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matthewfoulkes
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom246 Posts
February 23 2010 18:00 GMT
#421
On February 23 2010 08:25 bdams19 wrote:
Those all pretty much cover it skyglow1. Be sure to stretch before AND after. Stretching after is more important than you think and has more effect because your muscles are already warm.

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On February 23 2010 04:08 AoN.DimSum wrote:

im not sure why you need motivation, if you really wanted to be in the gym you would be.


Haha that was good. Also thank you to matthew for this solid PM which had me rolling:

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Go fucking work out you fucking loser. you think your ill? think of lance armstrong. your just a fucking pussy get down to the fucking gym now you dickhead.


lol tl is awesome
;

you better of got down that Fing gym or ill abuse you more.
Lies? I Dont Tell lies! Thats no lie!
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
February 23 2010 19:08 GMT
#422
On February 23 2010 22:21 KwarK wrote:
I'm catered at university and you can kind of help yourself at breakfast and dinner and but the queues are a bitch. That means I usually just eat breakfast and then skip dinner (you don't get hungry once you get used to it). How bad is that for trying to improve fitness? I'm getting results but if it's making life a lot harder then I'd change.
Usually for breakfast I have
- 2 rashers of bacon
- 1 sausage
- beans
- 3 hash browns
- bowl of corn flakes
- 2 glasses of juice

That'll pretty much last me 24 hours. I eat about 8am and usually go to the gym about 1pm.



relying on primarily 1 meal per day definitely isn't a healthy habit
but if you are going to do it then a huge breakfast is the way to go
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
February 23 2010 20:11 GMT
#423
lol if anyone wants to see the a video segment on the Rutgers weightlifting club. The video of the club is at the end of the video. Im the small asian guy in the light blue shirt. They are two nationally ranked lifters in usa lifting in the video.

http://ur.rutgers.edu/video/rutv/sk/sk-113.wmv
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
ThatGuy
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada695 Posts
February 23 2010 22:17 GMT
#424
Question: When I reach my goals, I want to be able to do 3-5 sets of 8-10 reps of my goals afterwards (right now still doing the 3x5 SS program). What is the best way to transition to that?
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
February 24 2010 01:02 GMT
#425
On February 23 2010 22:21 KwarK wrote:
I'm catered at university and you can kind of help yourself at breakfast and dinner and but the queues are a bitch. That means I usually just eat breakfast and then skip dinner (you don't get hungry once you get used to it). How bad is that for trying to improve fitness? I'm getting results but if it's making life a lot harder then I'd change.
Usually for breakfast I have
- 2 rashers of bacon
- 1 sausage
- beans
- 3 hash browns
- bowl of corn flakes
- 2 glasses of juice

That'll pretty much last me 24 hours. I eat about 8am and usually go to the gym about 1pm.


Eat more meals a day... probably don't need all those carbs as well. More protein.

On February 24 2010 07:17 ThatGuy wrote:
Question: When I reach my goals, I want to be able to do 3-5 sets of 8-10 reps of my goals afterwards (right now still doing the 3x5 SS program). What is the best way to transition to that?


Keep doing 3x5...

I'm not sure why youu want to do 3-5 sets of 8-10 reps though. What are you looking to accomplish?
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
ThatGuy
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada695 Posts
February 24 2010 02:44 GMT
#426
On February 24 2010 10:02 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2010 07:17 ThatGuy wrote:
Question: When I reach my goals, I want to be able to do 3-5 sets of 8-10 reps of my goals afterwards (right now still doing the 3x5 SS program). What is the best way to transition to that?


Keep doing 3x5...

I'm not sure why youu want to do 3-5 sets of 8-10 reps though. What are you looking to accomplish?


When I reach my goals I want to attain a look with good definition, which from what I've read requires more repetitions for endurance.
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
February 24 2010 05:21 GMT
#427
On February 24 2010 11:44 ThatGuy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2010 10:02 eshlow wrote:
On February 24 2010 07:17 ThatGuy wrote:
Question: When I reach my goals, I want to be able to do 3-5 sets of 8-10 reps of my goals afterwards (right now still doing the 3x5 SS program). What is the best way to transition to that?


