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On September 10 2012 23:34 heishe wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2012 12:41 how2TL wrote:
get matched with an obvious 4stack
pick gondar.
"dont pick gondar"
go 1v2 vs pugna and shadow shaman with sentries
dont die and start with wards.
get 2 kills as soon as invoker decides to come bot with track gold
get 3 more track kills before 15 minutes.
be the only one to buy wards on the team with a lion on it
lose anyway =[ but with positive kd
mfw the entire 4stack spend the entire game shittalking me for every little thing just because they need someone to vent on
"when someone tells you not to pick gondar..." at the end like they know anything.
fuckfuckfuck It's terrible. This game is so full of people who think they're pretty good and everyone else is shit. It's really weird. Everytime someone shittalks someone else I just say "Stop flaming. You're terrible. We all are, otherwise we wouldn't play together". On the other hand in 100 games I haven't seen anyone whine about balance, even though there are probably some really big imbalances in this game (I can't imagine that it's possible to perfectly balance out the number of combinations with this many heroes).
I've seen morphling and pudge balance whine at lower levels :3
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On September 10 2012 14:58 Entertaining wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2012 12:09 amazingxkcd wrote:
Ok, its SD. We have a decent laning comp against a team fight oriented comp. We can easily win our lanes, and as long as we disable their nukers in the fight, we got this. So, we win all our lanes, and come out ahead. But WTF team? We couldn't even win a single teamfight for the life of us. We had the coordination, and the correct engagements, but wtf they come out on top always... some teams (usually ones with tidehunter + another teamfighter) on them you literally cant engage 5v5. this is where you gotta learn how to split push. split pushing in pubs is near impossible tho, so a way around this is to sneak roshan or smoke gank.
We tried that in the end, but the advantage they accumalated from teamfights was just too much. Their comp was brood, veno, crsytal maiden, am, and lifestealer. We had chaos knight (me), ursa, PA, necro (who was a baws that game), and Lina. our team had fantastic farm, but fuck that crystal maiden and veno, landing money ults every single time
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On September 10 2012 23:36 heishe wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2012 21:16 Erasme wrote:On September 10 2012 21:04 rob.au wrote:
Those pudges that go mid so they can roam all game and hope they get fed....only they don't get fed and end up with no gold while other team has free farmed mid. Happens far too often! thats the role of a pudge tho. Why do they go mid in the first place then? I've always wondered this. Doesn't seem to have any point to me. Imo they would be pretty sick in lane, esp. in pubs when it's so easy to catch people off guard by just waiting behind the trees for 20 seconds until someone goes out of position. edit: Oops, didn't realize I was about to double-post. Sorry.
as fw said, quick levels + bottle. You don't really need more, when you starts ganking at 6, you tell your team so someone can take farm/xp mid lane.
And against a team wombo combo, just pick panda.
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Not really qq, because we did eventually win the game but anyway..no one goes mid, TA is to scared to face drow..and asks me (sven) to move from top to mid...and bs and TA go top. anyway..drow ultimately ended up disconnecting quite often giving me easy farm/kills..and at about 25 minutes, we're at about 20-6, and only top t2 tower standing . And the game drags on for 1 whole bloody hour..because the other dont want to push and are eternally scared. sk on the other hand wants to farm every item in the game before the push to take the rax...finally after some persuasion and faking leaving in 10 mintues..they push and end the game.
Kinda like playing on the eu server because of this..people tend to finish games faster, and are more aggressive though a bit more bm,while on sea at times they end up farming forever...and we've lost gams we should've never because the opposite team were full of carries who then farmed up themselves and did one big doom push.
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So a little SELF QQ. I can't stop committing to fights my team can win.
I know thats not a bad habit. but in pubs. it's an atrocious habit. NO ONE commits, so my commital is just a death sentence.
every other game i play is high skill bracket now (finally played enough games to upgrade) and i commit to the fights and get a score like 6-10-7 when i started 6-1-2 because one person on my team initiates a 5v4, i jump in do my shit, then die horribly while my team walks around the edge trying not to be touched by anything.
