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Please remember that while this thread is for QQ and venting about the game, racism is not tolerated here on LD.
Talron
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany7651 Posts
September 09 2012 18:21 GMT
#2761
Just had another game, that proves, that you should never really play as a committed support in pubgames. Playing Lina, had Wand+AB finished 26 mins in, while permanently buying sentrys+wards & smoke due to enemy having gondar, yet everyone get's murdered like there's no tomorrow.
EHOME 2010 never forget EHOME.GIGABYTE.AAA B-God In BurNing we trust BurNing your soul DK 2011-2014
LoveKillsSlowly
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia53 Posts
September 09 2012 19:34 GMT
#2762
On September 10 2012 03:21 Talron wrote:
Just had another game, that proves, that you should never really play as a committed support in pubgames. Playing Lina, had Wand+AB finished 26 mins in, while permanently buying sentrys+wards & smoke due to enemy having gondar, yet everyone get's murdered like there's no tomorrow.

I usually try to play a committed support in pubs when I solo-queue, but it can get awfully annoying when you are doing your role to the best of your ability and still can't change the tide of the game because your carries and other team-mates aren't up to scratch.

Then again, on the other side of the spectrum; you try to play a carry role to more-often-than-not get no supports. Such is the life of the solo-queuer.
I've got the jukes like Jagger.
Souone
Profile Joined July 2012
Brazil470 Posts
September 09 2012 19:40 GMT
#2763
Randoming is the only way to go, here is why: I used to wait for people to pick and ended up playing hard support ( or long lane solo sometimes ) like 90% of the games, if your team is any decent, specially the carry, it's a nice role, but it's awfully frustrating to hard support for a retard carry.

After a while I gave up, now I just first random every game because if you wait for people to pick you are always gonna end up in those roles and it gets old after a while, and if you pick something fast you might force someone to play something they don't want to ... So ... Random FTW. And if the team comp is really bad I just repick, but that doesn't happen that often.
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
September 10 2012 01:36 GMT
#2764
On September 10 2012 03:21 Talron wrote:
Just had another game, that proves, that you should never really play as a committed support in pubgames. Playing Lina, had Wand+AB finished 26 mins in, while permanently buying sentrys+wards & smoke due to enemy having gondar, yet everyone get's murdered like there's no tomorrow.

Proven beyond all reasonable doubt for sure!
iokke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1179 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-10 02:32:55
September 10 2012 02:28 GMT
#2765
For the love of God please implement the surrender option with stiff requirements. Make it so that all 5 have to agree to surrender, or even 5 + 1 from another team. Set a time limit. Anything, but being down 5-35, behind 5+ towers, and wasting 20 mins while the opponents drag it out to roflstomp to feed their ego is no fun. That's my QQ, otherwise the game is fun;)
Crop circles are Chuck Norris' way of telling the world that sometimes corn needs to lie the f*** down. rerereredit.. I never get it right the 1st time
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-10 02:39:26
September 10 2012 02:39 GMT
#2766
Quality game today with a 3 kill clinkz who let QoP destroy everybody without ever once calling SS. Must be embarrassing to be outcarried by Gyrocopter.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
September 10 2012 02:42 GMT
#2767
On September 10 2012 02:20 how2TL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2012 17:06 LoveKillsSlowly wrote:
On September 09 2012 15:31 rob.au wrote:
Not sure why you would turn to randoming to increase your repertoire, could just pick different heroes and actually play them more than once. So annoying for me to see people random, feels like so many games are decided by how bad the hero they random is or how bad they are at that hero.

IceFrog told GabeN to random every game as he was beginning to learn Dota2...


Maybe just randomly pick a hero instead of using the random function?

I never understood how you get better if you start with 250 extra gold all the time.

pretty much this. I really dislike the whole "Random heroes so you can learn!"

I've seen so many new people random and spend their money on a full bracer or boot + tango.

I honestly suggest new players to look at vods or just try bot games by themselves :/ Atleast if you have a hero you somewhat like you can probably find another hero just like him
dats racist
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
September 10 2012 03:09 GMT
#2768
Ok, its SD. We have a decent laning comp against a team fight oriented comp. We can easily win our lanes, and as long as we disable their nukers in the fight, we got this. So, we win all our lanes, and come out ahead. But WTF team? We couldn't even win a single teamfight for the life of us. We had the coordination, and the correct engagements, but wtf they come out on top always...
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
how2TL
Profile Joined August 2010
1197 Posts
September 10 2012 03:41 GMT
#2769
get matched with an obvious 4stack

pick gondar.

"dont pick gondar"

go 1v2 vs pugna and shadow shaman with sentries

dont die and start with wards.

get 2 kills as soon as invoker decides to come bot with track gold

get 3 more track kills before 15 minutes.

be the only one to buy wards on the team with a lion on it

lose anyway =[ but with positive kd

mfw the entire 4stack spend the entire game shittalking me for every little thing just because they need someone to vent on

"when someone tells you not to pick gondar..." at the end like they know anything.

fuckfuckfuck
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
September 10 2012 04:03 GMT
#2770
On September 09 2012 20:23 Xinder wrote:
I wish I could figure out how to get good enough to be above 50% winrate, maybe eventually get in queues w/ pros. I dunno. I can't seem to win games. I'm sure a portion of it is what I do, postioning and what not. I just can't figure out if the best bet is to wait til most of my team picks and pick accordingly, or just first pick someone who could potentially win the game by themselves. Like TA, SS, QoP, etc. right now i'm at like 10 games below 50% and I seem to always stay there. I've made it above 50% like once or twice.


