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On September 08 2012 01:57 BlitzerSC wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2012 01:31 MotherOfRunes wrote:On September 08 2012 01:02 BlitzerSC wrote:
GG just lost another game. PA on the opposing team disconnects and abandon putting us in a 5 vs 4 situation and guess what, our bot lane ( consisting of Clinkz and Omniknight, who were both russian ) disconnect leaving us 3 vs 4 and losing us a game that was otherwise won. Nice. lol....those 2 guys just rather play a real game like real men instead of cheap 4vs5 wins . you need your wins that badly? AND OFC THEY ARE RUSSIAN......seems like in this situation the russians had the bigger balls over italy....stop your retarded blind hatred vs russians LOL ARE YOU KIDDING ME ? Those 2 russians kept unpausing the game instead of waiting for PA to reconnect and, after they got raped pretty hard in bot lane, they left. I guess I'm the bad guy now, since I waited for PA to reconnect instead of spamming the unpause button like the two russians did. edit: Stop being a jerk btw. Show nested quote +On September 08 2012 01:36 aintz wrote:On September 08 2012 01:02 BlitzerSC wrote:
GG just lost another game. PA on the opposing team disconnects and abandon putting us in a 5 vs 4 situation and guess what, our bot lane ( consisting of Clinkz and Omniknight, who were both russian ) disconnect leaving us 3 vs 4 and losing us a game that was otherwise won. Nice. i wouldnt blame them. i wouldve left too, i dont play 5v4s. Yeah sure you would have left a won game 5vs4.
i left a won 5v5 game (only once because i dont like abandons but i had to leave for my friends house)
i dont really care about wins, if i really cared about wins i wouldnt be playing with my friends who are terrible, he gets crit on everysingle hero (66 of my 144 games was with him lol still have above 50% winrate)
and i dont ever stay in 5v4 because they are safe to leave and you wont get an abandon.
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FYI not all the games are safe to leave, in fact my game wasn't.
edit: Also I love how you point out that you don't care about wins, but you make sure to post that you have a 50% winrate ^^
Stop being the whiteknight of the situation. This is the QQ thread, if you don't like to QQ don't post here. It's simple as that.
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i thought when 1 person disconnect for good (like4-5mins) the game is safe to leave for everyone. i wasnt trying to argue with you, i was just saying i dont blame ppl for leaving 5v4s. but if they fed then left clearly they are retarded.
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If someone leaves and abandons, which is what was on the first post, every single time it should be safe to leave. It only shouldn't happen if the person disconnects and the required time hasn't passed. Anything else is an issue with the system, if it actually happens. I've had games that were safe to leave because the person abandoned it straight away and games that took 5 mins to be safe because the persons disconnected/pulled the plug but didn't abandon, but I've never had a game that was stuck on "unsafe to leave", if it happens it should be a rare bug and should probally be reported.
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stop giving me fucking shit noobs stupid search function holy fuck im pissed
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DotA uses so much bandwidth TT
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I'm 1-7 in my last 8 games now ;; Went from 55% winrate to below 52%. In my last game Pudge lost mid to AM. PA doesn't farm despite the fact that we have 5 out of 6 of their outer towers, 10 kill lead and complete map control. Maybe if I throw my next 10 matches and get a 50% winrate then I'll get some fair games. 
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Sigh Potm + DS losing to OM + PA. FFS how does Dark Seer lose to melee heroes with fucking ion shell. And solo mid luna who went Aghs + Refresher, guess how that turned out -.-
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On September 08 2012 02:16 aintz wrote:
i thought when 1 person disconnect for good (like4-5mins) the game is safe to leave for everyone. i wasnt trying to argue with you, i was just saying i dont blame ppl for leaving 5v4s. but if they fed then left clearly they are retarded.
You just don't ever leave the game right away when someone dc for 5mins and a No stat is recorded showed up. Why? Because the 'leaver' often reconnect again after a few mins (which happened in that game i was with blitz). Thus these two russian guys (omni+bone) gave us an autolose game. It is not too hard to guess that these guys left because they fcked up their lane/didnt own the game as they wanted.
I have never seen anyone do 'balance leave' in dota2, i have done it a million times in dota1 since i really dont give a damn (no record no whatsoever). If the leaver in oppo team left early and no stat is recorded, the oppo team will most certainly leave the game first before we did; if the leaver left after 10mins or something, stats will be recorded, both team will stay and play til the end or the oppo team will just leave eventually unless they own the game very hard 4v5.
Long story short, QQ thread is for QQ.
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I just lost a game because Naga Siren + Shadow Demon lost their lane against solo Jakiro. I am not even sure what is going on.
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AM vs Shadow shaman and leshrac, he gets blink at lvl 3 and manages to die twice before that. Where is the logic in that?
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Solo AM even with blink would die to that lane. Not having blink didn't helped obviously.
I just lost a game because Naga Siren + Shadow Demon lost their lane against solo Jakiro
Only way i can imagine this to happen is that they were way to agressive with trying to get kills on him, but even that is hard actually visualize.
