlayXp
"Monstrous protoss, just gave away the first game as a token"
"He gave away the first game to win 3 times in a row"
"Naniwa lost the first game due to the workers"
"Oh no moonglade T_T"
[in response]
"It's not moonglade.. It's mondragon"
I'll update more as they come
Ro16 day 4
PlayXP (preview) comments by SiZ.FaNtAsY
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On April 18 2011 09:07 SiZ.FaNtAsY wrote:
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"Oh... Naniwa, Few days ago didn't lose a single game till the finals in MLG. ANd won the finals 4:2 to end with 16 wins 2 losses"
"BUt there aren't any koreans so it looks less entertaining"
"Who to bet for when you don't know the players... Damn.."
[Regarding toto]
"Go Moonglade!!!"
[Reply to this post]
"Moonglade?"
Teamliquid Day 4 Preview in playXp
"Oh... Naniwa, Few days ago didn't lose a single game till the finals in MLG. ANd won the finals 4:2 to end with 16 wins 2 losses"
"BUt there aren't any koreans so it looks less entertaining"
"Who to bet for when you don't know the players... Damn.."
[Regarding toto]
"Go Moonglade!!!"
[Reply to this post]
"Moonglade?"
Ro8 day 1
Preview PlayXP comments by SiZ.FaNtAsY
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On April 23 2011 17:21 SiZ.FaNtAsY wrote:
TSL RO8 PREVIEW in PlayXP
"I hope Boxer can get to the finals and face MC for an epic finals. Fighting!"
"MC, BOXER!"
"Zerg : 0 T_T"
"Is RO8 Online too? I wish they could play in the same server..."
[answering]
"Unfortunately it's online till the finals. They'll fly to NYC for the finals"
"I feel as though Naniwa is more dangerous than HasuObs"
"0 Zerg LOL. Prae.Thorzain is a very solid player, if MC gets too arrogant he may lose"
"As expected foreign zergs mediocre"
"To be honest after watching HasuOB's games he's not that dangerous. If Boxer practices with his practice partners (they stated names but I have no clue) I feel as though he'll easily make the RO4. I hope Boxer makes it to the finals and face MC for an unrealistic match"
"What? 0 Zerg?"
"Zergs aren't great..... MC will be MC, I hope Boxer keeps doing well though"
"If there aren't any lag problems, Boxer will definitely make it to RO4. However, he may face Naniwa and he's really good...."
"Boxer's RO16 was played in Korea so it was fine... But RO8 and RO4 are different servers so it's basically him playing against the lag.."
"It's not just Korean players, but great players from other countries are all here. Kas, Naniwa, Thorzain, Adel, etc"
"Zerg died..."
"Boxer please win and make it to the finals to face MC"
"Boxer cheer up!"
"Shouldn't they do something for zerg? They're so bad..."
"Zerg apocalypse"
"So many toss"
It's funny how everyone assumes MC will streamroll to the finals while they hope boxer can make it to face him. Just thought it was funny ^^
TSL RO8 PREVIEW in PlayXP
"I hope Boxer can get to the finals and face MC for an epic finals. Fighting!"
"MC, BOXER!"
"Zerg : 0 T_T"
"Is RO8 Online too? I wish they could play in the same server..."
[answering]
"Unfortunately it's online till the finals. They'll fly to NYC for the finals"
"I feel as though Naniwa is more dangerous than HasuObs"
"0 Zerg LOL. Prae.Thorzain is a very solid player, if MC gets too arrogant he may lose"
"As expected foreign zergs mediocre"
"To be honest after watching HasuOB's games he's not that dangerous. If Boxer practices with his practice partners (they stated names but I have no clue) I feel as though he'll easily make the RO4. I hope Boxer makes it to the finals and face MC for an unrealistic match"
"What? 0 Zerg?"
"Zergs aren't great..... MC will be MC, I hope Boxer keeps doing well though"
"If there aren't any lag problems, Boxer will definitely make it to RO4. However, he may face Naniwa and he's really good...."
"Boxer's RO16 was played in Korea so it was fine... But RO8 and RO4 are different servers so it's basically him playing against the lag.."
"It's not just Korean players, but great players from other countries are all here. Kas, Naniwa, Thorzain, Adel, etc"
"Zerg died..."
"Boxer please win and make it to the finals to face MC"
"Boxer cheer up!"
