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On August 22 2015 21:39 Torte de Lini wrote:I updated Zeus:  ZeusNew Skill Build: Q E Q W W R W W E E R E Q Q R (1. Lightning Bolt 2. Static Field 3. Arc Lightning) Added Glimmer Cape to Situational Items Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items Moved Bloodstone to Core Items Moved Force Staff to Situational Items I wish I could edit the textboxes to explain two points in Q
I saw that build as well and didn't quite understand it.
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Is Bloodstone just a farming item on Zeus?
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On August 23 2015 01:15 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2015 21:39 Torte de Lini wrote:I updated Zeus: ZeusNew Skill Build: Q E Q W W R W W E E R E Q Q R (1. Lightning Bolt 2. Static Field 3. Arc Lightning) Added Glimmer Cape to Situational Items Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items Moved Bloodstone to Core Items Moved Force Staff to Situational Items I wish I could edit the textboxes to explain two points in Q I saw that build as well and didn't quite understand it.
you farm a lot faster
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On August 23 2015 01:31 Thetwinmasters wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2015 01:15 Torte de Lini wrote:On August 22 2015 21:39 Torte de Lini wrote:I updated Zeus: ZeusNew Skill Build: Q E Q W W R W W E E R E Q Q R (1. Lightning Bolt 2. Static Field 3. Arc Lightning) Added Glimmer Cape to Situational Items Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items Moved Bloodstone to Core Items Moved Force Staff to Situational Items I wish I could edit the textboxes to explain two points in Q I saw that build as well and didn't quite understand it. you farm a lot faster
edit: oh, now I see it
Ill fix it now.
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 Silencer (Lane)
Moved Rod of Atos to Core Items
Moved Mekansm to Situational Items
for some reason, this didn't apply to the guide
Silencer (Middle)
Moved Aghanim's Scepter to Extension Items
Moved Force Staff to Extension Items
Moved Rod of Atos to Extension Items
Nyx Assassin (Middle)
Moved Force Staff to Core Items
Moved Necromonicon to Extension Items
Moved Lotus Orb to Situational Items
Removed Ghost Scepter
Nyx Assassin (Lane)
New Skill Build: Q E Q W Q R Q E E E R W W W R (1. Impale 2. Spiked Carapace 3. Mana Burn)
Added Stout Shield to Starting Items
Moved Force Staff to Core Items
Moved Urn of Shadows to Situational Items
Moved Lotus Orb to Situational Items
Moved Vladmir's Offering to Extension Items
Moved Eul's Scepter of Divinity to Situational Items
Removed Iron Branch x2
 Lifestealer (Lane)
Added Desolator to Extension Items
Moved Sange and Yasha to Core Items
Removed Magic Wand
Removed Daedalus
Removed Heart of Tarrasque
Lifestealer (Jungle)
Added Desolator to Extension Items
Moved Sange and Yasha to Core Items
Removed Daedalus
Removed Heart of Tarrasque
Vengeful Spirit
Moved Glimmer Cape to Extension Items
Moved Vladmir's Offering to Extension Items
Moved Urn of Shadows to Situational Items
Removed Desolator
Removed Enchanted Mango
Zeus
New Skill Build: Q W W E W R W Q Q Q R E E E (1. Lightning Bolt 2. Arc Lightning 3. Static Field)
Added Glimmer Cape to Situational Items
Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items
Moved Bloodstone to Core Items
Moved Force Staff to Situational Items
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On August 23 2015 01:06 Thetwinmasters wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2015 21:39 Torte de Lini wrote:I updated Zeus: ZeusNew Skill Build: Q E Q W W R W W E E R E Q Q R (1. Lightning Bolt 2. Static Field 3. Arc Lightning) Added Glimmer Cape to Situational Items Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items Moved Bloodstone to Core Items Moved Force Staff to Situational Items I wish I could edit the textboxes to explain two points in Q the build is 4-4-1-2 on zeus not this 2-4-3-2 thing
2-4-1-1 into max q to be exact.
@bucky yes and no. The mana regen is great for farming and gives you a little tank so you can fight too and build up some charges. Personally I like to wait until I get blink to fight bc it's safer but ofc if someone is diving your allies, go fight and build up some charges.
@torte zeus build doesn't look updated
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United States47024 Posts
4-4-1 Zeus goes hand-in-hand with Bloodstone. You can't support 4-4-1 without the aggressive mana regen from Bloodstone (15 more mana cost on a spell with 1.75s CD adds up really fast), and Bloodstone isn't worth it as 1st item unless you're abusing rank 4 Arc Lightning to farm.
