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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-28 20:32:15
December 27 2015 22:41 GMT
#5121
Arc Warden (Lane)
New Skill Build: E Q E W E R E Q Q Q R W W W R (1. Flux 2. Spark Wraith 3. Magnetic Field)
Created New Tab: "Luxury Items"
Added Ring of Protection to Starting Items
Added Assault Cuirass to Extension Items
Added Desolator to Extension Items
Moved Blink Dagger to Core Items
Moved Black King Bar to Situational Items
Moved Divine Rapier to "Luxury Items"
Moved Scythe of Vyse to "Luxury Items"
Removed Clarity x2
Removed Mjollnir

Arc Warden (Middle)
New Skill Build: E Q Q W Q R Q E E E R W W W R (1. Flux 2. spark Wraith 3. Magnetic Field)
Created New Tab: "Luxury Items"
Added Faerie Fire x2 to Starting Items
Added Assault Cuirass to Extension Items
Added Desolator to Extension Items
Moved Blink Dagger to Core Items
Moved Black King Bar to Situational Items
Moved Divine Rapier to "Luxury Items"
Moved Scythe of Vyse to "Luxury Items"
Removed Iron Branch
Removed Mjollnir

Disruptor
Removed Aether Lens
Removed Boots of Travel

Doom (Jungle)
New Skill Build: Q W W E W R W Q Q Q R E E E (1. Scorched Earth 2. Devour 3. Infernal Blade)

Enigma
Removed Aether Lens

Earth Spirit (Middle)
New Skill Build: W Q E Q Q R Q E E E R W W W R (1. Boulder Smash 2. Geomagnetic Grip 3. Rolling Boulder)
Moved Force Staff to Extension Items
Removed Blink Dagger
Removed Aether Lens

Earth Spirit (Lane)
New Skill Build: W Q E Q Q R Q E E E R W W W R (1. Boulder Smash 2. Geomagnetic Grip 3. Rolling Boulder)
Added Guardian Greaves to Core Items
Moved Force Staff to Extension Items
Moved Veil of Discord to Extension Items
Removed Blink Dagger
Removed Aether Lens
Removed Boots of Travel

Ember Spirit (Lane)
Added Enchanted Mango to Starting Items
Added Bottle to Early Game
Added Boots of Speed to Early Game
Added Manta Style to Extension Items
Added Boots of Travel - Level 2 to Luxury Items
Added Eye of Skadi to Luxury Items
Moved Ring of Aquila to Core Items
Moved Boots of Travel to Core Items
Moved Drums of Endurance to Situational Items
Moved Desolator to Situational Items
Moved Black King Bar to Situational Items
Moved Daedalus to Extension Items
Removed Iron Branch
Removed Phase Boots

Ember Spirit (Middle)
New Skill Build: Q E E Q E R E Q Q W W W W R R (1. Flame Guard 2. Searing Chains 3. Sleight of Fist)
Added Bottle to Early Game
Added Boots of Speed to Early Game
Added Manta Style to Extension Items
Added Boots of Travel - Level 2 to Luxury Items
Added Eye of Skadi to Luxury Items
Moved Ring of Aquila to Core Items
Moved Boots of Travel to Core Items
Moved Drums of Endurance to Situational Items
Moved Desolator to Situational Items
Moved Black King Bar to Situational Items
Moved Daedalus to Extension Items
Removed Iron Branch x2
Removed Stout Shield
Removed Phase Boots

Jakiro
New Skill Build: Q E W E E R E Q Q Q R W W W R (1. Liquid Fire 2. Dual Breath 3. Ice Path)
Added Rod of Atos to Situational Items
Removed Mekansm

Keeper of the Light
Moved Force Staff to Extension Items
Removed Aether Lens

Invoker
New Skill Build: W E Q Q W W W Q W Q W R W R E R E E E E E Q Q Q (1. Wex 2. Exort 1. Quas)
Added Black King Bar to Situational Items
Added Desolator to Extension Items
Added Daedalus to Extension Items
Moved Urn of Shadows to Core Items
Moved Drums of Endurance to Situational Items
Moved Refresher Orb to Luxury Items
Moved Scythe of Vyse to Luxury Items
Moved Octarine Core to Luxury Items
Removed Early Game tab
Removed Ghost Scepter

Lina (Lane)
Lina (Middle)
Added Aether Lens to Extension Items

Lion
Added Aether Lens to Extension Items

Nature's Prophet
Added Faerie Fire x2 to Starting Items
Added Hand of Midas to Early Game

Nyx Assasin (Lane)
Nyx Assasin (Middle)
Added Aether Lens to Core Items
Removed Dagon

