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writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-15 04:02:07
August 15 2012 03:23 GMT
#2221
Our team is Rubick, Siren, Furion and Kunkka. I say "no more carries please". Fifth person picks AM.

AM starts with QB and Ring of Protection first and lanes bot with kunkka. I'm thinking fuck he's probably going vlads first, lmao this game is gonna be good.

He picks up a DD rune and says, "fb bot". LOL?

He proceeds to build Ring of Basilius --> Ring of Health. I shit you not, no stout, no vanguard, no pms. His farm is absolutely terrible and he derps around in fights and pushing lanes instead of trying to maximize farm (although this happens so often with pub carry players that it's almost not even an insult anymore).

At 20 minutes, no signs towards Battle fury. At 25 minutes, he has a javelin.

At this point my brain exploded and I asked him why the hell he has a javelin. He doesn't respond.

At 30 minutes, he has a Basher. I'm pretty pissed off now so I beg him to him start building non-retarded items.

Me: AM can you please build a manta style?
AM: Why would I need a manta style? I prefer killing people instead of just burning their mana.
Me: Manta gives you DPS.
AM: Well, I play my own way.

lmao. Thankfully I was queuing with 2 other TL'ers and we managed to carry the game and win anyway. After we have 2 lanes raxed, I couldn't resist having another jab at this idiot.

Me: Thank god we won despite AM's retarded item build
Kunkka: Why? His build is good, it's unexpected and unexpected item builds are good.

lol...that was all I could take before I had to mute both of them.

edit: his second item at the end of the game was a linkens...lol
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
August 15 2012 03:35 GMT
#2222
On August 15 2012 12:23 writer22816 wrote:
Kunkka: Why? His build is good, it's unexpected and unexpected item builds are good.

This guy understands the meta.
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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
August 15 2012 03:35 GMT
#2223
man get home and havent played dota in two weeks but servers decide to act up tonight! pls fix server valve pls i que with all the brazilians
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
August 15 2012 03:38 GMT
#2224
back in the day heen used to do double hyperstone into basher on AM
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
August 15 2012 03:52 GMT
#2225
Well at least basher is better than a naked double midas lone druid still working towards his radiance 35 minutes into the game.
Bergys
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden337 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-15 09:27:54
August 15 2012 09:27 GMT
#2226
On August 15 2012 07:02 Canas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 04:06 Bergys wrote:
On August 15 2012 01:37 Canas wrote:
Queue for a game, instapick invoker because I feel like playing invoker

SLARDAR VIPER JUGGERNAUT MORPHLING, with slardar maxing bash first. This is in the "very high" bracket. WHAT THE FUCK?

Not sure what's worse, the fact that a lineup like that actually happened, or the fact that we somehow managed to win the game


Maybe they just felt like playing slardar/viper/juggernaut/morphling? I've never understood this logic. You insta-picked trying to force your teammates into playing heroes they don't want to play. If you insta-pick, don't cry when your team doesn't pick like you want them to.


The past 5 games I'd played enigma, tide, dark seer, leshrac and venomancer, even though I greatly prefer playing semi carries/carries, because people had instapicked retarded shit like spirit breaker and kunkka, so I kind of had to.

I hardly ever pick something that's bad for the current lineup of the team, which is why I kind of have to pick early if I ever want to play heroes like invoker.


I see your point, but you have no idea of their game history. You're looking at yourself with knowledge of your past games and just looking at this specific game for your allies. Maybe they had been playing cm for the last 40 games and felt like playing juggernaut, you just don't know. It's the same logic people use when they flame people for being bad. Even if they fed the game before they will still flame their allies if someone else is doing bad in this particular game where they themselves are doing well.

Sometimes people just pick like retards though, but imo if you want a good lineup you can't rely on other people. Support roles are not as appealing to play as carry and so on for most players. A lot of people can't be arsed picking good lineups in pubs either.
LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
August 15 2012 11:14 GMT
#2227
On August 15 2012 04:06 Bergys wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 01:37 Canas wrote:
Queue for a game, instapick invoker because I feel like playing invoker

SLARDAR VIPER JUGGERNAUT MORPHLING, with slardar maxing bash first. This is in the "very high" bracket. WHAT THE FUCK?

Not sure what's worse, the fact that a lineup like that actually happened, or the fact that we somehow managed to win the game


Maybe they just felt like playing slardar/viper/juggernaut/morphling? I've never understood this logic. You insta-picked trying to force your teammates into playing heroes they don't want to play. If you insta-pick, don't cry when your team doesn't pick like you want them to.


