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On August 23 2011 12:48 ins(out)side wrote:
Are there any gays out there who can comment on Artosis? Specifically I'm curious as to whether or not any gays with proven gaydar pick up anything regarding Mr. Stemkoski. It seems to me that he might be gay based on certain observations I've made. Just curious, I'm not hating or anything. I've got a decent number of gay friends and I support gay marriage in case you were wondering.
Hate to break it to you but "proven gaydar" doesn't exist.
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On August 26 2011 05:23 micronesia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2011 04:49 iD.NicKy wrote:
I slept with Artosis
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lol it's actually true Yeah he shares his bed no problem... been there done that (not for gay reasons though).
still jealous
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Please post more gay life stories haha, So much fun reading about how people came out and stuff!
I grew up in the Swedish countryside so we had like 0 gay people and 110% homophobia, so all this is like super interesting to me 
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On July 25 2011 01:31 splinter9 wrote:
Mora your sleeping with people habits are disgusting and sounds like a great way to get an STD. I wouldn't say anything about it if you didn't post it on the internet. You should be more careful and not sleep with every dude that ready to give it to you.
wanna fuck about it?
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hi ya'll! any gaymers goin to blizzcon???
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On August 26 2011 05:57 drdreggor wrote:Please post more gay life stories haha, So much fun reading about how people came out and stuff! I grew up in the Swedish countryside so we had like 0 gay people and 110% homophobia, so all this is like super interesting to me
ummm i hope this doesnt shock you but you probably had more than a few closeted gays. Maybe because of the rampant homophobia
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Hi everyone! I am bisexual and it is hard for me to be open about the person I am due to my work. I am in the military and many of my co-workers and friends are very slanderous when it comes to gays. This makes it really hard to be myself as I am a pretty effeminate male.
It is really stressful sometimes, and I am not ashamed at all about how I am but I feel coming out would jeopardize my career. Even though don't ask don't tell is being repealed and you are allowed to be openly gay in the military, that doesn't mean my superiors would evaluate me lower than I should be because of it. I really don't like having to hide my normal personality because of this.
Although I am married to a woman so I am guessing noone assumes anything, I get tired of the gay jokes when people see my tight jeans or purple shirts and whatnot. Even just being around such hateful talk that happens all the time in my workplace makes me sick. Guess I just needed to vent a little, I really don't have many people to talk to that know and accept how I am.
On that note, any of you want to play any SC2? I would love to get to know some of you TLers that I have something else in common with and play some games, Ciao~
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I'm curious how many of the people Gay-Canadian players on here are from the Vancouver area. It seems like (from what I've read in this thread and others) there are a few of us.
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On August 26 2011 14:28 GDR wrote:
I'm curious how many of the people Gay-Canadian players on here are from the Vancouver area. It seems like (from what I've read in this thread and others) there are a few of us.
I'm just south of there near Bellingham, WA~ Though I'm not Canadian, don't hold it against me :D
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Ever since it ocurred in Scrubs i was wondering about it: Are homosexual people attracted by their own bodies?
If this question sounds stupid or something, i dont want to offend anyone - just curios.
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On August 30 2011 23:07 KainiT wrote:
Ever since it ocurred in Scrubs i was wondering about it: Are homosexual people attracted by their own bodies?
If this question sounds stupid or something, i dont want to offend anyone - just curios.
This made me giggle a little bit. No, gay people are not generally attracted to their own bodies.
I can't think of a good analogy to explain this.
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On August 30 2011 23:07 KainiT wrote:
Ever since it ocurred in Scrubs i was wondering about it: Are homosexual people attracted by their own bodies?
If this question sounds stupid or something, i dont want to offend anyone - just curios.
straight people aren't?
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On August 26 2011 13:48 Cham wrote:
Hi everyone! I am bisexual and it is hard for me to be open about the person I am due to my work. I am in the military and many of my co-workers and friends are very slanderous when it comes to gays. This makes it really hard to be myself as I am a pretty effeminate male.
It is really stressful sometimes, and I am not ashamed at all about how I am but I feel coming out would jeopardize my career. Even though don't ask don't tell is being repealed and you are allowed to be openly gay in the military, that doesn't mean my superiors would evaluate me lower than I should be because of it. I really don't like having to hide my normal personality because of this.
Although I am married to a woman so I am guessing noone assumes anything, I get tired of the gay jokes when people see my tight jeans or purple shirts and whatnot. Even just being around such hateful talk that happens all the time in my workplace makes me sick. Guess I just needed to vent a little, I really don't have many people to talk to that know and accept how I am.
