EPTIn-Game Standard Hero Builds Project - Page 190
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Shadow Blade will resume as core and Silver Edge will go as Extension, there are exceptions to this of course (depends on the hero + synergy) | ||
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On July 13 2015 10:35 ahswtini wrote: in wat way does the hero affect whether or not u want to upgrade to sedge asap??? It's not always necessary or other items may be a higher general priority. | ||
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It doesn't work for me at all. | ||
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On July 13 2015 19:19 Torte de Lini wrote: It's not always necessary or other items may be a higher general priority. but what does the hero have to do with it? what heroes want silver edge more than lothars?? | ||
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On July 13 2015 20:05 ahswtini wrote: but what does the hero have to do with it? what heroes want silver edge more than lothars?? It's more: which heroes (I haven't looked into it yet) want to go Silver Edge before going onto equally good items? So instead of having Silver Edge on Core which implies that they need to get it. It will go to Extension where it becomes a choice. Some heroes benefit just from the invisibility and others can take advantage of the maim, minimal extra health and upgrade in damage + break. The obvious answer is: depends on the enemy line-up and how well or poorly you're doing. Sadly that can't be distinguished in such limited spacing, so it's a balancing act. If you have a point you want to make, you should post it instead of quizzing me, so I can adjust these guides accordingly. | ||
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On July 14 2015 11:42 BluemoonSC wrote: i think he's implying, and based on your response, that you should probably do that for all heroes and not leave out anyone. I couldn't understand, but this is much more direct and clear, thank you for clarifying and I'm sorry Ahswtini. Shadow Blade will be the default with Silver Edge is a potential possibility for certain heroes. | ||
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I really need to innovate the Nature's Prophet guide. | ||
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as for weaver, for me, he's tricky to build because he is so squishy but you want to take advantage of his geminate with high dmg items like deso, which should definitely be core IMO. really, he's a glass cannon and should be taking advantage of his shukuchi to position himself properly or just avoid fights until he's fully online. IMO linkens should be under situational, because i've seen weavers pick it up even when there are no targeted stuns (which is really good for a weaver, and probably the only circumstance i would pick him) Natures - there's not really much to the hero although im surprised blink dagger is missing oh and tinkers are typically going for some variation 2-2-0 build before maxing march IIRC one last edit..i hate you for JUST putting force staff in for abaddon..would have saved me a million in a half times over the course of the last game i played  | ||
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On July 15 2015 01:16 Buckyman wrote: Why does Leshrac (Middle) have Tranquil boots as an extension item? When I first made it, I was being needlessly cautious. I've been playing a lot of Leshrac recently; so I will change it to Boots of Travel. | ||
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On July 15 2015 00:22 TheYango wrote: Weaver depends whether you want to endorse 1-4-1-1 + Stats as standard. 1-4-1-1 then max E | ||
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On July 14 2015 22:44 BluemoonSC wrote: okay, but then to his point, what heroes are getting silver edge as core and why? as for weaver, for me, he's tricky to build because he is so squishy but you want to take advantage of his geminate with high dmg items like deso, which should definitely be core IMO. really, he's a glass cannon and should be taking advantage of his shukuchi to position himself properly or just avoid fights until he's fully online. IMO linkens should be under situational, because i've seen weavers pick it up even when there are no targeted stuns (which is really good for a weaver, and probably the only circumstance i would pick him) Natures - there's not really much to the hero although im surprised blink dagger is missing oh and tinkers are typically going for some variation 2-2-0 build before maxing march IIRC one last edit..i hate you for JUST putting force staff in for abaddon..would have saved me a million in a half times over the course of the last game i played Legion Commander (we kept the choice between Blink and Silver Edge) and other heroes who enjoy the extra damage as a whole (Kunkka per chance)? I haven't taken a closer look, but that was my initial thought. Slark as well perhaps. Nature's: His build is just all wrong and even poorly structured; I want to make it more lean and straight-forward. I saw both 2-2 and also the current build tinker has. As for Abaddon: ha, yeah. That's actually someone who told me that no Force Staff was criminal and that I should aim to use these guides to educate players even more. | ||
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kunkka, im gonna disagree with solely because you aren't always going to want to run up to the enemy and right click them with that bonus dmg. it should be situational because this depends on the game. slark is situational as well. if you look at what you get from the upgraded silver edge, you get +10 dmg, no attack speed increase, an additional burst of 50 dmg and a 5sec break/dmg reduction. in certain situations, like you're playing against a PA, the debuff is great..however once bkb's come online, that benefit is gone and you could have had something like a basher, skadi, ac, etc and this is true of pretty much any hero that wants to buy this item. so you have to highly consider the game state when you're thinking about upgrading past lothar. that's why it is situational more often than not. RE: tinker, i would argue that 2-2 offers you more solo kill potential in the lane or if you get a haste or go fountain and rotate to one of the side lanes, but that's up to you. and as for force staff..it is definitely criminal to not have it in any support guides | ||
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