"Shouldn't they do something for zerg? They're so bad..."
"Zerg apocalypse"
"So many toss"
It's funny how everyone assumes MC will streamroll to the finals while they hope boxer can make it to face him. Just thought it was funny ^^
PlayXP comments by SiZ.FaNtAsY
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On April 24 2011 06:40 SiZ.FaNtAsY wrote:
LR from PlayXP
"Alright it's time for MC to play!"
"Wow I bet MC would win 3:0 and he loses his first match.."
"Thorzain has great control"
"Terran forgot to research concussive shells"
"LOL What's with the viking numbers?"
"If you have upgraded BIO it's great to have that many vikings"
"MC...."
"MC got rolled over by thorzain again LOL"
"I'm sure koreans were way better a while ago..."
"If MC is defeated, is Thorzain the International GSL Champ?
"I think MC will be rolled over 3:0"
"I feel MC should switch his style against foreign players?"
"Yes! Finally he wins one"
"Wow he blocked that?"
"However, this match was dangerous too"
"WTF how did he defend that?"
"23:1 odd bet gone..."
"Thorzain types WP after gg nice"
"MC is ahving lag problems"
"There shouldn't be lag problems they're both in Europe"
"He's pumping out units instead of workers again.."
"It's okay, when SC first got big, Europe created all the builds and Koreans perfected em, it's the same thing here."
"MC LOST?"
"3 Robotics haha!"
"Perhaps a comeback?!"
"I feel MC will win this one!"
"I'm so nervous for MC"
"Wtf is this?
"TvP is so aweosme!"
"Wow the cloaking by the european was awesome"
"Why isn't he upgrading armor?"
"Wow please MC... WIN!"
"Who's winning this?"
"I really hope I can see Thorzain play in the GSL"
"TSL RO8 is more entertaining than the GSL Finals"
"This is what you call a finals worthy series"
"Wow this game is just...."
"Epic game.."
"I can't leave my seat..."
"Okay last game will show the true skills of the players"
"Wow lvl 2 armor upgrade?"
"Wow it's been a while since I seen the 200 mm cannon"
"Seems like MC doesn't know how to handle against mech.. Making zealots..."
"MC LOST LOLOLOL"
"That build is popular in the ladder these days"
"Wow, I didn't know who thorzain was, but from today on..."
"We should discuss TvP balance now..." <-- My favorite
"Now we can't say koreans are better than the rest.."
"No doubt since the beginning our hope lies with Boxer!!" <-- Although this one is great too!
"So shocked...."
"the foreign terrans and tosses are very skilled"
LR from PlayXP
"Alright it's time for MC to play!"
"Wow I bet MC would win 3:0 and he loses his first match.."
"Thorzain has great control"
"Terran forgot to research concussive shells"
"LOL What's with the viking numbers?"
"If you have upgraded BIO it's great to have that many vikings"
"MC...."
"MC got rolled over by thorzain again LOL"
"I'm sure koreans were way better a while ago..."
"If MC is defeated, is Thorzain the International GSL Champ?
"I think MC will be rolled over 3:0"
"I feel MC should switch his style against foreign players?"
"Yes! Finally he wins one"
"Wow he blocked that?"
"However, this match was dangerous too"
"WTF how did he defend that?"
"23:1 odd bet gone..."
"Thorzain types WP after gg nice"
"MC is ahving lag problems"
"There shouldn't be lag problems they're both in Europe"
"He's pumping out units instead of workers again.."
"It's okay, when SC first got big, Europe created all the builds and Koreans perfected em, it's the same thing here."
"MC LOST?"
"3 Robotics haha!"
"Perhaps a comeback?!"
"I feel MC will win this one!"
"I'm so nervous for MC"
"Wtf is this?
"TvP is so aweosme!"
"Wow the cloaking by the european was awesome"
"Why isn't he upgrading armor?"
"Wow please MC... WIN!"
"Who's winning this?"
"I really hope I can see Thorzain play in the GSL"
"TSL RO8 is more entertaining than the GSL Finals"
"This is what you call a finals worthy series"
"Wow this game is just...."
"Epic game.."
"I can't leave my seat..."
"Okay last game will show the true skills of the players"
"Wow lvl 2 armor upgrade?"
