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On February 04 2016 20:43 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 19:57 OtherWorld wrote:
I mean tbh the mods are very lenient with double posting so it's not that much of an issue. The only case when double posting is annoying is when (1) the thread is moving slowly BUT not too slow and (2) your two posts are less than ~20 hours apart.
Case study 1 : In a "Other Games" thread (like, I dunno, The Witcher 3 thread), you were the last to post, one month ago. Now, you've seen an article about the new expansion, and want to post it in the The Witcher 3 thread. Here, you clearly won't edit your old post, because it wouldn't bump the thread and people subscribed to it wouldn't see that you added something : it would be useless to edit it. Thus you'll double post.
Case study 2 : In a "General" thread (like, I dunno, the US Politics thread), you were the last to post, answering a quote from the last page, 30 minutes ago. Now, as you're clearly an expert on politics, you want to answer another post made before yours. Here, your last post is only 30 minutes old, and if no one posted in the last 30 minutes the thread is reasonably slow. Thus here it is better to edit your last post to add in the post you wanted to make, as few people subscribed to the thread will have seen your last post in 30 minutes. What you can do too is write your new post, copy it, F5 the thread, and if there's a new post by someone else, post it as a new post.
However triple and more posting should be instawarning the first time and instaban the second time. I don't get why it's not the case. Your second example is a great example of how silly the rule is. This is still somewhat okay on a desktop, where selecting and copy pasting is quick and easy. But for ppl posting mainly from mobile phones, it is hard enough to type; let alone copy paste quotes into the correct place for editing a post. If it's the same topic, following this rule makes some sense, but if you're replying to, for instance, someone talking about Trump's polling in South Carolina, and the water situation in Flint, then having that be in the same, edited, post makes the thread (far) less legible than the occasional double posting. Luckily, in practice, both posters and mods are fairly sensible when it comes to double posting. Edit: @diabolic if you really want to doublepost, though, go join a mafia game. And posting this edit as a new post is the kind of double posting that is discouraged. Same topic and low additional information
OK, I do not want to become rude again ... but what is this nonsense?
You are reasonably explaining, why the second example does not make any sense, why it does not make sense to put answers into one post when they are related to completely different ideas.
And then, you ask me, if I really want to doublepost, I should join some Mafia game? What is this bullshit? Why should I want to doublepost???? Why should I join some game, I do not want to join?
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I find it rather difficult to quote multiple posts; and if they're on different topics, it makes it much harder for responders to respond to only the part they want to (otherwise you end up with enormous quote trees that aren't relevant to that line of discussion). It'd be nice if the quote management system was upgraded, at least to support a better multi-quote system.
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On February 04 2016 21:28 Diabolique wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 20:43 Acrofales wrote:On February 04 2016 19:57 OtherWorld wrote:
I mean tbh the mods are very lenient with double posting so it's not that much of an issue. The only case when double posting is annoying is when (1) the thread is moving slowly BUT not too slow and (2) your two posts are less than ~20 hours apart.
Case study 1 : In a "Other Games" thread (like, I dunno, The Witcher 3 thread), you were the last to post, one month ago. Now, you've seen an article about the new expansion, and want to post it in the The Witcher 3 thread. Here, you clearly won't edit your old post, because it wouldn't bump the thread and people subscribed to it wouldn't see that you added something : it would be useless to edit it. Thus you'll double post.
Case study 2 : In a "General" thread (like, I dunno, the US Politics thread), you were the last to post, answering a quote from the last page, 30 minutes ago. Now, as you're clearly an expert on politics, you want to answer another post made before yours. Here, your last post is only 30 minutes old, and if no one posted in the last 30 minutes the thread is reasonably slow. Thus here it is better to edit your last post to add in the post you wanted to make, as few people subscribed to the thread will have seen your last post in 30 minutes. What you can do too is write your new post, copy it, F5 the thread, and if there's a new post by someone else, post it as a new post.
However triple and more posting should be instawarning the first time and instaban the second time. I don't get why it's not the case. Your second example is a great example of how silly the rule is. This is still somewhat okay on a desktop, where selecting and copy pasting is quick and easy. But for ppl posting mainly from mobile phones, it is hard enough to type; let alone copy paste quotes into the correct place for editing a post. If it's the same topic, following this rule makes some sense, but if you're replying to, for instance, someone talking about Trump's polling in South Carolina, and the water situation in Flint, then having that be in the same, edited, post makes the thread (far) less legible than the occasional double posting. Luckily, in practice, both posters and mods are fairly sensible when it comes to double posting. Edit: @diabolic if you really want to doublepost, though, go join a mafia game. And posting this edit as a new post is the kind of double posting that is discouraged. Same topic and low additional information OK, I do not want to become rude again ... but what is this nonsense? You are reasonably explaining, why the second example does not make any sense, why it does not make sense to put answers into one post when they are related to completely different ideas. And then, you ask me, if I really want to doublepost, I should join some Mafia game? What is this bullshit? Why should I want to doublepost???? Why should I join some game, I do not want to join?
Not really what I meant. If you want to doublepost without any risk of ever having any repercussions, regardless of how useless your posts are (except of course, getting lynched in the game), then play mafia. In all other situations, use your common sense.
