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atomic55
United States42 Posts
On August 22 2011 14:54 Polskaa wrote: No offence Strifeco Machine Axlav have no point to be on EG Destiny outstages them by a longshot especially Strifeco agreed!!!! but they have a team and have the training environment. Imagine destiny on ...not eg cuz idra and him would never agree, but like RGN, or SlayerS where he has people to train with and let his skill grow. | ||
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atomic55
United States42 Posts
On August 22 2011 15:06 taLbuk wrote: I fail to see what the adds or how it even adheres to the OP. Unless your reading into a seemingly private conversation the OP has posted. That being said I think everybody is reading into this a bit much, and like EGAlex said ,if he posted a good tournament result it would turn some heads. ya but what hes saying is those player have not had a good tournament results in along time and they have a team... kinda hippocritic if oyu ask me. | ||
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DH_Remorse
Denmark139 Posts
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braheem
Canada81 Posts
On August 22 2011 14:54 Polskaa wrote: No offence Strifeco Machine Axlav have no point to be on EG Destiny outstages them by a longshot especially Strifeco Not that I agree with the entirety of above said statement, but I do think destiny definitely outstages them. He's not a bad player by any means.. yeah he could improve to actually get tournament results, but who can't (maybe besides Nestea). It's either bandwagon hate or bandwagon love with this guy, hard for people to actually have an unbiased view. All this infestor spam BS people are ranting about is getting annoying... What the hell do you want him to make? Roach hydra? so he can get FF'd to death and melted by colossi? On August 22 2011 14:13 synapse wrote: I think a lot of Destiny's inconsistency comes from the fragility of his playstyle... infestor/ling requires PERFECT micro, if you slip up just a tiny bit it's over. That being said, I don't see him as progamer quality right now - but that's one of the reasons a team should pick him up, because he has a lot of potential in him. I completely agree with this... And seriously, all this talk of being "not fit for a team" because of personality is retarded..Do you want to say the same for Idra too? | ||
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lbmaian
United States689 Posts
As for whether he deserves all this attention, I do wish the community would start branching out from Destiny to other streamers. Right now, the only popular streams (consistently >1k viewers) are Destiny, Catz, idra, inControl, Liquid players, Koreans, White-ra, and Sen. Then there's the maybe 20 "middle tier" streams varying from 100 to 1000 viewers, and then the rest of the 100+ streamers are struggling to get any viewers at all. | ||
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atomic55
United States42 Posts
On August 22 2011 15:10 lbmaian wrote: Semi-fan here. I have doubts that Destiny will ever become top-tier, but I'd say he's better than some on EG and many in complexity. If not for Destiny's penchant for saying whatever he wants, damn whatever company would sponsor him wants, Destiny would be picked up instantly by most teams if he actually wanted to join a team. As for whether he deserves all this attention, I do wish the community would start branching out from Destiny to other streamers. Right now, the only popular streams (consistently >1k viewers) are Destiny, Catz, idra, inControl, Liquid players, Koreans, White-ra, and Sen. Then there's the maybe 20 "middle tier" streams varying from 100 to 1000 viewers, and then the rest of the 100+ streamers are struggling to get any viewers at all. Why would people want to watch mid tier players? Do you watch minor league baseball on tv? or arena football lol, no you watch for skill and rarely entertainment. Those streams provide that. | ||
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FairForever
Canada2392 Posts
On August 22 2011 14:54 Polskaa wrote: No offence Strifeco Machine Axlav have no point to be on EG Destiny outstages them by a longshot especially Strifeco Axslav beat Destiny at IPL. Destiny may be more popular but you can't just say he's better. I'd say Axslav, DeMu, and InControl are all within hitting range of Destiny in terms of skill level (all about equal), with Strifecro a step behind (and Machine and Lz about 50,000 steps behind). That's not the point though. For those who say Destiny and Idra are similar... well, they're both Zergs, both pretty good, both BM... but... 1) Idra is a better player. This is not debatable. Destiny took some games off great players but hasn't posted any real results. Idra, on the other hand, has won MLGs, still consistently finishes as a top 3 foreigner in MLG even with the Koreans around, had some decent Code S finishes, won IPL, etc. etc. 2) Idra is more valuable to EG in terms of marketability. When EG says Destiny's marketability is low, they mean it. Destiny is a popular player, but seeing as how the deal with Complexity didn't work out, we can assume that Destiny does not want to be doing non-game or coach related things. Idra is willing to show up on shows like Imbalanced, that DJWheat show (I don't watch these, sorry... don't know the name... Inside the Game?), and is willing to cast EG's team league and other things. | ||