This is pretty much why i random every game.
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
August 15 2012 11:35 GMT
#2228
On August 15 2012 12:23 writer22816 wrote:
Our team is Rubick, Siren, Furion and Kunkka. I say "no more carries please". Fifth person picks AM.

AM starts with QB and Ring of Protection first and lanes bot with kunkka. I'm thinking fuck he's probably going vlads first, lmao this game is gonna be good.

He picks up a DD rune and says, "fb bot". LOL?

He proceeds to build Ring of Basilius --> Ring of Health. I shit you not, no stout, no vanguard, no pms. His farm is absolutely terrible and he derps around in fights and pushing lanes instead of trying to maximize farm (although this happens so often with pub carry players that it's almost not even an insult anymore).

At 20 minutes, no signs towards Battle fury. At 25 minutes, he has a javelin.

At this point my brain exploded and I asked him why the hell he has a javelin. He doesn't respond.

At 30 minutes, he has a Basher. I'm pretty pissed off now so I beg him to him start building non-retarded items.

Me: AM can you please build a manta style?
AM: Why would I need a manta style? I prefer killing people instead of just burning their mana.
Me: Manta gives you DPS.
AM: Well, I play my own way.

lmao. Thankfully I was queuing with 2 other TL'ers and we managed to carry the game and win anyway. After we have 2 lanes raxed, I couldn't resist having another jab at this idiot.

Me: Thank god we won despite AM's retarded item build
Kunkka: Why? His build is good, it's unexpected and unexpected item builds are good.

lol...that was all I could take before I had to mute both of them.

edit: his second item at the end of the game was a linkens...lol


The most retarded AM i have ever seen is some AM rushed linken, my brain exploded when he even dared to argue with us linken >bfury for farming.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
August 15 2012 11:42 GMT
#2229
The funny thing is that AM's used to rush Linkens many years ago, back when Battlefury was considered an absolutely trashy item.
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YODA_
Profile Joined June 2012
593 Posts
August 15 2012 21:24 GMT
#2230
On August 15 2012 12:52 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Well at least basher is better than a naked double midas lone druid still working towards his radiance 35 minutes into the game.

Obviously 35 minutes in is bad, bad, but if you're facing, say, a spectre, or similar "farm for 40 minute hero", and you have a good start with druid.....double midas is completely viable, especially if there is a chen or ench on the other team.
akatama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Romania982 Posts
August 15 2012 21:37 GMT
#2231
Chen + omni + undying + veno + OD. PUSHING THE SHIT OUT OF US. Too much healing to take on in a fight, and you need like 3 diffusals to purge enough stuff to actually kill. How are you supposed to win vs this? Bullshit combo.
Makes me wonder why we haven't seen omni in comp; really strong 1v1 laner and can win you teamfights outright even if you get initiated. You can't burst him down every time since he can just repel himself and screw you over big time if you don't have a diff carrier.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
August 15 2012 22:03 GMT
#2232
On August 16 2012 06:37 akatama wrote:
Chen + omni + undying + veno + OD. PUSHING THE SHIT OUT OF US. Too much healing to take on in a fight, and you need like 3 diffusals to purge enough stuff to actually kill. How are you supposed to win vs this? Bullshit combo.
Makes me wonder why we haven't seen omni in comp; really strong 1v1 laner and can win you teamfights outright even if you get initiated. You can't burst him down every time since he can just repel himself and screw you over big time if you don't have a diff carrier.


I don't think Omni is a very strong 1v1 laner, and that's probally one of his biggest issues. He is not a great babysitter and isn't that great at mid as well, much worse than popular mid heroes like QoP, Invoker, Rubick, Furion, etc. Kinda like Ogre Magi, I feel that he is very awkward to lane and that really hurts him, even if his spells are very good. It is fun to do gimmicky lanes like Omni+Clinkz or Weaver in pubs though.
shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
August 15 2012 22:09 GMT
#2233
everyone is mad at me and I don't know why
Photographer@shindags || twitch.tv/shindigs
YODA_
Profile Joined June 2012
593 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-15 23:16:34
August 15 2012 23:14 GMT
#2234
On August 16 2012 07:03 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 06:37 akatama wrote:
Chen + omni + undying + veno + OD. PUSHING THE SHIT OUT OF US. Too much healing to take on in a fight, and you need like 3 diffusals to purge enough stuff to actually kill. How are you supposed to win vs this? Bullshit combo.
Makes me wonder why we haven't seen omni in comp; really strong 1v1 laner and can win you teamfights outright even if you get initiated. You can't burst him down every time since he can just repel himself and screw you over big time if you don't have a diff carrier.


