EPTsomeone abandons , i think bullet was dodged
next game same guy on my team, i pick furion so he cant take it, he picks sniper and rushes armlet
we won but wtf
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zezamer
Finland5701 Posts
someone abandons , i think bullet was dodged next game same guy on my team, i pick furion so he cant take it, he picks sniper and rushes armlet we won but wtf | ||
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Belisarius
Australia6233 Posts
On a related note, I'm realising that using unranked solely to practice heroes I'm not confident with has tanked my MMR into some kind of twilight zone. | ||
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xAdra
Singapore1858 Posts
![[image loading]](http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/853/mrhf.png) No fade bolt, orb of venom first rubick. What the fuck did I do to deserve this? | ||
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hooahah
3752 Posts
On February 14 2014 10:41 zezamer wrote: so furion who instantly buys wards, tps to enemy base, places wards, tps to offlane someone abandons , i think bullet was dodged next game same guy on my team, i pick furion so he cant take it, he picks sniper and rushes armlet we won but wtf Furions do that sometimes to try and snipe the courier, it's sort of common | ||
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Animzor
Sweden2154 Posts
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
On February 14 2014 16:17 Animzor wrote: I think it's fucking stupid that ranked matchmaking works just like nonranked. First you win 10 games in a row. Then suddenly everyone on your team is complete shit, as if they never played dota before. Good times. It makes no sense that it should work like this, considering how MMR works etc... but yeah, it often feels like it. Personally, I had a pretty nice winning streak and it felt like both my team and opponents got better and better. Then I lost a game (both my team and opponents were fine, their team just played slightly better). Next 3 games were godawful. I lost all of them, which is fine, the problem was the quality of the players on both teams. I literally went from nice games where people picked support, bought courier and even wards... to games where every player picked carries, no one bought courier nor wards, and people played in ridiculous positions. It honestly felt like rather than lowering my MMR slightly because of a loss, the game put me in some hidden low prio because I lost. Oh well, I guess my MMR uncertainty is just really high. | ||
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Animzor
Sweden2154 Posts
On February 14 2014 16:41 Tobberoth wrote: It makes no sense that it should work like this, considering how MMR works etc... but yeah, it often feels like it. Personally, I had a pretty nice winning streak and it felt like both my team and opponents got better and better. Then I lost a game (both my team and opponents were fine, their team just played slightly better). Next 3 games were godawful. I lost all of them, which is fine, the problem was the quality of the players on both teams. I literally went from nice games where people picked support, bought courier and even wards... to games where every player picked carries, no one bought courier nor wards, and people played in ridiculous positions. It honestly felt like rather than lowering my MMR slightly because of a loss, the game put me in some hidden low prio because I lost. Oh well, I guess my MMR uncertainty is just really high. That is exactly the problem. The fact that you suddenly get matched with people who obviously do not have a clue. It's not the losing that gets to me, it's the fact that I may as well not even play the game, because it doesn't feel like a serious game, you can always tell when it's going to be one of these troll games. | ||
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xAdra
Singapore1858 Posts
On February 14 2014 14:02 Belisarius wrote: What kind of person afk jungles for 20 minutes and then emerges to rage at their team because the enemy carry has had freefarm? Like, seriously, it's like grade two or something where they teach you that four is less than five. I believe they taught me that when I was 2 years old. DotA is filled with so many amazingly retarded people, I can't even believe what I see sometimes. like the classic "3 melee carries in team, LET'S RANDOM A HERO!" problem. How is it that so many people at my level can't understand that not having supports=ded gaem? The random option should be disabled in -ap. The extra gold is unfair anyways, especially in a mid vs mid matchup, and people who can't decide what hero to play should just queue -ar. | ||
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