1-4-4/2-4-3 (the 2nd rank of Arc is gotten in that case just for laning) does more damage to heroes (especially since Static Field is "free" damage that doesn't make your spells more expensive) and has easier mana management, but rank 1 Arc farms super slow, and with the game as it is right now, an underfarmed Zeus is a huge liability because with Glimmer Cape in the game, you get useless fast if your items can't keep up.
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On August 23 2015 05:30 BluemoonSC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2015 01:06 Thetwinmasters wrote:On August 22 2015 21:39 Torte de Lini wrote:I updated Zeus: ZeusNew Skill Build: Q E Q W W R W W E E R E Q Q R (1. Lightning Bolt 2. Static Field 3. Arc Lightning) Added Glimmer Cape to Situational Items Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items Moved Bloodstone to Core Items Moved Force Staff to Situational Items I wish I could edit the textboxes to explain two points in Q the build is 4-4-1-2 on zeus not this 2-4-3-2 thing 2-4-1-1 into max q to be exact. @bucky yes and no. The mana regen is great for farming and gives you a little tank so you can fight too and build up some charges. Personally I like to wait until I get blink to fight bc it's safer but ofc if someone is diving your allies, go fight and build up some charges. @torte zeus build doesn't look updated
It's updated no?
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On August 23 2015 20:05 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2015 05:30 BluemoonSC wrote:On August 23 2015 01:06 Thetwinmasters wrote:On August 22 2015 21:39 Torte de Lini wrote:I updated Zeus: ZeusNew Skill Build: Q E Q W W R W W E E R E Q Q R (1. Lightning Bolt 2. Static Field 3. Arc Lightning) Added Glimmer Cape to Situational Items Added Boots of Travel to Extension Items Moved Bloodstone to Core Items Moved Force Staff to Situational Items I wish I could edit the textboxes to explain two points in Q the build is 4-4-1-2 on zeus not this 2-4-3-2 thing 2-4-1-1 into max q to be exact. @bucky yes and no. The mana regen is great for farming and gives you a little tank so you can fight too and build up some charges. Personally I like to wait until I get blink to fight bc it's safer but ofc if someone is diving your allies, go fight and build up some charges. @torte zeus build doesn't look updated It's updated no?
2nd point in Q before max W makes it easier to last hit in lane and takes 1-2 less casts to kill jungle creeps if someone was stacking for you. It's optional, but for the ppl guides are aimed at I'm sure it's worth putting in.
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United States47024 Posts
MKB's practically core because Solar Crest exists.
Core should be Medallion Deso BKB.
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SoCal8910 Posts
Ive seen a lot of soul ring medallion deso solar crest recently.
Medallion deso at the bare minimum is probably perfect for a guide.
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btw is diffusal in situational for clinkz? cuz getting to kill the target you want 4 seconds earlier if they have ghost scepter is probably pretty nice
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United States47024 Posts
On August 24 2015 08:59 BluemoonSC wrote:
Ive seen a lot of soul ring medallion deso solar crest recently.
Medallion deso at the bare minimum is probably perfect for a guide.
Medallion actually stacks with Solar Crest, so whether you finish Solar depends on whether someone else is going to get Medallion/Solar. If no one else is getting Solar, you definitely want it, but if someone else is, you actually want to keep Medallion so you can stack both debuffs.
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On August 24 2015 06:59 TheYango wrote:
MKB's practically core because Solar Crest exists.
Core should be Medallion Deso BKB.
i'm pretty sure mkb is core on every hero that right clicks now
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United States47024 Posts
Until Solar Crest gets nerfed, that's more or less true.
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On August 24 2015 10:09 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2015 08:59 BluemoonSC wrote:
Ive seen a lot of soul ring medallion deso solar crest recently.
Medallion deso at the bare minimum is probably perfect for a guide. Medallion actually stacks with Solar Crest, so whether you finish Solar depends on whether someone else is going to get Medallion/Solar. If no one else is getting Solar, you definitely want it, but if someone else is, you actually want to keep Medallion so you can stack both debuffs.
I actually didn't know they stacked!
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On August 24 2015 10:00 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
btw is diffusal in situational for clinkz? cuz getting to kill the target you want 4 seconds earlier if they have ghost scepter is probably pretty nice
I think the play is to get a sheep at that point but I'm not 100% positive on that one
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On August 24 2015 10:09 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2015 08:59 BluemoonSC wrote:
Ive seen a lot of soul ring medallion deso solar crest recently.
Medallion deso at the bare minimum is probably perfect for a guide. Medallion actually stacks with Solar Crest, so whether you finish Solar depends on whether someone else is going to get Medallion/Solar. If no one else is getting Solar, you definitely want it, but if someone else is, you actually want to keep Medallion so you can stack both debuffs.
What a minute, that means if you're doing rosh you can solar crest it, disassemble and medallion it and get -17 armor for 3k gold. LOL.
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