EPTI even had a wisp tell me that he wanted to support when I randomed omni first....
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China13814 Posts
I even had a wisp tell me that he wanted to support when I randomed omni first.... | ||
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Windwaker
Germany1597 Posts
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
On September 05 2012 06:29 Heh_ wrote: But you almost always want your morph skill to be maxed ASAP so you can change stats really quickly when getting ganked. Morphing into strength at 8/s compared to 2/s is often the difference between life and death. Totally true. I'm talking specifically about a situation in which your team has total map control and you can sit and farm without pressure of any sort. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
I just took the dive into Dota 2 after the internationals and everyone is retarted. I played LoL and got very good, so I at least understand how the game works in theory. This is not true for other people. Most players I have played with have either DCed, wasted all their mana, don't know how to play safe or just charge to their deaths in 3 v 1 fights. Its hard to even attempt to get better then your entire team is horrible. I'm bad, but they are worse. Ok rant over, Im going to make grilled ham and cheese. | ||
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hooahah
3752 Posts
On September 05 2012 08:53 Plansix wrote: So this is the thread where we QQ right? I just took the dive into Dota 2 after the internationals and everyone is retarted. I played LoL and got very good, so I at least understand how the game works in theory. This is not true for other people. Most players I have played with have either DCed, wasted all their mana, don't know how to play safe or just charge to their deaths in 3 v 1 fights. Its hard to even attempt to get better then your entire team is horrible. I'm bad, but they are worse. Ok rant over, Im going to make grilled ham and cheese. It's important to just relax, and calmly explain (without being aggressive) simple things if possible new players aren't bad - they just don't know how to play yet. As for the team sucking - it's a game, just have fun. With time you'll be up against better players. | ||
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aeroblaster
United States422 Posts
On September 05 2012 08:53 Plansix wrote: So this is the thread where we QQ right? I just took the dive into Dota 2 after the internationals and everyone is retarted. I played LoL and got very good, so I at least understand how the game works in theory. This is not true for other people. Most players I have played with have either DCed, wasted all their mana, don't know how to play safe or just charge to their deaths in 3 v 1 fights. Its hard to even attempt to get better then your entire team is horrible. I'm bad, but they are worse. Ok rant over, Im going to make grilled ham and cheese. A lot of noobs are suicidal like that. :p At least you played LoL before and know the ropes somewhat already. Try co-op vs bot matches, in there you can practice without worrying about losing if your team is terrible. The bots can be challenging at times but you can easily outsmart them and win anyway. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On September 05 2012 08:45 LuckoftheIrish wrote: Totally true. I'm talking specifically about a situation in which your team has total map control and you can sit and farm without pressure of any sort. If you are not under any pressure you can just morph a little bit of agi and free farm just as easily. The only real bonus of stats is the survivability and the mana. Morph gives more survivability, so it's basically just the mana, and I don't think you will be spamming waveform that early anyway. | ||
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
On September 05 2012 09:07 SKC wrote: If you are not under any pressure you can just morph a little bit of agi and free farm just as easily. The only real bonus of stats is the survivability and the mana. Morph gives more survivability, so it's basically just the mana, and I don't think you will be spamming waveform that early anyway. You can do that with 1 level of Morph. If you're just sitting and farming a lane, it doesn't matter what your rate of exchange is. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On September 05 2012 09:11 LuckoftheIrish wrote: You can do that with 1 level of Morph. If you're just sitting and farming a lane, it doesn't matter what your rate of exchange is. Why do you get stats exactly? To be able to last hit better? That's why I said you could just as easily morph some stats into agi. To survive better? Morph is better for that. To be able to get kills? If you are participating in fights, you probally could use Morph. To have more mana? That's the only thing I could see, but I don't really think it's really such a big deal. I just don't see the purpose of this build. It has a purpose for AM, but Morphling is really a diferent hero. It's not like it doesn't matter. You delay Adaptive strike until around level 13 and max it at level 17. You often could use it at least for the ministun, and if you are indeed freefarming it will already be useful before that. | ||
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Sc1pio
United States823 Posts
