In-Game Standard Hero Builds Project - Page 80

On July 12 2014 00:03 Sn0_Man wrote:
Tranq->blink is fine but u can't go mek after that as you don't have the mana to cast all ur spells in a fight really and getting mek after blink is just delaying ur mek a ton for limited reason imo. In really specific games it's fine but most of the logic behind doom mek is "u get it hella fast even with limited farm priority and he likes the armor".

Phase/Midas/Blink/Shivas/(refresher/bkb) doom carries fine even if ur not building right click items. They can't run from shivas when u have scorched earth on, they are doomed, and u just hit them. Plus u have a blink for swag. Plus refreshing BKB feels amazing.

On July 12 2014 00:37 Sn0_Man wrote:
One thing I will say is that as a lane-farmer with a midas, shadowblade kinda synergizes with the "be a ganking threat" at least as well as blink in pubs. You tax their supports, sometimes get away when you really shouldn't, and it helps you right click late game. Basically its really strong in pubs IMO, and deserves honorable mention somewhere as a blink alternative.

On July 12 2014 00:31 Sn0_Man wrote:
I sux at ET and he's a bad hero anyway. I don't think you want drums though, and while BKB is "good" it isn't core at all considering the range you can cast spells from etc.

I think mek is very good tho, should stay.

On July 12 2014 00:45 Laserist wrote:


I disagree with some points. This hero uses immense mana and his mana pool is not great. If you go mek, you have to build arcanes which is a lot of gp considering playing in offlane or supportish. You can do it in mid but, you'd like to have phase boots in mid generally.

It is easier to build up a drum maybe after brown b + soul ring in hard lane. Even after the nerfs, drum gives a good edge in early to mid game presence.

Yes, ET cast spells from range but you'd like to enter the fight and hit hard after collecting 2-3 hero worth spirit damage which is probably took like 3-5 seconds after the team fight begins(send spirit, collect damage, stun, ulti and dive). Consider 1-2 extra seconds for you to go melee range and add a 8-10 seconds bkb to that, you are practically invulnerable at that mid game fights. let alone bkb lets you hit 3-4 more hits and you hit really hard at that point. I'd consider bkb as core as 3rd item if you want to fight.
ET is really good, not top tier for sure but calling bad hero is not right. He needs his nerfs reverted back.

On July 12 2014 00:52 Laserist wrote:
Although I disagree with tranquils it is a very solid build. Tranquils is justified if you plan to spam spirit and stay within xp range. Otherwise mana boots are phase puts more pressure imo.

On July 12 2014 02:47 Rayeth wrote:
So I'm going to bring it up since I find myself doing it every time these days, but what about the Blink on Wraith King?

The Blink King has started to become a thing now. I don't really know if we should change the default guide or create a new one with a support King. I am ending up getting Blink on WK even when I'm carrying, but I think support WK is enough of a thing that maybe we could make a new guide.

IMO the support guide would not max E 2nd and instead go Q Stats Q W Q R Q W etc and leave E till last.
This would allow you to jungle a bit as the support and then we can go ahead and put Blink in the core items where it belongs. I would still get treads as the support as tread switching and magic wand are so very important for mana to use the ult/stun. As for the rest of the items, you generally don't end up getting many more items as you either lose the game or win before you can get Armlet/BKB/Mjollnir/AC