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Artifex Magnus
Profile Joined August 2012
United States75 Posts
September 25 2012 19:58 GMT
#41
On September 26 2012 04:57 MrMedic wrote:
Koreans will destroy this.

yeah just like they destroyed berkeley right?
thundertoss
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1166 Posts
September 25 2012 19:58 GMT
#42
wow. holy shit prize pool. ^_^ this is super awesome. double awesome because i'll be returning to school. time to coach my school to some prize $$$$$ and also looking forward to dota2 being added.
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Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
September 25 2012 19:59 GMT
#43
Isn't Polt at University ?
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
September 25 2012 20:01 GMT
#44
yes
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Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
September 25 2012 20:01 GMT
#45
This is crazy. Would be nice to see the prize pool a little more even (20,000 first place?) because we're all college kids and the more wealth spread around the better, but nonetheless, this is amazing!
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FinalForm
Profile Joined August 2010
United States450 Posts
September 25 2012 20:03 GMT
#46
This is groundbreaking, congrats to CSL and thank you AZUBU!
SoKHo
Profile Joined April 2011
Korea (South)1081 Posts
September 25 2012 20:03 GMT
#47
wow the prize pool is really huge
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brokenLoL
Profile Joined May 2012
United Kingdom419 Posts
September 25 2012 20:06 GMT
#48
I wish I can be this but between studying for pre-med and working a job, it is quite difficult to play. I barely have enough time to watch games.
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Artifex Magnus
Profile Joined August 2012
United States75 Posts
September 25 2012 20:06 GMT
#49
On September 26 2012 05:01 Alryk wrote:
This is crazy. Would be nice to see the prize pool a little more even (20,000 first place?) because we're all college kids and the more wealth spread around the better, but nonetheless, this is amazing!

Big numbers attract sponsors and viewers.

And keep in mind each team has 6-10 people on their main competitive roster.
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-25 20:11:11
September 25 2012 20:08 GMT
#50
On September 26 2012 04:58 Artifex Magnus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2012 04:57 MrMedic wrote:
Koreans will destroy this.

yeah just like they destroyed berkeley right?


Berkely won iirc. Suppy beat polt.


On September 26 2012 05:06 Artifex Magnus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2012 05:01 Alryk wrote:
This is crazy. Would be nice to see the prize pool a little more even (20,000 first place?) because we're all college kids and the more wealth spread around the better, but nonetheless, this is amazing!

Big numbers attract sponsors and viewers.

And keep in mind each team has 6-10 people on their main competitive roster.



That's why you promote the 182k prize pool, and not numbers. But that 6-10 thing goes both ways, you'd be splitting 500$ 6-10 ways, which isn't really much. Better imo:

1st: 20k
2nd: 15k
3rd: 10k
4th: 5k
5-8: 2.5k
9-16: 1.5k
17-32: ~675$

If I did my math right, it comes out to about the same. And still, 20k would be at least 2k per person for first place, and that's assuming ten players. It's still definitely a large amount, and twice as many people are benefiting in this scenario. We're (hopefully) all college kids, I think more people should be benefiting than less, although obviously I don't decide this, and I do agree that a bigger first prize can certainly grab more viewers. But still, it's a very high end prize pool for an organization of college kids But I can definitely see why they'd do it.
Team Liquid, IM, ViOlet!
Artifex Magnus
Profile Joined August 2012
United States75 Posts
September 25 2012 20:16 GMT
#51
On September 26 2012 05:08 Alryk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2012 04:58 Artifex Magnus wrote:
On September 26 2012 04:57 MrMedic wrote:
Koreans will destroy this.

yeah just like they destroyed berkeley right?


Berkely won iirc. Suppy beat polt.


Show nested quote +
On September 26 2012 05:06 Artifex Magnus wrote:
On September 26 2012 05:01 Alryk wrote:
This is crazy. Would be nice to see the prize pool a little more even (20,000 first place?) because we're all college kids and the more wealth spread around the better, but nonetheless, this is amazing!

Big numbers attract sponsors and viewers.

And keep in mind each team has 6-10 people on their main competitive roster.



That's why you promote the 182k prize pool, and not numbers. But that 6-10 thing goes both ways, you'd be splitting 500$ 6-10 ways, which isn't really much. Better imo:

1st: 20k
2nd: 15k
3rd: 10k
4th: 5k
5-8: 2.5k
9-16: 1.5k
17-32: ~675$

If I did my math right, it comes out to about the same. And still, 20k would be at least 2k per person for first place, and that's assuming ten players. It's still definitely a large amount, and twice as many people are benefiting in this scenario. We're (hopefully) all college kids, I think more people should be benefiting than less, although obviously I don't decide this, and I do agree that a bigger first prize can certainly grab more viewers. But still, it's a very high end prize pool for an organization of college kids But I can definitely see why they'd do it.


The first quote was sarcasm.. I know berkeley won, and Suppy only had two win two matches to do so. Korean universities are nothing to be feared. Respected, as much as we respect our North American colleagues, but they are not GSTL contenders we're talking about.