"Wow it's been a while since I seen the 200 mm cannon"
"Seems like MC doesn't know how to handle against mech.. Making zealots..."
"MC LOST LOLOLOL"
"That build is popular in the ladder these days"
"Wow, I didn't know who thorzain was, but from today on..."
"We should discuss TvP balance now..." <-- My favorite
"Now we can't say koreans are better than the rest.."
"No doubt since the beginning our hope lies with Boxer!!" <-- Although this one is great too!
"So shocked...."
"the foreign terrans and tosses are very skilled"
On April 24 2011 14:56 SiZ.FaNtAsY wrote:
RO8 Day 3 Reactions in PlayXP
"MC T_T"
"What's wrong with MC these days?'
"Thorzain is a solid player"
"Was it cause of lag? How did he lose?'
"It wasn't lag. They were both playing in the europe Server. I believe he was in Copenhagen for a tournament? Maybe he really got outplayed.."
"You'll understand after watching the games."
"Thorzain was also a Warcraft 3 Gosu"
"Only person to trust is Boxer.. Go Boxer!!!"
"Both Kas and Thorzain played Humans in Warcraft 3, they're both great"
"Wow, to see someone from Europe beat MC in a bo5. I'm really surprised"
"Probably Lag, thorzain is from Europe"
"MC was in Europe too..."
"Stop saying it's lag when you haven't watched the games. MC isn't invincible. The European WC3 players are just really scary"
"Thorzain played extremely well....The casters were also questioning where the hell Thorzain came from." [Probably korean casters"
"MC is in Copenhagen for the tournament. If you watched the games, it wasn't cause of lag."
"I can't believe people write here without even watching the games LOL"
"TSL isn't a Live game. They just play replays live. Therefore there is no guarantee MC was in Europe for these games"
RO8 Day 3 Reactions in PlayXP
"MC T_T"
"What's wrong with MC these days?'
"Thorzain is a solid player"
"Was it cause of lag? How did he lose?'
"It wasn't lag. They were both playing in the europe Server. I believe he was in Copenhagen for a tournament? Maybe he really got outplayed.."
"You'll understand after watching the games."
"Thorzain was also a Warcraft 3 Gosu"
"Only person to trust is Boxer.. Go Boxer!!!"
"Both Kas and Thorzain played Humans in Warcraft 3, they're both great"
"Wow, to see someone from Europe beat MC in a bo5. I'm really surprised"
"Probably Lag, thorzain is from Europe"
"MC was in Europe too..."
"Stop saying it's lag when you haven't watched the games. MC isn't invincible. The European WC3 players are just really scary"
"Thorzain played extremely well....The casters were also questioning where the hell Thorzain came from." [Probably korean casters"
"MC is in Copenhagen for the tournament. If you watched the games, it wasn't cause of lag."
"I can't believe people write here without even watching the games LOL"
"TSL isn't a Live game. They just play replays live. Therefore there is no guarantee MC was in Europe for these games"
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On April 24 2011 21:56 SiZ.FaNtAsY wrote:
Ro 8 Day 1 Reactions from GOMTV
"MC eventually loses... Now there's only Emperor left and for him to win"
"What the fuck MC lost?"
"Kas 3:1's to RO4. Thorzain 3:2's to RO4. If Emperor can get to RO4 it's only TvT from then on. It's in favor of the Emperor"
"The difference was in the upgrades and how they fought the battles. But regardless of the result terran played really well"
"Wow MC... This is epic.. Like a president toss.."
"I hope to everyone in korea watch the MC Thorzain game.. Especially game 4 and 5 it makes your jaw drop"
"Is MC out of his prime?"
"It's not that MC is out of his prime, it is because THorzain was that good. Although he lost this match he won in Copenhagen"
"Both players are really good. In game 4 he cloaked the ghosts to wipe out MC's army. But he still lost..."
"Wow, I really think TvP is the most entertaining match up. Especially game 4 and 5. Game 4 was no joke at all, and game 5 shows why Thorzain is his name"
"Right when you feel toss is overpowered, dual upgraded terrans feel superior"
"Wow.. 5 games... I don't know what to say haha"
"Game 4,5 epic matches"
"MC isn't that good lol his skills are slipping"
"MC why aren't you upgrading? So frustrating.. An upgraded 200 army can beat a 400 no upgrade army... Wow really frustrating.. Look at thorzain's upgrade... Lvl 2 armor upgrade while MC has none... You can never win in that situation.."