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People failing just as much as you, but singling you out. I played with a 4-stack of Pakistanis (they kept sayig benchod a lot) where I instapicked Tinker who I wanted to play, some other guy calls mid first though and picks Morphling. The other three choose Broodmother, Leshrac and a jungle hero who I don't recall. Brood and Lesh go top, while I take suicide lane. Morph loses mid to BH. Throughout all this time I get shit talked every time I die, and the Morph tries to intellectualize the game and make excuses for why he lost mid. Newsflash: this is a fucking pub and if you get owned, its mostly your fault, especially if you roll with a fucking 4-stack. I also had no idea why Brood went safe lane.
Invoker with a shadowblade. Uncooperative Russian. He did own for a while, until teamfights started happening and he didn't have scepter to spam his spells. During that time, the only thing you can do with Lothars is stick it up your ass.
Me going Void. I had good early game farm (for a pub), with treads, wand, bfury at 20 mins. The game is an evenly fought contest by two competent teams and until the key battle at around 50 mins where I timewalk in to catch Enigma (who had been getting some crazy holes off all game and really was the sole cause of us losing teamfights). Just as I issue the command for chrono... Enigma blinks out. Our team proceeds to get raped. Raxes and then the throne fall and all hell breaks loose as I get qq'ed by the whole team in many different and colourful languages. I even qq'ed at myself.
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Just finished match of sd, we had 4 carries and this one carry started to whine how he didnt get any kills and how he was more important than others, just to make his point he stopped team play and just farmed jungle, we almost won with out him, but cuz he was being such a childish dick we lost the game.
Another rant, I fucking hate it when ppl dc right at start and come back like 4 minutes and 45 secs later back, they are like level 1 against level 4 enemies on lane and usually just get stomped, the safe leave time should be much smaller at start of the game, at situations like that where level 1 guy feeds his lane opponents who already got level advantage are so stupidly hard to win, seriously you cant be away for 5 minutes in game like dota and then think you can do some awesome come back and win in pub games where there is minimal ammount of communication.
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On September 07 2012 19:06 Narw wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2012 18:46 Aui_2000 wrote:On September 07 2012 16:21 Narw wrote:On September 07 2012 00:57 TRAP[yoo] wrote:
i hate people that keep talking about others instead of getting better themselves Yeah mate, i should just focus on improving myself when i end in team with riki going for MoM (before boots) and 3 wraith bands build, while his Russian budy (same stack, suprise suprise) Tinker takes mid, lose it HARDCORE to Nyx (how is that even possible) never gets travel and is being shit all game. Yeah, mate, i will just focus on getting better k? yeah that's exactly what you should do if you want to get good I just described you scenario in which i found myself, like 2-3 posts above. I want to get advice from you on what should i focus during that game to get better. (game where i went slardar). Scores were 0-14-4 on lich, 4-16-4 on morp 6-6-2 Invoker, 0-9-3 tiny, 1-5-2 me (2 deaths in fountain if you courius). For a second i will ignore the fact that assumption that i don't get better couse i am able to see trash decisions of other players and write about is well... trash.
Well dota2 can be pretty frustrating and sometimes there are games that you cannot win because of your allies--I mean I play with fogged and solace and sometimes they just go rapier first item :D. However I also think that some of the best skills (and often very important) can be learned from when you have to play from behind. For example, learning to pick off people that overextend, how to position with less items, how to farm with little map control, etc.
It is actually sort of sad because a lot of DotA players in both the pub and competitive scene tend to just give up out of habit when they're behind, which leads to a lot of negativity/chain feeding by them because they stopped caring about the game (a reason why I am against a forfeit option, but that's for another discussion). As a result, a lot of games that could potentially have been extraordinary instead become absurdly one-sided. Perhaps sometimes your team is just throwing, but I still think there's always stuff you can improve on if you just focus on your own game. Oh and I think one of the best indicators of improvement/skill--something that is normally really hard to measure in dota--is when your team is losing heavily, but you can still maintain a good score/cs.
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On September 08 2012 15:15 writer22816 wrote:In my last game Pudge lost mid to AM.
I know you mentioned other stuff but for stuff like this it really sucks when you are the Pudge as well. Sometimes everyone else in the game is significantly better than you and it sucks for us too. I say this as someone that has played ~50 games and got matched in one game where everyone had >250 wins. I felt so awful and I know I hurt my team and lost a lane (don't remember which one) that I shouldn't have. It doesn't happen often but unless you are one of the absolute top players in the game it will always be possible to get matched into a game where the opponent absolutely outclasses you.
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On September 09 2012 02:32 Aui_2000 wrote:
It is actually sort of sad because a lot of DotA players in both the pub and competitive scene tend to just give up out of habit when they're behind, which leads to a lot of negativity/chain feeding by them because they stopped caring about the game (a reason why I am against a forfeit option, but that's for another discussion). As a result, a lot of games that could potentially have been extraordinary instead become absurdly one-sided. Perhaps sometimes your team is just throwing, but I still think there's always stuff you can improve on if you just focus on your own game. Oh and I think one of the best indicators of improvement/skill--something that is normally really hard to measure in dota--is when your team is losing heavily, but you can still maintain a good score/cs.
