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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
August 22 2011 06:43 GMT
#81
Did you receive permission from AG to post a PM or to use his name in it? lol that seems pretty odd to be posting this sort of post with specific names
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AnonymousXV
Profile Joined May 2011
United States45 Posts
August 22 2011 06:44 GMT
#82
more than half of the guys on EG according to this "EGalex" scale are like 3's and 4's at most
p0lyph0ny
Profile Joined July 2011
United States217 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-22 07:26:26
August 22 2011 06:47 GMT
#83
who is destiny?

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CycLOpZ
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia22 Posts
August 22 2011 06:52 GMT
#84
I believe that, like EGalex said, although he may be a good player in practice games, show matches or mid-tier tournaments, the fact of the matter is that if he is not proving himself on the big stage how can a competitive team be expected to take him on? Until he improves his game, or at least his tournament results, he cannot even hope to be recruited any time soon. Also, while I personally do not have any problem with his personality, it is understandable that teams would be cautious towards a recruitment. Being a good team player is, obviously, a core part to being on a team.
We cannot hold!
cereith
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-22 07:00:09
August 22 2011 06:56 GMT
#85
On August 22 2011 15:44 AnonymousXV wrote:
more than half of the guys on EG according to this "EGalex" scale are like 3's and 4's at most


Axslav was a wc3 probably played for eg in wc3 but can't find that out.
Demuslim is a very good terran who posts good results.
Idra posts very good results and is one of the best NA players.
Incontrol is semi decent, not posting the best results but being a very public figure and a player during sc1 for eg
Huk arguably the best non korean and one of the best in the world overall
LzGamer was an sc1 player with them.
Machine another semi decent player that played during brood war
Puma won nasl season 1
Strifeco good 2v2er

All of the players aside from strifeco and lzgamer, who are worse, incontrol, who's on the same level, are better than him. Likewise while they may not have the best results, they have tenure from sc1 which destiny doesn't have. While he does have an established fan base, his use of language and lack of being on an sc1 team keep him from being recruited. You also have to realize while a player may be bad, they would just accept a smaller pay, many people would gladly join eg, once a person has joined removing them from the team brings bad press.
CycLOpZ
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia22 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-22 06:56:59
August 22 2011 06:56 GMT
#86
ALTHOUGH, I agree that he should be a higher rating than a 4...
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Pwnographics
Profile Joined January 2011
New Zealand1097 Posts
August 22 2011 06:56 GMT
#87
I think he needs to widen his range of strategies, apart from just mass infestor.

As we saw today it dies pretty easy to MMA style drop marine harass during and just when he gets infestors.
lyhb
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada208 Posts
August 22 2011 06:57 GMT
#88
cool kid and a decent player but he only plays mass infestor base builds

his play style is interesting but it gets monotonous at times... funny and ironic thing is
he makes fun of koreans saying that 'they only do one build and get really good at it'


hes more of an entertainer than anything, i would rate him high on that regard
CycLOpZ
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia22 Posts
August 22 2011 06:58 GMT
#89
On August 22 2011 15:56 Pwnographics wrote:
I think he needs to widen his range of strategies, apart from just mass infestor.

As we saw today it dies pretty easy to MMA style drop marine harass during and just when he gets infestors.


agreed, he really goes way to all out with infestors, it is unnecessary to even have that many and would most likely be a better "all around" strategy to lower his infestor count and throw in some different units.
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seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-22 07:05:55
August 22 2011 07:04 GMT
#90
On August 22 2011 15:43 Zlasher wrote:
Did you receive permission from AG to post a PM or to use his name in it? lol that seems pretty odd to be posting this sort of post with specific names


This. I question if OP even asked Alex if he could post this for everyone to see.

Anyway, to justify the difference in skills in EG, keep in mind that people are paid different salaries. That, and a lot of their team are carry-overs from BW.

-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
August 22 2011 07:08 GMT
#91
Personally, I would love to see Destiny move to Korea and continue his training there. He has great potential and good work ethic and would progress even more over there.

So, FXO make it happen
Or some Korean team :D
DH_Remorse
Profile Joined August 2011
Denmark139 Posts
August 22 2011 07:14 GMT
#92
Well ,Destiny is a powerfull speaker , i'd say he would be good in politics but he's not mainstream in his views enugh to get votes, and the fact that his opponent would pull the "He dosent have a real job , he plays video games all day" card at every election dosent do him much credit... But do u have any ambitions of being a politician @Steven "Destiny" Bonell
So what ,i just walk up to security and go: "Whats up bitches i'm huk!" or what... - HuK
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
August 22 2011 07:15 GMT
#93
I personally don't like destiny's playstyle and never watch his stream, but the fact that he already has an established fan base (that is really big - based off of stream hits) makes him marketable in my book. Yes he has his personality quirks, but its those quirks which have created a cult following. On the right team, he could could really prove an influential figure and an excellent man to represent some sponsors (there are a lot of sponsors which he wouldn't suit, obviously).
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DH_Remorse
Profile Joined August 2011
Denmark139 Posts
August 22 2011 07:17 GMT
#94
On August 22 2011 15:47 p0lyph0ny wrote:
ratzDestiny <--- make it happen

...huh Troll harder ? Oh wait no please dont couse some kids might take it seriusly... T_T.