ANDDD
My favorite reaction so far from this TSL.
And the winner of the troll award....
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In all seriousness I seen a lot worse in TL LR threads and SC2 Strategy forums, so I guess it wins the non-TL troll award.
Ro 8 Day 1 Reactions from GOMTV
"MC eventually loses... Now there's only Emperor left and for him to win"
"What the fuck MC lost?"
"Kas 3:1's to RO4. Thorzain 3:2's to RO4. If Emperor can get to RO4 it's only TvT from then on. It's in favor of the Emperor"
"The difference was in the upgrades and how they fought the battles. But regardless of the result terran played really well"
"Wow MC... This is epic.. Like a president toss.."
"I hope to everyone in korea watch the MC Thorzain game.. Especially game 4 and 5 it makes your jaw drop"
"Is MC out of his prime?"
"It's not that MC is out of his prime, it is because THorzain was that good. Although he lost this match he won in Copenhagen"
"Both players are really good. In game 4 he cloaked the ghosts to wipe out MC's army. But he still lost..."
"Wow, I really think TvP is the most entertaining match up. Especially game 4 and 5. Game 4 was no joke at all, and game 5 shows why Thorzain is his name"
"Right when you feel toss is overpowered, dual upgraded terrans feel superior"
"Wow.. 5 games... I don't know what to say haha"
"Game 4,5 epic matches"
"MC isn't that good lol his skills are slipping"
"MC why aren't you upgrading? So frustrating.. An upgraded 200 army can beat a 400 no upgrade army... Wow really frustrating.. Look at thorzain's upgrade... Lvl 2 armor upgrade while MC has none... You can never win in that situation.."
ANDDD
My favorite reaction so far from this TSL.
And the winner of the troll award....
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"I feel as though the online lag limitations put our korean players at a disadvantage. I heard they're playing offline starting RO4 but till RO8 I feel our players have a great handicap no doubt. I heard the lag spikes are worse than SC1 battle net and UDP."
In all seriousness I seen a lot worse in TL LR threads and SC2 Strategy forums, so I guess it wins the non-TL troll award.
Ro8 Day 2
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On April 25 2011 00:37 SiZ.FaNtAsY wrote:
Ro8 Day 2 Preview by PlayXP
"I will only believe in Emperor!"
"My lord"
"I believe Boxer's TvP. I don't care about Toto, please just win"
"Instead of MC please Win"
"I feel like Thorzain will win it all"
"Thorzain lost badly to Idra. I heard Boxer improved his TvP. How can a Gosu" lose to hasu?"
** Gosu = Pro Hasu = Novice a korean pun joke
[in response]
"Thorzain never faced idra. What kind of you bullshit are you saying?"
"I only believe in Royal Emperor"
"Let's go Boxer!"
"Please! I believe in Emperor"
"Please Boxer T_T. Stay strong!"
Ro8 Day 2 Preview by PlayXP
"I will only believe in Emperor!"
"My lord"
"I believe Boxer's TvP. I don't care about Toto, please just win"
"Instead of MC please Win"
"I feel like Thorzain will win it all"
"Thorzain lost badly to Idra. I heard Boxer improved his TvP. How can a Gosu" lose to hasu?"
** Gosu = Pro Hasu = Novice a korean pun joke
[in response]
"Thorzain never faced idra. What kind of you bullshit are you saying?"
"I only believe in Royal Emperor"
"Let's go Boxer!"
"Please! I believe in Emperor"
"Please Boxer T_T. Stay strong!"
LR by SiZ.FaNtAsY
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On April 25 2011 06:25 SiZ.FaNtAsY wrote:
TSL RO8 Day 2 LR
"HasuObs was a warcraft 3 player..."
"When facing a tough challenger, trust your CPU!"
"Oh Emperor, your Code A TvP match worries me"
"Seems like HasuObs has the first match"
"What if there's lag?"
"Nice EMP"
"Uh oh, I don't think he can defend this."
"Aww Boxer, your BIO micro is disappointing"
"I feel as though he'll lose 3:0... I bet he'd lose 3:1"
"I feel as though he was affected by lag"
"HasuOb's Defense.. Wow"
"Boxer has a great chance in this one"
"Damn, to get rolled over again, gg soon"
"Hasuob is good"
"He showed how a rich protoss shold play"
"He could lose, but losing 3:0? T_T"
When I watched Select vs HasuOb, Select stomped him..."