Generally, if you find yourself posting lots of subsequent short, uninformative posts, you are not posting constructively. Sit back, collect your thoughts and post them in a single better post. If you're posting well-reasoned posts on different themes running in the same thread and find yourself double posting, you should generally be okay. Triple or quadruple posts, however, are a clear sign you should take (or actually, should already have taken) a breather and give other people some time to respond.
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On February 04 2016 18:49 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 17:48 FFW_Rude wrote:On February 04 2016 17:31 Diabolique wrote:On February 04 2016 17:24 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On February 04 2016 17:18 Diabolique wrote:On February 04 2016 16:38 Seeker wrote:On February 04 2016 16:32 Diabolique wrote:On February 04 2016 16:19 WrathSCII wrote:On February 04 2016 16:11 Seeker wrote:
Don't test the mods. There is a reason TL doesn't allow multi-posting. Stick to the rules. Easy there champ. He was not testing anyone. He said that he did understand the warning was from a mod but a mistake from the system. The way it is displayed is kinda confusing for new comers as the warning comes from TL.Bot instead of the mod who made the warning. That system could you use a little visual improvement to understand that warnings are issued from mods not from TL.Bot Good idea. If I got the original warning from a mod, I would have answered to him that it is a mistake and we could clarify the situation. On February 04 2016 16:22 Phredxor wrote:On February 04 2016 16:19 WrathSCII wrote:On February 04 2016 16:11 Seeker wrote:
Don't test the mods. There is a reason TL doesn't allow multi-posting. Stick to the rules. Easy there champ. He was not testing anyone. He said that he did understand the warning was from a mod but a mistake from the system. The way it is displayed is kinda confusing for new comers as the warning comes from TL.Bot instead of the mod who made the warning. That system could you use a little visual improvement to understand that warnings are issued from mods not from TL.Bot I think he's referring to the fact that straight after explaining he now knows the rules he double posted. Well, I have seen people doing what I did = marking the second post with "double post" and they were not banned ... so I thought, this might be OK if I do it as well? :-) On February 04 2016 16:29 Seeker wrote:My tone was half joking half serious. I'm not a stick up my ass, old, stingy, and cranky mod yet  But Phredxor is right. He double posted on the previous page. I'm pretty sure on purpose too On February 04 2016 16:15 Diabolique wrote:On February 04 2016 16:11 Seeker wrote:
Don't test the mods. There is a reason TL doesn't allow multi-posting. Stick to the rules. I just don't understand, WHY? I would even not know, it is a rule, if I was not banned for it ... And when I do not understand the reason, I do not see a way how to follow it. Am I allowed to do a double / triple / quadruple post, if the posts will be let's say a few days from each other? As an example - I am trying to do some posts in the sOs Fan club thread. Almost noone else is active there. So I come back there after a few days with something new, and I see, the last post (a few days old) is mine. Does that mean, I am not allowed to post a new post? Or do I need to edit the last post adn add the new ideas into the old post? What a bullshit! Multiple posting in fan clubs is perfectly fine. Mods shouldn't action you for that. Multiple posting in LR threads and threads that have heavy discussions going on is not. It gets spammy and annoying. And if we allow one person to do it then we have to allow everyone to do it. Then chaos breaks out and no one can really understand what anyone is saying. OK, this makes more sense now if it is allowed in fan clubs ... and the multiple posting in heavy discussions I do every day without a problem, as there is always someone posting between my posts. The problem are the "slow threads" ... so is there another exception than fan clubs? This is so stupid to answer to three posts in one post :-) How you did it just now is correct. Quote multiple times and put it all into one post. Thank you for doing that. If it's a really slowly moving thread and you don't want to get warned or banned for multiple posting, then post in here, PM a mod, or go to the Ask TL Staff Anything thread and ask us if it's okay to multi-post. We'll take a look at it, and if we think multiple posting should be allowed in that situation, we'll give you the thumbs up. Btw, if you post, then someone posts in between your next post, that is not multiple posting. That's just posting Look, Seeker, I really like you and respect you. But I do not think, I will be using this "answering in one post" much. Because this is a nonsense and I do not like it. But I promise, I will be very careful with any further double postings. Mostly, I will just not do the second post. So: 1. In fast flowing discussions, I do not care, I will just post quickly, in 90% of cases, somebody else writes in between my posts. 2. In sOs fanclub, I will not care if my posts are several days away from each other or describe another topic completely. 3. If I will want to make a double post in a slow moving thread, I will for sure not contact you or the mods and ask for permission, this is just some stupid discussion and I believe, your (and my) time is too valuable to contact you with something so stupid. So in these cases, I will consider whether it is reasonable in that particular situation to make a double post instead of putting it into the old post, and if yes, I will do the double post. In the worst case, I will be banned again for 2 days and that is nothing, I can't live with, just the mods of TL would fall in my eyes one level deeper. Dude. You take your posting way too seriously. Trust me, I don't, but I was banned for it and became a 'topic' in this thread, saying I am double / triple / quadruple posting because ... I do not know why ... So as FPL made me to come back to TL, I just wanted to clarify the situation. BTW: Cascade, thanks for the post, that is how I feel it as well. The only thing that time - I did not understand the warning from the TL.bot. I thought, it was just some error from the bot, who did not see, I was reacting to completely different posts - I was banned for the posts on the top of the page: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/500618-dh-leipzig-details-announced?page=10 . Seeker, thanks for the last post, I hope it will be OK in the future :-) If your passion is double posting. Just do LRs man. (espacially the one in the morning) On February 04 2016 17:37 opisska wrote:
Banning people for making two posts with the same username next to each other isn't strict enough! Even two posts with the same country of residence should be be bannable ... Damnit. I wanted to say the same thing with 2 Jin Air Flair and i saw Phredox had a KT one  Pls don't get me banned
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On February 04 2016 20:05 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 20:00 FFW_Rude wrote:On February 04 2016 18:49 Phredxor wrote:On February 04 2016 17:48 FFW_Rude wrote:On February 04 2016 17:31 Diabolique wrote:On February 04 2016 17:24 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On February 04 2016 17:18 Diabolique wrote:On February 04 2016 16:38 Seeker wrote:On February 04 2016 16:32 Diabolique wrote:On February 04 2016 16:19 WrathSCII wrote:
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Easy there champ. He was not testing anyone. He said that he did understand the warning was from a mod but a mistake from the system.