I don't think Omni is a very strong 1v1 laner, and that's probally one of his biggest issues. He is not a great babysitter and isn't that great at mid as well, much worse than popular mid heroes like QoP, Invoker, Rubick, Furion, etc. Kinda like Ogre Magi, I feel that he is very awkward to lane and that really hurts him, even if his spells are very good. It is fun to do gimmicky lanes like Omni+Clinkz or Weaver in pubs though.

Omni is an amazing laner, even 1 v 1......what he is not is a good babysitter. Omni plus just about anyone is a pretty solid lane, and if your opponents need to be in melee range or clos to it to deal damage, he is straight up OP in lane. However he just sucks giant sweaty balls when he can't keep up in levels, unlike virtually every single other babysitter on the planet. Therefore, he is a conundrum in that he is one of the strongest laners in the game, but one of the worst support babysitters, and also can't carry........so his only real use is throwing him in a dual lane with a a stunner or slower and using his heal as a nuke, with a single point in slow for chasing. The problem is....who the hell does this in decent level pubs? This just leaves you with two decent supports who will have mediocre levels and farm when you could have an actual carry and support on a lane who will be useful past 30 minutes.
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
August 15 2012 23:43 GMT
#2235
I fucking hate Viper

that's pretty much that, really.

Too many games end up with Viper assfucking my entire team because his skills are literally "kill" and "destroy"
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
August 16 2012 00:42 GMT
#2236
On August 15 2012 20:35 BurningSera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 12:23 writer22816 wrote:
Our team is Rubick, Siren, Furion and Kunkka. I say "no more carries please". Fifth person picks AM.

AM starts with QB and Ring of Protection first and lanes bot with kunkka. I'm thinking fuck he's probably going vlads first, lmao this game is gonna be good.

He picks up a DD rune and says, "fb bot". LOL?

He proceeds to build Ring of Basilius --> Ring of Health. I shit you not, no stout, no vanguard, no pms. His farm is absolutely terrible and he derps around in fights and pushing lanes instead of trying to maximize farm (although this happens so often with pub carry players that it's almost not even an insult anymore).

At 20 minutes, no signs towards Battle fury. At 25 minutes, he has a javelin.

At this point my brain exploded and I asked him why the hell he has a javelin. He doesn't respond.

At 30 minutes, he has a Basher. I'm pretty pissed off now so I beg him to him start building non-retarded items.

Me: AM can you please build a manta style?
AM: Why would I need a manta style? I prefer killing people instead of just burning their mana.
Me: Manta gives you DPS.
AM: Well, I play my own way.

lmao. Thankfully I was queuing with 2 other TL'ers and we managed to carry the game and win anyway. After we have 2 lanes raxed, I couldn't resist having another jab at this idiot.

Me: Thank god we won despite AM's retarded item build
Kunkka: Why? His build is good, it's unexpected and unexpected item builds are good.

lol...that was all I could take before I had to mute both of them.

edit: his second item at the end of the game was a linkens...lol


The most retarded AM i have ever seen is some AM rushed linken, my brain exploded when he even dared to argue with us linken >bfury for farming.


I forgot to mention that the second big item he got after Basher was Linkens. Course, we had already won the game by then despite him.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
August 16 2012 01:16 GMT
#2237
On August 16 2012 09:42 writer22816 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 20:35 BurningSera wrote:
On August 15 2012 12:23 writer22816 wrote:
Our team is Rubick, Siren, Furion and Kunkka. I say "no more carries please". Fifth person picks AM.

AM starts with QB and Ring of Protection first and lanes bot with kunkka. I'm thinking fuck he's probably going vlads first, lmao this game is gonna be good.

He picks up a DD rune and says, "fb bot". LOL?

He proceeds to build Ring of Basilius --> Ring of Health. I shit you not, no stout, no vanguard, no pms. His farm is absolutely terrible and he derps around in fights and pushing lanes instead of trying to maximize farm (although this happens so often with pub carry players that it's almost not even an insult anymore).

At 20 minutes, no signs towards Battle fury. At 25 minutes, he has a javelin.

At this point my brain exploded and I asked him why the hell he has a javelin. He doesn't respond.

At 30 minutes, he has a Basher. I'm pretty pissed off now so I beg him to him start building non-retarded items.

Me: AM can you please build a manta style?
AM: Why would I need a manta style? I prefer killing people instead of just burning their mana.
Me: Manta gives you DPS.
AM: Well, I play my own way.

lmao. Thankfully I was queuing with 2 other TL'ers and we managed to carry the game and win anyway. After we have 2 lanes raxed, I couldn't resist having another jab at this idiot.

