GSL-type prize money for a collegiate league?? o.O

Wow!

I really need to look into applying for a job at AZUBU, after all it's an e-company from Berlin.

Alryk

United States2718 Posts

September 25 2012 20:53 GMT

#62

On September 26 2012 05:41 Xeris wrote:

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On September 26 2012 05:36 Alryk wrote:

On September 26 2012 05:16 Artifex Magnus wrote:

On September 26 2012 05:08 Alryk wrote:

On September 26 2012 04:58 Artifex Magnus wrote:

On September 26 2012 04:57 MrMedic wrote:
Koreans will destroy this.

yeah just like they destroyed berkeley right?

Berkely won iirc. Suppy beat polt.

On September 26 2012 05:06 Artifex Magnus wrote:

On September 26 2012 05:01 Alryk wrote:
This is crazy. Would be nice to see the prize pool a little more even (20,000 first place?) because we're all college kids and the more wealth spread around the better, but nonetheless, this is amazing!

Big numbers attract sponsors and viewers.

And keep in mind each team has 6-10 people on their main competitive roster.

That's why you promote the 182k prize pool, and not numbers. But that 6-10 thing goes both ways, you'd be splitting 500$ 6-10 ways, which isn't really much. Better imo:

1st: 20k
2nd: 15k
3rd: 10k
4th: 5k
5-8: 2.5k
9-16: 1.5k
17-32: ~675$

If I did my math right, it comes out to about the same. And still, 20k would be at least 2k per person for first place, and that's assuming ten players. It's still definitely a large amount, and twice as many people are benefiting in this scenario. We're (hopefully) all college kids, I think more people should be benefiting than less, although obviously I don't decide this, and I do agree that a bigger first prize can certainly grab more viewers. But still, it's a very high end prize pool for an organization of college kids

But I can definitely see why they'd do it.

The first quote was sarcasm.. I know berkeley won, and Suppy only had two win two matches to do so. Korean universities are nothing to be feared. Respected, as much as we respect our North American colleagues, but they are not GSTL contenders we're talking about.

As far as the second part, I think the big first prize is the big number to look at. You want to hype the finals with, 'competing for 40,000' which is essentially a GSL Code S first place finish. Big numbers big numbers big numbers.

Oh haha my bad. I completely missed your sarcasm xD.

Yeah. From a marketing standpoint I completely understand why they have the prize pool set up how they do. It's just disappointing from a poor college kid point of view. Although there are still scholarships

Yeah the Korean universities aren't necessarily ahead. The interesting thing is all the best Korean players actually quit school. I'm more worried about the universities with European players who aren't out yet (thank god Stephano is full time right now haha)

How are the 5-16 places being found? If the top eu Asia and two na teams go to the live finals, where do the other places get found? It would be confusing (although not impossible, but a scheduling nightmare) to seed all the eu Asia and na teams into playoffs but only take the top from each. In which case, does EACH region get a 5-8 prize pool? While the 1-4 is shared? In that case, the prize pool makes more sense.

And I don't want to sound like I'm criticizing csl about the prizes, what they've done is absolutely insane and huge for growing a huge college scene.

Group stage --> single elim bracket playoffs.

5-16 teams are:

2nd - 4th from EU
2nd - 4th from Asia
3rd - 8th from NA

Does this mean that 5-8 will be like 2nd from EU and Asia, and 3/4 from NA?

Is it a single bracket for all regions? If so, what happens if, for example, the 4 teams from Europe are all eliminated in the Ro16? I know it's unlikely, but in that case, will there be like a 4 team group stage to determine which of them are the top 2? (Or in the case of the champion not being in the playoffs, the top 3 teams or something). I hope this makes sense

Edit: From rereading, it seems like y'all are implying 3 separate playoff brackets? Which seems like it would make sense.

Prize pool as listed comes out to 81k I think, does that mean the other 101k is going to LoL and scholarships? (If so, that's cool!)

ROOTSasquatch

United States234 Posts

September 25 2012 20:54 GMT

#63

So if everyone at the coL house goes to community college can we play?

Frins

Chile11 Posts

September 25 2012 20:57 GMT

#64

and south america...

-FoX

United States479 Posts

September 25 2012 20:58 GMT

#65

WHOO!!! GO CSL! Can't wait for this season. Go UC Berkeley!

jmbthirteen

United States10734 Posts

September 25 2012 21:01 GMT

#66

awesome awesome awesome stuff. Amazing prize pool for a well deserving tournament. CSL really grows the scene and brings new blood into the scene.

loazis

Netherlands381 Posts

September 25 2012 21:03 GMT

#67

Nice post and great layout!

Good luck everyone involved!

Capulet

Canada686 Posts

September 25 2012 21:04 GMT

#68

Not sure how many Korean pros go to University, but quite a few North American pros are students. Judging by the exhibition matches, this will not be a walk over for the koreans. Can't wait to see how this plays how, and definitely can't wait to see how much this can grow. Calling it now: NCAA level :D

carloselcoco

United States2302 Posts

September 25 2012 21:07 GMT

#69

SWEEET!!!! I get to cast Asians and Europeans too now :D

Cornix

United States220 Posts

September 25 2012 21:08 GMT

#70

On September 26 2012 05:54 ASasquatch wrote:
So if everyone at the coL house goes to community college can we play?

Send goswser back to miami first, we could use him again this year!

carloselcoco

United States2302 Posts

September 25 2012 21:10 GMT

#71

On September 26 2012 05:57 Frins wrote:
and south america...

Please email admin@cstarleague.com ASAP. I will gladly step in and help if there are any translation issues between Spanish speaking Universities and the CSL. However, it is ideal that your team communicates with the CSL in English.

BearStorm

United States795 Posts

September 25 2012 21:12 GMT

#72

Good anticipation on cheating and tightening up on the possible methods of executing it. My main concern now is the 2v2 map pool. With that much prize money, 2v2 might become a giant imbalanced cheesefest. Hopefully the map pool selection doesn't include some of the notoriously bad maps. Overall I'm pretty pumped though!

Teoita

Italy12246 Posts

September 25 2012 21:16 GMT

#73

Holy fucking shit that's awesome :O

SCM.geauxsu

United States56 Posts

September 25 2012 21:18 GMT

#74

the NA scene is going to benefit so much from this in my opinion, I'm really excited

GoSuChicken

Germany1726 Posts

September 25 2012 21:19 GMT

#75

Where does Azubu get all this money from??? Is it korean based?

CosmicHippo

United States547 Posts

September 25 2012 21:23 GMT

#76

GERWAT JON

Invagination

Canada21 Posts

September 25 2012 21:23 GMT

#77

On September 26 2012 04:18 laLAlA[uC] wrote:
Holy. A few concerns.

I know the Waterloo community was looking forward to having fun in the 2nd Division, is nothing like that being done? Is there going to be an opportunity for lower level players to compete vs other schools or no.

No streaming games live ): Ah well. Going to have to stream replays.

Overall. This is effin crazy @__@
See you in Cali

We are going to be organizing lots of community events that will be geared towards non-competitive gaming.

jmbthirteen

United States10734 Posts

September 25 2012 21:25 GMT

#78

On September 26 2012 06:04 Capulet wrote:
Not sure how many Korean pros go to University, but quite a few North American pros are students. Judging by the exhibition matches, this will not be a walk over for the koreans. Can't wait to see how this plays how, and definitely can't wait to see how much this can grow. Calling it now: NCAA level :D

keep the NCAA outta here lol.