The way it is displayed is kinda confusing for new comers as the warning comes from TL.Bot instead of the mod who made the warning.
That system could you use a little visual improvement to understand that warnings are issued from mods not from TL.Bot Good idea. If I got the original warning from a mod, I would have answered to him that it is a mistake and we could clarify the situation. On February 04 2016 16:22 Phredxor wrote:
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I think he's referring to the fact that straight after explaining he now knows the rules he double posted. Well, I have seen people doing what I did = marking the second post with "double post" and they were not banned ... so I thought, this might be OK if I do it as well? :-) On February 04 2016 16:29 Seeker wrote:My tone was half joking half serious. I'm not a stick up my ass, old, stingy, and cranky mod yet But Phredxor is right. He double posted on the previous page. I'm pretty sure on purpose too [quote] Multiple posting in fan clubs is perfectly fine. Mods shouldn't action you for that. Multiple posting in LR threads and threads that have heavy discussions going on is not. It gets spammy and annoying. And if we allow one person to do it then we have to allow everyone to do it. Then chaos breaks out and no one can really understand what anyone is saying. OK, this makes more sense now if it is allowed in fan clubs ... and the multiple posting in heavy discussions I do every day without a problem, as there is always someone posting between my posts. The problem are the "slow threads" ... so is there another exception than fan clubs? This is so stupid to answer to three posts in one post :-) How you did it just now is correct. Quote multiple times and put it all into one post. Thank you for doing that. If it's a really slowly moving thread and you don't want to get warned or banned for multiple posting, then post in here, PM a mod, or go to the Ask TL Staff Anything thread and ask us if it's okay to multi-post. We'll take a look at it, and if we think multiple posting should be allowed in that situation, we'll give you the thumbs up. Btw, if you post, then someone posts in between your next post, that is not multiple posting. That's just posting Look, Seeker, I really like you and respect you. But I do not think, I will be using this "answering in one post" much. Because this is a nonsense and I do not like it. But I promise, I will be very careful with any further double postings. Mostly, I will just not do the second post. So: 1. In fast flowing discussions, I do not care, I will just post quickly, in 90% of cases, somebody else writes in between my posts. 2. In sOs fanclub, I will not care if my posts are several days away from each other or describe another topic completely. 3. If I will want to make a double post in a slow moving thread, I will for sure not contact you or the mods and ask for permission, this is just some stupid discussion and I believe, your (and my) time is too valuable to contact you with something so stupid. So in these cases, I will consider whether it is reasonable in that particular situation to make a double post instead of putting it into the old post, and if yes, I will do the double post. In the worst case, I will be banned again for 2 days and that is nothing, I can't live with, just the mods of TL would fall in my eyes one level deeper. Dude. You take your posting way too seriously. Trust me, I don't, but I was banned for it and became a 'topic' in this thread, saying I am double / triple / quadruple posting because ... I do not know why ... So as FPL made me to come back to TL, I just wanted to clarify the situation. BTW: Cascade, thanks for the post, that is how I feel it as well. The only thing that time - I did not understand the warning from the TL.bot. I thought, it was just some error from the bot, who did not see, I was reacting to completely different posts - I was banned for the posts on the top of the page: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/500618-dh-leipzig-details-announced?page=10 . Seeker, thanks for the last post, I hope it will be OK in the future :-) If your passion is double posting. Just do LRs man. (espacially the one in the morning) On February 04 2016 17:37 opisska wrote:
Banning people for making two posts with the same username next to each other isn't strict enough! Even two posts with the same country of residence should be be bannable ... Damnit. I wanted to say the same thing with 2 Jin Air Flair and i saw Phredox had a KT one Pls don't get me banned Don't banbet me then  On February 04 2016 17:52 Diabolique wrote:On February 04 2016 17:48 FFW_Rude wrote:On February 04 2016 17:31 Diabolique wrote:On February 04 2016 17:24 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On February 04 2016 17:18 Diabolique wrote:On February 04 2016 16:38 Seeker wrote:On February 04 2016 16:32 Diabolique wrote:On February 04 2016 16:19 WrathSCII wrote:
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Easy there champ. He was not testing anyone. He said that he did understand the warning was from a mod but a mistake from the system.
The way it is displayed is kinda confusing for new comers as the warning comes from TL.Bot instead of the mod who made the warning.