I random, and get Sniper, so I've already pretty much put this one in the loss column. One of the previous people arguing about solo mid proceeds to pick AM and tell me to repick, saying he's the one who's going to farm. Even though I dislike playing Sniper immensly, that's pretty fucking retarded and I tell him no. We do pretty well early on, it's like 10-2. AM is going on about how good his farm is, and is bragging about a 20 minute naked battlefury. Not naked as in "boots, a bit of stats, got some regen early on", I mean it is literally the only item in his inventory once he gets it. He goes bfury into treads into bfly, which isn't too too bad. He kept going on about how he was going to 1v5 them, it's gg because he's farmed, etc. I don't have an indication of his cs or anything but his items seemed well timed enough so I'm not too concerned. My only concern was despite having decent farm he wasn't participating in teamfights too much, and we began losing them because I didn't have great farm and was in teamfights a bit too early to compensate for AM being in the jungle. He still goes on about how farmed he is, and of course when we end up on the losing end says that his "300+ cs means nothing". He ends the 45 minute game with 389 GPM. This is what he considered "TOO FARMED GG RADIANT". He went for a vanguard as his fourth item, as in he bought a stout shield 35 minutes into the game hoping to build that. 389 gpm isnt bad but his attitide about it was terrible. I'm an awful player but I still was a little upset about this. | ||
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Narw
Poland884 Posts
EDIT: Nvm, that was actually good game. Next game i get Enchantres which NEVER (like never, ever) left our jungle. Midas and Scepter didn't helped him outcarry Lycan. What a supirse. | ||
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Dankleteer
United States1430 Posts
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
On September 05 2012 10:07 SKC wrote: Why do you get stats exactly? To be able to last hit better? That's why I said you could just as easily morph some stats into agi. To survive better? Morph is better for that. To be able to get kills? If you are participating in fights, you probally could use Morph. To have more mana? That's the only thing I could see, but I don't really think it's really such a big deal. I just don't see the purpose of this build. It has a purpose for AM, but Morphling is really a diferent hero. It's not like it doesn't matter. You delay Adaptive strike until around level 13 and max it at level 17. You often could use it at least for the ministun, and if you are indeed freefarming it will already be useful before that. Exactly what was noted here. As mentioned multiple times already, Waveform-Stats is an outdated build. The only advantage that Stats gives over Morph is additional mana. However, when Morphing to Strength or Agility a constant 20 mana is used per second, regardless of level. To morph 8 STR with level 1 morph takes 80 mana, while morphing 8 STR with level 4 morph only takes 20. In essence, the additional mana granted from Stats with one level in Morph is used to morph. While a Morphling in an extremely kill-heavy lane can make use of the higher mana pool for Waveform, oftentimes this is not the case. Additionally, going Waveform-Stats throws off the timing for Ethereal Blade, should you choose to go that route first. If you grab two points in Stats, your Shotgun combo is not as potent as you'd like it to be. Ideally, around 20-25 minutes you'd want your Ethereal Blade alongside 3 or 4 points in Adaptive Strike. Having only one (or two) points in Adaptive Strike means you're missing out in a large amount of damage, thus weakening the combo. | ||
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morlakaix
United States860 Posts
fuck this game | ||
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Narcind
Sweden2489 Posts
But, obviously no one does anything useful, I end up getting courier, upgrading courier and warding on SF, while enchantress rushes midas into orchid and has like 600 hp 20 minutes into the game. SO MUCH FUN. | ||
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tpmraven
United States833 Posts
Then vlads... Has 50ish cs after 45 mins.... Yeah, its kinda like that | ||
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Narcind
Sweden2489 Posts
Last time I ever queue for CM matchmaking, holy fucking shit that was awful | ||
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dartoo
India2889 Posts
On September 05 2012 16:45 Canas wrote: So I just queued for a CM game in matchmaking. Last time I ever do that lmfao, 10 minute queue and I get matched with some of the worst players I have ever seen in my entire life (literally, I'm not evne joking), "OMG SAND KING CAN'T SOLO LANE", "OMG NAGA IS A BAD PICK", "OMG WHY U GO HEX ON QOP SCEPTER IS SO MUCH BETTER" Last time I ever queue for CM matchmaking, holy fucking shit that was awful You actually got a game in CM mode? .... I never get that, after like 12 mins or so I stopped it. | ||
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Horo
United States351 Posts
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
Got to be the dumbest thing. i know people don't want a concede option, but having all 5 people on your team sit in fountain being killed by the enemy team when they haven't even killed a t3 yet is completely pointless and there are definitely unwinnable situations. | ||
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