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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8266 Posts
February 13 2014 13:37 GMT
#19041
On February 13 2014 22:10 Tobberoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 21:45 rudimentalfeelthelov wrote:
Reinstalled after a month or so. Pick magnus to play mid. Other players on my team pick mirana, antimage, shadow demon, gyro :D:D. Get about 25-30k gold lead. Lose because none of 4 carries on my team bought bkb. A standard 4500 match to remind me why I uninstalled dota in the first place.

Wait, since when is Shadow Demon a carry?


Mirana as well. Can be played as a carry, but better off not to, especially in this lineup.
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
February 13 2014 14:46 GMT
#19042
Team didn't pick carry. Well we were winning anyway until everyone decided not to push together. ~_~
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
February 13 2014 15:10 GMT
#19043
3 man black hole?

Let's put a tornado in and ruin everything!
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
SS.Shark
Profile Joined February 2013
Canada11 Posts
February 13 2014 15:13 GMT
#19044
How the hell is this MMR supposed to be working ? I'm not gonna get into the noob vs non-noob discussion but seriously, how do people who have 300 wins (so lets say average of 600 games) get to play with peeps who have 1500 wins (so lets say average of 3000 games) ? How much knowledge can you get in 600 games ? How many heroes can you cover to say that you know at least what their spells are doing ? MMR allows players who have over 150 games to start queuing right ? What can you accomplish in terms of experience after 150 games ?
Lai sha wo !
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-13 15:25:47
February 13 2014 15:25 GMT
#19045
maybe people smurf

only my other account which has like 200 games i play with people with +1000 games all the time
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
February 13 2014 15:28 GMT
#19046
ive met absolute retards with 1-2000 more games played than me

experience means nothing if its experience of doing something wrong
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
February 13 2014 16:18 GMT
#19047
it takes a special kind of retard to pick a blink ability in Ability Draft and max Bash (Slardar) and Backtrack before putting a single point into blink.
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
February 13 2014 16:27 GMT
#19048
On February 14 2014 00:13 SS.Shark wrote:
How the hell is this MMR supposed to be working ? I'm not gonna get into the noob vs non-noob discussion but seriously, how do people who have 300 wins (so lets say average of 600 games) get to play with peeps who have 1500 wins (so lets say average of 3000 games) ? How much knowledge can you get in 600 games ? How many heroes can you cover to say that you know at least what their spells are doing ? MMR allows players who have over 150 games to start queuing right ? What can you accomplish in terms of experience after 150 games ?

New accounts + Dota 1 / HoN experience etc. Should really not look at games played, one of the most useless stat ever
리노크 👑
SS.Shark
Profile Joined February 2013
Canada11 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-13 16:56:09
February 13 2014 16:55 GMT
#19049
On February 14 2014 01:27 DrPandaPhD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 00:13 SS.Shark wrote:
How the hell is this MMR supposed to be working ? I'm not gonna get into the noob vs non-noob discussion but seriously, how do people who have 300 wins (so lets say average of 600 games) get to play with peeps who have 1500 wins (so lets say average of 3000 games) ? How much knowledge can you get in 600 games ? How many heroes can you cover to say that you know at least what their spells are doing ? MMR allows players who have over 150 games to start queuing right ? What can you accomplish in terms of experience after 150 games ?

New accounts + Dota 1 / HoN experience etc. Should really not look at games played, one of the most useless stat ever


I'd so believe that but when I see a timber who against a trilane maxes out first and second before passive it's hard to believe anything. Or a BS who at 25min was still trying to get radiance while he had threads and a wand while the other team was knocking our T4's down. The examples are endless. Not to mention that these guys random like they're some top amateur team or something
Lai sha wo !
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
February 13 2014 17:07 GMT
#19050
On February 14 2014 01:55 SS.Shark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 01:27 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On February 14 2014 00:13 SS.Shark wrote:
How the hell is this MMR supposed to be working ? I'm not gonna get into the noob vs non-noob discussion but seriously, how do people who have 300 wins (so lets say average of 600 games) get to play with peeps who have 1500 wins (so lets say average of 3000 games) ? How much knowledge can you get in 600 games ? How many heroes can you cover to say that you know at least what their spells are doing ? MMR allows players who have over 150 games to start queuing right ? What can you accomplish in terms of experience after 150 games ?

New accounts + Dota 1 / HoN experience etc. Should really not look at games played, one of the most useless stat ever


I'd so believe that but when I see a timber who against a trilane maxes out first and second before passive it's hard to believe anything. Or a BS who at 25min was still trying to get radiance while he had threads and a wand while the other team was knocking our T4's down. The examples are endless. Not to mention that these guys random like they're some top amateur team or something

im part of a top amateur team? sick!
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
February 13 2014 17:29 GMT
#19051
Guys, imo a very very huge percentage of Dota players already switched or played a good amount of time since the open beta period. I don't buy, "years of Dota experience with a 50-200 games guy" crap anymore, except smurfs.
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-13 17:31:23
February 13 2014 17:31 GMT
#19052
On February 14 2014 02:29 Laserist wrote:
Guys, imo a very very huge percentage of Dota players already switched or played a good amount of time since the open beta period. I don't buy, "years of Dota experience with a 50-200 games guy" crap anymore, except smurfs.