That system could you use a little visual improvement to understand that warnings are issued from mods not from TL.Bot Good idea. If I got the original warning from a mod, I would have answered to him that it is a mistake and we could clarify the situation. On February 04 2016 16:22 Phredxor wrote:
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I think he's referring to the fact that straight after explaining he now knows the rules he double posted. Well, I have seen people doing what I did = marking the second post with "double post" and they were not banned ... so I thought, this might be OK if I do it as well? :-) On February 04 2016 16:29 Seeker wrote:My tone was half joking half serious. I'm not a stick up my ass, old, stingy, and cranky mod yet But Phredxor is right. He double posted on the previous page. I'm pretty sure on purpose too [quote] Multiple posting in fan clubs is perfectly fine. Mods shouldn't action you for that. Multiple posting in LR threads and threads that have heavy discussions going on is not. It gets spammy and annoying. And if we allow one person to do it then we have to allow everyone to do it. Then chaos breaks out and no one can really understand what anyone is saying. OK, this makes more sense now if it is allowed in fan clubs ... and the multiple posting in heavy discussions I do every day without a problem, as there is always someone posting between my posts. The problem are the "slow threads" ... so is there another exception than fan clubs? This is so stupid to answer to three posts in one post :-) How you did it just now is correct. Quote multiple times and put it all into one post. Thank you for doing that. If it's a really slowly moving thread and you don't want to get warned or banned for multiple posting, then post in here, PM a mod, or go to the Ask TL Staff Anything thread and ask us if it's okay to multi-post. We'll take a look at it, and if we think multiple posting should be allowed in that situation, we'll give you the thumbs up. Btw, if you post, then someone posts in between your next post, that is not multiple posting. That's just posting Look, Seeker, I really like you and respect you. But I do not think, I will be using this "answering in one post" much. Because this is a nonsense and I do not like it. But I promise, I will be very careful with any further double postings. Mostly, I will just not do the second post. So: 1. In fast flowing discussions, I do not care, I will just post quickly, in 90% of cases, somebody else writes in between my posts. 2. In sOs fanclub, I will not care if my posts are several days away from each other or describe another topic completely. 3. If I will want to make a double post in a slow moving thread, I will for sure not contact you or the mods and ask for permission, this is just some stupid discussion and I believe, your (and my) time is too valuable to contact you with something so stupid. So in these cases, I will consider whether it is reasonable in that particular situation to make a double post instead of putting it into the old post, and if yes, I will do the double post. In the worst case, I will be banned again for 2 days and that is nothing, I can't live with, just the mods of TL would fall in my eyes one level deeper. Dude. You take your posting way too seriously. Trust me, I don't, but I was banned for it and became a 'topic' in this thread, saying I am double / triple / quadruple posting because ... I do not know why ... So as FPL made me to come back to TL, I just wanted to clarify the situation. BTW: Cascade, thanks for the post, that is how I feel it as well. The only thing that time - I did not understand the warning from the TL.bot. I thought, it was just some error from the bot, who did not see, I was reacting to completely different posts - I was banned for the posts on the top of the page: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/500618-dh-leipzig-details-announced?page=10 . Seeker, thanks for the last post, I hope it will be OK in the future :-) If your passion is double posting. Just do LRs man. (espacially the one in the morning) On February 04 2016 17:37 opisska wrote:
Banning people for making two posts with the same username next to each other isn't strict enough! Even two posts with the same country of residence should be be bannable ... Damnit. I wanted to say the same thing with 2 Jin Air Flair and i saw Phredox had a KT one OMG! Why should be my passion double posting???? I had even no idea that something like that exists when I was banned. And what is LR? EDIT: no idea: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LR That was some full romanian there. I was joking it was 2nd degree  LR is when you write in a thread what is happening in a game for people that can't watch it. So they read your report and feal the live of the game. It's a live recap if you want. On February 04 2016 19:57 OtherWorld wrote:
I mean tbh the mods are very lenient with double posting so it's not that much of an issue. The only case when double posting is annoying is when (1) the thread is moving slowly BUT not too slow and (2) your two posts are less than ~20 hours apart.
Case study 1 : In a "Other Games" thread (like, I dunno, The Witcher 3 thread), you were the last to post, one month ago. Now, you've seen an article about the new expansion, and want to post it in the The Witcher 3 thread. Here, you clearly won't edit your old post, because it wouldn't bump the thread and people subscribed to it wouldn't see that you added something : it would be useless to edit it. Thus you'll double post.
Case study 2 : In a "General" thread (like, I dunno, the US Politics thread), you were the last to post, answering a quote from the last page, 30 minutes ago. Now, as you're clearly an expert on politics, you want to answer another post made before yours. Here, your last post is only 30 minutes old, and if no one posted in the last 30 minutes the thread is reasonably slow. Thus here it is better to edit your last post to add in the post you wanted to make, as few people subscribed to the thread will have seen your last post in 30 minutes. What you can do too is write your new post, copy it, F5 the thread, and if there's a new post by someone else, post it as a new post.
However triple and more posting should be instawarning the first time and instaban the second time. I don't get why it's not the case. Sometime you can triple or quadruple post when LRing (game, event etc...) even if it's rare it happens Well LRs are special cases though
rules are rules, ban all LRers
kespaaa
I was very tempted to double post btw but I chickened out.. :/
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On February 04 2016 21:28 Diabolique wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 20:43 Acrofales wrote:On February 04 2016 19:57 OtherWorld wrote:
I mean tbh the mods are very lenient with double posting so it's not that much of an issue. The only case when double posting is annoying is when (1) the thread is moving slowly BUT not too slow and (2) your two posts are less than ~20 hours apart.
