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On February 04 2016 22:54 Simberto wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 21:28 Diabolique wrote:On February 04 2016 20:43 Acrofales wrote:On February 04 2016 19:57 OtherWorld wrote:
I mean tbh the mods are very lenient with double posting so it's not that much of an issue. The only case when double posting is annoying is when (1) the thread is moving slowly BUT not too slow and (2) your two posts are less than ~20 hours apart.
Case study 1 : In a "Other Games" thread (like, I dunno, The Witcher 3 thread), you were the last to post, one month ago. Now, you've seen an article about the new expansion, and want to post it in the The Witcher 3 thread. Here, you clearly won't edit your old post, because it wouldn't bump the thread and people subscribed to it wouldn't see that you added something : it would be useless to edit it. Thus you'll double post.
Case study 2 : In a "General" thread (like, I dunno, the US Politics thread), you were the last to post, answering a quote from the last page, 30 minutes ago. Now, as you're clearly an expert on politics, you want to answer another post made before yours. Here, your last post is only 30 minutes old, and if no one posted in the last 30 minutes the thread is reasonably slow. Thus here it is better to edit your last post to add in the post you wanted to make, as few people subscribed to the thread will have seen your last post in 30 minutes. What you can do too is write your new post, copy it, F5 the thread, and if there's a new post by someone else, post it as a new post.
However triple and more posting should be instawarning the first time and instaban the second time. I don't get why it's not the case. Your second example is a great example of how silly the rule is. This is still somewhat okay on a desktop, where selecting and copy pasting is quick and easy. But for ppl posting mainly from mobile phones, it is hard enough to type; let alone copy paste quotes into the correct place for editing a post. If it's the same topic, following this rule makes some sense, but if you're replying to, for instance, someone talking about Trump's polling in South Carolina, and the water situation in Flint, then having that be in the same, edited, post makes the thread (far) less legible than the occasional double posting. Luckily, in practice, both posters and mods are fairly sensible when it comes to double posting. Edit: @diabolic if you really want to doublepost, though, go join a mafia game. And posting this edit as a new post is the kind of double posting that is discouraged. Same topic and low additional information OK, I do not want to become rude again ... but what is this nonsense? You are reasonably explaining, why the second example does not make any sense, why it does not make sense to put answers into one post when they are related to completely different ideas. And then, you ask me, if I really want to doublepost, I should join some Mafia game? What is this bullshit? Why should I want to doublepost???? Why should I join some game, I do not want to join? You seem to be missing some social clues here, probably due to a problem with english as a non-native language. What you replied to is a half-joke (Not really funny, but also obviously not serious) If you start a huge discussion on whether or not you should be allowed to double post, and other people think you are making a giant heap out of nothing, they will reply something along the lines of "If you really want to double-post, you should do xyz", with the point being that there is not reason to be that interested in double-posts, as they really don't serve any purpose, and you can achieve the exact same conversation without one with only a miniscule additional effort. The social etiquette of tTL is "don't double post", so unless there is a major reason to contest this, the reasonable solution is to simply comply with a rule that you may not agree with, but which really doesn't effect anything in any way whatsoever. You seem incredibly adamant on defending your "right" to double-post, and really noone except for you cares for that. That leads to people making comments like the above one, with an undertone of "Dude, why are you making such a big deal out of this? Just don't doublepost, what is the point you want to make?" And if you have some deep desire to "fight the power", there are lots of better fights to take rather than the fight for the right to double post on TL.
Ahaa, OK, I see, I did not see it as a joke, I thought that was meant serious that I should play Mafia (additionally a game created by a studio from my country).
"If you start a huge discussion on whether or not you should be allowed to double post" - OMG! I did not start any huge discussion so that I can double post. I made only one post, one and half months after I have been banned as I saw at that time a discussion of "why is Diabolique double posting" and I explained it here, that I had no idea that this is not allowed and even when I know it now, I do not see the reason behind it.