On that note, any of you want to play any SC2? I would love to get to know some of you TLers that I have something else in common with and play some games, Ciao~
if you don't like it then stop wearing tight jeans. people judge people based on how they look, gay, straight or otherwise.
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On August 30 2011 23:37 jarrydesque wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2011 23:07 KainiT wrote:
Ever since it ocurred in Scrubs i was wondering about it: Are homosexual people attracted by their own bodies?
If this question sounds stupid or something, i dont want to offend anyone - just curios. This made me giggle a little bit. No, gay people are not generally attracted to their own bodies. I can't think of a good analogy to explain this.
thx for the answer, but was kinda hoping for an explanation, because i obviously expected that answer, Otherwise there would be tons of jokes about that thing^^
Maybe its a bit like the relation with your parents and sisters, because most people are not attracted by relatives(i think so at least :D) But that would be odd too cause with the family thing there are obviously exceptions(incest)
Probably the reasons will just stay secret^^
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On August 30 2011 23:43 startover wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2011 23:07 KainiT wrote:
Ever since it ocurred in Scrubs i was wondering about it: Are homosexual people attracted by their own bodies?
If this question sounds stupid or something, i dont want to offend anyone - just curios. straight people aren't?
I can not speak for all straight people but I am not. I guess due to the fact that a manly body doesnt attract me ^^
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On August 30 2011 23:47 KainiT wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2011 23:37 jarrydesque wrote:On August 30 2011 23:07 KainiT wrote:
Ever since it ocurred in Scrubs i was wondering about it: Are homosexual people attracted by their own bodies?
If this question sounds stupid or something, i dont want to offend anyone - just curios. This made me giggle a little bit. No, gay people are not generally attracted to their own bodies. I can't think of a good analogy to explain this. thx for the answer, but was kinda hoping for an explanation, because i obviously expected that answer, Otherwise there would be tons of jokes about that thing^^ Maybe its a bit like the relation with your parents and sisters, because most people are not attracted by relatives(i think so at least :D) But that would be odd too cause with the family thing there are obviously exceptions(incest) Probably the reasons will just stay secret^^
You have the right idea. I actually wrote a blurb about being attracted to your sister as a straight male but I could not write it clearly enough. It's that same feel of neutrality that you would see a family member I think (incest aside). If not, it's the closest thing I can think of. Maybe it's just that familiarity?
Also as a side note it's worth mentioning that people in general see themselves differently to how other people see them.
I'll make a joke and say that some gay men may very well be attracted to themselves but in reality they are just vain. We call gays who spend all their time in the gym and obsessing over the way they look "muscle marys". These are the guys that when you stand behind them in line you're like "holy shit, dude is scary" and then he talks to the shopkeeper "I knooooooooooow, she was just TOO fabulous with the nasal twang et al xD
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Okay, time to make a confession about sexuality on a Starcraft forum.
This is directed towards the OP. (I'm not sure how active you are still in this thread).
For about 3/4 years I have been probably the biggest homophobe ever. Not to the point where I actively abuse gays for their sexuality or anything of the sort, but I have a lot of problems with gay people. I can't be around a gay person because they anger me in many different ways. As has been mentioned many times in this thread, I can't work out why a man that likes other men needs to talk in such an infuriating and feminine manner. I've read your replies to those questions but I'm still really not buying into it. Every time I hear a gay person speak like that I have to contain myself because it just infuriates me endlessy. I curse to myself or a close friend near me even though I know it's most likely wrong, but at the same time I can't help it.
Not just the voice, but the fact that I know what they're doing. Many people see a gay person and think 'harmless, perfectly fine with it'. All I see is the sexual actions they partake in, and it makes me disgusted and angry. It doesn't make sense to me why anyone would want to do what gays do. I'm a big proponent of prolonging the human race, because after all that's what we're here for and like all other animals, we have the 'tools' to do that. I feel like gays ignore this obvious rule of nature and that pisses me off for some reason. I'm not religious in the slightest. Like the OP, I'm a staunch atheist, so don't mistake my views as catholicism or anything of the sort. It's just how I view the world.
Basically I'm just a massive homophobe and I can't see myself ever changing that stance. Obviously I'm not completely proud of the hatred I hold, so I just want to see if anyone on here can convince me that I shouldn't feel this way for whatever reason. I don't know how to grow to a slight acceptance of gay people and as I get older I feel like I'm probably going to need a degree of tolerancy. Right now I can't even be in the presence of someone that's gay without grinding my teeth and clenching my fists.
Any advice?
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On August 31 2011 00:09 nuMi22 wrote:
Okay, time to make a confession about sexuality on a Starcraft forum.
This is directed towards the OP. (I'm not sure how active you are still in this thread).