Case study 1 : In a "Other Games" thread (like, I dunno, The Witcher 3 thread), you were the last to post, one month ago. Now, you've seen an article about the new expansion, and want to post it in the The Witcher 3 thread. Here, you clearly won't edit your old post, because it wouldn't bump the thread and people subscribed to it wouldn't see that you added something : it would be useless to edit it. Thus you'll double post.
Case study 2 : In a "General" thread (like, I dunno, the US Politics thread), you were the last to post, answering a quote from the last page, 30 minutes ago. Now, as you're clearly an expert on politics, you want to answer another post made before yours. Here, your last post is only 30 minutes old, and if no one posted in the last 30 minutes the thread is reasonably slow. Thus here it is better to edit your last post to add in the post you wanted to make, as few people subscribed to the thread will have seen your last post in 30 minutes. What you can do too is write your new post, copy it, F5 the thread, and if there's a new post by someone else, post it as a new post.
However triple and more posting should be instawarning the first time and instaban the second time. I don't get why it's not the case. Your second example is a great example of how silly the rule is. This is still somewhat okay on a desktop, where selecting and copy pasting is quick and easy. But for ppl posting mainly from mobile phones, it is hard enough to type; let alone copy paste quotes into the correct place for editing a post. If it's the same topic, following this rule makes some sense, but if you're replying to, for instance, someone talking about Trump's polling in South Carolina, and the water situation in Flint, then having that be in the same, edited, post makes the thread (far) less legible than the occasional double posting. Luckily, in practice, both posters and mods are fairly sensible when it comes to double posting. Edit: @diabolic if you really want to doublepost, though, go join a mafia game. And posting this edit as a new post is the kind of double posting that is discouraged. Same topic and low additional information OK, I do not want to become rude again ... but what is this nonsense? You are reasonably explaining, why the second example does not make any sense, why it does not make sense to put answers into one post when they are related to completely different ideas. And then, you ask me, if I really want to doublepost, I should join some Mafia game? What is this bullshit? Why should I want to doublepost???? Why should I join some game, I do not want to join?
You seem to be missing some social clues here, probably due to a problem with english as a non-native language. What you replied to is a half-joke (Not really funny, but also obviously not serious)
If you start a huge discussion on whether or not you should be allowed to double post, and other people think you are making a giant heap out of nothing, they will reply something along the lines of "If you really want to double-post, you should do xyz", with the point being that there is not reason to be that interested in double-posts, as they really don't serve any purpose, and you can achieve the exact same conversation without one with only a miniscule additional effort. The social etiquette of tTL is "don't double post", so unless there is a major reason to contest this, the reasonable solution is to simply comply with a rule that you may not agree with, but which really doesn't effect anything in any way whatsoever.
You seem incredibly adamant on defending your "right" to double-post, and really noone except for you cares for that. That leads to people making comments like the above one, with an undertone of "Dude, why are you making such a big deal out of this? Just don't doublepost, what is the point you want to make?"
And if you have some deep desire to "fight the power", there are lots of better fights to take rather than the fight for the right to double post on TL.
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On February 04 2016 22:54 Simberto wrote:
And if you have some deep desire to "fight the power", there are lots of better fights to take rather than the fight for the right to double post on TL.
Very much this! You can always fight for the rights of the oppressed and often unrightfully banned common folk of TL in the murky waters of Website Feedback.
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On February 04 2016 23:12 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 22:54 Simberto wrote:
And if you have some deep desire to "fight the power", there are lots of better fights to take rather than the fight for the right to double post on TL. Very much this! You can always fight for the rights of the oppressed and often unrightfully banned common folk of TL in the murky waters of Website Feedback.
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On February 04 2016 22:54 Simberto wrote:
And if you have some deep desire to "fight the power", there are lots of better fights to take rather than the fight for the right to double post on TL.
Don't take TL hostage if you want to fight the power though... Because it's a bannable offense.
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On February 04 2016 23:46 FFW_Rude wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 22:54 Simberto wrote:
And if you have some deep desire to "fight the power", there are lots of better fights to take rather than the fight for the right to double post on TL. Don't take TL hostage if you want to fight the power though... Because it's a bannable offense.
No, you fight with arguments, logic and wordsmithery.
And hashtags, of course, don't forget the hasthags.
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On February 04 2016 23:47 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 23:46 FFW_Rude wrote:On February 04 2016 22:54 Simberto wrote:
And if you have some deep desire to "fight the power", there are lots of better fights to take rather than the fight for the right to double post on TL. Don't take TL hostage if you want to fight the power though... Because it's a bannable offense. No, you fight with arguments, logic and wordsmithery. And hashtags, of course, don't forget the hasthags.
I'm assuming you spend too much time in General forums.
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On February 04 2016 23:50 FFW_Rude wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 23:47 opisska wrote:On February 04 2016 23:46 FFW_Rude wrote:On February 04 2016 22:54 Simberto wrote:
And if you have some deep desire to "fight the power", there are lots of better fights to take rather than the fight for the right to double post on TL. Don't take TL hostage if you want to fight the power though... Because it's a bannable offense. No, you fight with arguments, logic and wordsmithery. And hashtags, of course, don't forget the hasthags. I'm assuming you spend too much time in General forums.
