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On September 05 2012 06:38 synapse wrote:
I usually pick whatever role my team needs (so that we don't get several stubborn solomids or hard carries). Lately I've been trying to random to learn more heroes, but people see my first pick and pick the same role anyway T_T
I even had a wisp tell me that he wanted to support when I randomed omni first....
I'm still quite noobish (Rank 1) but even before I started, I "challenged" myself, that most of the time I want to play support (Veno, crystal maiden, ...). Currently it seems that this is quite a good choice, because most games the rest of my team go antimage, bounty hunter, riki, ... so no surprise for me about "all solomids or hard carries"! I don't see anything else either!
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Pubs still haven't stopped picking Phantom Lancer, jesus christ.
I have yet to see a PL carry a game once. One just went 0-11-3 on my team, literally doing nothing except farming lanes and woods and dying repeatedly to a bounty hunter. He doesn't say a single word to us and just keeps on jungling and dying. And he keeps trying to go for radiance, ends up finally getting it at 42 minutes while we are being throned. The saddest thing was, I couldn't even get the 8 people in the game to report him. I asked everyone to report PL because he fed all game and didn't say a single word to his teammates. Enemy BH says "well you have 5 deaths too want me to report you?" /facepalm. It's like these idiots don't even want to have good games.
And what is wrong with people who just don't speak a single word to their teammates the entire game? I don't care if you speak in a foreign language that I can't understand. Just give me some sign that you're not a fucking gorilla. If you're just going to farm woods all game and never communicate with your teammates then why don't you fucking play Diablo or something.
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I hate the misconception that reporting is for use against feeders/ noobs or players who do not communicate with their team.
It is as far as I have understood meant to be used to report people with abusive attitudes that are for example heavily flaming, sexist or racist remarks towards other people in DotA 2. Or people obviously cheating etc.
Their ranking system takes care of the rest.
All this report "X" for random in game failure is really annoying.
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On September 05 2012 22:32 njt7 wrote:
I hate the misconception that reporting is for use against feeders/ noobs or players who do not communicate with their team.
It is as far as I have understood meant to be used to report people with abusive attitudes that are for example heavily flaming, sexist or racist remarks towards other people in DotA 2. Or people obviously cheating etc.
Their ranking system takes care of the rest.
All this report "X" for random in game failure is really annoying.
I normally don't report players just because they have a bad game. But if you have a player on your team who feeds AND ignores every attempt at communication, then that IMO deserves a report. Dota is a team game. If you blatantly don't give a shit about your team then how is that not a detrimental or abusive attitude towards the game?
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On September 05 2012 22:44 writer22816 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2012 22:32 njt7 wrote:
I hate the misconception that reporting is for use against feeders/ noobs or players who do not communicate with their team.
It is as far as I have understood meant to be used to report people with abusive attitudes that are for example heavily flaming, sexist or racist remarks towards other people in DotA 2. Or people obviously cheating etc.
Their ranking system takes care of the rest.
All this report "X" for random in game failure is really annoying. I normally don't report players just because they have a bad game. But if you have a player on your team who feeds AND ignores every attempt at communication, then that IMO deserves a report. Dota is a team game. If you blatantly don't give a shit about your team then how is that not a detrimental or abusive attitude towards the game?
It is a team game, but not communicating/indifference towards team-mates does not warrant a report. They could just be really, really goddamn awful at the game and don't understand the importance of communication nor their active participation in team fights. You can't really report a player just for being bad and not understanding the game.
Like njt7 said, the ranking and MMR system takes care of this. Bad players who don't communicate will exist, and they will mostly play among themselves. They will occasionally join higher skill games (like yours) and perform poorly, but it shouldn't be happening every game, right?
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Gotta say, if you don't understand the importance of communication or team fights in dota you should probably stick with playing against bots.