Usually, I am using the common sense when I write something and this banning for double post rule is often against that commons sense.
So I did not start any huge discussion so that I could double post. I do not want to double post. I actually do not want to care. I want just to react to some other people in some discussions and am surprised, this might be against the rules.
I do not want to double post OMG, the only thing I did was to explain, why I did it (= I had no idea that is against some rules) PLUS, I was interested what is behind this rule. As whenever I see some rule against the common sense, then I know it is a wrong rule. So I wanted to know, what is behind it so that I could somehow internally understand and accept it.
The fact, it became a huge discussion does not mean that I want to have my right to double post, It means, more people see this rule as some bullshit that exists here from some historical reasons and should not be here.
I can imagine a rule would make sense, saying that double posting will be banned IF YOU ARE NOT REACTING TO SOME OTHER PEOPLE'S POSTS.
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On February 05 2016 01:28 Diabolique wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 22:54 Simberto wrote:On February 04 2016 21:28 Diabolique wrote:On February 04 2016 20:43 Acrofales wrote:On February 04 2016 19:57 OtherWorld wrote:
I mean tbh the mods are very lenient with double posting so it's not that much of an issue. The only case when double posting is annoying is when (1) the thread is moving slowly BUT not too slow and (2) your two posts are less than ~20 hours apart.
Case study 1 : In a "Other Games" thread (like, I dunno, The Witcher 3 thread), you were the last to post, one month ago. Now, you've seen an article about the new expansion, and want to post it in the The Witcher 3 thread. Here, you clearly won't edit your old post, because it wouldn't bump the thread and people subscribed to it wouldn't see that you added something : it would be useless to edit it. Thus you'll double post.
Case study 2 : In a "General" thread (like, I dunno, the US Politics thread), you were the last to post, answering a quote from the last page, 30 minutes ago. Now, as you're clearly an expert on politics, you want to answer another post made before yours. Here, your last post is only 30 minutes old, and if no one posted in the last 30 minutes the thread is reasonably slow. Thus here it is better to edit your last post to add in the post you wanted to make, as few people subscribed to the thread will have seen your last post in 30 minutes. What you can do too is write your new post, copy it, F5 the thread, and if there's a new post by someone else, post it as a new post.
However triple and more posting should be instawarning the first time and instaban the second time. I don't get why it's not the case. Your second example is a great example of how silly the rule is. This is still somewhat okay on a desktop, where selecting and copy pasting is quick and easy. But for ppl posting mainly from mobile phones, it is hard enough to type; let alone copy paste quotes into the correct place for editing a post. If it's the same topic, following this rule makes some sense, but if you're replying to, for instance, someone talking about Trump's polling in South Carolina, and the water situation in Flint, then having that be in the same, edited, post makes the thread (far) less legible than the occasional double posting. Luckily, in practice, both posters and mods are fairly sensible when it comes to double posting. Edit: @diabolic if you really want to doublepost, though, go join a mafia game. And posting this edit as a new post is the kind of double posting that is discouraged. Same topic and low additional information OK, I do not want to become rude again ... but what is this nonsense? You are reasonably explaining, why the second example does not make any sense, why it does not make sense to put answers into one post when they are related to completely different ideas. And then, you ask me, if I really want to doublepost, I should join some Mafia game? What is this bullshit? Why should I want to doublepost???? Why should I join some game, I do not want to join? You seem to be missing some social clues here, probably due to a problem with english as a non-native language. What you replied to is a half-joke (Not really funny, but also obviously not serious) If you start a huge discussion on whether or not you should be allowed to double post, and other people think you are making a giant heap out of nothing, they will reply something along the lines of "If you really want to double-post, you should do xyz", with the point being that there is not reason to be that interested in double-posts, as they really don't serve any purpose, and you can achieve the exact same