On February 14 2014 05:16 SS.Shark wrote: It was meant as in people shouldnt not random in ranked where you dont posses a good knowledge of all heroes. if you want to play random go play AR, no prob with that i random in ranked and there are still about 20 heroes i havent played | ||
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idonthinksobro
3138 Posts
On February 14 2014 17:59 xAdra wrote: I believe they taught me that when I was 2 years old. DotA is filled with so many amazingly retarded people, I can't even believe what I see sometimes. like the classic "3 melee carries in team, LET'S RANDOM A HERO!" problem. How is it that so many people at my level can't understand that not having supports=ded gaem? The random option should be disabled in -ap. The extra gold is unfair anyways, especially in a mid vs mid matchup, and people who can't decide what hero to play should just queue -ar. The extra gold advantage is much more severe in other lanes than mid i think. I often times get extra tangos, rop (for a quick basi) a salve and wards on supports. If we end up in a 2v2 lane i usually can outharass the opponents support because of the extra regen the basilius ring helps with mana sustain and extra armor is helpful too. In mid the extra gold helps but the difference is only 3-4 cs and insignificant after both have a bottle. | ||
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goody153
44280 Posts
On February 14 2014 02:31 Sn0_Man wrote: My cousin with 4 years of HoN experience (and sporadic dota experience before that) started playing dota 2 about a week ago. i've been playing for 12 years in dota .. i think the version was still 5.84c when i started playing dota (i remember rikimaru having death ward as his ultimate and a 60 seconds bkb as naix/lifestealer ultimate and morphling having the spell steal as ult .. there was a lot of highly imbalanced hero's at that time and oh yeah the good old buyable aegis and not to mention roshan THAT DOES NOT DIE without at least 2 permabash 6 slotted hero at your team ) .. and yes i still suck .. don't buy the individual skill crap .. what i learned from the dota over the years is that even if the opponent is more skilled individually than your team you will still win as long as you have a clear gameplan and teamwork.. as long as the team don' know what the hell is the purpose of supports and carries are .. the individual skill crap won't matter .. but if basics are there sure you face a pro they are definitely gonna wreck you. And regarding this here is my QQ before i forget: It have been playing for years and somehow i still cannot understand how in pub players never think about the team and pick whatever they want. I mean PA + Void + Tiny + DK + OD. I mean how are we supposed to work together. And like what you guessed we got trashed ofc. | ||
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Dubzex
United States6994 Posts
On February 14 2014 15:23 hooahah wrote: Furions do that sometimes to try and snipe the courier, it's sort of common I think trixi used to do this and sometimes bulba. | ||
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
On February 14 2014 21:12 goody153 wrote: It have been playing for years and somehow i still cannot understand how in pub players never think about the team and pick whatever they want. I mean PA + Void + Tiny + DK + OD. I mean how are we supposed to work together. And like what you guessed we got trashed ofc. The weirdest thing about it is that it's not like all of those people had decided beforehand "I'm going to play this hero, I'll first pick". They usually keep picking carries even though tons of people already did, often way later. I can't understand the mindset of someone who is AFK and picks 20 seconds after game started, and still picks a carry when there's no support. | ||
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xAdra
Singapore1858 Posts
On February 14 2014 22:13 Tobberoth wrote: The weirdest thing about it is that it's not like all of those people had decided beforehand "I'm going to play this hero, I'll first pick". They usually keep picking carries even though tons of people already did, often way later. I can't understand the mindset of someone who is AFK and picks 20 seconds after game started, and still picks a carry when there's no support. I take this phenomenon as a sign that majority of dota players are simply dumb. This happens in approximately two-thirds of my games, and I'm sure almost every other Dota player can sympathize. | ||
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goody153
44280 Posts