#freegeneralforums.
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On February 04 2016 20:43 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 19:57 OtherWorld wrote:
I mean tbh the mods are very lenient with double posting so it's not that much of an issue. The only case when double posting is annoying is when (1) the thread is moving slowly BUT not too slow and (2) your two posts are less than ~20 hours apart.
Case study 1 : In a "Other Games" thread (like, I dunno, The Witcher 3 thread), you were the last to post, one month ago. Now, you've seen an article about the new expansion, and want to post it in the The Witcher 3 thread. Here, you clearly won't edit your old post, because it wouldn't bump the thread and people subscribed to it wouldn't see that you added something : it would be useless to edit it. Thus you'll double post.
Case study 2 : In a "General" thread (like, I dunno, the US Politics thread), you were the last to post, answering a quote from the last page, 30 minutes ago. Now, as you're clearly an expert on politics, you want to answer another post made before yours. Here, your last post is only 30 minutes old, and if no one posted in the last 30 minutes the thread is reasonably slow. Thus here it is better to edit your last post to add in the post you wanted to make, as few people subscribed to the thread will have seen your last post in 30 minutes. What you can do too is write your new post, copy it, F5 the thread, and if there's a new post by someone else, post it as a new post.
However triple and more posting should be instawarning the first time and instaban the second time. I don't get why it's not the case. Your second example is a great example of how silly the rule is. This is still somewhat okay on a desktop, where selecting and copy pasting is quick and easy. But for ppl posting mainly from mobile phones, it is hard enough to type; let alone copy paste quotes into the correct place for editing a post. If it's the same topic, following this rule makes some sense, but if you're replying to, for instance, someone talking about Trump's polling in South Carolina, and the water situation in Flint, then having that be in the same, edited, post makes the thread (far) less legible than the occasional double posting. Luckily, in practice, both posters and mods are fairly sensible when it comes to double posting. Edit: @diabolic if you really want to doublepost, though, go join a mafia game. And posting this edit as a new post is the kind of double posting that is discouraged. Same topic and low additional information
Really out of curiosity (I am not criticising anything or anyone), why would you mainly go and directly take part of a community website using a smartphone? ('In which circumstances' maybe?)
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On February 05 2016 00:12 AbouSV wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 20:43 Acrofales wrote:On February 04 2016 19:57 OtherWorld wrote:
I mean tbh the mods are very lenient with double posting so it's not that much of an issue. The only case when double posting is annoying is when (1) the thread is moving slowly BUT not too slow and (2) your two posts are less than ~20 hours apart.
Case study 1 : In a "Other Games" thread (like, I dunno, The Witcher 3 thread), you were the last to post, one month ago. Now, you've seen an article about the new expansion, and want to post it in the The Witcher 3 thread. Here, you clearly won't edit your old post, because it wouldn't bump the thread and people subscribed to it wouldn't see that you added something : it would be useless to edit it. Thus you'll double post.
Case study 2 : In a "General" thread (like, I dunno, the US Politics thread), you were the last to post, answering a quote from the last page, 30 minutes ago. Now, as you're clearly an expert on politics, you want to answer another post made before yours. Here, your last post is only 30 minutes old, and if no one posted in the last 30 minutes the thread is reasonably slow. Thus here it is better to edit your last post to add in the post you wanted to make, as few people subscribed to the thread will have seen your last post in 30 minutes. What you can do too is write your new post, copy it, F5 the thread, and if there's a new post by someone else, post it as a new post.
However triple and more posting should be instawarning the first time and instaban the second time. I don't get why it's not the case. Your second example is a great example of how silly the rule is. This is still somewhat okay on a desktop, where selecting and copy pasting is quick and easy. But for ppl posting mainly from mobile phones, it is hard enough to type; let alone copy paste quotes into the correct place for editing a post. If it's the same topic, following this rule makes some sense, but if you're replying to, for instance, someone talking about Trump's polling in South Carolina, and the water situation in Flint, then having that be in the same, edited, post makes the thread (far) less legible than the occasional double posting. Luckily, in practice, both posters and mods are fairly sensible when it comes to double posting. Edit: @diabolic if you really want to doublepost, though, go join a mafia game. And posting this edit as a new post is the kind of double posting that is discouraged. Same topic and low additional information Really out of curiosity (I am not criticising anything or anyone), why would you mainly go and directly take part of a community website using a smartphone? ('In which circumstances' maybe?)
Because TL is love, TL is life!
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On February 05 2016 00:15 farvacola wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2016 00:12 AbouSV wrote:On February 04 2016 20:43 Acrofales wrote:On February 04 2016 19:57 OtherWorld wrote:
I mean tbh the mods are very lenient with double posting so it's not that much of an issue. The only case when double posting is annoying is when (1) the thread is moving slowly BUT not too slow and (2) your two posts are less than ~20 hours apart.
Case study 1 : In a "Other Games" thread (like, I dunno, The Witcher 3 thread), you were the last to post, one month ago. Now, you've seen an article about the new expansion, and want to post it in the The Witcher 3 thread. Here, you clearly won't edit your old post, because it wouldn't bump the thread and people subscribed to it wouldn't see that you added something : it would be useless to edit it. Thus you'll double post.