"Boxer what's wrong? You don't seem to have skills to be even in the master league.. So sad..."
"Ahhh Emperor... Please win at least one."
"It's obvious we're at a disadvantage. There may be lag and delay for both players, but we're great in micro and mechanics compared to the foreigners therefore it affects us more... And unlike Warcraft 3 we can't play with the delay"
"I feel he lost due to his lack of refinement"
"Also another thing isn't HasuObs is a War3 undead user?? If not nvm"
"Yup he's an undead user lol"
"Whatever, koreans are still cleaning up most of the tournaments"
'Toss is imbalanced T_T"
"It's skill"
"You shouldn't say this after watching MC vs Thorzain"
"He's not thinking what he's saying"
"He said his TvP improved drastically in a recent interview.. I was looking forward to this.. So disappointing..."
"All the koreans are now out of TSL. Although disappointing, well played."
TSL RO8 Day 2 LR
"HasuObs was a warcraft 3 player..."
"When facing a tough challenger, trust your CPU!"
"Oh Emperor, your Code A TvP match worries me"
"Seems like HasuObs has the first match"
"What if there's lag?"
"Nice EMP"
"Uh oh, I don't think he can defend this."
"Aww Boxer, your BIO micro is disappointing"
"I feel as though he'll lose 3:0... I bet he'd lose 3:1"
"I feel as though he was affected by lag"
"HasuOb's Defense.. Wow"
"Boxer has a great chance in this one"
"Damn, to get rolled over again, gg soon"
"Hasuob is good"
"He showed how a rich protoss shold play"
"He could lose, but losing 3:0? T_T"
When I watched Select vs HasuOb, Select stomped him..."
"Boxer what's wrong? You don't seem to have skills to be even in the master league.. So sad..."
"Ahhh Emperor... Please win at least one."
"It's obvious we're at a disadvantage. There may be lag and delay for both players, but we're great in micro and mechanics compared to the foreigners therefore it affects us more... And unlike Warcraft 3 we can't play with the delay"
"I feel he lost due to his lack of refinement"
"Also another thing isn't HasuObs is a War3 undead user?? If not nvm"
"Yup he's an undead user lol"
"Whatever, koreans are still cleaning up most of the tournaments"
'Toss is imbalanced T_T"
"It's skill"
"You shouldn't say this after watching MC vs Thorzain"
"He's not thinking what he's saying"
"He said his TvP improved drastically in a recent interview.. I was looking forward to this.. So disappointing..."
"All the koreans are now out of TSL. Although disappointing, well played."
PlayXP by SiZ.FaNtAsY
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On April 25 2011 15:27 SiZ.FaNtAsY wrote:
Ro8 Day 2 Reactions from PlayXP
"Boxer's games weren't that great. But keep at it!"
"It's okay, Nada loost 3:0 to so it's not that surprising"
"SlayersBoxer T_T I didn't watch the games but so sad"
"I won my toto due to Boxer losing.. Sorry Boxer!"
"Shit.. Emperor T_T"
"Not again my toto.. T_T"
"Damn I didn't know what to bet 3:0 or 3:1 in boxer losing. I missed an 1:11 odd. Hurts that boxer lost and I didn't win"
"Hate to admit it but I feel as though HasuObs studied every part of Boxer and knew what to do. Sucks but thanks for giving all your effort boxer!"
"If Boxer faced a zerg I would've bet for him. He's a skilled in TvZ but has a lot to learn in TvP. That's why i bet against him"
"I stated it before but due to the 1-2 week break between each match, there's a lot going on between then. He may be at a prime or a slump during then. Also seeing him losing in Code A makes you realize why he lost"
"Seems like this international tournament is where korean participants (Might I add that they had free invitation) didn't win. You also can't ignore the time these koreans had to play and what condition they were in late at night. They also did not know much about their opponents and could not study their characteristics. I'm not discounting that foreigners are skilled and assuming that there is a skill cap between koreans and foreigners. I'm just saying if none of the top elite korean players cannot make it past RO8, no data or replay to study the opponents and time zone could have factored in to why they lost"
"Nada played a same MU and lost 3:0 cannot be compared to Boxer's loss"
"Boxer played well but he crumbled in decisive moments of the games. All 3 of em"
"I enjoyed Boxer playing but also the opponent I was only able to watch 2 games before falling asleep... Boxer could have been the winner with good drop ship moves but the opponent knew of this and prepared accordingly."