Ogre Magi
New Skill Build: Q W Q W Q R Q E W W R E E E R (1. Fireblast 2. Ignite 3. Bloodlust
Added Enchanted Mango to Starting Items
Removed Iron Branch

Omniknight
Added Enchanted Mango to Starting Items
Added Aether Lens to Situational Items

Silencer (Middle)
New Skill Build: W E Q E E R E W W W R Q Q Q R (1. Last Word 2. Glaives of Wisdom 3. Arcane Curse)
Created New Tab: "Early Game"
Added Boots of Speed to "Early Game"
Added Hand of Midas to "Early Game"
Added Shadow Blade to Core Items
Added Silver Edge to Situational Items
Added Dragon Lance to Extension Items
Moved Bottle to "Early Game"
Moved Force Staff to Situational Items
Moved Refresher Orb to Extension Items

Shadow Shaman (Lane)
Shadow Shaman (Middle)
Added Aether Lens to Extension Items

Templar Assassin
Added Faerie Fire to Starting Items
Added Power Treads to Core Items
Removed Iron Branch
Removed Phase Boots

Windranger (Lane)
Added Iron Branch to Starting Items
Moved Blink Dagger to Core Items
Moved Maelstrom to Situational Items
Moved Force Staff to Situational Items

Windranger (Middle)
Moved Blink Dagger to Core Items
Moved Maelstrom to Situational Items
Moved Force Staff to Situational Items

Zeus
New Skill Build: Q E W W W R W Q Q Q R E E E R (1. Lightning Bolt 2. Arc Lightning 3. Static Field)
Created New Tab: "Luxury Items"
Moved Blink Dagger to Core Items
Moved Veil of Discord to Core Items
Moved Bloodstone to Extension Items
Moved Aghanim's Scepter to "Luxury Items
Moved Octarine Core to "Luxury Items"
Added Aether Lens to Extension Items
Removed Scythe of Vyse
Removed Glimmer Cape




To-Do:
Reduce the following lists:
Faerie Fire applicability?
+ Show Spoiler [Consider Heroes] +


(Lane/Jungle)

(Middle)
(Lane/Middle)


(Jungle)
(Lane/Middle)
(Lane/Middle)



(Lane/Middle)
(Lane)
(Lane)








(Lane/Middle)
(Lane)
(Lane/Middle)
(Lane/Middle)


Side-Shop Bottle?
+ Show Spoiler [Consider Heroes] +

(Lane)
(Lane)
(Lane)
(Lane, remove Soul Ring/Tranqs?)
(Lane)

(Lane)
(Lane)
(Lane)
(Lane)
(Lane)
(Lane)
(Lane)


(Lane)
(Lane)
(Lane)

(Lane)
(Lane)
(Lane)
(Lane)
(Lane)
(Lane)
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 27 2015 22:49 GMT
#5122
Last day for changes. 28th is publishing + stats.
Last stat update for this year. Another year fulfilled.
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Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
December 27 2015 22:49 GMT
#5123
Ember doesn't need his last two levels in his ulti until lvl 24 and 25.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-28 02:06:44
December 28 2015 02:02 GMT
#5124
On December 28 2015 07:49 Birdie wrote:
Ember doesn't need his last two levels in his ulti until lvl 24 and 25.

Sumail, Maybe, and Envy all actually level ult at 14 and 16.

It actually makes only a very small difference, but 24-25 ulti is probably right for guide-level play because only a more proficient Ember will be doing the sorts of things that make the 2nd and 3rd points in Ulti worth it at 14-16. 100 damage on a Remnant jump is not nothing though and a good enough Ember player will make good on that 100 damage often enough for it to be better than 2 points of Stats.

Most commonly you'll put a safety remnant in a jungle camp and the 100 damage will save you 1-2 autoattacks on doing that camp, repeated about once a minute when your Travels come off CD. Occasionally it'll mean the difference in a kill, but that's much more of an edge case.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 28 2015 07:40 GMT
#5125
I think the difference is negligible, but for the sake of imitating what's done at higher pub and competitive levels, we'll imitate.
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Matkinson
Profile Joined December 2015
3 Posts
December 28 2015 17:33 GMT
#5126
Aghs on Eldar Titan and ult description updated? and anything else I guess, didn't pay much attention :|
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 28 2015 20:31 GMT
#5127
On December 29 2015 02:33 Matkinson wrote:
Aghs on Eldar Titan and ult description updated? and anything else I guess, didn't pay much attention :|


What changed that made Aghs on Elder Titan worthwhile?
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-28 20:32:03
December 28 2015 20:31 GMT
#5128
Publishing Changes
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Gamerhcp
Profile Joined May 2015
734 Posts
December 28 2015 20:55 GMT
#5129
No Lens on Earth Spirit? Why?
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 28 2015 20:56 GMT
#5130
On December 29 2015 05:55 Gamerhcp wrote:
No Lens on Earth Spirit? Why?