Keep doing 3x5...

I'm not sure why youu want to do 3-5 sets of 8-10 reps though. What are you looking to accomplish?


When I reach my goals I want to attain a look with good definition, which from what I've read requires more repetitions for endurance.

good definition has a lot more to do with nutrition than the program.
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20009 Posts
February 24 2010 07:06 GMT
#428
On February 24 2010 11:44 ThatGuy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2010 10:02 eshlow wrote:
On February 24 2010 07:17 ThatGuy wrote:
Question: When I reach my goals, I want to be able to do 3-5 sets of 8-10 reps of my goals afterwards (right now still doing the 3x5 SS program). What is the best way to transition to that?


Keep doing 3x5...

I'm not sure why youu want to do 3-5 sets of 8-10 reps though. What are you looking to accomplish?


When I reach my goals I want to attain a look with good definition, which from what I've read requires more repetitions for endurance.


Should be mixed in with high intensity lower reps as well. More strength to do more reps at more weight = better results
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15325 Posts
February 24 2010 08:07 GMT
#429
A question about nutrition: From the sources in the OP nutrition mainly controls overall body weight, while exercise controls body composition. I have relatively low body fat and I am looking to gain some - preferably non fat - weight. My workout environment is excellent, however I am concerned about the diet I am forced to where I live atm. I am not able to prepare my own food and everything served is incredible greasy with lots and lots of carbs and sugar. I am trying to find alternatives but it's really hard. After eating healthy for over a year the food here really disgusts me.

Plus I have a hard time believing my body will be able to use the crap I eat here for muscle repair and growth. How bad will this affect my exercise results? Can I still expect to gain non-fat weight? I can modify my exercising easily but I am pretty much stuck with a bad diet. Will this just ruin my progress?
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20009 Posts
February 24 2010 08:13 GMT
#430
On February 24 2010 17:07 zatic wrote:
A question about nutrition: From the sources in the OP nutrition mainly controls overall body weight, while exercise controls body composition. I have relatively low body fat and I am looking to gain some - preferably non fat - weight. My workout environment is excellent, however I am concerned about the diet I am forced to where I live atm. I am not able to prepare my own food and everything served is incredible greasy with lots and lots of carbs and sugar. I am trying to find alternatives but it's really hard. After eating healthy for over a year the food here really disgusts me.

Plus I have a hard time believing my body will be able to use the crap I eat here for muscle repair and growth. How bad will this affect my exercise results? Can I still expect to gain non-fat weight? I can modify my exercising easily but I am pretty much stuck with a bad diet. Will this just ruin my progress?


What exactly are your conditions that you are stuck with such shitty food?

You should still be able to see results, just not as good. As long as there's protein.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15325 Posts
February 24 2010 08:22 GMT
#431
I live in a hotel, am taxied to work where I stay the entire day and am taxied back to the hotel at night. Both work cafeteria and hotel serve the described food, as do local establishments. The only super market I found has a very limited selection of fresh food, mostly fruits.

Yes, protein intake, or lack thereof is what bothers me the most.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
February 24 2010 09:26 GMT
#432
That sort of food isn't going to hinder your growth by any means, the only thing I can suggest to battle the extra calories is to compliment your workout routine with plenty of cardio.
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
February 24 2010 14:25 GMT
#433
On February 24 2010 11:44 ThatGuy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2010 10:02 eshlow wrote:
On February 24 2010 07:17 ThatGuy wrote:
Question: When I reach my goals, I want to be able to do 3-5 sets of 8-10 reps of my goals afterwards (right now still doing the 3x5 SS program). What is the best way to transition to that?


Keep doing 3x5...

I'm not sure why youu want to do 3-5 sets of 8-10 reps though. What are you looking to accomplish?


When I reach my goals I want to attain a look with good definition, which from what I've read requires more repetitions for endurance.