Case study 2 : In a "General" thread (like, I dunno, the US Politics thread), you were the last to post, answering a quote from the last page, 30 minutes ago. Now, as you're clearly an expert on politics, you want to answer another post made before yours. Here, your last post is only 30 minutes old, and if no one posted in the last 30 minutes the thread is reasonably slow. Thus here it is better to edit your last post to add in the post you wanted to make, as few people subscribed to the thread will have seen your last post in 30 minutes. What you can do too is write your new post, copy it, F5 the thread, and if there's a new post by someone else, post it as a new post.
However triple and more posting should be instawarning the first time and instaban the second time. I don't get why it's not the case. Your second example is a great example of how silly the rule is. This is still somewhat okay on a desktop, where selecting and copy pasting is quick and easy. But for ppl posting mainly from mobile phones, it is hard enough to type; let alone copy paste quotes into the correct place for editing a post. If it's the same topic, following this rule makes some sense, but if you're replying to, for instance, someone talking about Trump's polling in South Carolina, and the water situation in Flint, then having that be in the same, edited, post makes the thread (far) less legible than the occasional double posting. Luckily, in practice, both posters and mods are fairly sensible when it comes to double posting. Edit: @diabolic if you really want to doublepost, though, go join a mafia game. And posting this edit as a new post is the kind of double posting that is discouraged. Same topic and low additional information Really out of curiosity (I am not criticising anything or anyone), why would you mainly go and directly take part of a community website using a smartphone? ('In which circumstances' maybe?) Because TL is love, TL is life!
This I don't deny at all!
But love is still better in a >14" screen anyway!
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On February 05 2016 00:12 AbouSV wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 20:43 Acrofales wrote:On February 04 2016 19:57 OtherWorld wrote:
I mean tbh the mods are very lenient with double posting so it's not that much of an issue. The only case when double posting is annoying is when (1) the thread is moving slowly BUT not too slow and (2) your two posts are less than ~20 hours apart.
Case study 1 : In a "Other Games" thread (like, I dunno, The Witcher 3 thread), you were the last to post, one month ago. Now, you've seen an article about the new expansion, and want to post it in the The Witcher 3 thread. Here, you clearly won't edit your old post, because it wouldn't bump the thread and people subscribed to it wouldn't see that you added something : it would be useless to edit it. Thus you'll double post.
Case study 2 : In a "General" thread (like, I dunno, the US Politics thread), you were the last to post, answering a quote from the last page, 30 minutes ago. Now, as you're clearly an expert on politics, you want to answer another post made before yours. Here, your last post is only 30 minutes old, and if no one posted in the last 30 minutes the thread is reasonably slow. Thus here it is better to edit your last post to add in the post you wanted to make, as few people subscribed to the thread will have seen your last post in 30 minutes. What you can do too is write your new post, copy it, F5 the thread, and if there's a new post by someone else, post it as a new post.
However triple and more posting should be instawarning the first time and instaban the second time. I don't get why it's not the case. Your second example is a great example of how silly the rule is. This is still somewhat okay on a desktop, where selecting and copy pasting is quick and easy. But for ppl posting mainly from mobile phones, it is hard enough to type; let alone copy paste quotes into the correct place for editing a post. If it's the same topic, following this rule makes some sense, but if you're replying to, for instance, someone talking about Trump's polling in South Carolina, and the water situation in Flint, then having that be in the same, edited, post makes the thread (far) less legible than the occasional double posting. Luckily, in practice, both posters and mods are fairly sensible when it comes to double posting. Edit: @diabolic if you really want to doublepost, though, go join a mafia game. And posting this edit as a new post is the kind of double posting that is discouraged. Same topic and low additional information Really out of curiosity (I am not criticising anything or anyone), why would you mainly go and directly take part of a community website using a smartphone? ('In which circumstances' maybe?)
Because I get bored on the bus, I don't generally opt for War and Peace length posts from my phone though.
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On February 05 2016 00:12 AbouSV wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 20:43 Acrofales wrote:On February 04 2016 19:57 OtherWorld wrote:
I mean tbh the mods are very lenient with double posting so it's not that much of an issue. The only case when double posting is annoying is when (1) the thread is moving slowly BUT not too slow and (2) your two posts are less than ~20 hours apart.
Case study 1 : In a "Other Games" thread (like, I dunno, The Witcher 3 thread), you were the last to post, one month ago. Now, you've seen an article about the new expansion, and want to post it in the The Witcher 3 thread. Here, you clearly won't edit your old post, because it wouldn't bump the thread and people subscribed to it wouldn't see that you added something : it would be useless to edit it. Thus you'll double post.
Case study 2 : In a "General" thread (like, I dunno, the US Politics thread), you were the last to post, answering a quote from the last page, 30 minutes ago. Now, as you're clearly an expert on politics, you want to answer another post made before yours. Here, your last post is only 30 minutes old, and if no one posted in the last 30 minutes the thread is reasonably slow. Thus here it is better to edit your last post to add in the post you wanted to make, as few people subscribed to the thread will have seen your last post in 30 minutes. What you can do too is write your new post, copy it, F5 the thread, and if there's a new post by someone else, post it as a new post.