It doesn't entirely work for all his abilities (Magnetic Grip yes, Bould Smash no); felt it was more counter-productive than useful.
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Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-28 21:44:31
December 28 2015 21:42 GMT
#5131
I find lens to be super useful on Kaolin. Smash already has more range than you ever need so the fact that aether doesn't work on it is w/e.

The grip range is a big deal. As the game progresses he tends to want to stand further and further away from fights, and being able to do the 1-rock QE and QEW combos from 200 units further out is really nice. It makes him wtfbroken if you ever get aghs as well.

I'd probably put it in situational or extension. Imo he's a top-10 lens hero. However, he's a bottom-3 hero for guidability, so it doesn't matter that much.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-28 22:00:15
December 28 2015 21:59 GMT
#5132
Grip's the only spell you actually NEED a range increase on, so it doesn't actually change much that it doesn't work on Smash. You very rarely hit things at absolute max range with Smash because of the slow projectile speed, so 200 more range on it wouldn't change anything. Grip actually does get cast at max range.
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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-29 02:47:02
December 29 2015 02:46 GMT
#5133
the grip range is only 100 less than a blink dagger (w/out lens) and since it no longer affects allies unless you have an agha, i would say lens is pretty mediocre over a blink/force staff.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 29 2015 04:02 GMT
#5134
I'll wait for it to be used competitively or in pubs before I'll apply it.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-29 04:02:42
December 29 2015 04:02 GMT
#5135
ed.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-01 00:11:13
December 29 2015 07:38 GMT
#5136
After ~15 days (December 13 to December 28), we have risen from 110,796,860 to 113,746,988 combined subscriptions

A difference of 2,950,128
Average Subscribers per Guide is 773,789.03
Growth Percentage is 2.66%


5 least popular guides (bottom being the least popular):
  1. Beastmaster (Middle) (127,811)
  2. Alchemist (Middle) (117,026)
  3. Brewmaster (Middle) (98,822)
  4. Shadow Shaman (Middle) (12,657)
  5. Warlock (Middle) (9,019)


5 most popular guides (top being the most popular):
  1. Lifestealer (Jungle)
  2. Sven
  3. Phantom Lancer
  4. Juggernaut
  5. Necrophos


Notable Growths in Subscriptions:
  • Sven (1,445,728 -> 1,476,025)
  • Phantom Lancer (1,404,001 -> 1,435,404)
  • Riki (1235326 -> 1273169)
  • Slark (Lane) (1,018,386 -> 1,045,160)
  • Spectre (1,018,289 -> 1,042,112)
  • Slardar (1,006,612 -> 1,037,034)
  • Tidehunter (999,696 -> 1,021,474)
  • Drow Ranger (976,517 -> 1,004,449)
  • Zeus (932,273 -> 971,273)
  • Ember Spirit (Middle) (852,529 -> 882,796)
  • Outworld Devourer (659,096 -> 683,277)
  • Ursa (Lane) (580,509 -> 611,809)
  • Invoker (569,534 -> 598,265)
  • Lina (Middle) (533,516 -> 563,038)
  • Windranger (Middle) (256,850 -> 310,169)


Newly Released Guides:
  • Arc Warden (Lane)
  • Arc Warden (Middle)




Patreon.com/Torte, this project continues to be made possible by the contributions of:

Alli Goss, Shaggy Rodgers, Josh Laseter, Leon Traill, Alishams Hassam, Duncan, Ramona Brown, Igor Dolgiy, Slashershot, Kurt Freda, WaifuGoneWild, JimmaDaRustla, Samuel Enocsson, Joel Absolom, Jordan Spense, Milk Jug Armadillo, Matthew Nami, Max Kemeny, Jose Cacho, Tobias Iskov Thomsen, Moe Foster, Daniel Thackray, Patrick Colton, Maxime Lebled, Patrick Schreck, Batlomieg Jan Pasek, Kevin Hutton, Dice, Scott Cherington, Mikey Kaminski, Pearson Mewbourne

Portions of their pledges will go to long-time community members, dedicated to providing feedback to keep this collection of hero builds accurate to current standards of play.