"I'm a Boxer fan but let's not make excuses. He lost due to his skill. Game 1 seemed to show the lag and delay but the opponent was good too"
"In RO8....."
Ro8 Day 2 Reactions from PlayXP
"Boxer's games weren't that great. But keep at it!"
"It's okay, Nada loost 3:0 to so it's not that surprising"
"SlayersBoxer T_T I didn't watch the games but so sad"
"I won my toto due to Boxer losing.. Sorry Boxer!"
"Shit.. Emperor T_T"
"Not again my toto.. T_T"
"Damn I didn't know what to bet 3:0 or 3:1 in boxer losing. I missed an 1:11 odd. Hurts that boxer lost and I didn't win"
"Hate to admit it but I feel as though HasuObs studied every part of Boxer and knew what to do. Sucks but thanks for giving all your effort boxer!"
"If Boxer faced a zerg I would've bet for him. He's a skilled in TvZ but has a lot to learn in TvP. That's why i bet against him"
"I stated it before but due to the 1-2 week break between each match, there's a lot going on between then. He may be at a prime or a slump during then. Also seeing him losing in Code A makes you realize why he lost"
"Seems like this international tournament is where korean participants (Might I add that they had free invitation) didn't win. You also can't ignore the time these koreans had to play and what condition they were in late at night. They also did not know much about their opponents and could not study their characteristics. I'm not discounting that foreigners are skilled and assuming that there is a skill cap between koreans and foreigners. I'm just saying if none of the top elite korean players cannot make it past RO8, no data or replay to study the opponents and time zone could have factored in to why they lost"
"Nada played a same MU and lost 3:0 cannot be compared to Boxer's loss"
"Boxer played well but he crumbled in decisive moments of the games. All 3 of em"
"I enjoyed Boxer playing but also the opponent I was only able to watch 2 games before falling asleep... Boxer could have been the winner with good drop ship moves but the opponent knew of this and prepared accordingly."
"I'm a Boxer fan but let's not make excuses. He lost due to his skill. Game 1 seemed to show the lag and delay but the opponent was good too"
"In RO8....."
Semi-finals
Comments on Kas vs Thorzain, by SiZ.FaNtAsY.
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On May 08 2011 20:18 SiZ.FaNtAsY wrote:
Sadly there doesn't seem to be much of interest from koreans due to all the koreans being out :l
Reactions from PLAY XP like always.
Before RO 4 DAy 1
"Woah it's TvT"
"Is it the finals?"
"Kas is one of the best Terrans in Europe who lost to MC 0-4 and Thorzain is one of the best also from Sweden who beat MC 3-2. THey're all connected to MC"
"Go THORZAIN!"
AFTER THE GAMES
"-_____- 4-1....?"
FOllowed by Koreans confused how the result was 4:1 cause of the mistake OP made making it BO5
"Kas played below my expectation. He was known to be the best European in TvT. I feel as though Kas played horribly rather than Thorzain playing well. At least the games were fun"
"Both Thorzain and Kas are former WC3 Players. Kas dominated Nada before in the same matchup, it's a shame he didn't play well today"
That's really it >.<
Sadly there doesn't seem to be much of interest from koreans due to all the koreans being out :l
Reactions from PLAY XP like always.
Before RO 4 DAy 1
"Woah it's TvT"
"Is it the finals?"
"Kas is one of the best Terrans in Europe who lost to MC 0-4 and Thorzain is one of the best also from Sweden who beat MC 3-2. THey're all connected to MC"
"Go THORZAIN!"
AFTER THE GAMES
"-_____- 4-1....?"