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On September 05 2012 10:07 SKC wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2012 09:11 LuckoftheIrish wrote:On September 05 2012 09:07 SKC wrote:On September 05 2012 08:45 LuckoftheIrish wrote:On September 05 2012 06:29 Heh_ wrote:On September 05 2012 05:35 LuckoftheIrish wrote:On September 04 2012 20:48 Firebolt145 wrote:On September 04 2012 18:21 LuckoftheIrish wrote:On September 04 2012 03:47 Sc1pio wrote:You'd think the Morphling play in TI2 would give people lots of examples how to play him, but I played a game where we had a morph who had yet to skill morph stats at level 20  . That sucks, but actually in a game where I'm not really under any pressure and can just sit and farm as much as I want, I only take 1 level of Morph and then stick with stats. Same idea as the Burning build, in a way. Of course, there's never any reason to skip Morph entirely for stats since Morph level 1 gives you more Strength and Agility than 1 level of stats. Wat, aren't you contradicting yourself here? As you said, each level of morph gives you more than stats itself, so why would you skip it? To be blunt, there is NEVER a situation where you should delay morph. Except maybe one level for adaptive strike for breaking channeling or tps against some line ups. No. The first level of Morph gives 3 agility and 3 strength. Each subsequent upgrade increases the bonus by 1. So from a static damage/HP perspective, level 1 Morph is superior to level 1 Stats, but level 2 Morph and above are equal or inferior to equal levels of stats. If you're just using your Morph to fine-tune your stats for laning, then the rate of change doesn't matter and level 1 is enough. Again, this is in a scenario when you have plenty of time and space to farm without having to worry about ganks or lane pressure. But you almost always want your morph skill to be maxed ASAP so you can change stats really quickly when getting ganked. Morphing into strength at 8/s compared to 2/s is often the difference between life and death. Totally true. I'm talking specifically about a situation in which your team has total map control and you can sit and farm without pressure of any sort. If you are not under any pressure you can just morph a little bit of agi and free farm just as easily. The only real bonus of stats is the survivability and the mana. Morph gives more survivability, so it's basically just the mana, and I don't think you will be spamming waveform that early anyway. You can do that with 1 level of Morph. If you're just sitting and farming a lane, it doesn't matter what your rate of exchange is. Why do you get stats exactly? To be able to last hit better? That's why I said you could just as easily morph some stats into agi. To survive better? Morph is better for that. To be able to get kills? If you are participating in fights, you probally could use Morph. To have more mana? That's the only thing I could see, but I don't really think it's really such a big deal. I just don't see the purpose of this build. It has a purpose for AM, but Morphling is really a diferent hero. It's not like it doesn't matter. You delay Adaptive strike until around level 13 and max it at level 17. You often could use it at least for the ministun, and if you are indeed freefarming it will already be useful before that.
Not to mention the fact that on morphling you are likely already building items that give him stats. Chances are, you are picking up a RoA, Treads (wand bottle), and your first core item is likely a linkens, EB (where you need max adaptive strike to be effective, usually the last thing you level and leveling stats delays this), Manta, or BkB (the least stats dependent item). Also, morph has good stat gain to begin with. It just doesn't make sense to put points in stats.
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My current Dota2 QQ would be that TI2 was amazing, and as an Aussie I pulled a few all-nighters to watch the games (because c'mon, watching VoDs just isn't the same) and now my sleeping patterns are still messed up... 7:20am and I'm just about to get into bed, haha!
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On September 05 2012 22:12 writer22816 wrote:
Pubs still haven't stopped picking Phantom Lancer, jesus christ.
I have yet to see a PL carry a game once. One just went 0-11-3 on my team, literally doing nothing except farming lanes and woods and dying repeatedly to a bounty hunter. He doesn't say a single word to us and just keeps on jungling and dying. And he keeps trying to go for radiance, ends up finally getting it at 42 minutes while we are being throned. The saddest thing was, I couldn't even get the 8 people in the game to report him. I asked everyone to report PL because he fed all game and didn't say a single word to his teammates. Enemy BH says "well you have 5 deaths too want me to report you?" /facepalm. It's like these idiots don't even want to have good games.
And what is wrong with people who just don't speak a single word to their teammates the entire game? I don't care if you speak in a foreign language that I can't understand. Just give me some sign that you're not a fucking gorilla. If you're just going to farm woods all game and never communicate with your teammates then why don't you fucking play Diablo or something.
most pubs pl/pa/am/void/ANY HARDCARRY doesnt know how to carry properly. this pl goes 25min radiance as first item (no boots no nothing never in teamfights just farming the entire 25mins) and ofcourse we lose.
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I inform my team to get ready to gank ursa at rosh.. nope they're too busy standing around radiant mid T1.
DK goes the patented 1 stun/4 dragon blood/max stats build.
And how the fuck does lycan have the lowest level...
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People saying they didn't buy a courier because they don't need one...