For about 3/4 years I have been probably the biggest homophobe ever. Not to the point where I actively abuse gays for their sexuality or anything of the sort, but I have a lot of problems with gay people. I can't be around a gay person because they anger me in many different ways. As has been mentioned many times in this thread, I can't work out why a man that likes other men needs to talk in such an infuriating and feminine manner. I've read your replies to those questions but I'm still really not buying into it. Every time I hear a gay person speak like that I have to contain myself because it just infuriates me endlessy. I curse to myself or a close friend near me even though I know it's most likely wrong, but at the same time I can't help it.
Not just the voice, but the fact that I know what they're doing. Many people see a gay person and think 'harmless, perfectly fine with it'. All I see is the sexual actions they partake in, and it makes me disgusted and angry. It doesn't make sense to me why anyone would want to do what gays do. I'm a big proponent of prolonging the human race, because after all that's what we're here for and like all other animals, we have the 'tools' to do that. I feel like gays ignore this obvious rule of nature and that pisses me off for some reason. I'm not religious in the slightest. Like the OP, I'm a staunch atheist, so don't mistake my views as catholicism or anything of the sort. It's just how I view the world.
Basically I'm just a massive homophobe and I can't see myself ever changing that stance. Obviously I'm not completely proud of the hatred I hold, so I just want to see if anyone on here can convince me that I shouldn't feel this way for whatever reason. I don't know how to grow to a slight acceptance of gay people and as I get older I feel like I'm probably going to need a degree of tolerancy. Right now I can't even be in the presence of someone that's gay without grinding my teeth and clenching my fists.
Any advice?
So you say you have trouble with whats basically an illogical rage that you can't help but feel.
While directing this rage towards a group of people you feel have an illogical attraction to the same sex that they can't help but feel. Do you not see the irony in this?
You find people that talk feminine infuriating, I find people who say stuff like "I'm a big proponent of prolonging the human race, because after all that's what we're here for and like all other animals, we have the 'tools' to do that. I feel like gays ignore this obvious rule of nature and that pisses me off for some reason" infuriating and I know the reason why, it's because it's stupid.
Ever hear of the jar of flies experiment? If you have two jars of flies one with lots of food and one with a medium amount of food, the jar with lots of food the fly population explodes,they over consume the food and wind up dying. In the jar with a medium amount of food it is more stable because they don't breed as fast due to the limited food so they last longer. The point being breeding as fast and as much as you can isn't always the best for propagating your species.
So even from a "the point of us being here is to continue to exist through propagation", it's not like gay people hurt that, in fact if anything is going make it hard for humans to continue existing it will be when there's too many humans.
Who knows maybe there's a gene that makes you an angry bigot, that's fine if you can't help the way you feel no ones forcing you to love gay people, just don't go crazy and attack or accost them.
I don't know if it will actually convince you to stop feeling the way you do but if you keep in mind that they can't help the way they feel anymore then you can (according to you) then is it really fair to feel that hate and anger towards them? What if everyone felt hate and anger towards you for feeling hate and anger towards gay people? To the point where if they knew what you were thinking theyd grind their teeth and clench their fists. How uncomfortable would that make you feel?
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On August 30 2011 23:46 startover wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2011 13:48 Cham wrote:
Hi everyone! I am bisexual and it is hard for me to be open about the person I am due to my work. I am in the military and many of my co-workers and friends are very slanderous when it comes to gays. This makes it really hard to be myself as I am a pretty effeminate male.
It is really stressful sometimes, and I am not ashamed at all about how I am but I feel coming out would jeopardize my career. Even though don't ask don't tell is being repealed and you are allowed to be openly gay in the military, that doesn't mean my superiors would evaluate me lower than I should be because of it. I really don't like having to hide my normal personality because of this.
Although I am married to a woman so I am guessing noone assumes anything, I get tired of the gay jokes when people see my tight jeans or purple shirts and whatnot. Even just being around such hateful talk that happens all the time in my workplace makes me sick. Guess I just needed to vent a little, I really don't have many people to talk to that know and accept how I am.
On that note, any of you want to play any SC2? I would love to get to know some of you TLers that I have something else in common with and play some games, Ciao~ if you don't like it then stop wearing tight jeans. people judge people based on how they look, gay, straight or otherwise.
If future if someone is looking for support in a post, don't bother posting.
Cham, it's a pretty shitty situation but there are solutions. You are 100% right that you should not have to suppress who you are because of bigoted attitudes and outlooks. A large part of it is just being thick skinned to be honest. You really do have to realize that slurs against race, gender and orientation originate largely from social conditioning and lack of understanding. You must try your best to not take it personally because its not. It's stupidity and you are above it.
