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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
April 06 2014 21:04 GMT
#1221
Can you repeat that with more punctuation?

Also, Steam Cloud still being finicky...
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 06 2014 21:13 GMT
#1222
On April 05 2014 07:03 Chaosquo wrote:
Could you elaborate on that? Do you mean some games you wont have the spare gold for it and you need armlet immediately to fight or your team has enough arcane boots?

Drums are a poor man-fighting item and a mediocre farming item. They are specifically suited for the types of games where you have to fight at that first item timing and need the movement speed to engage on backline heroes. For games where teamfights require to fight frontline heroes, it's not as effective as Armlet, and for farming games, you're better off skipping it.

On April 05 2014 05:48 TheYango wrote:
In my experience even if the enemies dont have the coordination to kill the rocket, the target will at least run, so its a zoning spell at most. Also I would strongly argue that Rockets or Flak are superior at lvl 1 and that maxing Missile is not worth it at lvl 12+.

Don't start the rocket from vision, and coordinate it with your ultimate. The rocket has 1050 range, you can easily set it up such that by the time they see the rocket, it's difficult for them to escape, especially with your ult.

On April 05 2014 07:03 Chaosquo wrote:
From my understanding isnt it just really useful if you ult at like lvl 7 and the enemy takes lvl 4 desolate damage?

Not a strong enough use of the skill, especially in pub games where games simply aren't coordinated enough for perfect ult usage.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
April 08 2014 08:37 GMT
#1223
For axe, if I'm going Meka and Blink (with Arcane boots) is it better to get meka or blink first?

steam cloud server still down
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 08 2014 12:24 GMT
#1224
Depends on game. I wouldn't put Meka in the standard recommended items though because it's an item you get if you have to, not because you want to.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
April 08 2014 13:45 GMT
#1225
I have it pretty much coupled with Arcane. No point getting arcane if youre not getting Meka.

If I remove Arcane, then we're reversing to the old build
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-17 07:30:58
April 08 2014 13:50 GMT
#1226
things to do:

change necrolyte
Axe jungle guide
Ember Spirit mid guide
Urns/Wand on heroes (VS, Treant, etc.)
Rework old Ember Spirit guide
Do Nyx side-lane guide
maybe add more items to Gyro
remove assault cuirass on ember spirit
Redo PL guide
Check Stout Shields on melee farmers
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
April 09 2014 06:21 GMT
#1227
Stats will be posted today, fuck Steam Cloud still shit as fuck
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-09 10:56:02
April 09 2014 10:55 GMT
#1228
edit
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-10 07:30:57
April 10 2014 07:23 GMT
#1229
edit fuck formatting goddamnit man did I even do it right?
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-24 08:20:47
April 10 2014 07:26 GMT
#1230
+ Show Spoiler [Feb 4] +
After ~15 days (Jan. 17 to Feb. 4), we have risen from 7,154,041 to 8,708,486 combined subscribers

A difference of 1,554,445

Average growth of subscribers is 77,066.25 from 65,036.74


Top 10 least popular guides (bottom being the least popular):
  • Dazzle
  • Faceless Void (recently updated)
  • Lion (recently updated)
  • Phantom Lancer
  • Juggernaut (recently updated)
  • Meepo (needs verification)
  • Tiny [Middle]
  • Invoker (sorely outdated)
  • Ember Spirit
  • Legion Commander [Lane]


Top 10 most popular guides (top being the most popular):
  • Naix
  • Nyx Assassin
  • Skywrath Mage (needs verification)
  • Leshrac
  • Bane
  • Ursa
  • Medusa
  • Venomancer (needs verification)
  • Ancient Apparition
  • Broodmother (recently updated)
+ Show Spoiler [Feb 22] +
After ~15 days (Feb. 5 to Feb. 22), we have risen from 8,708,486 to 10,197,41 combined subscribers

A difference of 1,488,955
Average growth of subscribers is 90,242.84 from 77,066.25


Top 10 least popular guides (bottom being the least popular):
  • Lone Druid [Jungle]
  • Slark [Middle]
  • Meepo
  • Faceless Void
  • Dazzle
  • Juggernaut
  • Phantom Lancer
  • Tiny [Middle]
  • Invoker
  • Legion Commander [Lane]


Top 10 most popular guides (top being the most popular):
  • Naix
  • Nyx Assassin
  • Skywrath Mage
  • Leshrac
  • Bane
  • Ursa
  • Medusa
  • Venomancer
  • Pugna
  • Broodmother


It has officially been 1 year since the guide system release (and when I started this project)!
+ Show Spoiler [Mar 10] +
After ~15 days (Feb. 22 to Mar. 10), we have risen from 10,197,451 to 11,694,519 combined subscribers

A difference of 1,496,978
Average growth of subscribers is 99,953.15 from 90,242.93


5 least popular guides (bottom being the least popular):
  • Juggernaut (1,219)
  • Phantom Lancer (1,058)
  • Tiny (Middle) (910)
  • Invoker (762)
  • Legion Commander (Lane) (510)


5 most popular guides (top being the most popular):
  • Naix (Jungle)
  • Nyx Assassin
  • Skywrath Mage
  • Leshrac
  • Medusa


Notable Growths in Subscriptions:
  • Meepo (1,164 -> 28,208)
  • Ember Spirit (2,358 -> 12,039)
  • Spirit Breaker (4,981 -> 16,666)
  • Pudge (5,900 -> 13,496)
  • Lina (6,407 -> 20,838)
  • Lion (14,324 -> 34,266)
  • Slark (Lane) (15,396 -> 30,426)
  • Weaver (25,342 -> 45,731)
  • Clinkz (31,168 -> 61,833)
  • Mirana (34,910 -> 68,183)
  • Luna (42,572 -> 80,934)
  • Shadow Fiend (79,311 -> 101,547)
  • Terrorblade (86,050 -> 122,345)