conversation without one with only a miniscule additional effort. The social etiquette of tTL is "don't double post", so unless there is a major reason to contest this, the reasonable solution is to simply comply with a rule that you may not agree with, but which really doesn't effect anything in any way whatsoever. You seem incredibly adamant on defending your "right" to double-post, and really noone except for you cares for that. That leads to people making comments like the above one, with an undertone of "Dude, why are you making such a big deal out of this? Just don't doublepost, what is the point you want to make?" And if you have some deep desire to "fight the power", there are lots of better fights to take rather than the fight for the right to double post on TL. Ahaa, OK, I see, I did not see it as a joke, I thought that was meant serious that I should play Mafia (additionally a game created by a studio from my country). "If you start a huge discussion on whether or not you should be allowed to double post" - OMG! I did not start any huge discussion so that I can double post. I made only one post, one and half months after I have been banned as I saw at that time a discussion of "why is Diabolique double posting" and I explained it here, that I had no idea that this is not allowed and even when I know it now, I do not see the reason behind it. Usually, I am using the common sense when I write something and this banning for double post rule is often against that commons sense. So I did not start any huge discussion so that I could double post. I do not want to double post. I actually do not want to care. I want just to react to some other people in some discussions and am surprised, this might be against the rules. I do not want to double post OMG, the only thing I did was to explain, why I did it (= I had no idea that is against some rules) PLUS, I was interested what is behind this rule. As whenever I see some rule against the common sense, then I know it is a wrong rule. So I wanted to know, what is behind it so that I could somehow internally understand and accept it. The fact, it became a huge discussion does not mean that I want to have my right to double post, It means, more people see this rule as some bullshit that exists here from some historical reasons and should not be here. I can imagine a rule would make sense, saying that double posting will be banned IF YOU ARE NOT REACTING TO SOME OTHER PEOPLE'S POSTS. you mean the video game right? Mafia the "card game" has been aeound much longer than that i think
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I meant mafia the social game that you can play in the TL Mafia subforum. It has nothing to do with the videogame, and the cards have been replaced by random.org 
Anyway, it was obviously not a very serious suggestion...
It is, incidentally, also a great post count (TL E-Peen) booster, as is LR'ing. The two activities on TL that allow you to doublepost with high impunity. Coincidence? I think not.
PS. This post was written from my phone because work firewall blocks TL, a perfectly acceptable reason for phone access to TL that hadn't been mentioned yet
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On February 05 2016 01:32 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2016 01:28 Diabolique wrote:On February 04 2016 22:54 Simberto wrote:On February 04 2016 21:28 Diabolique wrote:On February 04 2016 20:43 Acrofales wrote:On February 04 2016 19:57 OtherWorld wrote:
I mean tbh the mods are very lenient with double posting so it's not that much of an issue. The only case when double posting is annoying is when (1) the thread is moving slowly BUT not too slow and (2) your two posts are less than ~20 hours apart.
Case study 1 : In a "Other Games" thread (like, I dunno, The Witcher 3 thread), you were the last to post, one month ago. Now, you've seen an article about the new expansion, and want to post it in the The Witcher 3 thread. Here, you clearly won't edit your old post, because it wouldn't bump the thread and people subscribed to it wouldn't see that you added something : it would be useless to edit it. Thus you'll double post.
Case study 2 : In a "General" thread (like, I dunno, the US Politics thread), you were the last to post, answering a quote from the last page, 30 minutes ago. Now, as you're clearly an expert on politics, you want to answer another post made before yours. Here, your last post is only 30 minutes old, and if no one posted in the last 30 minutes the thread is reasonably slow. Thus here it is better to edit your last post to add in the post you wanted to make, as few people subscribed to the thread will have seen your last post in 30 minutes. What you can do too is write your new post, copy it, F5 the thread, and if there's a new post by someone else, post it as a new post.