As far as the second part, I think the big first prize is the big number to look at. You want to hype the finals with, 'competing for 40,000' which is essentially a GSL Code S first place finish. Big numbers big numbers big numbers.
laLAlA[uC]
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada963 Posts
September 25 2012 20:18 GMT
#52
On September 26 2012 04:59 Serimek wrote:
Isn't Polt at University ?


And he lost to Berkley
I'm an old man now
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
September 25 2012 20:19 GMT
#53
Best of luck all, sick that csl is getting this big.
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bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
September 25 2012 20:25 GMT
#54
Stay in school kids.
TestSubject893
Profile Joined September 2009
United States774 Posts
September 25 2012 20:26 GMT
#55
Congrats to CSL! Its so awesome to see the league growing so huge. It seems like season 2 was yesterday.... Go Bucks!
Imbu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States903 Posts
September 25 2012 20:28 GMT
#56
Damn hella sick news for the CSL. Time to get Davis on the map again :D
@DreamingBird
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
September 25 2012 20:36 GMT
#57
On September 26 2012 05:16 Artifex Magnus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2012 05:08 Alryk wrote:
On September 26 2012 04:58 Artifex Magnus wrote:
On September 26 2012 04:57 MrMedic wrote:
Koreans will destroy this.

yeah just like they destroyed berkeley right?


Berkely won iirc. Suppy beat polt.


On September 26 2012 05:06 Artifex Magnus wrote:
On September 26 2012 05:01 Alryk wrote:
This is crazy. Would be nice to see the prize pool a little more even (20,000 first place?) because we're all college kids and the more wealth spread around the better, but nonetheless, this is amazing!

Big numbers attract sponsors and viewers.

And keep in mind each team has 6-10 people on their main competitive roster.



That's why you promote the 182k prize pool, and not numbers. But that 6-10 thing goes both ways, you'd be splitting 500$ 6-10 ways, which isn't really much. Better imo:

1st: 20k
2nd: 15k
3rd: 10k
4th: 5k
5-8: 2.5k
9-16: 1.5k
17-32: ~675$

If I did my math right, it comes out to about the same. And still, 20k would be at least 2k per person for first place, and that's assuming ten players. It's still definitely a large amount, and twice as many people are benefiting in this scenario. We're (hopefully) all college kids, I think more people should be benefiting than less, although obviously I don't decide this, and I do agree that a bigger first prize can certainly grab more viewers. But still, it's a very high end prize pool for an organization of college kids But I can definitely see why they'd do it.


The first quote was sarcasm.. I know berkeley won, and Suppy only had two win two matches to do so. Korean universities are nothing to be feared. Respected, as much as we respect our North American colleagues, but they are not GSTL contenders we're talking about.

As far as the second part, I think the big first prize is the big number to look at. You want to hype the finals with, 'competing for 40,000' which is essentially a GSL Code S first place finish. Big numbers big numbers big numbers.

Oh haha my bad. I completely missed your sarcasm xD.

Yeah. From a marketing standpoint I completely understand why they have the prize pool set up how they do. It's just disappointing from a poor college kid point of view. Although there are still scholarships

Yeah the Korean universities aren't necessarily ahead. The interesting thing is all the best Korean players actually quit school. I'm more worried about the universities with European players who aren't out yet (thank god Stephano is full time right now haha)

How are the 5-16 places being found? If the top eu Asia and two na teams go to the live finals, where do the other places get found? It would be confusing (although not impossible, but a scheduling nightmare) to seed all the eu Asia and na teams into playoffs but only take the top from each. In which case, does EACH region get a 5-8 prize pool? While the 1-4 is shared? In that case, the prize pool makes more sense.

And I don't want to sound like I'm criticizing csl about the prizes, what they've done is absolutely insane and huge for growing a huge college scene.
Team Liquid, IM, ViOlet!
Artifex Magnus
Profile Joined August 2012
United States75 Posts
September 25 2012 20:37 GMT
#58
On September 26 2012 05:36 Alryk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2012 05:16 Artifex Magnus wrote:
On September 26 2012 05:08 Alryk wrote:
On September 26 2012 04:58 Artifex Magnus wrote:
On September 26 2012 04:57 MrMedic wrote:
Koreans will destroy this.

yeah just like they destroyed berkeley right?


Berkely won iirc. Suppy beat polt.


On September 26 2012 05:06 Artifex Magnus wrote:
On September 26 2012 05:01 Alryk wrote:
This is crazy. Would be nice to see the prize pool a little more even (20,000 first place?) because we're all college kids and the more wealth spread around the better, but nonetheless, this is amazing!

Big numbers attract sponsors and viewers.

And keep in mind each team has 6-10 people on their main competitive roster.



That's why you promote the 182k prize pool, and not numbers. But that 6-10 thing goes both ways, you'd be splitting 500$ 6-10 ways, which isn't really much. Better imo:

1st: 20k
2nd: 15k
3rd: 10k
4th: 5k
5-8: 2.5k
9-16: 1.5k
17-32: ~675$

If I did my math right, it comes out to about the same. And still, 20k would be at least 2k per person for first place, and that's assuming ten players. It's still definitely a large amount, and twice as many people are benefiting in this scenario. We're (hopefully) all college kids, I think more people should be benefiting than less, although obviously I don't decide this, and I do agree that a bigger first prize can certainly grab more viewers. But still, it's a very high end prize pool for an organization of college kids But I can definitely see why they'd do it.