However triple and more posting should be instawarning the first time and instaban the second time. I don't get why it's not the case. Your second example is a great example of how silly the rule is. This is still somewhat okay on a desktop, where selecting and copy pasting is quick and easy. But for ppl posting mainly from mobile phones, it is hard enough to type; let alone copy paste quotes into the correct place for editing a post. If it's the same topic, following this rule makes some sense, but if you're replying to, for instance, someone talking about Trump's polling in South Carolina, and the water situation in Flint, then having that be in the same, edited, post makes the thread (far) less legible than the occasional double posting. Luckily, in practice, both posters and mods are fairly sensible when it comes to double posting. Edit: @diabolic if you really want to doublepost, though, go join a mafia game. And posting this edit as a new post is the kind of double posting that is discouraged. Same topic and low additional information Really out of curiosity (I am not criticising anything or anyone), why would you mainly go and directly take part of a community website using a smartphone? ('In which circumstances' maybe?)
Any time you want to TL, or are bored, but aren't at a computer?
While commuting to work/uni/school is probably one of the more common occasions. I do it sometimes at lunch if my colleagues are to busy to lunch with me. In bed before going to sleep. At breakfast. In the bathroom?
It's the future, I've heard.
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On February 05 2016 00:12 AbouSV wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 20:43 Acrofales wrote:On February 04 2016 19:57 OtherWorld wrote:
I mean tbh the mods are very lenient with double posting so it's not that much of an issue. The only case when double posting is annoying is when (1) the thread is moving slowly BUT not too slow and (2) your two posts are less than ~20 hours apart.
Case study 1 : In a "Other Games" thread (like, I dunno, The Witcher 3 thread), you were the last to post, one month ago. Now, you've seen an article about the new expansion, and want to post it in the The Witcher 3 thread. Here, you clearly won't edit your old post, because it wouldn't bump the thread and people subscribed to it wouldn't see that you added something : it would be useless to edit it. Thus you'll double post.
Case study 2 : In a "General" thread (like, I dunno, the US Politics thread), you were the last to post, answering a quote from the last page, 30 minutes ago. Now, as you're clearly an expert on politics, you want to answer another post made before yours. Here, your last post is only 30 minutes old, and if no one posted in the last 30 minutes the thread is reasonably slow. Thus here it is better to edit your last post to add in the post you wanted to make, as few people subscribed to the thread will have seen your last post in 30 minutes. What you can do too is write your new post, copy it, F5 the thread, and if there's a new post by someone else, post it as a new post.
However triple and more posting should be instawarning the first time and instaban the second time. I don't get why it's not the case. Your second example is a great example of how silly the rule is. This is still somewhat okay on a desktop, where selecting and copy pasting is quick and easy. But for ppl posting mainly from mobile phones, it is hard enough to type; let alone copy paste quotes into the correct place for editing a post. If it's the same topic, following this rule makes some sense, but if you're replying to, for instance, someone talking about Trump's polling in South Carolina, and the water situation in Flint, then having that be in the same, edited, post makes the thread (far) less legible than the occasional double posting. Luckily, in practice, both posters and mods are fairly sensible when it comes to double posting. Edit: @diabolic if you really want to doublepost, though, go join a mafia game. And posting this edit as a new post is the kind of double posting that is discouraged. Same topic and low additional information Really out of curiosity (I am not criticising anything or anyone), why would you mainly go and directly take part of a community website using a smartphone? ('In which circumstances' maybe?)
Family diners
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On February 04 2016 17:44 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 17:40 Cascade wrote:On February 04 2016 17:15 Phredxor wrote:On February 04 2016 17:14 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On February 04 2016 17:11 Phredxor wrote:On February 04 2016 17:10 Seeker wrote:On February 04 2016 17:02 Cascade wrote:On February 04 2016 16:29 Seeker wrote:
Multiple posting in fan clubs is perfectly fine. Mods shouldn't action you for that. Multiple posting in LR threads and threads that have heavy discussions going on is not. It gets spammy and annoying. And if we allow one person to do it then we have to allow everyone to do it. Then chaos breaks out and no one can really understand what anyone is saying. Hmm, I don't feel you quite hit the mark on the explanation here. Honestly, the reason Mystique gave made more sense to me. I don't feel the key thing that allows multiposting is related to how fast the topic moves. Rather, it is just a matter of clear layout of your contribution. The end goal is readability. If you are sticking to one subject, better to write your sub-points in paragraphs or something, so people can see that it is all from the same person. If you are posting on very different topics inside a thread, it is ok to use separate posts. it should be a choice in the same way you chose to split up paragraphs, punctuate, and so on. In the LR example, I'd say it is ok to use separate posts if you are commenting on why sOs decided to go so heavy DTs in last game, discussing soO's rumoured new build on the upcoming map, and exactly how hungover tasteless is. If there are three separate reply-chains on those subjects, I don't see the reason to cram them all in the same post. But Mystique, if you get a warning for double posting, automated or not, and you go on to triple (or quadruple?) post a few hours later, you are not really in a position to claim ignorance. You got the warning, chose to ignore it, and suffered the consequences. Entirely your fault, motivated ban or not, sorry. I'm lazy and didn't feel like giving a long explanation. Also, who is Mystique? Was just about to ask this too.. From the context he means Diabolique I think. That's what I assumed, but it's really different name to get it mixed up with :s haha, oops. You are right ofc. Sorry whatsname. I'll let you off since you're probably in mourning due to your awful cricket team.
Boult for lyfe boys!
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