In-Game Standard Hero Builds Project - Page 64

On April 23 2014 23:35 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
I think your guide would be better off with a QW Invoker rather than a QE. I'm not saying your guide is bad or anything, just that QW is much more conventional to play. Playing QE optimally requires getting the most out of your Sunstrikes, which requires either a level of coordination that doesn't exist in pubs or unbelievable map awareness, since you have to be ready to throw a SS down any time one of your allies engages on another hero. Being that switched on is a pretty QE Invoker specific skill, so to play that build well you really need enough experience with it that you don't need the guide.

QW doesn't require that level of hyper-awareness and is a much better choice for someone who picks up the hero for the first time. It feels much more like playing every other hero.

On April 23 2014 22:35 Firebolt145 wrote:
If you're not going to invest more than one point in Flameguard then that point is useless. Flameguard doesn't do anything at level 1 and the point would be far more useful in SoF instead.

BKB definitely needs to be in Situational for all Ember builds. As much as you prefer to avoid it, there are games where it is crucial.

On April 24 2014 23:13 shimizu wrote:
There is one thing bothering me about the phoenix guide, you suggest getting only one level on icarus dive until you max fire spirit and sun ray, while this would make sense for other heroes, icarus dive from level 1 to level 2 TRIPLES its dps, it would be more effective to get a second level on it and then going to max sun ray.

On April 24 2014 18:37 Laserist wrote:
Hey Torte,

I experimented a lot about axe in jungle particularly these days. Mostly I try to refine the build rather than winning, here is my thoughts.

As starters, i buy stout+tango+armor ring into fast tranquils. I don't like double tango since it delays the tranquils and with that it is possible to stay %70 all the time. You have to use boots drop technique. Another point is you have to go base or use courier to take the armor ring which is the only part that you can't buy from side shop. One tango gives you ~7.15 hp/s and boots give 12 hp/s and it is charge-less. One set is enough with careful jungling(either you can choke point strong creeps and stack medium camps).

I see no use of magic wand since you'll spend your early game in jungle, hardly accumulate and charges.

Hood core is questionable. I'd exchange it with vanguard considering this is a pub guide. I feel axe is not tanky enough considering he is a taunt hero. After blink, if I rush anything other than a tanky item(hood is tanky sure but i dunno), I feel short on hp(get the kill but die in the process kind of).

For the ability build, call has definitely no use in jungle. It is 2 sec at level 1, but the creeps you have hard time to kill take several seconds to kill so it doesn't provide any use. Add tranquil regen between camps.

Considering no mana usage while in jungle, I take first 2 points on Hunger and help easy line when I am near. With correct timing, it turns the game hell for the offlaner. At level 6, I am 1-2-2-1. Call seems a bit short but 2 seconds is not that short comparing 2.4 seconds(level 2 call). It helps positioning for teammates and provide enough helix imo. Then I max helix & call.
What I prefer to do next is, after blink, next 650 gp doesn't provide you that much, since you already build your core. I buy bottle to increase my activity. Hp between fights hardly a problem at this point but mana is very short. Bottle allows you to be more aggressive.

Take my words with a grain of salt, since I live in trench.

On April 25 2014 00:33 baeric wrote:
Just wanted to say that I use your guides a lot and they are really good

Cheers