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BluemoonSC
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2 items because they're saving for a big item that will never come bc they cant farm and fighting is always occurring sporadically. if lower level players just get their small stepping stones, i think they'll be in a good place. i know we started talking about void's skill build but i think this discussion is important too. | ||
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/hCaQFw1.png) 1 million unique for Storm Spirit If interested in a timeline of 1 million hits and milestones, you can check it here: http://steamcommunity.com/id/0825771 | ||
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On August 15 2015 00:00 BluemoonSC wrote: yeah idk if you guys remember your first 50 games or so but they probably all looked like this 2 items because they're saving for a big item that will never come bc they cant farm and fighting is always occurring sporadically. if lower level players just get their small stepping stones, i think they'll be in a good place. i know we started talking about void's skill build but i think this discussion is important too. I think the issue is that we all have varying views of how newbies play. Both for easier characters that the newer players start with and more advanced players who are just unfamiliar with the hero. There is also the conflicting part where we are advocating for the standard way of play; which is ambiguous in its own defintiion when using it as a ruler to decide how much emphasis we put on early-game purchases. | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
u have to get it a lot but if u don't HAVE to get it its so ass orchid is definitely also not an "extension" item its either a first item or else a 2nd item if your bloodstone was well timed and you are on tempo for a very fast 2nd item. no self respecting storm in the history of dota has bought a skadi i don't think | ||
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On August 15 2015 00:57 Sn0_Man wrote: bkb is so not core on storm u have to get it a lot but if u don't HAVE to get it its so ass orchid is definitely also not an "extension" item its either a first item or else a 2nd item if your bloodstone was well timed and you are on tempo for a very fast 2nd item. no self respecting storm in the history of dota has bought a skadi i don't think Yes, I was thinking the same as well as we've been shifting away from Black King Bar. About 8 months ago, I remember it being bought. I've shifted MKB and Linken's there instead. On August 15 2015 00:48 ahswtini wrote: just me but i think aquila shud be core in void build, and wand should not be Professionally, we see PMS and Magic Wand bought. | ||
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BoZiffer
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TheYango
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
On August 15 2015 01:03 Torte de Lini wrote: Yes, I was thinking the same as well as we've been shifting away from Black King Bar. About 8 months ago, I remember it being bought. I've shifted MKB and Linken's there instead. Professionally, we see PMS and Magic Wand bought. is void even played professionally?? | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On August 15 2015 02:44 Torte de Lini wrote: Something a bit difficult to to denote without textboxes. So do we want to keep it just dagon 1 or dagon 5 If it's a hero with Dagon core, then make the core Dagon 1 and put Dagon 5 in extension or situational. | ||
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BluemoonSC
SoCal8910 Posts
ya i was thinking the same thing lol..i cant remember the last time i saw void in a pro match | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
As early as 3 months ago and by pro players in public games as well. | ||
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On August 15 2015 03:15 TheYango wrote: If it's a hero with Dagon core, then make the core Dagon 1 and put Dagon 5 in extension or situational. This is a good idea, I'll do that before stats tomorrow. | ||
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Pit Lord (Lane) Skill Build: E Q Q W Q R Q W W W R E E E R (1. 2. 3.) Starting Items: Stout Shield, 2x Iron Branch, Tangos, Clarity Early Game: Boots of Speed, Magic Wand Core Items: Arcane Boots, Mekansm, Eul's Scepter of Divinity Situational Items: Vladmir's Offering, Blademail, Rod of Atos, Pipe of Insight Extension Items: Necromonicon, Guardian Greaves, Assault Cuirass, Shiva's Guard, Scythe of Vyse Luxury Items: Boots of Travel, Refresher's Orb, Octarine Core Draft Guide Pit Lord (Middle) Skill Build: E Q Q W Q R Q W W W R E E E R (1. Firestorm 2. Pit of Malice 3. Atrophy Aura) Starting Items: Stout Shield, Tangos, 2x Iron Branch Early Game: Bottle, Boots of Speed, Magic Wand Core Items: Arcane Boots, Eul's Scepter of Divinity Situational Items: Vladmir's Offering, Blademail, Rod of Atos, Pipe of Insight Extension Items: Necromonicon, Guardian Greaves, Assault Cuirass, Shiva's Guard, Scythe of Vyse Luxury Items: Boots of Travel, Refresher's Orb, Octarine Core Chaos Knight Added Sange and Yasha to Situational Items Moved Monkey King Bar to Extension Items  EnigmaAdded Guardian Greaves to Extension Items moved mekansm to be before blink dagger Moved Refresher's Orb to Extension Items Removed Boots of Travel Removed Power Treads  Leshrac (Middle)Added Circlet of Nobility to Starting Items Moved Glimmer Cape to Situational Items Moved Aghanim's Scepter to Extension Items Moved Black King Bar to Extension Items Removed Veil of Discord Removed Mantle of Intelligence Leshrac (Lane)New Skill Build: E Q E Q E QE Q R W R W W W R (1. Lightning Storm 2. Split Earth 3. Diabolic Edict) Added Ghost Scepter to Situational Items Moved Black King Bar to Extension Items Removed Lotus Orb Removed Bottle  Phantom LancerAdded Ring of Protection to Starting Items Added Diffusal Blade - Level 2 to Extension Items Removed Clarity x2  Banefixed necromonicon to Level 3 Moved Glimmer Cape to Core items Moved Force Staff to Extension Items Moved Rod of Atos to Situational Items  Batriderfixed necromonicon to Level 3 Bounty Hunter Added Dagon - Level 5 to Situational Items  BroodmotherAdded Dagon - Level 5 to Situational Items Added Abyssal Blade to Extension Items fixed necromonicon to Level 3 Moved Hand of Midas to Situational Items Moved Desolator to Core Items Moved Necromonicon to Situational Items Moved Monkey King Bar to Extension Items Removed Radiance Removed Skull Basher  Doom (Lane)moved blink dagger to before aghanim's scepter Lycan (Lane) fixed necromonicon to Level 3 Moved Necromonicon to Situational Items moved vladmir's offering before power treads Storm Spirit Moved Orchid of Malevolence to Core Items Moved Black King Bar to Extension Items Moved Linken's Sphere to Luxury Items Moved Monkey King Bar to Luxury Items Removed Eye of Skadi Lycan (Jungle) fixed necromonicon to Level 3 Nyx Assassin (Lane) fixed necromonicon to Level 3 Nyx Assassin (Middle) Added Dagon - Level 5 to Situational Items fixed necromonicon to Level 3 Necrophos Added Dagon - Level 5 to Situational Items Nature's Prophet fixed necromonicon to Level 3  Pugnafixed necromonicon to Level 3 fixed Dagon to Level 5 | ||
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/BSvkorf.png) 1 million unique for  Shadow FiendIf interested in a timeline of 1 million hits and milestones, you can check it here: http://steamcommunity.com/id/0825771 | ||
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I really want to fix this topic to be more of a better hub. At least have the icons tabled instead of one long list. I don't know. At least have a header that states the current bugs that prevents certain updates (textboxes broken, Beastmaster guide broken). | ||
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