i like how incontrol is deamed 'and he is ALSO high masters in korea!!!!'

but destiny is 'only masters in korea'

you have no idea how the ladder system works so its more than possible destiny is higher than incontrol in korea. i dont even like destiny, my point is merely even in a thread where you 'researched' the facts about him, you dropped in some bias here and there.

Lysanias

Netherlands8351 Posts

August 22 2011 12:14 GMT

#162

On August 22 2011 20:33 lachy89 wrote:

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That's exactly what I thought when I read the thread.

I know that Destiny has a rather large fan base due to his interesting style etc... But he does not have all that many achievements.

Also what exactly are you trying to get out of a thread like this, everyone to go OMG DESTINY AMAZING RANK HIM HIGH AND GET HIM ON A TEAM. I am a little confused, shouldn't this be in his fan thread?

I agree, i do not see why he needs a Thread ?
What is your goal with this ?

peidongyang

Canada2084 Posts

August 22 2011 12:24 GMT

#163

Watch the haterz swallow their words when destiny wins something big. Hopefully he starts going crazy on kr ladder 8 hours a day like the chinese players did and starts owning everyone one up soon.

STEVEN BRONELL II FIGHTING

(yes, I am a toss player, but he is simply just a fun person to watch, plus he's pretty good to boot)

greggy

United Kingdom1483 Posts

August 22 2011 12:31 GMT

#164

You cannot judge the skill of a player over several BoX. Until destiny places high in a major tournament (MLG, DH, NASL, etc.), he is not a top-tier player.

stilez

Mexico130 Posts

August 22 2011 12:35 GMT

#165

So is any player that's ranked higher than 5/10 by EG worth stealing?

Versioned

United Kingdom73 Posts

August 22 2011 12:39 GMT

#166

I don't consider him overall as a player comparable to Pro's, I watched his stream when he just used to troll people for entertainment, now I just see it as any other mid/lower tier player streaming as he doesn't really express his character anymore

Goshawk.

United Kingdom5338 Posts

August 22 2011 12:47 GMT

#167

On August 22 2011 21:31 greggy wrote:
You cannot judge the skill of a player over several BoX. Until destiny places high in a major tournament (MLG, DH, NASL, etc.), he is not a top-tier player.

Completely agree with this, ofc his showmatches show he has some skill but until he produces proper results when it matters you definitely can't rate his skill level that highly.

Legio

Sweden235 Posts

August 22 2011 12:49 GMT

#168

Remember that EGAlex is the guy with the checkbook. He cares about if he can take Destiny to Intel and say "heres our new guy, can you give us some money so we can send him to Europe?". But Intel isn't going to want to have their logo on a guy that says faggot and nigger on his stream, or a guy that doesn't conform to the team spirit.

A big part of Destinys appeal is also that he is so anti establishment.. and that means its going to be very hard to sell him to a sponsor.

The funny thing is that IdrA and Destiny are actually similar in many ways. Listen to the SOTG episode where IdrA and Destiny was on, and it was basically those two agreeing, against the opinions of the other hosts. IdrA doesnt give a fuck about sponsors or teams or convention and respect.. he just want to beat people. IdrA however understands that he needs the support of the team do get those opportunities, so he does the bare minimum he needs to be marketable. He understands that the skill that he possesses is not enough, but that he has to sacrifice a little bit of his independence to do what he loves.

Remember, IdrA went o his own when he was 18 to sleep on a cold floor in Korea, just so he could play the game he loved, 12 hours a day. Now money has become a factor, but guys like IdrA and Destiny are actually the people who would be doing this without the Intels and without the 10k stream viewers..

Zorkmid

4410 Posts

August 22 2011 13:00 GMT

#169

Destiny doesn't need threads like this, he can handle his shit.

He was on a major team but left because he didn't wish to censor himself.

He's a good enough player to be on any foreigner team.

KinosJourney2

Sweden1811 Posts

August 22 2011 13:06 GMT

#170

Winning a series against Bomber 2-0 in drawn out macro games should get him a spot on a pro team, theres tons of non-deserving no-namers on proteams anyways so why not pick up Destiny who have shown signs of potential.