However triple and more posting should be instawarning the first time and instaban the second time. I don't get why it's not the case. Your second example is a great example of how silly the rule is. This is still somewhat okay on a desktop, where selecting and copy pasting is quick and easy. But for ppl posting mainly from mobile phones, it is hard enough to type; let alone copy paste quotes into the correct place for editing a post. If it's the same topic, following this rule makes some sense, but if you're replying to, for instance, someone talking about Trump's polling in South Carolina, and the water situation in Flint, then having that be in the same, edited, post makes the thread (far) less legible than the occasional double posting. Luckily, in practice, both posters and mods are fairly sensible when it comes to double posting. Edit: @diabolic if you really want to doublepost, though, go join a mafia game. And posting this edit as a new post is the kind of double posting that is discouraged. Same topic and low additional information OK, I do not want to become rude again ... but what is this nonsense? You are reasonably explaining, why the second example does not make any sense, why it does not make sense to put answers into one post when they are related to completely different ideas. And then, you ask me, if I really want to doublepost, I should join some Mafia game? What is this bullshit? Why should I want to doublepost???? Why should I join some game, I do not want to join? You seem to be missing some social clues here, probably due to a problem with english as a non-native language. What you replied to is a half-joke (Not really funny, but also obviously not serious) If you start a huge discussion on whether or not you should be allowed to double post, and other people think you are making a giant heap out of nothing, they will reply something along the lines of "If you really want to double-post, you should do xyz", with the point being that there is not reason to be that interested in double-posts, as they really don't serve any purpose, and you can achieve the exact same conversation without one with only a miniscule additional effort. The social etiquette of tTL is "don't double post", so unless there is a major reason to contest this, the reasonable solution is to simply comply with a rule that you may not agree with, but which really doesn't effect anything in any way whatsoever. You seem incredibly adamant on defending your "right" to double-post, and really noone except for you cares for that. That leads to people making comments like the above one, with an undertone of "Dude, why are you making such a big deal out of this? Just don't doublepost, what is the point you want to make?" And if you have some deep desire to "fight the power", there are lots of better fights to take rather than the fight for the right to double post on TL. Ahaa, OK, I see, I did not see it as a joke, I thought that was meant serious that I should play Mafia (additionally a game created by a studio from my country). "If you start a huge discussion on whether or not you should be allowed to double post" - OMG! I did not start any huge discussion so that I can double post. I made only one post, one and half months after I have been banned as I saw at that time a discussion of "why is Diabolique double posting" and I explained it here, that I had no idea that this is not allowed and even when I know it now, I do not see the reason behind it. Usually, I am using the common sense when I write something and this banning for double post rule is often against that commons sense. So I did not start any huge discussion so that I could double post. I do not want to double post. I actually do not want to care. I want just to react to some other people in some discussions and am surprised, this might be against the rules. I do not want to double post OMG, the only thing I did was to explain, why I did it (= I had no idea that is against some rules) PLUS, I was interested what is behind this rule. As whenever I see some rule against the common sense, then I know it is a wrong rule. So I wanted to know, what is behind it so that I could somehow internally understand and accept it. The fact, it became a huge discussion does not mean that I want to have my right to double post, It means, more people see this rule as some bullshit that exists here from some historical reasons and should not be here. I can imagine a rule would make sense, saying that double posting will be banned IF YOU ARE NOT REACTING TO SOME OTHER PEOPLE'S POSTS. you mean the video game right? Mafia the "card game" has been aeound much longer than that i think
No idea what they meant :-)
But I do not play the Mafia PC game type of games and do not know the card game ...
On February 05 2016 02:16 Acrofales wrote:I meant mafia the social game that you can play in the TL Mafia subforum. It has nothing to do with the videogame, and the cards have been replaced by random.org Anyway, it was obviously not a very serious suggestion...
Aaaaah, OK :-) so that is even not the PC game. And I was just thinking, why are you sending me to play that stupid computer game :-) Do I seem like somebody, who is playing this kind of computer games? :-)
And sorry, I do not know the Mafia TL game, I actually do not know TL at all, I am here only for the SC2 forums ...