On September 06 2012 10:51 Heh_ wrote:
DK goes the patented 1 stun/4 dragon blood/max stats build.
It's my understanding that lvl 1 stun first is standard, and that dragon blood is better than breath if you're having a very tough lane. To put at least some points into stats seems viable too. What am I missing?
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On September 06 2012 11:45 Dondarrion wrote:People saying they didn't buy a courier because they don't need one... Show nested quote +On September 06 2012 10:51 Heh_ wrote:
DK goes the patented 1 stun/4 dragon blood/max stats build. It's my understanding that lvl 1 stun first is standard, and that dragon blood is better than breath if you're having a very tough lane. To put at least some points into stats seems viable too. What am I missing?
Dragon breath
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On September 06 2012 09:20 aintz wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2012 22:12 writer22816 wrote:
Pubs still haven't stopped picking Phantom Lancer, jesus christ.
I have yet to see a PL carry a game once. One just went 0-11-3 on my team, literally doing nothing except farming lanes and woods and dying repeatedly to a bounty hunter. He doesn't say a single word to us and just keeps on jungling and dying. And he keeps trying to go for radiance, ends up finally getting it at 42 minutes while we are being throned. The saddest thing was, I couldn't even get the 8 people in the game to report him. I asked everyone to report PL because he fed all game and didn't say a single word to his teammates. Enemy BH says "well you have 5 deaths too want me to report you?" /facepalm. It's like these idiots don't even want to have good games.
And what is wrong with people who just don't speak a single word to their teammates the entire game? I don't care if you speak in a foreign language that I can't understand. Just give me some sign that you're not a fucking gorilla. If you're just going to farm woods all game and never communicate with your teammates then why don't you fucking play Diablo or something. most pubs pl/pa/am/void/ANY HARDCARRY doesnt know how to carry properly. this pl goes 25min radiance as first item (no boots no nothing never in teamfights just farming the entire 25mins) and ofcourse we lose.
I can never carry as pl. My team wins heavily or i simply can't carry my team even with manta/radi/diffu.
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On September 06 2012 11:45 Dondarrion wrote:People saying they didn't buy a courier because they don't need one... Show nested quote +On September 06 2012 10:51 Heh_ wrote:
DK goes the patented 1 stun/4 dragon blood/max stats build. It's my understanding that lvl 1 stun first is standard, and that dragon blood is better than breath if you're having a very tough lane. To put at least some points into stats seems viable too. What am I missing?
When you see DK hit, hit, hit, then the enemy hero simply runs away.
Oh yeah, forgot to mention he went MoM after threads. Makes me wanna kick singsing's sorry ass.
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FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
Treads, treads, treads.
Regardless, Breathe Fire is the way to go 90% of the time. You're forgiven, as Dragon Knight, if you have an extremely tough lane. But that wasn't stated.
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Me: "Hey guys can I have mid?"
Entire team: *starts speaking in spanish
Me: *Picks Lone Druid and afks in jungle.
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On September 06 2012 12:03 flamewheel wrote:
Treads, treads, treads.
Regardless, Breathe Fire is the way to go 90% of the time. You're forgiven, as Dragon Knight, if you have an extremely tough lane. But that wasn't stated.
Ok, treads =)
The lane wasn't tough. He volunteered to solo bot, and there wasn't much action there. The top lane had more feeding going on.... =/
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First game of dota 2, a awesome freind bought me a key. I random, get anti mage, and go top becuase pudge called mid, no big deal. I die 1v3, and pudge rages. This continues, even as i start getting kill, as pudge is raging hard. I get to the point of getting a positive k to d (this is my first game) and we start winning. By the end of the game pudge was afk becuase i blinked awy instead of suiciding 2v5 with him. We win the game 4v5, i get a triple in the last fight. My team is killing the base and exchanging gg's, when pudge comes back and starts screaming that he reported all of us. By the time the game ends, he has called me every profanity he could, and is still flipping out. My fina score in my first game 15 kills 9 deaths. The rager's final score, 3-11. Why do people act like this in games they win?
Also is there a way to ignore in game?
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Omni knight wants to go mid......and refuses to listen to the 3 other carries in the team lol.
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even with a tough lane dk should max fire and when he gets 6 gank the shit out of people. dk that dont max firebreath end up useless 99% of the time. the point of the hero is to charge stun and deal damage not be a idiot with super high armor doing no damage
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