My cousin with 4 years of HoN experience (and sporadic dota experience before that) started playing dota 2 about a week ago.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Nomzter
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden2802 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-13 19:19:23
February 13 2014 18:40 GMT
#19053
pudge mid and mirana safelane afk farm on my team ((((

why the fuck do i even play this game

also, terrorblades on the enemy team, every fucking game.
SS.Shark
Profile Joined February 2013
Canada11 Posts
February 13 2014 20:16 GMT
#19054
On February 14 2014 02:07 Targe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 01:55 SS.Shark wrote:
On February 14 2014 01:27 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On February 14 2014 00:13 SS.Shark wrote:
How the hell is this MMR supposed to be working ? I'm not gonna get into the noob vs non-noob discussion but seriously, how do people who have 300 wins (so lets say average of 600 games) get to play with peeps who have 1500 wins (so lets say average of 3000 games) ? How much knowledge can you get in 600 games ? How many heroes can you cover to say that you know at least what their spells are doing ? MMR allows players who have over 150 games to start queuing right ? What can you accomplish in terms of experience after 150 games ?

New accounts + Dota 1 / HoN experience etc. Should really not look at games played, one of the most useless stat ever


I'd so believe that but when I see a timber who against a trilane maxes out first and second before passive it's hard to believe anything. Or a BS who at 25min was still trying to get radiance while he had threads and a wand while the other team was knocking our T4's down. The examples are endless. Not to mention that these guys random like they're some top amateur team or something

im part of a top amateur team? sick!


It was meant as in people shouldnt not random in ranked where you dont posses a good knowledge of all heroes. if you want to play random go play AR, no prob with that
Lai sha wo !
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 13 2014 20:20 GMT
#19055
I'm of the opinion that if you play AP in ranked then you should expect randoming teammates lol.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-13 21:06:48
February 13 2014 21:03 GMT
#19056
On February 14 2014 00:13 SS.Shark wrote:
How the hell is this MMR supposed to be working ? I'm not gonna get into the noob vs non-noob discussion but seriously, how do people who have 300 wins (so lets say average of 600 games) get to play with peeps who have 1500 wins (so lets say average of 3000 games) ? How much knowledge can you get in 600 games ? How many heroes can you cover to say that you know at least what their spells are doing ? MMR allows players who have over 150 games to start queuing right ? What can you accomplish in terms of experience after 150 games ?

1. Smurf / new accounts. A lot of people have secondary accounts; it was more helpful before because getting out of low prio happened after a time period instead of number of games played. Also dodging mute bans.

2. Queues where the player pool is really small. Very few people queue on stuff like single draft / captains mode / captains draft. Hence you're more likely to get games with greater variance in skill for those modes.

3. Plenty of people queue with friends who are much better or worse than them, especially in unranked. If you're getting something as extreme as a 1500 win player in the same game as a 300 win player, chances are the 300 wins guy is playing with a stack of buddies with really high MMR.

4. Dota 1 experience. It actually makes a pretty big difference. I had absolutely no experience with mobas before I played Dota 2. It took me a lot more games to get a decent skill level than some guys I play with who were long time Dota 1 / HoN players and were as good as me with about half the games played


Come on, there are pretty logical variables and inconsistencies when it comes to matchmaking in a 5v5 game, especially one thats free and hence allows you to make as many accounts as you want. It really baffles me that people still complain about matchmaking in Dota
Dodge arrows
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
February 13 2014 21:07 GMT
#19057
Decided to play enchantress, one of my favourite heroes.

A simple TB ruined my entire game by focusing me.
Seriously, how the fuck do you want to do any damages? He doesn't even care of my passive...

gg valve
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
Sycamore
Profile Joined January 2013
204 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-13 21:33:00
February 13 2014 21:30 GMT
#19058
I fucking hate it when people random as 4th or 5th pick, it just screams "I DONT CARE ABOUT A DECENT TEAM COMPOSITION, FUCK YOU TEAM, DEAL WITH MY PICK; IM GONNA BE A SELFISH ASSHOLE"

And more often than not, those people don't bother to repick if they got a shitty hero not fitting into the composition (of course, why would they, if they were that clever they wouldn't have randomed that late in the first place)
Ban the Tree 2013
schmitty9800
Profile Joined August 2010
United States390 Posts
February 13 2014 21:42 GMT
#19059
On February 14 2014 06:30 Sycamore wrote:
I fucking hate it when people random as 4th or 5th pick, it just screams "I DONT CARE ABOUT A DECENT TEAM COMPOSITION, FUCK YOU TEAM, DEAL WITH MY PICK; IM GONNA BE A SELFISH ASSHOLE"

And more often than not, those people don't bother to repick if they got a shitty hero not fitting into the composition (of course, why would they, if they were that clever they wouldn't have randomed that late in the first place)

That's not half as bad as someone randoming, the whole team picking around that random pick (windranger...we then picked CK, BH, invoker, and support pugna), then he repicks into fucking PA. Support CK buying smoke and wards, sigh.
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
February 13 2014 23:26 GMT
#19060
http://dotabuff.com/matches/519490839
Axe dives constantly and feeds early, and Lion goes 0-10-9. How the hell do you not get a kill with finger? The answer is to never use it. Or any spell really. I think I saw one hex and one earth spike all game. Meepo is the easiest thing in the world to counter pick (get any kind of magic damage/aoe (Hi qop warlock-riki)), and even though our omni played decently, he was still an omni.
Only bright side to this game was that my Puck still made things happen. I basically won all three lanes for the team, and I'm playing on garbage internet that likes to freeze randomly for 2-3 seconds at a time. Took a lot of balls to jaunt to my orb when freezing started, even better to see I had gotten a kill and accidentaly dreamcoiled riki when it caught back up.
Still, stupid ass team was stupid
"KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000
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