*this is the first month of crediting Patrons, preferred names (or online aliases) will be substituted in the future
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-29 08:26:42
December 29 2015 07:50 GMT
#5137
  • Growth of Subscribers stays steady above 2 million (since May 1, 2014)
  • This time reaching almost 3 million due to the new patch: 6.86 and subsequent patches. Other guides become dated, leaving our guides to be the only one remotely up-to-date (e.g Faceless Void)

  • 14.52% of last month's unique players [11,288,184] are subscribed to the our highest subscribed guide: Lifestealer (Jungle) Guide

  • Tidehunter (1,021,474)
  • Drow Ranger (1,004,449) recently hit the 1 million mark

  • Seven guides are currently swimming towards the 1 million mark: Medusa (991,579), Spirit Breaker (978,200), Magnus (976,625). Gyrocopter [Lane] (976,140), Ogre Magi (971,391), Zeus (971,273), Shadow Shaman [Lane] (962,422)

  • Top 41 guides are approx. 1Mill subscribers or higher each
  • Top 58 guides are approx. 900k subscribers or higher each
  • Top 78 guides are approx. 800k subscribers or higher each
  • Top 90 guides are approx. 700k subscribers or higher each
  • Top 112 guides are approx. 600k subscribers or higher each
  • Top 123 guides are approx. 500k subscribers or higher each
  • Top 130 guides are approx. 400k subscribers or higher each
  • Top 140 guides are approx. 300k subscribers or higher each
  • Top 142 guides are approx. 200k subscribers or higher each
  • Top 147 guides are approx. 100k subscribers or higher each
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-29 20:16:50
December 29 2015 20:16 GMT
#5138
ed..
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-30 02:01:48
December 29 2015 20:16 GMT
#5139
Faceless Void
Added Vladmir's Offering to Core Items
Added Butterfly To Extension Items
Added Assault Cuirass to Extension Items
Moved Sange and Yasha to Extension Items
Moved Refresher Orb to Luxury Items
Moved Aghanim's Scepter to Luxury Items
Removed Mask of Madness
Removed Daedalus

Outworld Devourer
New Skill Build: W E Q E E W W E R Q R Q Q W R (1. Essence Aura 2. Arcane Orb 3. Astral Imprisonment)




To-Do:
Reduce the following lists:
Faerie Fire applicability?
+ Show Spoiler [Consider Heroes] +


(Lane/Jungle)

(Middle)
(Lane/Middle)


(Jungle)
(Lane/Middle)
(Lane/Middle)



(Lane/Middle)
(Lane)
(Lane)








(Lane/Middle)
(Lane)
(Lane/Middle)
(Lane/Middle)


Side-Shop Bottle?
+ Show Spoiler [Consider Heroes] +

(Lane)
(Lane)
(Lane)
(Lane, remove Soul Ring/Tranqs?)
(Lane)

(Lane)
(Lane)
(Lane)
(Lane)
(Lane)
(Lane)
(Lane)


(Lane)
(Lane)
(Lane)

(Lane)
(Lane)
(Lane)
(Lane)
(Lane)
(Lane)
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Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-30 02:00:58
December 30 2015 01:57 GMT
#5140
On December 30 2015 05:16 Torte de Lini wrote:
gotta double-check OD skill build
Faceless Void itemization
QOP orchid build




To-Do:
Reduce the following lists:
Faerie Fire applicability?
+ Show Spoiler [Consider Heroes] +


(Lane/Jungle)

(Middle)
(Lane/Middle)


(Jungle)
(Lane/Middle)
(Lane/Middle)



(Lane/Middle)
(Lane)
(Lane)








(Lane/Middle)
(Lane)
(Lane/Middle)
(Lane/Middle)


Side-Shop Bottle?
+ Show Spoiler [Consider Heroes] +

(Lane)
(Lane)
(Lane)
(Lane, remove Soul Ring/Tranqs?)
(Lane)

(Lane)
(Lane)
(Lane)
(Lane)
(Lane)
(Lane)
(Lane)


(Lane)
(Lane)
(Lane)

(Lane)
(Lane)
(Lane)
(Lane)
(Lane)
(Lane)


Faery fire is pretty pointless on junglers. Idk personally I think it's overused across the board, but I might end up being wrong. I would only consider it "standard" on basedamage-oriented mids like qop.

Side shop bottle is pretty much exclusively for roamers who are going to go straight from there to a rune. That means roaming supports like BH/kaolin/ogre etc, and some solo offlaners who need regen anyway and might find themselves shoved out of lane (eg. bat, clock).

I wouldn't ever put it higher than situational, since it's pointless to get a sideshop bottle on a hero who's staying in lane. If you don't get a rune immediately after buying it, you just paid 660g for 90hp and now you need to take courier off your mid to bottle crow.
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