Anyway the focus of your post seems to be work related. I would not be too concerned. If you can get the idea to stick that the buffoons that point and laugh are mentally impeded and you can really do whatever you like. If you're concerned about superiors you don't have to run around telling people what you like in bed. If you're expressing yourself in whatever way you want then what else matters. Bedtime activities are not for the workplace in any case.
I get the impression you don't exactly have the support that you would like. Perhaps talking to your wife might be a good idea. This frustration is probably a cause of not being able to talk to people about this. If you're worried about you expression in the workplace I'm guessing that you don't really have the opportunity anywhere else?
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On August 31 2011 00:32 Nibbler89 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2011 00:09 nuMi22 wrote:
Okay, time to make a confession about sexuality on a Starcraft forum.
This is directed towards the OP. (I'm not sure how active you are still in this thread).
For about 3/4 years I have been probably the biggest homophobe ever. Not to the point where I actively abuse gays for their sexuality or anything of the sort, but I have a lot of problems with gay people. I can't be around a gay person because they anger me in many different ways. As has been mentioned many times in this thread, I can't work out why a man that likes other men needs to talk in such an infuriating and feminine manner. I've read your replies to those questions but I'm still really not buying into it. Every time I hear a gay person speak like that I have to contain myself because it just infuriates me endlessy. I curse to myself or a close friend near me even though I know it's most likely wrong, but at the same time I can't help it.
Not just the voice, but the fact that I know what they're doing. Many people see a gay person and think 'harmless, perfectly fine with it'. All I see is the sexual actions they partake in, and it makes me disgusted and angry. It doesn't make sense to me why anyone would want to do what gays do. I'm a big proponent of prolonging the human race, because after all that's what we're here for and like all other animals, we have the 'tools' to do that. I feel like gays ignore this obvious rule of nature and that pisses me off for some reason. I'm not religious in the slightest. Like the OP, I'm a staunch atheist, so don't mistake my views as catholicism or anything of the sort. It's just how I view the world.
Basically I'm just a massive homophobe and I can't see myself ever changing that stance. Obviously I'm not completely proud of the hatred I hold, so I just want to see if anyone on here can convince me that I shouldn't feel this way for whatever reason. I don't know how to grow to a slight acceptance of gay people and as I get older I feel like I'm probably going to need a degree of tolerancy. Right now I can't even be in the presence of someone that's gay without grinding my teeth and clenching my fists.
Any advice? So you say you have trouble with whats basically an illogical rage that you can't help but feel. While directing this rage towards a group of people you feel have an illogical attraction to the same sex that they can't help but feel. Do you not see the irony in this? You find people that talk feminine infuriating, I find people who say stuff like "I'm a big proponent of prolonging the human race, because after all that's what we're here for and like all other animals, we have the 'tools' to do that. I feel like gays ignore this obvious rule of nature and that pisses me off for some reason" infuriating and I know the reason why, it's because it's stupid. Ever hear of the jar of flies experiment? If you have two jars of flies one with lots of food and one with a medium amount of food, the jar with lots of food the fly population explodes,they over consume the food and wind up dying. In the jar with a medium amount of food it is more stable because they don't breed as fast due to the limited food so they last longer. The point being breeding as fast and as much as you can isn't always the best for propagating your species. So even from a "the point of us being here is to continue to exist through propagation", it's not like gay people hurt that, in fact if anything is going make it hard for humans to continue existing it will be when there's too many humans. Who knows maybe there's a gene that makes you an angry bigot, that's fine if you can't help the way you feel no ones forcing you to love gay people, just don't go crazy and attack or accost them. I don't know if it will actually convince you to stop feeling the way you do but if you keep in mind that they can't help the way they feel anymore then you can (according to you) then is it really fair to feel that hate and anger towards them? What if everyone felt hate and anger towards you for feeling hate and anger towards gay people? To the point where if they knew what you were thinking theyd grind their teeth and clench their fists. How uncomfortable would that make you feel?
I'm not sure it would bother me that much since I have it kind of ingrained in me that I'm right. I think there also might be a difference between 'irrational' love and 'irrational' hate, meaning the comparison maybe doesn't work so well. I do to some extent see your first point and I might try and remind myself that next time, so thank you. I'm not saying that the human race will die if they don't reproduce, and I'm not saying that we need everyone reproducing. I just think that every species should have the will to reproduce, yet we appear to be the only one with anomalies. I do however completely disagree with your point that suggests gay people are in a way 'helping' by not reproducing. I find it incredibly confusing that they don't have that 'natural' will to want to.
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