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turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
August 22 2011 11:59 GMT
#161
i like how incontrol is deamed 'and he is ALSO high masters in korea!!!!'

but destiny is 'only masters in korea'

you have no idea how the ladder system works so its more than possible destiny is higher than incontrol in korea. i dont even like destiny, my point is merely even in a thread where you 'researched' the facts about him, you dropped in some bias here and there.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
August 22 2011 12:14 GMT
#162
On August 22 2011 20:33 lachy89 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 20:07 Bagi wrote:
I think you're giving him too much attention.

Is he really that important of a personality that threads like this are warranted? Why not discuss it in his fanclub?


That's exactly what I thought when I read the thread.

I know that Destiny has a rather large fan base due to his interesting style etc... But he does not have all that many achievements.

Also what exactly are you trying to get out of a thread like this, everyone to go OMG DESTINY AMAZING RANK HIM HIGH AND GET HIM ON A TEAM. I am a little confused, shouldn't this be in his fan thread?



I agree, i do not see why he needs a Thread ?
What is your goal with this ?
peidongyang
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada2084 Posts
August 22 2011 12:24 GMT
#163
Watch the haterz swallow their words when destiny wins something big. Hopefully he starts going crazy on kr ladder 8 hours a day like the chinese players did and starts owning everyone one up soon.

STEVEN BRONELL II FIGHTING

(yes, I am a toss player, but he is simply just a fun person to watch, plus he's pretty good to boot)
the throws never bothered me anyway
greggy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom1483 Posts
August 22 2011 12:31 GMT
#164
You cannot judge the skill of a player over several BoX. Until destiny places high in a major tournament (MLG, DH, NASL, etc.), he is not a top-tier player.
stilez
Profile Joined November 2010
Mexico130 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-22 12:35:36
August 22 2011 12:35 GMT
#165
So is any player that's ranked higher than 5/10 by EG worth stealing?
Versioned
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom73 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-22 12:40:20
August 22 2011 12:39 GMT
#166
I don't consider him overall as a player comparable to Pro's, I watched his stream when he just used to troll people for entertainment, now I just see it as any other mid/lower tier player streaming as he doesn't really express his character anymore
There is a theory which states, that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly dissapear and be replaced by something even more inexplicable. There is another theory that this has already happened.
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
August 22 2011 12:47 GMT
#167
On August 22 2011 21:31 greggy wrote:
You cannot judge the skill of a player over several BoX. Until destiny places high in a major tournament (MLG, DH, NASL, etc.), he is not a top-tier player.


Completely agree with this, ofc his showmatches show he has some skill but until he produces proper results when it matters you definitely can't rate his skill level that highly.
Legio
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden235 Posts
August 22 2011 12:49 GMT
#168
Remember that EGAlex is the guy with the checkbook. He cares about if he can take Destiny to Intel and say "heres our new guy, can you give us some money so we can send him to Europe?". But Intel isn't going to want to have their logo on a guy that says faggot and nigger on his stream, or a guy that doesn't conform to the team spirit.

A big part of Destinys appeal is also that he is so anti establishment.. and that means its going to be very hard to sell him to a sponsor.

The funny thing is that IdrA and Destiny are actually similar in many ways. Listen to the SOTG episode where IdrA and Destiny was on, and it was basically those two agreeing, against the opinions of the other hosts. IdrA doesnt give a fuck about sponsors or teams or convention and respect.. he just want to beat people. IdrA however understands that he needs the support of the team do get those opportunities, so he does the bare minimum he needs to be marketable. He understands that the skill that he possesses is not enough, but that he has to sacrifice a little bit of his independence to do what he loves.

Remember, IdrA went o his own when he was 18 to sleep on a cold floor in Korea, just so he could play the game he loved, 12 hours a day. Now money has become a factor, but guys like IdrA and Destiny are actually the people who would be doing this without the Intels and without the 10k stream viewers..
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
August 22 2011 13:00 GMT
#169
Destiny doesn't need threads like this, he can handle his shit.

He was on a major team but left because he didn't wish to censor himself.