FOllowed by Koreans confused how the result was 4:1 cause of the mistake OP made making it BO5
"Kas played below my expectation. He was known to be the best European in TvT. I feel as though Kas played horribly rather than Thorzain playing well. At least the games were fun"
"Both Thorzain and Kas are former WC3 Players. Kas dominated Nada before in the same matchup, it's a shame he didn't play well today"
That's really it >.<
Comments on Naniwa vs Hasuobs, by SiZ.FaNtAsY
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On May 09 2011 21:25 SiZ.FaNtAsY wrote:
PLAYXP BEORE RO 4 DAY2
"Feel like best foreign toss Naniwa will win"
"Both Naniwa and Hasuobs are getting killed in NASL and IPL but managed to get to RO4 in this tourney"
In respone
"Naniwa is doing well in NASL and Hasuobs isn't doing too bad. Also none of them entered IPL. Please think and know what you're saying before making false claims. Also Naniwa was doing well even before this tourney and Hasuobs is doing well in this tourney"
AFTER THE RO4 DAY 2
"Wow that was quick"
"Here's watch funny about foreigners... After the 4 gate in Dreamhack MC got lots of shit from them. Even when one of the game White-Ra won MC 4 gated. When White-Ra 4 gates they don't say anything and watch in awe. They criticize Koreans when they 4 gate but they except for 1 game it they just 4 gate'd. Sigh... This was one of the most boring PvP's I ever seen. But it's fitting for a TSL RO4"
In response to above post
"Here are some reactions from Teamliquid.
- Another 4 gate? Stop doing the same thing Naniwa
- Are you satisfied winning by 4 gate?
- RO4 is PvP and Hasuobs didn't prepare enough
They also grilled the players too
But I feel MC is more targeted due to his (Arrogance? Or his attitude.. But alot of foreigners like MC too)"
And more comments regarding not the games but basically insulting the foreigners for being biased. Saying the last game was worse than the proxy 4 gate by MC in dreamhack and how the matches were really boring. Nothing really worth translating unless you guys want it. Let me know!
PLAYXP BEORE RO 4 DAY2
"Feel like best foreign toss Naniwa will win"
"Both Naniwa and Hasuobs are getting killed in NASL and IPL but managed to get to RO4 in this tourney"
In respone
"Naniwa is doing well in NASL and Hasuobs isn't doing too bad. Also none of them entered IPL. Please think and know what you're saying before making false claims. Also Naniwa was doing well even before this tourney and Hasuobs is doing well in this tourney"
AFTER THE RO4 DAY 2
"Wow that was quick"
"Here's watch funny about foreigners... After the 4 gate in Dreamhack MC got lots of shit from them. Even when one of the game White-Ra won MC 4 gated. When White-Ra 4 gates they don't say anything and watch in awe. They criticize Koreans when they 4 gate but they except for 1 game it they just 4 gate'd. Sigh... This was one of the most boring PvP's I ever seen. But it's fitting for a TSL RO4"
In response to above post
"Here are some reactions from Teamliquid.
- Another 4 gate? Stop doing the same thing Naniwa
- Are you satisfied winning by 4 gate?
- RO4 is PvP and Hasuobs didn't prepare enough
They also grilled the players too
But I feel MC is more targeted due to his (Arrogance? Or his attitude.. But alot of foreigners like MC too)"
And more comments regarding not the games but basically insulting the foreigners for being biased. Saying the last game was worse than the proxy 4 gate by MC in dreamhack and how the matches were really boring. Nothing really worth translating unless you guys want it. Let me know!
Grand Finals
Another round of PlayXP comments translated by SiZ.FaNtAsY.
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On May 16 2011 06:06 SiZ.FaNtAsY wrote:
TSL GRAND FINALS Preview from PLAY XP
"If there aren't any koreans, I'm not going to watch"
"This is a big match"
TSL GRAND FINALS LR from PLAYXP
"TSL is starting!"
"TSL is so exciting"
"TSL finals is so entertaining"
"Naniwa must be so fucking angry'
"From watching thorzain I feel like foreign viking control is better than ours"
"EMP's are crazy"
"Thorzain owes chill dinner"
"7!! Thank you!! Also if you see Naniwa just run away he must be so angry"
"Today's MVP--- Chill"
"Chill get out lolollol"
"7 get out"
"never though to see the phrase chill get out"
"Naniwa how do you feel about today's games? Do you hate chill that much?