No, it doesn't.

Look at any of the Olympic weightlifters who mainly do reps within the 1-3 range in the bodyweight classes:

http://images.google.com/images?q=olympic weightlifter&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi

Heavy weights + food = hypertrophy. Quality food will also help modulate fat loss as well. Sprinting may help for hypertrophy as well.

On February 24 2010 17:07 zatic wrote:
A question about nutrition: From the sources in the OP nutrition mainly controls overall body weight, while exercise controls body composition. I have relatively low body fat and I am looking to gain some - preferably non fat - weight. My workout environment is excellent, however I am concerned about the diet I am forced to where I live atm. I am not able to prepare my own food and everything served is incredible greasy with lots and lots of carbs and sugar. I am trying to find alternatives but it's really hard. After eating healthy for over a year the food here really disgusts me.

Plus I have a hard time believing my body will be able to use the crap I eat here for muscle repair and growth. How bad will this affect my exercise results? Can I still expect to gain non-fat weight? I can modify my exercising easily but I am pretty much stuck with a bad diet. Will this just ruin my progress?


The food won't necessarily hinder your gains (depending -- some people it does significantly or some people it does negligibly) but it will hinder your overall health unfortunately. If there's a lot of sugar/greasy stuff/etc. start taking fish oil to help counteract the inflammation that will occur.

I wouldn't worry about it too much if you can't do anything about it. But definitely start taking fish oil if you haven't already.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-24 18:17:03
February 24 2010 18:15 GMT
#434
lol can anyone here do this?



pretty sick haha

i tried a couple times i think i could do it with a bit more work but im worried i'd hurt myself trying lol
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20009 Posts
February 24 2010 18:18 GMT
#435
On February 24 2010 17:22 zatic wrote:
I live in a hotel, am taxied to work where I stay the entire day and am taxied back to the hotel at night. Both work cafeteria and hotel serve the described food, as do local establishments. The only super market I found has a very limited selection of fresh food, mostly fruits.

Yes, protein intake, or lack thereof is what bothers me the most.


Get fish/meat/peanut butter/milk/fruits+veggies at the super market, order some protein online if you want. Pack your lunch for work if you can. But yeah its mostly your overall health is in more jeapardy then your muscle gains.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42429 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-24 21:05:45
February 24 2010 20:59 GMT
#436
On February 23 2010 22:40 unknown.sam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2010 22:21 KwarK wrote:
I'm catered at university and you can kind of help yourself at breakfast and dinner and but the queues are a bitch. That means I usually just eat breakfast and then skip dinner (you don't get hungry once you get used to it). How bad is that for trying to improve fitness? I'm getting results but if it's making life a lot harder then I'd change.
Usually for breakfast I have
- 2 rashers of bacon
- 1 sausage
- beans
- 3 hash browns
- bowl of corn flakes
- 2 glasses of juice

That'll pretty much last me 24 hours. I eat about 8am and usually go to the gym about 1pm.

that looks like a really unhealthy eating habit you have there. regardless of whether your goals are for gaining mass or losing fat, you really should be eating 5-6 meals a day (with each having a decent amount of protein).

not the healthiest looking breakfast either IMO. i personally would drop the hash browns and the juice (i prefer milk).

I figured the juice was probably the only part of it with any vitamins in. The food here isn't great. I could probably switch the hash browns for more cereal or something though. Or maybe lose some carbs and add some milk or something a few times a day. My eating habits are shaped pretty heavily by not having a kitchen so I'm trying to work around that. In the last 5 weeks I've lost a little over a stone I think which is a decent result. I'm feeling pretty good and I don't see the one meal a day thing as a diet, it's just a habit. I don't make a conscious effort to reduce calories and I still have a fair few from drinking and sweets and stuff like that.
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ThatGuy
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada695 Posts
February 24 2010 21:19 GMT
#437
Cool, thanks for the replies. What would be the reasons one would want to do 8-10 (or more) repetitions of an exercise then (P90X being a good example)?
hammeronetime
Profile Joined June 2008
United States64 Posts
February 24 2010 21:39 GMT
#438
On February 25 2010 05:59 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2010 22:40 unknown.sam wrote:
On February 23 2010 22:21 KwarK wrote:
I'm catered at university and you can kind of help yourself at breakfast and dinner and but the queues are a bitch. That means I usually just eat breakfast and then skip dinner (you don't get hungry once you get used to it). How bad is that for trying to improve fitness? I'm getting results but if it's making life a lot harder then I'd change.
Usually for breakfast I have
- 2 rashers of bacon
- 1 sausage
- beans
- 3 hash browns
- bowl of corn flakes
- 2 glasses of juice