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On September 11 2012 02:39 PrinceXizor wrote:
So a little SELF QQ. I can't stop committing to fights my team can win.
I know thats not a bad habit. but in pubs. it's an atrocious habit. NO ONE commits, so my commital is just a death sentence.
every other game i play is high skill bracket now (finally played enough games to upgrade) and i commit to the fights and get a score like 6-10-7 when i started 6-1-2 because one person on my team initiates a 5v4, i jump in do my shit, then die horribly while my team walks around the edge trying not to be touched by anything.
I know that feeling  . Played a game as storm, a hero I'm not super good with; started off 3-0 after I got a solo kill mid and set up a two kill gank in our hard lane. Didn't have amazing farm but started off well. I slowly started to falter in my K/D as I made the bad decision over and over to jump into a fight first as an underfarmed (read: didn't have a bloodstone or an orchid yet) storm and got exploded every time.
Finished poorly, but at least I know I won't be making that same mistake again .
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On September 11 2012 02:39 PrinceXizor wrote:
So a little SELF QQ. I can't stop committing to fights my team can win.
I know thats not a bad habit. but in pubs. it's an atrocious habit. NO ONE commits, so my commital is just a death sentence.
every other game i play is high skill bracket now (finally played enough games to upgrade) and i commit to the fights and get a score like 6-10-7 when i started 6-1-2 because one person on my team initiates a 5v4, i jump in do my shit, then die horribly while my team walks around the edge trying not to be touched by anything.
Oh man, I know how that goes. I really like to play Nature's Prophet, but I try to avoid being one of those awful pug Furions who just afk farms in the jungle and blindly uses his ult every time its up just to get some more farm. So, I try to be useful and teleport around to gank, use my ult to damage enemy heros, etc...but what happens a lot is, I teleport in wayyyy to early / far and end up dieing before I can actually do anything other than absorb damage. >_<
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I dunno what i'm whining about is when it's time to team fight they act like they want to fight. and then.... run away as soon as i jump in. so when i'm doing my whole fight thing they are running and i end up 1v3 or something when it was a 5v3 before. pubs see MORE THAN ONE hero and run as a group away no matter the number. makes it impossible to play well without escape heroes. also makes playing tide/SK/ect useless since they you know, have to commit.
but i'm dumb enough to trust them to fight when they you know have an advantage.
played a game to try to get back to high. hard lane solo. i can't fuck this up it's SK vs void/cm hard for me but i can easily do it with camping and smart play.
give up FB because i fuck up once about 6 minutes in. then SS comes. pushes lane instantly dies. leoric comes, pushes lane instantly dies twice, gives void 6 void jumps tower on me and kills me.
T_T i was 20 for 10, 10 minutes in which is super good given the lane.. (vs double and multi camp pulling cm and void). but the 15 deaths and 1 kill of my team at 10 minutes too much to overcome in addition to SS and SK seemingly intentionally feeding lane.
and my MMR gets hurt because of it....
sometimes i just hate this game.
EDIT 2: LOL and then sometimes games like the last one. 5 randoms on my team i random Dark seer and we have clinkz BH Riki PL. the riki and PL repick into enigma and shadow demon... and everyone couldn't be more helpful. great teammates everyone nice no rage... and we win easily. then stay 10 minutes to talk about life and thank everyone post game..
it's striking that the bad games there are HoN and LoL references throughout, and the good games everyone mentions dota 1... lol
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Just played alongside an Axe who is probably the worst player I've seen - not only was he busy trying to trade/sell items during the match; I had Pudge and went mid, doing my best Dendi impression. For some reason, Axe went down to the T2 mid tower, and started pulling all the creeps. Wave, after wave. I think 4 in total. So I was then 2.5 levels behind the Death Prophet in my lane, and also had little-to-no gold.
Actually so raged right now. When I asked why, he said "reason" and that's it.