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Now you see the violence inherent in the system.
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On February 05 2016 03:24 Skynx wrote:
Diabolique=a_needle_jog?
In my honest opinion, they're different people. (Not arguing, just my opinion!)
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On February 05 2016 03:24 Skynx wrote:
Diabolique=a_needle_jog?
I would honestly find that really surprising. What even is the reason for such random alt rumors? Who could have any interest to spread those, besides actual alts trying to divert attention?
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On February 05 2016 04:45 opisska wrote:I would honestly find that really surprising. What even is the reason for such random alt rumors? Who could have any interest to spread those, besides actual alts trying to divert attention?
You're fucked, Skynx. Detective opisska is on the case.
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On February 05 2016 05:11 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2016 04:45 opisska wrote:On February 05 2016 03:24 Skynx wrote:
Diabolique=a_needle_jog? I would honestly find that really surprising. What even is the reason for such random alt rumors? Who could have any interest to spread those, besides actual alts trying to divert attention? You're fucked, Skynx. Detective opisska is on the case.
I imagine opisska less as a detective and more as a Perry Mason-like figure, who goes around defending those accused by the D.A's office (i.e mods). Skynx is still fucked though, and will be implicated to somehow establish a_needle_jog's innocence or something.
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On February 05 2016 03:24 Skynx wrote:
Diabolique=a_needle_jog?
what is a needle jog? Again some English humor like Mafia?
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On February 05 2016 05:49 Diabolique wrote:what is a needle jog? Again some English humor like Mafia?
It's an anagram for Lee Jae-Dong. Also not so incidentally the name of a TL poster who prefaces every sentence with an "IMO" variant.
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On February 05 2016 05:59 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2016 05:49 Diabolique wrote:On February 05 2016 03:24 Skynx wrote:
Diabolique=a_needle_jog? what is a needle jog? Again some English humor like Mafia? It's an anagram for Lee Jae-Dong. Also not so incidentally the name of a TL poster who prefaces every sentence with an "IMO" variant.
Aaah, OK, I see ... I remember, the guys were discussing him here in the moment, when I was banned. Just before they started to discuss me.
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On February 05 2016 05:35 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2016 05:11 OtherWorld wrote:On February 05 2016 04:45 opisska wrote:On February 05 2016 03:24 Skynx wrote:
Diabolique=a_needle_jog? I would honestly find that really surprising. What even is the reason for such random alt rumors? Who could have any interest to spread those, besides actual alts trying to divert attention? You're fucked, Skynx. Detective opisska is on the case. I imagine opisska less as a detective and more as a Perry Mason-like figure, who goes around defending those accused by the D.A's office (i.e mods). Skynx is still fucked though, and will be implicated to somehow establish a_needle_jog's innocence or something.
I imagine "detective opisska" more like this:
![[image loading]](http://img12.deviantart.net/75b8/i/2010/274/7/b/detective_monkey_by_louisesaunders-d2zufnw.jpg)
But I understand that that's not an easily gotten reference 
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Where dat snitch at?37118 Posts
Is his right arm underneath his right leg? And if so, why?
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On February 05 2016 06:05 Seeker wrote:
Is his right arm underneath his right leg? And if so, why?
That is really a bad question, but I asked myself exactly the same one :-)
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On February 05 2016 06:05 Seeker wrote:
Is his right arm underneath his right leg? And if so, why?
Well, you got da swag or you don't.
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All i get is swedish texts and birds when I type oppiska detective in google.
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On February 05 2016 07:09 Skynx wrote:
All i get is swedish texts and birds when I type oppiska detective in google.
The results are relevant though, because most of the bird pictures are indeed mine
edit: and the only way to get any swedish texts is to misspell my nick, as you did in your post, and in such a case, you deserve your confusion!
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