That'll pretty much last me 24 hours. I eat about 8am and usually go to the gym about 1pm.

that looks like a really unhealthy eating habit you have there. regardless of whether your goals are for gaining mass or losing fat, you really should be eating 5-6 meals a day (with each having a decent amount of protein).

not the healthiest looking breakfast either IMO. i personally would drop the hash browns and the juice (i prefer milk).

I figured the juice was probably the only part of it with any vitamins in. The food here isn't great. I could probably switch the hash browns for more cereal or something though. Or maybe lose some carbs and add some milk or something a few times a day. My eating habits are shaped pretty heavily by not having a kitchen so I'm trying to work around that. In the last 5 weeks I've lost a little over a stone I think which is a decent result. I'm feeling pretty good and I don't see the one meal a day thing as a diet, it's just a habit. I don't make a conscious effort to reduce calories and I still have a fair few from drinking and sweets and stuff like that.


What are your fitness goals? I'm assuming that part of it is losing weight since you said you lost some. Anyone can make progress on any program, assuming they start from a bad enough baseline.

Juice is bad, even 100% all natural juice. Fruit derives most of it's calories from sugary carbs. If you must consume fruit then eat it instead of drink it. It's more filling and less calories. One cup of orange juice is equivalent to 2-3 oranges.

Cereal is more sugar. Read the nutritional label of corn flakes and try to piece together how anyone can claim it's healthy. Even the healthy cereals is all marketing bullshit.

Beans are great. They're nutritious, filling, and have protein in them.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42429 Posts
February 24 2010 21:51 GMT
#439
Endurance for running and other general CV fitness is probably my central goal because that's the one I actually need. However I was around 88kg which probably didn't help me with regard to that, simply because I was carrying extra fat around. I've been going to the gym or playing squash 3 times a week and the eating habits have lowered my overall weight a fair bit. At the gym I generally do an hour of cv work and then a few minutes of weights depending on how busy it is.
Secondary goals are looking good shirtless but tbh I feel before I get onto that I need to lower my body fat %. Any definition I may have is currently buried.

Unfortunately there's not so much I can change with regard to eating. Although I might contact the hall warden and speak to them about changing the meals. It's a thought.
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Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
February 24 2010 22:06 GMT
#440
On February 25 2010 06:51 KwarK wrote:
Endurance for running and other general CV fitness is probably my central goal because that's the one I actually need. However I was around 88kg which probably didn't help me with regard to that, simply because I was carrying extra fat around. I've been going to the gym or playing squash 3 times a week and the eating habits have lowered my overall weight a fair bit. At the gym I generally do an hour of cv work and then a few minutes of weights depending on how busy it is.
Secondary goals are looking good shirtless but tbh I feel before I get onto that I need to lower my body fat %. Any definition I may have is currently buried.

Unfortunately there's not so much I can change with regard to eating. Although I might contact the hall warden and speak to them about changing the meals. It's a thought.


One thing though: In order to look good shirtless you need to up the protein alot in order to loose fat and preserve muscle. Otherwise you will likely end up thin but still fat around the hips and stomach. Then again I don't know how well you handle carbs. I have a friend who exercises almost every day of the week and all he eats is pasta and meatballs. Still he looks like a greek god so I dunno

1 meal works but then you have to eat ALOT, if you want to make a serious effort at being ripped.
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