On February 14 2014 22:26 xAdra wrote: I take this phenomenon as a sign that majority of dota players are simply dumb. This happens in approximately two-thirds of my games, and I'm sure almost every other Dota player can sympathize. But this is way better than supports stealing the farm of the team's carry or just afk farming. I mean i am pretty sure you guys have seen a CM farming in the lane waiting to be ganked while his/her ally carry without AOE skill just leaves the lane. Those supports are how do i say this "incredible". And then later blame the carry for not having enough farm. | ||
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xAdra
Singapore1858 Posts
On February 14 2014 22:36 goody153 wrote: But this is way better than supports stealing the farm of the team's carry or just afk farming. I mean i am pretty sure you guys have seen a CM farming in the lane waiting to be ganked while his/her ally carry without AOE skill just leaves the lane. Those supports are how do i say this "incredible". And then later blame the carry for not having enough farm. Another one is what me and my friends have dubbed "the fake support syndrome" where a support player buys courier, and never gets a single set of wards. Pushes his lane by doing single pulls. Then sees a gank on the opposite end of the map, and walks over. The gank has obviously ended by the time he reaches, so he proceeds to "roam" around, basically doing nothing, maybe last hitting a couple of creeps now and then. Ends up underlevelled and the team suffers because of his uselessness, and he responds with "noob carries farm slow, blame more" | ||
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
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Kreb
4834 Posts
On February 14 2014 22:36 goody153 wrote: But this is way better than supports stealing the farm of the team's carry or just afk farming. I mean i am pretty sure you guys have seen a CM farming in the lane waiting to be ganked while his/her ally carry without AOE skill just leaves the lane. Those supports are how do i say this "incredible". And then later blame the carry for not having enough farm. Yes and no. While the support obviously should try to fulfill his duties as best he can, many times you just cant. Why? Because seemingly the standard pub-setup is 2-1-1+jungle. Or 1-protect-4 as people like to call it, since you'll be damn lucky if that jungler is actually helping you win your lanes in any way. If Im solo support with 4 farmers on my team, dont expect me to be able to pull, buy couriers, buy wards, sentries, zone out the offlaner and gank other lanes. I can do 2-3 of those things maybe. Not 6. If I devote all my time to keep their offlaner at bay, my duties will be lacking elsewhere. And the other way around. If I go gank mid successfully, be happy I did instead of complaining that their offlaner isnt being zones out. Many times I just resort to pulling while doing minor harassment on the offlaner between pulls. Call it the support way of afk-farming. Trying to be creative with 4 farmers is often futile anyway, so if you pick 4 farmers and Im the last support, I will have no regrets farming away myself. Go pick me a 2nd support if you want proper supporting, theres a reason theres always 2 supports in pro games. And yes, I do love roaming around, gank mid, gank offlane, smoke somewhere and pull a bit in between when you got a support buddy to play with. Sadly thats really not the norm. The fault isnt on the carry getting lacking farm because theres a timber offlaner fucking him up. And the fault isnt on the support not zoning out the timber completely (Timber stands up very well vs many hard carry/support combos). Both love to blame the other, but the fault is really on the stupid (and sadly common) setup of 4 farmers and 1 guy protecting them. And that one guy can only do so much. And when that guy cant do his job, that translates into the carries getting a harder time. + Show Spoiler + Hell, take a look Akke's Axe he played, was it yesterday against Sigma? There was no farming there. He "farmed" himself tranq boots and then he was off harassing mid and helped getting kills. You know, stuff that the 4-position should be doing, helping position 1-3 (most importantly 1-2) win their lanes. In pubs you'll be damn happy if that 4-position Axe leaves jungle before vanguard. And even Enigmas/Enchantresses and similar junglers will often sit in their jungle to get some early game item over helping their team in pubs. And then I havent mentioned the Doom/Naix/LC junglers... | ||
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idonthinksobro
3138 Posts
have a 4 stack on my team spanish? or something tell them i want to lane, any lane really they pick another 3 carrys and tell me to jungle, bara mid vs ta whatever lets have a slow and boring jungle not accomplishing anything fast forward 25-30 minutes i have bkb, ac, basher,phase boots, midas, tp "doom get refresher" wtf is wrong with these people. | ||
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