If you provide replay numbers people can analyze the game
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
September 10 2012 05:31 GMT
#2771
On September 10 2012 13:03 FinestHour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2012 20:23 Xinder wrote:
I wish I could figure out how to get good enough to be above 50% winrate, maybe eventually get in queues w/ pros. I dunno. I can't seem to win games. I'm sure a portion of it is what I do, postioning and what not. I just can't figure out if the best bet is to wait til most of my team picks and pick accordingly, or just first pick someone who could potentially win the game by themselves. Like TA, SS, QoP, etc. right now i'm at like 10 games below 50% and I seem to always stay there. I've made it above 50% like once or twice.


If you provide replay numbers people can analyze the game


Keep picking Lycan.

In all seriousness its not that hard to get to 50% wr. Just find someone to duo queue with
Dear Sixsmith...
Entertaining
Profile Joined September 2007
Canada793 Posts
September 10 2012 05:58 GMT
#2772
On September 10 2012 12:09 amazingxkcd wrote:
Ok, its SD. We have a decent laning comp against a team fight oriented comp. We can easily win our lanes, and as long as we disable their nukers in the fight, we got this. So, we win all our lanes, and come out ahead. But WTF team? We couldn't even win a single teamfight for the life of us. We had the coordination, and the correct engagements, but wtf they come out on top always...


some teams (usually ones with tidehunter + another teamfighter) on them you literally cant engage 5v5. this is where you gotta learn how to split push. split pushing in pubs is near impossible tho, so a way around this is to sneak roshan or smoke gank.
rob.au
Profile Joined May 2010
1087 Posts
September 10 2012 12:04 GMT
#2773
Those pudges that go mid so they can roam all game and hope they get fed....only they don't get fed and end up with no gold while other team has free farmed mid. Happens far too often!
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
September 10 2012 12:16 GMT
#2774
On September 10 2012 21:04 rob.au wrote:
Those pudges that go mid so they can roam all game and hope they get fed....only they don't get fed and end up with no gold while other team has free farmed mid. Happens far too often!

thats the role of a pudge tho.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
skipgamer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia701 Posts
September 10 2012 13:29 GMT
#2775
There's no dota2 love thread so this will have to do...

I fucking love this game! Even as support the amount of compliments I've been getting, even with shitty KD ratio's like you get as support ... People have been totally cool lately... It's like there's a new understanding amongst the general playerbase of the roles and expectations since TI2...

fucking <3 dota2
<3 TL
<3 joindota
<3 you all

<3...
LoveKillsSlowly
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia53 Posts
September 10 2012 13:31 GMT
#2776
On September 10 2012 22:29 skipgamer wrote:
There's no dota2 love thread so this will have to do...

I fucking love this game! Even as support the amount of compliments I've been getting, even with shitty KD ratio's like you get as support ... People have been totally cool lately... It's like there's a new understanding amongst the general playerbase of the roles and expectations since TI2...

fucking <3 dota2
<3 TL
<3 joindota
<3 you all

<3...

L2QQ NOOB! Just kidding. I agree, the game is awesome
I've got the jukes like Jagger.
Glurkenspurk
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1915 Posts
September 10 2012 14:18 GMT
#2777
Just played a game as AM where our storm spirit would literally ult across the map to steal my farm whenever I was free farming. I can't even put into words how much I hate playing a carry in pubs. It is impossible to farm. It feels like 9 other people are doing literally everything that can to prevent you from farming just so they can whine "fking magina nevr temfite."
heishe
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany2284 Posts
September 10 2012 14:34 GMT
#2778
On September 10 2012 12:41 how2TL wrote:
get matched with an obvious 4stack

pick gondar.

"dont pick gondar"

go 1v2 vs pugna and shadow shaman with sentries

dont die and start with wards.

get 2 kills as soon as invoker decides to come bot with track gold

get 3 more track kills before 15 minutes.

be the only one to buy wards on the team with a lion on it

lose anyway =[ but with positive kd

mfw the entire 4stack spend the entire game shittalking me for every little thing just because they need someone to vent on

"when someone tells you not to pick gondar..." at the end like they know anything.

fuckfuckfuck


It's terrible. This game is so full of people who think they're pretty good and everyone else is shit. It's really weird. Everytime someone shittalks someone else I just say "Stop flaming. You're terrible. We all are, otherwise we wouldn't play together".

On the other hand in 100 games I haven't seen anyone whine about balance, even though there are probably some really big imbalances in this game (I can't imagine that it's possible to perfectly balance out the number of combinations with this many heroes).
If you value your soul, never look into the eye of a horse. Your soul will forever be lost in the void of the horse.
heishe
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany2284 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-10 14:37:37
September 10 2012 14:36 GMT
#2779
On September 10 2012 21:16 Erasme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 21:04 rob.au wrote:
Those pudges that go mid so they can roam all game and hope they get fed....only they don't get fed and end up with no gold while other team has free farmed mid. Happens far too often!

thats the role of a pudge tho.


Why do they go mid in the first place then? I've always wondered this. Doesn't seem to have any point to me. Imo they would be pretty sick in lane, esp. in pubs when it's so easy to catch people off guard by just waiting behind the trees for 20 seconds until someone goes out of position.

edit: Oops, didn't realize I was about to double-post. Sorry.
If you value your soul, never look into the eye of a horse. Your soul will forever be lost in the void of the horse.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
September 10 2012 14:43 GMT
#2780
Pudge mid is for quick levels. In the professional games, sans Dendi-Pudge, most Pudge players have been babysat on safe lane.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
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