This is so true. Just yesterday I was playing a game where my team tri-laned safe lane (against 2 + jungle furion) and at like 4 min they went 0-2 on the tri-lane and were all like "this game is over we lost the tri-lane" and cried about how the game was lost for like 30 min, even thought we had a much better late game and a good turtling comp (DS mostly).
In the end we lost a rax at 20ish but still managed to turtle up to 70 min of game and won... And they all wanted to give up by the 5th minute because we lost the tri-lane.
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On September 09 2012 05:53 Souone wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2012 02:32 Aui_2000 wrote:
It is actually sort of sad because a lot of DotA players in both the pub and competitive scene tend to just give up out of habit when they're behind, which leads to a lot of negativity/chain feeding by them because they stopped caring about the game (a reason why I am against a forfeit option, but that's for another discussion). As a result, a lot of games that could potentially have been extraordinary instead become absurdly one-sided. Perhaps sometimes your team is just throwing, but I still think there's always stuff you can improve on if you just focus on your own game. Oh and I think one of the best indicators of improvement/skill--something that is normally really hard to measure in dota--is when your team is losing heavily, but you can still maintain a good score/cs. This is so true. Just yesterday I was playing a game where my team tri-laned safe lane (against 2 + jungle furion) and at like 4 min they went 0-2 on the tri-lane and were all like "this game is over we lost the tri-lane" and cried about how the game was lost for like 30 min, even thought we had a much better late game and a good turtling comp (DS mostly). In the end we lost a rax at 20ish but still managed to turtle up to 70 min of game and won... And they all wanted to give up by the 5th minute because we lost the tri-lane.
Meh, you have to admit though that a lot of this stuff kind of just happens because your opponents fuck up in some major ways along the way. And it's at that point where I really don't feel like playing the game anymore, if I can only win because the opponent fucks up a lot.
I instaquit games in SC2 like that as well (I don't do it in Dota 2 obviously, but I would if I could). It's like the equivalent of someone in SC2 owning you early game, then for some reason focusing 100% on micro and not doing any eco for 5 minutes, which enables you to come back. I don't want to practice for that kind of stuff, as it won't happen at high skill levels and that's the only thing that matters to me when I'm practicing for a competitive game.
Imo you could stay in that game for whatever reason, but I think it's better to get the game over quickly and find a new one where you can practice properly. It's not like when you leave a game the practice time is suddenly lost. No, you can just find a new game and practice there.
By the way I'm not saying everybody should do that, I'm just saying that leavers don't really deserve the hate.
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Tiny and Storm fed a solo huskar 4 times in 2 mins :O
I'm not even sure how that happened...Gotta download the replay and watch that.
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On September 09 2012 06:03 heishe wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2012 05:53 Souone wrote:On September 09 2012 02:32 Aui_2000 wrote:
It is actually sort of sad because a lot of DotA players in both the pub and competitive scene tend to just give up out of habit when they're behind, which leads to a lot of negativity/chain feeding by them because they stopped caring about the game (a reason why I am against a forfeit option, but that's for another discussion). As a result, a lot of games that could potentially have been extraordinary instead become absurdly one-sided. Perhaps sometimes your team is just throwing, but I still think there's always stuff you can improve on if you just focus on your own game. Oh and I think one of the best indicators of improvement/skill--something that is normally really hard to measure in dota--is when your team is losing heavily, but you can still maintain a good score/cs. This is so true. Just yesterday I was playing a game where my team tri-laned safe lane (against 2 + jungle furion) and at like 4 min they went 0-2 on the tri-lane and were all like "this game is over we lost the tri-lane" and cried about how the game was lost for like 30 min, even thought we had a much better late game and a good turtling comp (DS mostly). In the end we lost a rax at 20ish but still managed to turtle up to 70 min of game and won... And they all wanted to give up by the 5th minute because we lost the tri-lane. Meh, you have to admit though that a lot of this stuff kind of just happens because your opponents fuck up in some major ways along the way. And it's at that point where I really don't feel like playing the game anymore, if I can only win because the opponent fucks up a lot. I instaquit games in SC2 like that as well (I don't do it in Dota 2 obviously, but I would if I could). It's like the equivalent of someone in SC2 owning you early game, then for some reason focusing 100% on micro and not doing any eco for 5 minutes, which enables you to come back. I don't want to practice for that kind of stuff, as it won't happen at high skill levels and that's the only thing that matters to me when I'm practicing for a competitive game. Imo you could stay in that game for whatever reason, but I think it's better to get the game over quickly and find a new one where you can practice properly. It's not like when you leave a game the practice time is suddenly lost. No, you can just find a new game and practice there. By the way I'm not saying everybody should do that, I'm just saying that leavers don't really deserve the hate.
lol are you German Idra?
and where did that attitude get him?
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