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OptimusYale
Korea (South)1005 Posts
And not marketable, hell he has a hardcore fanbase, great personality (even though he can be offensive) and whatever. would love to see him play for a team soon  | ||
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FLEIA
Canada71 Posts
I use to always watch his stream, but not anymore he kinda of lost his magic on me. I have nothing against him. However, I'm not a huge fan boy to be clouded enough to give him anything higher. He has shown no real tournament presence, by that I mean at least top 10, and his only strategy are his infestors. If terrans utilize ghost more, I can't imagine mas infestors being to viable. However, I love it if he can prove me wrong. | ||
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tGFuRy
United States537 Posts
On August 22 2011 15:14 FairForever wrote: Axslav beat Destiny at IPL. Destiny may be more popular but you can't just say he's better. I'd say Axslav, DeMu, and InControl are all within hitting range of Destiny in terms of skill level (all about equal), with Strifecro a step behind (and Machine and Lz about 50,000 steps behind). That's not the point though. For those who say Destiny and Idra are similar... well, they're both Zergs, both pretty good, both BM... but... 1) Idra is a better player. This is not debatable. Destiny took some games off great players but hasn't posted any real results. Idra, on the other hand, has won MLGs, still consistently finishes as a top 3 foreigner in MLG even with the Koreans around, had some decent Code S finishes, won IPL, etc. etc. 2) Idra is more valuable to EG in terms of marketability. When EG says Destiny's marketability is low, they mean it. Destiny is a popular player, but seeing as how the deal with Complexity didn't work out, we can assume that Destiny does not want to be doing non-game or coach related things. Idra is willing to show up on shows like Imbalanced, that DJWheat show (I don't watch these, sorry... don't know the name... Inside the Game?), and is willing to cast EG's team league and other things. I like this post. Only thing I disagree with is saying machine and strifcro are super far behind when in reality their not. That's just in my opinion. | ||
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scph
Korea (South)262 Posts
This thread has become pointless. Who is anyone to judge if he has enough "value" to be on a team. Let Steve decide what's best for himself, if you're a fan, then support him, if not, just ignore him. | ||
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Absolutionn
United States512 Posts
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Gann1
United States1575 Posts
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atomic55
United States42 Posts
On August 22 2011 15:34 scph wrote: Wonder what Steve Bonelli has to say about "Destiny"... This thread has become pointless. Who is anyone to judge if he has enough "value" to be on a team. Let Steve decide what's best for himself, if you're a fan, then support him, if not, just ignore him. Well said bro! It be cool for steven to comment in this thread and post his own self annalysis | ||
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Apollo_Shards
1210 Posts
So is Huk. And besides that is just stupid. He doesnt play enough to get on GM in Korea. Also I think Destiny is just better then incontrol. | ||
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michglich
United States29 Posts
1. No major tourny wins, or even high placing. Untill he hits top 32 at an MLG, or maybe qualifies for Code A when he inevitably visits Korea, larger teams won't even look at him. 2. His personality. Now, I personally have no problem with it, but it's not very team-friendly. The reason he worked so well with ROOT was because they all had very similar personalities. I just don't think he would mesh well with any of the major teams, aside from Sixjax, considering they're the mercenary team. But Artosis has explicitly said he doesn't want him on his team :p Once he solves #1, he should have no problem finding a team to support him, considering #2 is a lesser of the two issues. | ||
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Ghoststrikes
Canada1356 Posts
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Kluey
Canada1197 Posts
Joking Aside: He needs a team I feel. Someone that doesn't value their reputation as much.. Maybe.. EG? XP | ||
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p0lyph0ny
United States217 Posts
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Worldzlol
United States43 Posts
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