EPTIn-Game Standard Hero Builds Project - Page 63
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I'm going to reinvestigate Ember Spirit, maybe change his build. I maxed flame guard because it seems to be the most potent, but honestly; I don't know. I'm thinking of adding a second battlefury to core items as well Guides to do: Elder Titan (Lane) Tusk (Middle) In other news, Lifestealer guide hits 800,000 subscribers. A first for all guides in the world | ||
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On April 22 2014 18:54 Laserist wrote: Adding a jungle axe would be helpful imo. You mention lane is better for axe but due to picks, sometimes it is impossible to lane properly against some line-ups or you already have a good offlaner. So going to jungle is a safe/reliable way to acquire gold and xp. Axe jungle really rocks especially in dire side. Tranquils into blink is devastating. I'm doing Mid Ember Spirit now where the build will not be maxing Flameguard, but rather the stuns and Sleight of Fist. Maybe flameguard is better on mid and the Bolas/Sleight better for laning. I'm not sure. I will do an Axe jungle later today. I'm at work, so progress is sporatic ): | ||
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On April 22 2014 19:30 Laserist wrote: What is the thought process behind maxing flameguard is better in general? Probs has a hunch that it's better for farming but hasn't realised how strong Ember still is when he comes out of a safelane if you can get SoF/Bola levels early. Depends what you want out of the hero. | ||
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On April 22 2014 19:48 Surprise.820 wrote: Probs has a hunch that it's better for farming but hasn't realised how strong Ember still is when he comes out of a safelane if you can get SoF/Bola levels early. Depends what you want out of the hero. Haven't decided if I want it mid or lane. Mid I see it as being a more active hero around the map and helping out with its early levels while safelane, I see it as farming hard. So I might put Bolas/SF for lane | ||
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On April 22 2014 18:59 Torte de Lini wrote: I'm doing Mid Ember Spirit now where the build will not be maxing Flameguard, but rather the stuns and Sleight of Fist. Maybe flameguard is better on mid and the Bolas/Sleight better for laning. I'm not sure. I will do an Axe jungle later today. I'm at work, so progress is sporatic ): Wow, I was totally looking for a Jungle Axe guide too. I know I've said it before but it should be mentioned again, thanks for your work here TDL. I've managed to get ~10 playing Dota with your guides, all of whom thought it was too overwhelming without them. Bravo. | ||
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On April 22 2014 20:45 BoZiffer wrote: Wow, I was totally looking for a Jungle Axe guide too. I know I've said it before but it should be mentioned again, thanks for your work here TDL. I've managed to get ~10 playing Dota with your guides, all of whom thought it was too overwhelming without them. Bravo. Jungle Axe just needs description and it'll be ready for initial looks and redrafting. Thanks :D That's very warming to hear! I get a lot of feedback from Sn0_Man, TheYango and Firebolt415; so it makes this work a lot less difficult to overcome in terms of figuring heroes out On April 22 2014 20:55 Surprise.820 wrote: Sent you a really positive PM, TDL. Please post it here!! I get too many messages everywhere; even if it is long, it is ok! | ||
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Building both heroes has been a real trouble for me because they don't need anything, but there is too much situation to dictate how the next item should be. | ||
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Witchdoctor Nyx Assassin (lane/middle) Axe (jungle/lane) Ember Spirit (lane/middle) Gyrocopter So any help there or anywhere really is appreciated :D | ||
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On April 23 2014 09:19 firebfm wrote: Your dazzle skill build is not good. Shadow wave should be maxed first, not last. Also put no poison touch until level 9 and no ultimate until level 10. You are missing urn of shadows on spirit breaker. well urn is good on SB so ur not TOTALLY wrong. Dazzle's a bitch to level really, its super situational. However, no poison touch is hilarously wrong for most pubs and maxing shadow wave is only good if you know you can get multiple off per fight or you can guarantee the enemies will stand in the middle of a bunch of units. | ||
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On April 23 2014 09:19 firebfm wrote: Your dazzle skill build is not good. Shadow wave should be maxed first, not last. Also put no poison touch until level 9 and no ultimate until level 10. You are missing urn of shadows on spirit breaker. For zeus, static field at level 2 for the harass because low level lightning bolt is so weak. Posting on the guides directly and just saying they suck is not helpful. I deleted the comments, but please don't do that. - Dazzle skill build is correct. The heal is situational, but the ranged Shallow Grave is perfectly legitimate. - I will add urn for Spirit Breaker. - The Zeus discussion has already been talked about: see below On October 21 2013 07:31 TheYango wrote: Do the math on what their max HP needs to be for 5% current HP to come close to Bolt's +75 damage. It's well beyond what you'd reasonably see on a level 3 enemy hero. The only time you'd take Static at 2 or 3 is if you have zero kill potential or you're behind enough that you won't get your Bottle soon and can't afford to spend mana on Bolt anyway (and even in that case, 1 rank Static won't change the lane if you're that behind, while having more damage in a gank might if it gets you a kill when someone comes to help you out). Chain/Bolt/Bolt far outdamages Chain/Static/Bolt in any situation where you're attempting a kill early game and it's not remotely close. On October 21 2013 07:03 TheYango wrote: Zeus is very capable of getting kills without Ultimate. You can only do it solo in lower-mid level pubs, but if you're not maxing Bolt at 3 and 5 you void the possibility of your supports ganking effectively for you against a lot of heroes because you don't have the damage to finish a kill. | ||
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