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DH_Remorse
Profile Joined August 2011
Denmark139 Posts
August 22 2011 07:19 GMT
#95
On August 22 2011 16:15 Plexa wrote:
I personally don't like destiny's playstyle and never watch his stream, but the fact that he already has an established fan base (that is really big - based off of stream hits) makes him marketable in my book. Yes he has his personality quirks, but its those quirks which have created a cult following. On the right team, he could could really prove an influential figure and an excellent man to represent some sponsors (there are a lot of sponsors which he wouldn't suit, obviously).


But dont u think he has potential as a speeker ? I find he's able to analize situations very well , and quickly put togeather a very competent argument. Excuse my bad english
So what ,i just walk up to security and go: "Whats up bitches i'm huk!" or what... - HuK
SwizzY
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1549 Posts
August 22 2011 07:24 GMT
#96
Destiny makes mistakes OFTEN, plain and simple. But many pros are not used to such extensive infestor play so he often gets away with some nail-biting victories (or losses). His play is FAR from refined, and his ZvP particularly is predictable at best
(11-12pool>Sling>2base4gas>infestor>Hive>BL).
I will admit he has gotten SO much better since I first watched him in his ZvT whinefest days and his full potential has yet to be reached.

But here are a few hard-hitting factoids to ask and discuss:
1) Why would a team pick up someone who has publicly expressed that he'd rather go it solo? That's an unnecessary risk for an unnecessary player (Grade B at best).

2) If I may be frank, Destiny is d***-riding the infestor into the ground. He probably has some of the most experience using the infestor to its utmost abilities, but it's been proven by his extremely lackluster tournament results that it can't and won't get him far.

3) I'm part of the viewership he has gained, except I've been around since the beginning (^o^). He's a great personality to have in the community, but my fanboyism checks out at the door and knows that if Destiny showed more varied ZvT, ZvP and even ZvZ tactics and strategies without the results, I'd respect him much more as a player.

4) With the game so volatile, will Destiny's success continue if and when Blizzard deems the infestor too powerful and hits it with the nerf bat? Only time will tell. I think its too early to really size him up when he has yet to show everything he has to offer.
All that glitters is not gold, all that wander are not lost, the old that is strong does not wither, deep roots are not reached by frost.
Shebuha
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1335 Posts
August 22 2011 07:32 GMT
#97
I'm a pretty big Destiny fan, and I hope him the best in everything he does. I would rate him at a 6/10. He's definitely a notable player, but he really hasn't proved anything at a tournament, which is really where it counts.

I mean, if you beat a good player one time in a show match, that's impressive, but a tournament result is way more so.

Hrpggtru
Profile Joined June 2011
25 Posts
August 22 2011 07:35 GMT
#98
On August 22 2011 13:33 Zahki wrote:
Destiny is a good player, he just relies too much on his patented infestor playstyle. Gets him ladder wins but in tourneys where he's facing palyers who know him and his style it gets countered so easily. If he tries to play without infestors for 2-3 weeks and develop a few other tricks then I think he could go pretty well.

Destiny is more value as entertainment than high quality play anyway. Seeing him infestor his way out of terrible situations is always a laugh, especially if he's skyping while he does it.


Destiny has played an innumerable number of games against Deezer, and will basically always go ling infestor against him, even when he gets "hard countered" by a +2 chargelot archon build and will win a significantly large number of those games. So even if he is metagamed by high level grandmaster players he still can do a decent job against them.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
LlamaNamedOsama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1900 Posts
August 22 2011 07:36 GMT
#99
Even if the GSPA were to be considered a "really big/notable" tournament, he'd still have to take a spot on the podium (top 3 finish) to prove himself, sniping players in a single encounter, even in a series, is not demonstrative of the consistency necessary to keep going all the way until outright trophies/metals/cash is awarded (which is what most look for in terms of "success").
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jacksonjackson86
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia15 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-22 07:41:14
August 22 2011 07:40 GMT
#100
How can you on the one hand grant that he has an amazing fan/stream following, yet rate him lowly in marketability? It doesn't make sense. The mere fact he attracts so many people to his stream, even without a team or tournament results, is proof that he is very marketable to fans of Starcraft. People don't watch him for no reason.

Agree he hasn't proven himself in tournaments, but that will come with time; he is a smart guy with good awareness.
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