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On September 11 2012 11:05 Duckvillelol wrote:
Just played alongside an Axe who is probably the worst player I've seen - not only was he busy trying to trade/sell items during the match; I had Pudge and went mid, doing my best Dendi impression. For some reason, Axe went down to the T2 mid tower, and started pulling all the creeps. Wave, after wave. I think 4 in total. So I was then 2.5 levels behind the Death Prophet in my lane, and also had little-to-no gold.
Actually so raged right now. When I asked why, he said "reason" and that's it.
I really, really don't understand why noob pub axe loves to go between T1/2 towers to pull creeps. They get easily owned when heroes start spamming a few spells on them, or when ranged heroes start right clicking. Worse still, they keep doing it even after dying multiple times and getting severely underleveled.
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On September 11 2012 11:23 Heh_ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2012 11:05 Duckvillelol wrote:
Just played alongside an Axe who is probably the worst player I've seen - not only was he busy trying to trade/sell items during the match; I had Pudge and went mid, doing my best Dendi impression. For some reason, Axe went down to the T2 mid tower, and started pulling all the creeps. Wave, after wave. I think 4 in total. So I was then 2.5 levels behind the Death Prophet in my lane, and also had little-to-no gold.
Actually so raged right now. When I asked why, he said "reason" and that's it. I really, really don't understand why noob pub axe loves to go between T1/2 towers to pull creeps. They get easily owned when heroes start spamming a few spells on them, or when ranged heroes start right clicking. Worse still, they keep doing it even after dying multiple times and getting severely underleveled.
To some extent the "between t1/t2" thing has merit, to try and deny level/gold to a hero (though because most pub people are idiots, they don't know that's the benefit of it, they just like to be dicks) - but this guy I was with... was essentially pulling creeps from t2/t3 base tower, from BOTH mid and bot! I was absolutely flabbergasted, it was the worst thing I've ever seen someone do.
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hooooly shit this DK
so i 3 man party with another random 2 man party
so DK solo top, ok seems to be legit. 2 min: FIRST BLOOD. ok its just one kill its ok. 10 min in: 0-5, his lane is pretty fuckign fed and begins roaming around the map
~.~ acc to replay i had highest farm mid luna up until like 20 min
DK starts complaining. he tells us that we have to push, and that we have to help. we try explaining to them that its a fucking TINKER on their team and we cant fucking catch up to tinker. he complains that 3 times ganked by 4 (not true), and we suggest helpfully "ward." 0-4 nat prophet starts backing his buddy, now 0-8-1 up and saying that its our fault, me mid and friends duo bot together who together have an even score.
we tell him to stop being pulled by pudge "i dodged like 3-4 pudge hooks!" ok GOOD FOR YOU
calls us game ruiners when he's 0-11-2, tells us that we are kids and retards and bets we will lose every game
on the other hand holy shit luna ult is big
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On September 11 2012 11:51 Duckvillelol wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2012 11:23 Heh_ wrote:On September 11 2012 11:05 Duckvillelol wrote:
Just played alongside an Axe who is probably the worst player I've seen - not only was he busy trying to trade/sell items during the match; I had Pudge and went mid, doing my best Dendi impression. For some reason, Axe went down to the T2 mid tower, and started pulling all the creeps. Wave, after wave. I think 4 in total. So I was then 2.5 levels behind the Death Prophet in my lane, and also had little-to-no gold.
Actually so raged right now. When I asked why, he said "reason" and that's it. I really, really don't understand why noob pub axe loves to go between T1/2 towers to pull creeps. They get easily owned when heroes start spamming a few spells on them, or when ranged heroes start right clicking. Worse still, they keep doing it even after dying multiple times and getting severely underleveled. To some extent the "between t1/t2" thing has merit, to try and deny level/gold to a hero (though because most pub people are idiots, they don't know that's the benefit of it, they just like to be dicks) - but this guy I was with... was essentially pulling creeps from t2/t3 base tower, from BOTH mid and bot! I was absolutely flabbergasted, it was the worst thing I've ever seen someone do.
yeah but have you ever seen an axe, a huskar, and a venomancer all do it together???