The first quote was sarcasm.. I know berkeley won, and Suppy only had two win two matches to do so. Korean universities are nothing to be feared. Respected, as much as we respect our North American colleagues, but they are not GSTL contenders we're talking about.

As far as the second part, I think the big first prize is the big number to look at. You want to hype the finals with, 'competing for 40,000' which is essentially a GSL Code S first place finish. Big numbers big numbers big numbers.

Oh haha my bad. I completely missed your sarcasm xD.

Yeah. From a marketing standpoint I completely understand why they have the prize pool set up how they do. It's just disappointing from a poor college kid point of view. Although there are still scholarships

Yeah the Korean universities aren't necessarily ahead. The interesting thing is all the best Korean players actually quit school. I'm more worried about the universities with European players who aren't out yet (thank god Stephano is full time right now haha)

How are the 5-16 places being found? If the top eu Asia and two na teams go to the live finals, where do the other places get found? It would be confusing (although not impossible, but a scheduling nightmare) to seed all the eu Asia and na teams into playoffs but only take the top from each. In which case, does EACH region get a 5-8 prize pool? While the 1-4 is shared? In that case, the prize pool makes more sense.

And I don't want to sound like I'm criticizing csl about the prizes, what they've done is absolutely insane and huge for growing a huge college scene.

As far as places 5-16, I'd imagine they'll hold those playoffs online.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
September 25 2012 20:41 GMT
#59
On September 26 2012 05:36 Alryk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2012 05:16 Artifex Magnus wrote:
On September 26 2012 05:08 Alryk wrote:
On September 26 2012 04:58 Artifex Magnus wrote:
On September 26 2012 04:57 MrMedic wrote:
Koreans will destroy this.

yeah just like they destroyed berkeley right?


Berkely won iirc. Suppy beat polt.


On September 26 2012 05:06 Artifex Magnus wrote:
On September 26 2012 05:01 Alryk wrote:
This is crazy. Would be nice to see the prize pool a little more even (20,000 first place?) because we're all college kids and the more wealth spread around the better, but nonetheless, this is amazing!

Big numbers attract sponsors and viewers.

And keep in mind each team has 6-10 people on their main competitive roster.



That's why you promote the 182k prize pool, and not numbers. But that 6-10 thing goes both ways, you'd be splitting 500$ 6-10 ways, which isn't really much. Better imo:

1st: 20k
2nd: 15k
3rd: 10k
4th: 5k
5-8: 2.5k
9-16: 1.5k
17-32: ~675$

If I did my math right, it comes out to about the same. And still, 20k would be at least 2k per person for first place, and that's assuming ten players. It's still definitely a large amount, and twice as many people are benefiting in this scenario. We're (hopefully) all college kids, I think more people should be benefiting than less, although obviously I don't decide this, and I do agree that a bigger first prize can certainly grab more viewers. But still, it's a very high end prize pool for an organization of college kids But I can definitely see why they'd do it.


The first quote was sarcasm.. I know berkeley won, and Suppy only had two win two matches to do so. Korean universities are nothing to be feared. Respected, as much as we respect our North American colleagues, but they are not GSTL contenders we're talking about.

As far as the second part, I think the big first prize is the big number to look at. You want to hype the finals with, 'competing for 40,000' which is essentially a GSL Code S first place finish. Big numbers big numbers big numbers.

Oh haha my bad. I completely missed your sarcasm xD.

Yeah. From a marketing standpoint I completely understand why they have the prize pool set up how they do. It's just disappointing from a poor college kid point of view. Although there are still scholarships

Yeah the Korean universities aren't necessarily ahead. The interesting thing is all the best Korean players actually quit school. I'm more worried about the universities with European players who aren't out yet (thank god Stephano is full time right now haha)

How are the 5-16 places being found? If the top eu Asia and two na teams go to the live finals, where do the other places get found? It would be confusing (although not impossible, but a scheduling nightmare) to seed all the eu Asia and na teams into playoffs but only take the top from each. In which case, does EACH region get a 5-8 prize pool? While the 1-4 is shared? In that case, the prize pool makes more sense.

And I don't want to sound like I'm criticizing csl about the prizes, what they've done is absolutely insane and huge for growing a huge college scene.


Group stage --> single elim bracket playoffs.

5-16 teams are:

2nd - 4th from EU
2nd - 4th from Asia
3rd - 8th from NA
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Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-25 20:42:45
September 25 2012 20:41 GMT
#60
Well yeah, but I mean: is there three different sets of playoffs, one for each region? Otherwise, imagine that all of the European teams get knocked out in the ro32. Now the playoffs continue, but you have to hold separate tournaments to find out which of those (say eight) teams is the European "champion"

Same could go for America or Asia, although America would obviously be top two. But that's why I think different playoffs for each region make more sense, which would also bring the prize pool up to 100k plus or so. I 99k if you have three sets of "5-16" players and more if there are regional prizes for 3 + 4 place.

Edit:tyvm xeris!
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