Wawarox

161 Posts

August 22 2011 13:12 GMT

#171

On August 22 2011 21:35 stilez wrote:
So is any player that's ranked higher than 5/10 by EG worth stealing?

you're not worth stealing, don't be jealous and turn it into EG hate, thx.

EdSlyB

Portugal1621 Posts

August 22 2011 13:12 GMT

#172

On August 22 2011 13:22 TemujinGK wrote:
He is only ranked Masters in Korea

'Only'? Well...In my humble opinion I don't think that's a bad thing.

On August 22 2011 22:00 Zorkmid wrote:
Destiny doesn't need threads like this, he can handle his shit.

I also share the same opinion because who are we to evaluate someone's value??

snapski

Croatia70 Posts

August 22 2011 13:16 GMT

#173

One of the most innovate Zerg players, he plays Infestors/lings style like a Boss!
Which are still some players on "regular" baneling/muta style!
I would like to see him in some big ass Teams, coz he deserve one.

ishboh

United States954 Posts

August 22 2011 13:18 GMT

#174

i must say, destiny has gotten better over the last couple of months, but he's still not particularly good...once i see a single result in a big tournament by him, i might consider him better than a B-class player.

volumac

United Kingdom6 Posts

August 22 2011 13:19 GMT

#175

He has always said since he left CoL that he didn't want to be associated with any teams. He believes he's fine on his own. As for skill, he's got enough for any team. His style could be one dimensional, but it's not his fault he's that famous. People pick up on every little thing he does. If he was any random player coming into the scene without any voice, he'd be the big guy (judging by the positive results). This whole discussion is pointless, he knows his flaws and he can change them. Does he need a thread discussing his opportunities? Or when he looks at this seeing something that offends him? (RATING HIM ON A SCALE OF 1/10, ARE YOU SERIOUS).

Nevertheless. People arguing that Destiny doesn't want to join a team because he doesn't want to change his attitude are mongols. If you've followed him long enough, or even looked at his name. ROOTDestiny. When was he ever in the news for bad behavior, or BM in a team? CoL just made it look that way.

turdburgler

England6749 Posts

August 22 2011 13:22 GMT

#176

On August 22 2011 22:16 snapski wrote:
One of the most innovate Zerg players, he plays Infestors/lings style like a Boss!
Which are still some players on "regular" baneling/muta style!
I would like to see him in some big ass Teams, coz he deserve one.

in what way he the 'most innovative'

he has invented 1 style ever. he isnt the bleeding each of new styles every month, he just has his one, that he plays. which puts him on par with every other player ever.

Circos

United Kingdom115 Posts

August 22 2011 13:25 GMT

#177

Why the hell would he not deserve to be on a top team? He puts just as much work in as any other pro, and I'm not one for fan-boy-ism but this seems ridiculous to deny that he has potential.

I think top teams would be stupid not to try and pick him up, if not just for the marketing value he brings, but you're going to have thousands of people waiting on his next big win. The fact is, he's an interesting character, he plays entertaining games and he's far, far more likable than a lot of top players.

Hypemeup

Sweden2783 Posts

August 22 2011 13:30 GMT

#178

On August 22 2011 19:53 tofubeans wrote:

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Yea, because Idra has such a winning personality right? :x

IdrA wins/Has won major tournaments, and produces good results in pretty much any tournament he enters, that overshadows his manners. Where as Destiny takes series of good players but has not really had a good tournament showing(yet?).

CDR

Poland84 Posts

August 22 2011 13:30 GMT

#179

Overall rank - 2. I don't think he can achieve anything, so I can't see why any professional team would like to hire him. If I have to choose any team, I'd go with sixjax.
His infestor play is funny, but that's all. Beating Bomber or Puzzle doesn't mean anything if you can't get any good performance in a tournament. Summing up, he's way overrated and I don't see any reason for him to be in top team besides marketing.

FXOpen

Australia1844 Posts

August 22 2011 13:30 GMT

#180

Putting someone under a microscope like this and then asking for a person to judge them in private, then publically announcing it, is kinda silly.

Destiny is an awesome person, but I don't agree with such a thread one bit....