EPTIn-Game Standard Hero Builds Project - Page 263
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On January 09 2016 06:50 Birdie wrote: The problem with copying pro Void builds is that they're pretty reliant on the correct draft from what I've seen currently; not sure if that's appropriate for a guide. You do no damage with the build so you need to build burst damage heroes which do said damage from a certain amount of range away, e.g. Sky/Zeus/WD (arguably was important before as well, but more so now). Right but it's been like that pretty much since the nerfs to him. The way i see void now is way more level dependant than he is item dependant than he used to be. This is typical of supports or offlaners as they won't be soaking up as much cs as a mid or safelaner. His skillset is far more conducive, and in my opinion, more well defined towards this since the nerfs a couple of patches ago where all he needed was a mom, treads, and level 6 to get shit done. Universe was a prime example of why void got neutered lol. But the whole pro build thing is also true for many of the "niche" heroes in Dota, but it doesn't make pro item/skill builds wrong or bad for a guide by any means.. sure pros do what they do bc they are good but saying that it's not good in a guide is such a cringe worthy falacy (I don't mean this as a sleight towards you btw) | ||
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What's changed now is that no one runs him in the offlane to scale into a carry, so all his items focus on initiation or building up to initiation items. Taking that into account, it's rather curious that his basic item threshold cost 8750 gold. | ||
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i carry a mango with me just in case though. | ||
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/fa09Gx3.png) 1 million unique for Spirit Breaker If interested in a timeline of 1 million hits and milestones, you can check it here: http://steamcommunity.com/id/0825771 | ||
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On January 12 2016 01:13 Logo wrote: Both Shadow Demon and Bane have Arcane Boots as Core then Mek as a situational item. Should Mek in that case just be Guardian Greaves? Or somehow otherwise indicate that if you get Mek + Arcane you probably want to grab the greave upgrade at some point. Well just include GG Thnaks! | ||
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New Skill Build: Q E Q W Q R Q E E E R W W W R (1. Time Walk 2. Time Lock 3. Time Dilation) Added Vladmir's Offering to Core Items Added Yasha to Core Items Added Butterfly To Luxury Items Added Assault Cuirass to Extension Items Moved Aghanim's Scepter to Core Items Moved Sange and Yasha to Situational Items Moved Monkey King Bar to Extension Items Moved Black King Bar to Extension Items Moved Refresher Orb to Luxury Items Removed Mask of Madness Removed Daedalus Outworld Devourer New Skill Build: W E Q E E Q E Q R Q R W W W R (1. Essence Aura 2. Arcane Orb 3. Astral Imprisonment) Drow Ranger New Skill Build: Q E Q W Q R Q E E E R W W W R (1. Frost Arrows 2. Precision Aura 3. Gust) Added Iron Branch to Starting Items Added Aghanim's Scepter to Extension Items  RubickAdded Observer Ward to Starting Items  DazzleAdded Observer Ward to Starting Items  DisruptorAdded Observer Ward to Starting Items Added Aether Lens to Extension Items Moved Veil of Discord to Situational Items Moved Glimmer Cape to Extension Items Removed Scythe of Vyse  ChenRemoved Iron Branch Oracle (Lane) Oracle (Middle) Moved Solar Crest to Situational Items Moved Eul's Scepter of Divinity to Extension Items Moved Glimmer Cape to Extension Items  Shadow DemonAdded Guardian Greaves to Situational Items Removed Mekansm  BaneAdded Guardian Greaves to Situational Items Removed Mekansm  Dark SeerAdded Iron Branch 2x to Starting Items Moved Aether Lens to Situational Items Moved Blink Dagger to Extension Items | ||
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Heroes to double-check/evaluate [DOTABUFF LINKS ARE SAMPLES/EXAMPLES, NOT ENTIRE POOL]:  : Lane/Middle: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=129111538 http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=356791078 No Matches Arc Warden: Lane/Middle: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=576975639 http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=576978688 No Matches :http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=128876778 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2059810330 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2067328957 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2067550774 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2067613703 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2067682924 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2068100199 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2069063624 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2069416649 Aether Lens Core (before Glimmer) Remove Urn of Shadows  http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=129332354 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2068100199 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2067613703 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2067225691 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2066679779 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2064776227 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2064437263 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2064343834 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2064299688 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2064017925 2x Farie Fire Starting Items (+ Two Iron Branches) Tranquil Boots in Core Items Aether Lens Situational Items Remove Boots of Travel (looking to reduce Extension Items)  : Lane/Middle:http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=129134687 http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=232415624 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2070184901/ http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2067842765 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2067783943 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2067613703 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2067225691 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2065960306 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2065111781 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2064927649 