He's a good enough player to be on any foreigner team.
KinosJourney2
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden1811 Posts
August 22 2011 13:06 GMT
#170
Winning a series against Bomber 2-0 in drawn out macro games should get him a spot on a pro team, theres tons of non-deserving no-namers on proteams anyways so why not pick up Destiny who have shown signs of potential.
ocho wrote: EDIT: NEVERMIND, THIS THING HAS APM TECHNOLOGY OMG
Wawarox
Profile Joined July 2011
161 Posts
August 22 2011 13:12 GMT
#171
On August 22 2011 21:35 stilez wrote:
So is any player that's ranked higher than 5/10 by EG worth stealing?


you're not worth stealing, don't be jealous and turn it into EG hate, thx.
EdSlyB
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Portugal1621 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-22 13:15:29
August 22 2011 13:12 GMT
#172
On August 22 2011 13:22 TemujinGK wrote:
He is only ranked Masters in Korea


'Only'? Well...In my humble opinion I don't think that's a bad thing.
On August 22 2011 22:00 Zorkmid wrote:
Destiny doesn't need threads like this, he can handle his shit.


I also share the same opinion because who are we to evaluate someone's value??
aka Wardo
snapski
Profile Joined January 2011
Croatia70 Posts
August 22 2011 13:16 GMT
#173
One of the most innovate Zerg players, he plays Infestors/lings style like a Boss!
Which are still some players on "regular" baneling/muta style!
I would like to see him in some big ass Teams, coz he deserve one.
将軍オーディオ
ishboh
Profile Joined October 2010
United States954 Posts
August 22 2011 13:18 GMT
#174
i must say, destiny has gotten better over the last couple of months, but he's still not particularly good...once i see a single result in a big tournament by him, i might consider him better than a B-class player.
volumac
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom6 Posts
August 22 2011 13:19 GMT
#175
He has always said since he left CoL that he didn't want to be associated with any teams. He believes he's fine on his own. As for skill, he's got enough for any team. His style could be one dimensional, but it's not his fault he's that famous. People pick up on every little thing he does. If he was any random player coming into the scene without any voice, he'd be the big guy (judging by the positive results). This whole discussion is pointless, he knows his flaws and he can change them. Does he need a thread discussing his opportunities? Or when he looks at this seeing something that offends him? (RATING HIM ON A SCALE OF 1/10, ARE YOU SERIOUS).


Nevertheless. People arguing that Destiny doesn't want to join a team because he doesn't want to change his attitude are mongols. If you've followed him long enough, or even looked at his name. ROOTDestiny. When was he ever in the news for bad behavior, or BM in a team? CoL just made it look that way.
k
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
August 22 2011 13:22 GMT
#176
On August 22 2011 22:16 snapski wrote:
One of the most innovate Zerg players, he plays Infestors/lings style like a Boss!
Which are still some players on "regular" baneling/muta style!
I would like to see him in some big ass Teams, coz he deserve one.



in what way he the 'most innovative'

he has invented 1 style ever. he isnt the bleeding each of new styles every month, he just has his one, that he plays. which puts him on par with every other player ever.
Circos
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom115 Posts
August 22 2011 13:25 GMT
#177
Why the hell would he not deserve to be on a top team? He puts just as much work in as any other pro, and I'm not one for fan-boy-ism but this seems ridiculous to deny that he has potential.

I think top teams would be stupid not to try and pick him up, if not just for the marketing value he brings, but you're going to have thousands of people waiting on his next big win. The fact is, he's an interesting character, he plays entertaining games and he's far, far more likable than a lot of top players.
I saw the angel within the marble, and I carved until it was free.
Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
August 22 2011 13:30 GMT
#178
On August 22 2011 19:53 tofubeans wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 13:22 TemujinGK wrote:
I agree that his style is innovative, and he should be applauded for developing such a huge fan base and streaming following. However, he currently has no impressive results to speak of in my eyes, really (practice games, show matches, and mid-tier tournaments just don't matter, unfortunately). Also, his image and personality really hold him back from becoming more of a mainstream star.


Yea, because Idra has such a winning personality right? :x


IdrA wins/Has won major tournaments, and produces good results in pretty much any tournament he enters, that overshadows his manners. Where as Destiny takes series of good players but has not really had a good tournament showing(yet?).
CDR
Profile Joined April 2011
Poland84 Posts
August 22 2011 13:30 GMT
#179
Overall rank - 2. I don't think he can achieve anything, so I can't see why any professional team would like to hire him. If I have to choose any team, I'd go with sixjax.
His infestor play is funny, but that's all. Beating Bomber or Puzzle doesn't mean anything if you can't get any good performance in a tournament. Summing up, he's way overrated and I don't see any reason for him to be in top team besides marketing.
FXOpen
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1844 Posts
August 22 2011 13:30 GMT
#180
Putting someone under a microscope like this and then asking for a person to judge them in private, then publically announcing it, is kinda silly.

Destiny is an awesome person, but I don't agree with such a thread one bit....
www.twitter.com/FXOpenESports
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