"Thorzain "Chill tt" ahahahahha"
"CHILL GET OUT - Funniest moment"
"I heard Naniwa was a bit of a psychopath... I don't know if he's always like this or just acts to be one but it's just a rumor"
"So rude "Chill get out""
"I heard he was like that too when he played WC3. Must be family issues or school issues"
"If Naniwa comes to Korea and acts like that he's in for a beating"
TSL GRAND FINALS REACTION
"4:3 was a really tight match"
"Was an epic series"
"So epic, Wow Thorzain going through fruitdealer, MC, Kas, Naniwa.. And the games were also very epic. It was as big as GSL finals"
"hahaha it was better than GSL finals"
"Thorzain is really good"
"It's been a long time since I felt so nervous. It was so heart wrenching my toto was on the line with the final game. I almost threw up"
"I was really nervous, my heart rate went up so much"
"My hands were sweating the entire match. Must watch for people who haven't seen it. I feel as though there is no skill gap between foreigners and koreans"
"Epic match"
"I wish players like these and top4 of MLG come out and compete in the GSL. I heard Naniwa wanting to attend the GSL often"
"10 times better than all GSL final lol"
"The best moment was "CHILL GET OUT""
"I felt as though the players didn't have a unique style like Nestea. So the games were fun to watch but not as epic. I feel as though Thorzain played worse than when he faced MC"
"I watched all the games through live stream and game 6 when he barely held the rush made me so nervous. As a thorzain fan I was so nervous. When he couldn't repair the bunker i thought it was over. Anyways he pulled an awesome comeback!"
"That moment in game 6 was the highlight I agree. It's more fun if you're rooting for a particular player"
"It's fun a series if you were rooting for a player but I wouldn't call it an epic series. Most of the games were if you defend an all-in rush you win, if you don't you lose. All 4 wins were like that... However I would like to see Naniwa and Thorzain in the GSL"
Will post more later tonight!
TSL GRAND FINALS Preview from PLAY XP
"If there aren't any koreans, I'm not going to watch"
"This is a big match"
TSL GRAND FINALS LR from PLAYXP
"TSL is starting!"
"TSL is so exciting"
"TSL finals is so entertaining"
"Naniwa must be so fucking angry'
"From watching thorzain I feel like foreign viking control is better than ours"
"EMP's are crazy"
"Thorzain owes chill dinner"
"7!! Thank you!! Also if you see Naniwa just run away he must be so angry"
"Today's MVP--- Chill"
"Chill get out lolollol"
"7 get out"
"never though to see the phrase chill get out"
"Naniwa how do you feel about today's games? Do you hate chill that much?
"Thorzain "Chill tt" ahahahahha"
"CHILL GET OUT - Funniest moment"
"I heard Naniwa was a bit of a psychopath... I don't know if he's always like this or just acts to be one but it's just a rumor"
"So rude "Chill get out""
"I heard he was like that too when he played WC3. Must be family issues or school issues"
"If Naniwa comes to Korea and acts like that he's in for a beating"
TSL GRAND FINALS REACTION
"4:3 was a really tight match"
"Was an epic series"
"So epic, Wow Thorzain going through fruitdealer, MC, Kas, Naniwa.. And the games were also very epic. It was as big as GSL finals"
"hahaha it was better than GSL finals"
"Thorzain is really good"
"It's been a long time since I felt so nervous. It was so heart wrenching my toto was on the line with the final game. I almost threw up"
"I was really nervous, my heart rate went up so much"
"My hands were sweating the entire match. Must watch for people who haven't seen it. I feel as though there is no skill gap between foreigners and koreans"
"Epic match"
"I wish players like these and top4 of MLG come out and compete in the GSL. I heard Naniwa wanting to attend the GSL often"
"10 times better than all GSL final lol"
"The best moment was "CHILL GET OUT""
"I felt as though the players didn't have a unique style like Nestea. So the games were fun to watch but not as epic. I feel as though Thorzain played worse than when he faced MC"
"I watched all the games through live stream and game 6 when he barely held the rush made me so nervous. As a thorzain fan I was so nervous. When he couldn't repair the bunker i thought it was over. Anyways he pulled an awesome comeback!"
"That moment in game 6 was the highlight I agree. It's more fun if you're rooting for a particular player"
"It's fun a series if you were rooting for a player but I wouldn't call it an epic series. Most of the games were if you defend an all-in rush you win, if you don't you lose. All 4 wins were like that... However I would like to see Naniwa and Thorzain in the GSL"
Will post more later tonight!
If someone wants to translate additional reactions to the games of today or future games and post it here I'll gladly keep the topic updated. Would be much appreciated!