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2064861272 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2064836234 Mango Starting Items (Lane) + Salve, Tango, Branch, Stout Necro 3 first Core -> Blink (Lane) Remove Soul Ring (Lane) If Necro 3. core items -> Move Vlad's http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=128751287 No Matches Gearing towards a more utility role, keep in mind for future  (Lane/Middle)http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=129109889 http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=359580647 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2061866954/ http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2063040897 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2063371941 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2064541636 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2066985045 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2070303765 Starting Items: Mango, Salve, Tangos, Stout (Lane) Blink into Vlads, Power Treads instead of Arcane (Lane)  http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=134962374 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2068449910 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2067842765/ http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2067613703/ http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2064631768/ http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2064531559 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2062751657 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2061999071/ http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2061212672 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2061039829 Starting Items: Mango, Tangoes, Healing Salve, Stout, Branch Add Vladmir's Offering to Situational Items Extension: move Sange and Yasha  http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=128757681 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2066337298 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2066144864 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2063371941 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2063322935 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2062023258 Starting Items: Faerie Fire, Stout, Tangos, Quelling Blade Push Phase Boots after Orchid Reduce Extension Items: Butterfly, Eye of Skadi, Desolator Add Sange and Yasha to Extension Items http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=128735861 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2060213109 Starting Items: Stout, Tango, Salve, Mango, Branch http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=128918471 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2063609588/ http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2063091352 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2062913180 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2060145150 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2060145150 Starting Items: Mango, Stout, Tango, 2x Iron Branch Extension Items: Move BKB Reverse Manta & Sange and Yasha Remove Heart of Tarrasque Situational Items: Add Vladmir's Offering  http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=129056935 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2065442988 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2062882855/ http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2063000977/ http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2062751657 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2060744032 Move Dragon Lance to Situational Items Remove Medallion of Courage Remove Scythe of Vyse Upgrade Diffusal to lvl 2  http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=128732275 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2070247171 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2068547220/ http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2068205321/ http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2068092670/ http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2066679779 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2065614124/ http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2063816118/ http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2063614085 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2062737676 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2062660792 change phase to power treads http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=129323738 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2070247171 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2070184901/ http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2070114438 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2070058798/ http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2069063624/ http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2068449910/ http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2068205321 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2066679779 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2066337298 Starting Items: Faerie Fire x2 + Null Talisman Aether Lens to Situational Items Black King Bar to Extension Items  Lane/Jungle:http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=143243384 http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=129098268 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2060990735/ http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2061756636 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2062788365 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2065286763 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2067550774 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2068449910 http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2069724674 Drums -> Shadow Blade (Lane) Vlads -> Shadow Blade (Jungle) Drums Situational (Jungle) Vlad's to Situational Items (Lane) Infernal Blade at lvl 8 BKB to Situational Items S&Y to Extension Items | ||
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There are very few games where void gets items past those but when he does, BKB, Refresher, and BoTs seem to be the items, with BKB generally prioritized first. This basically means throwing out most of your current build though, and pubs will be confused because "void no farm item no dmg wat?????? noob guide" and it will take 5 years before they figure out that void isn't a carry anymore. | ||
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