Me: Thank god we won despite AM's retarded item build
Kunkka: Why? His build is good, it's unexpected and unexpected item builds are good.

lol...that was all I could take before I had to mute both of them.

edit: his second item at the end of the game was a linkens...lol


The most retarded AM i have ever seen is some AM rushed linken, my brain exploded when he even dared to argue with us linken >bfury for farming.


I forgot to mention that the second big item he got after Basher was Linkens. Course, we had already won the game by then despite him.

I just played with the most retarded AM. He kept blinking and suiciding into the opposing team. My team. Lol.
=Þ
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
August 16 2012 02:46 GMT
#2238
On August 15 2012 20:14 LAN-f34r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 04:06 Bergys wrote:
On August 15 2012 01:37 Canas wrote:
Queue for a game, instapick invoker because I feel like playing invoker

SLARDAR VIPER JUGGERNAUT MORPHLING, with slardar maxing bash first. This is in the "very high" bracket. WHAT THE FUCK?

Not sure what's worse, the fact that a lineup like that actually happened, or the fact that we somehow managed to win the game


Maybe they just felt like playing slardar/viper/juggernaut/morphling? I've never understood this logic. You insta-picked trying to force your teammates into playing heroes they don't want to play. If you insta-pick, don't cry when your team doesn't pick like you want them to.


This is pretty much why i random every game.

i assume you do this out of courtesy but for god's sake if you gonna random do it immediately, don't sit until creeps spawn and then go HUH LOL TIME TO RANDOM ALCHAMIST ^_^
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
August 16 2012 02:56 GMT
#2239
On August 15 2012 18:27 Bergys wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 07:02 Canas wrote:
On August 15 2012 04:06 Bergys wrote:
On August 15 2012 01:37 Canas wrote:
Queue for a game, instapick invoker because I feel like playing invoker

SLARDAR VIPER JUGGERNAUT MORPHLING, with slardar maxing bash first. This is in the "very high" bracket. WHAT THE FUCK?

Not sure what's worse, the fact that a lineup like that actually happened, or the fact that we somehow managed to win the game


Maybe they just felt like playing slardar/viper/juggernaut/morphling? I've never understood this logic. You insta-picked trying to force your teammates into playing heroes they don't want to play. If you insta-pick, don't cry when your team doesn't pick like you want them to.


The past 5 games I'd played enigma, tide, dark seer, leshrac and venomancer, even though I greatly prefer playing semi carries/carries, because people had instapicked retarded shit like spirit breaker and kunkka, so I kind of had to.

I hardly ever pick something that's bad for the current lineup of the team, which is why I kind of have to pick early if I ever want to play heroes like invoker.


I see your point, but you have no idea of their game history. You're looking at yourself with knowledge of your past games and just looking at this specific game for your allies. Maybe they had been playing cm for the last 40 games and felt like playing juggernaut, you just don't know. It's the same logic people use when they flame people for being bad. Even if they fed the game before they will still flame their allies if someone else is doing bad in this particular game where they themselves are doing well.

Sometimes people just pick like retards though, but imo if you want a good lineup you can't rely on other people. Support roles are not as appealing to play as carry and so on for most players. A lot of people can't be arsed picking good lineups in pubs either.


That's true, but people who bug me the most are the ones who pick noticeably later than everyone else (like when creeps are about to spawn or have already spawned) and still end up with a retarded pick. I just don't understand these people. If you want to play a particular hero then why don't you just pick him first? What's stopping you since your mind is already made? Why are you waiting so long if you're not going to make an intelligent pick? The only conclusion I can draw from these people is that they are trying to counterpick but they are just so incompetent that they end up failing horribly.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Xinder
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2269 Posts
August 16 2012 04:57 GMT
#2240
I need this thread so bad right now. I just got out of a game with a pudge that was SOOOOOOOOO bad I almost think he was an asshat trolling us to get us to lose. Course I have no proof of this but it was that terrible. Here was his item progression:

Bottle first> RoH > RoR > Sell bottle > buy 2nd RoR > Get boots*Only cause I told him to get boots* > Finish hood

Hard to believe it, but we lost the game. Sad part is we actually won several teamfights in the game when we initiated well, despite the fucking idiot Pudge. If he was even like, 1/16th decent we probably would have won.

He says in game, after I'm bitching that he's an idiot, that he's noob w/ pudge. This was at like the 15 min mark. I don't care if someone picks a hero they think is cool or want to play, but for fuck sake ASK FOR HELP IF YOU DON'T KNOW THE ITEMS TO BUILD!! Even if you think you're gonna get yelled at by your team for picking a hero you haven't ever played, you're gonna get bitched at more if you fail so miserably you lose the game for the team.

<3 this thread
/end rant
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