Newly Released Guides:
  • Naix (Lane)
  • Ancient Apparition (Lane)
  • Shadow Shaman (Middle)
  • Beastmaster (Middle)





Associated Reddit Topic - March 10th
+ Show Spoiler [Mar 24] +
After ~15 days (Mar. 10 to Mar. 25), we have risen from 11,694,519 to 13,025,681 combined subscribers

A difference of 1,331,162
Average growth of subscribers is 111,330.607 from 99,953.15


5 least popular guides (bottom being the least popular):
  • Juggernaut (1,294)
  • Phantom Lancer (1,112)
  • Tiny (Middle) (941)
  • Invoker (770)
  • Legion Commander (Lane) (579)


5 most popular guides (top being the most popular):
  • Naix (Jungle)
  • Nyx Assassin
  • Skywrath Mage
  • Leshrac
  • Medusa


Notable Growths in Subscriptions:
  • Lifestealer (Jungle) (737,338 -> 757,516)
  • Bounty Hunter (166,830 -> 190,690)
  • Luna (80,934 -> 111,375)
  • Meepo (28,208 -> 52,003)
  • Ember Spirit (12,039 -> 36,130)
  • Lion (34,266 -> 52,853)


Latest Released Guides:
  • Naix (Lane)
  • Ancient Apparition (Lane)
  • Shadow Shaman (Middle)
  • Beastmaster (Middle)





Associated Reddit Topic - March 24th


After ~15 days (Mar. 25 to Apr. 9), we have risen from 13,025,681 to 14,640,324 combined subscribers

A difference of 1,614,643
Average growth of subscribers is 125,130.97 from 111,330.61


5 least popular guides (bottom being the least popular):
  • Phantom Lancer (1,374)
  • Slark (Middle) (1,361)
  • Tiny (Middle) (965)
  • Invoker (790)
  • Legion Commander (Lane) (626)


5 most popular guides (top being the most popular):
  • Naix (Jungle)
  • Nyx Assassin
  • Skywrath Mage
  • Leshrac
  • Medusa


Notable Growths in Subscriptions:
  • Phantom Assassin (9,821 -> 22,968)
  • Queen of Pain (15,279 -> 32,355)
  • Faceless Void (5,516 -> 36,628)
  • Ember Spirit (36,130 -> 73,227)
  • Weaver (63,090 -> 89,479)
  • Clinkz (84,839 -> 111,540)
  • Mirana (96,509 -> 127,826)


Latest Released Guides:
  • Naix (Lane)
  • Ancient Apparition (Lane)
  • Shadow Shaman (Middle)
  • Beastmaster (Middle)





Associated Reddit Topic - April 9th
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
April 16 2014 07:49 GMT
#1231
Can anyone try and create/modify builds? I'm not sure my personal cloud is fucked or if it is worldwide
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Chaosquo
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany154 Posts
April 17 2014 07:28 GMT
#1232
A quote from SQSA:
On April 16 2014 15:40 TheYango wrote:
Pretty much the only reason not to start Stout as a melee farming laner is if you're Bottle Crowing.

Centaur really needs a stout, and I would argue PL should get one too now that tranquils are hard to manage on him.

Also I have a question about Centaur skillbuild, are further levels in stomp worth it? It really increases the mana cost and centaur doesnt have a lot of mana. Granted he only has two skills that cost mana, but still?
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-17 07:30:36
April 17 2014 07:29 GMT
#1233
On April 17 2014 16:28 Chaosquo wrote:
A quote from SQSA:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2014 15:40 TheYango wrote:
Pretty much the only reason not to start Stout as a melee farming laner is if you're Bottle Crowing.

Centaur really needs a stout, and I would argue PL should get one too now that tranquils are hard to manage on him.

Also I have a question about Centaur skillbuild, are further levels in stomp worth it? It really increases the mana cost and centaur doesnt have a lot of mana. Granted he only has two skills that cost mana, but still?


On April 16 2014 16:49 Torte de Lini wrote:
Can anyone try and create/modify builds? I'm not sure my personal cloud is fucked or if it is worldwide


I'll add it to the list of things to do.

PL needs a remake.

Getting your passive is situational/dependant on the lane. Some suggest getting at least one before 6.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
April 21 2014 20:50 GMT
#1234
Found a work-around to edit builds. Going to try and edit them tomorrow/this week before the latest stats update (24th)
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-21 22:09:52
April 21 2014 21:55 GMT
#1235
edit
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 21 2014 21:57 GMT
#1236
Gyro goes Q at level 1 in virtually all situations.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
April 21 2014 21:58 GMT
#1237
Guides to do:

Ember Spirit (Middle)
Axe (Jungle)
Nyx (Side Lane - Support)
Elder Titan (Lane)
Tusk (Middle)

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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-21 21:59:01
April 21 2014 21:58 GMT
#1238
oops meant to edit oh well
I don't think the "value point" in heartstopper is any good on necro. Its key use is in teamfights which rarely occur at level 1.

No mek isn't core on SD
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
April 21 2014 22:02 GMT
#1239
Heartstopper is because having two in Q so early can hardly be used more than twice or so.

What is core on SD? I didn't think Meka was. I have Meka as core on Witch Doctor as well which I would like to shift as well:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=129191918
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 21 2014 22:05 GMT
#1240
Force is baller on SD for saving allies and shit. Medallion too if u opt out of urn.

Force really is just a sick-ass support item.
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