Match: 39770515
and enjoy -.- and yeah i was the fun Ender (very poorly last hitting)
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I babysit SB as Rubick like legitimately well. Pull creeps properly, stack camps, buy wards, so good.
Everyone wins their lane (waaaaaaaaa~?).
mid game goes great. Highlight for me was saving a stolen stealing chronosphere to save 3 while trapping 4 of them then stealing poison nova for a massive team wipe. i so dendi now.
after that though... our gyro and bloodseeker start going across the river by themselves and starting bad fights. everyone else tries to save.
we lose like 5 straight fights, not too badly, but still losing them.
mfw we try to smoke gank for someone to pop the illusion rune
they see us. we lose.
fuck
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Can someone explain to me why there are so many Russians on the EU server? Every single one of my friends (we were about 8 who got the dota 2 beta and played a lot) have now either stopped playing entirely or only plays if we're a full group with the sole reason of that I kid you not, the majority of players on the EU servers are Russians who don't speak a word of English apart from "i fak you mam" XAXAXAXAXAXAXAXA"
Does anyone know why this is? Why are there so many Russians on the European server instead of on their own? What's going on?
I really like dota 2, and I would love to keep playing dota, but honestly they need to enforce the server nationalities (like WoL) because this just doesn't work.
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On September 11 2012 13:46 Euronyme wrote:
Can someone explain to me why there are so many Russians on the EU server? Every single one of my friends (we were about 8 who got the dota 2 beta and played a lot) have now either stopped playing entirely or only plays if we're a full group with the sole reason of that I kid you not, the majority of players on the EU servers are Russians who don't speak a word of English apart from "i fak you mam" XAXAXAXAXAXAXAXA"
Does anyone know why this is? Why are there so many Russians on the European server instead of on their own? What's going on?
I really like dota 2, and I would love to keep playing dota, but honestly they need to enforce the server nationalities (like WoL) because this just doesn't work.
Im guessing they just don't care and probably queue on both euro and russia for shorter queue times.
Got screwed by MMR. 2 games in a row where the opposing team were clearly MUCH better than us. Waste of time just getting owned then fountain camped till creeps finally kill the throne.
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fountain camping is the reason i hate that the MMR judges from your "performance" in game.
if you are carrying your team but only 7-0-5 and your team loses badly like 12-30 or somethign atrocious, they will camp the fountain for up to 10 minutes killing you and there is nothing you can do but see your 7-0 go to 7-12 in 10 minutes of fountain dives :/
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On September 10 2012 23:34 heishe wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2012 12:41 how2TL wrote:
get matched with an obvious 4stack
pick gondar.
"dont pick gondar"
go 1v2 vs pugna and shadow shaman with sentries
dont die and start with wards.
get 2 kills as soon as invoker decides to come bot with track gold
get 3 more track kills before 15 minutes.
be the only one to buy wards on the team with a lion on it
lose anyway =[ but with positive kd
mfw the entire 4stack spend the entire game shittalking me for every little thing just because they need someone to vent on
"when someone tells you not to pick gondar..." at the end like they know anything.
fuckfuckfuck I just say "Stop flaming. You're terrible. We all are, otherwise we wouldn't play together".
im gonna use this line from now on 
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I don't get the point of fountain camping
it seems like the epitome of BM to fountain camp a team if the game isn't ending in seconds afterwards
I mean...you won, grats, you have the bigger numbers now - end the game and let's move on
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On September 11 2012 15:18 PrinceXizor wrote:
fountain camping is the reason i hate that the MMR judges from your "performance" in game.
if you are carrying your team but only 7-0-5 and your team loses badly like 12-30 or somethign atrocious, they will camp the fountain for up to 10 minutes killing you and there is nothing you can do but see your 7-0 go to 7-12 in 10 minutes of fountain dives :/
Get a quelling blade and start a deforestation campaign.
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