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United States47024 Posts
I mean, it's just super weird to figure out a time when you actually want to get it.
Early game, the Bear doesn't do much damage on it's own, so you really need damage items for it to actually hit meaningfully hard. By the time the bear actually has damage, it's survivability is actually starting to be a problem relative to yours (in particular, it needs AC really badly because of it's lack of armor growth).
There are some specific teamcomps where I could see the Agha being situational due to it really being easier for the enemy team to dive you and kill you once over killing the Bear twice, but usually by the time the Bear does enough damage for Agha's benefits to be worth it, the Bear is usually the easier kill anyway, especially given how much free stats you get from True Form.
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On May 18 2015 01:21 Torte de Lini wrote:
Double-Check Centaur Warrunner bukds
> double-check spelling of "builds"
:p
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On May 18 2015 01:22 eieio wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2015 01:21 Torte de Lini wrote:
Double-Check Centaur Warrunner bukds
> double-check spelling of "builds" :p
done
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Just played Razor tonight and noticed Mek wasn't in the guide. Not sure if that's oversight or intentional.
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On May 20 2015 13:34 Coolsnow7 wrote:
Just played Razor tonight and noticed Mek wasn't in the guide. Not sure if that's oversight or intentional.
Previously he didn't get Meka; I think S4 does it now; but most don't since his mana is a bit thin for it.
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Northern Ireland22212 Posts
are you sure? razor mid building mek was pretty common before all the mek nerfs. you built mek for the sustain and teamfight utility it gives. pretty much the same reason vipers built mek, except razor uses a little more mana so the nerfs hit him harder. still, i consider razor mek to be situational
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Czech Republic18921 Posts
Skilling bugs past 1 level is absolutely not worth in on weaver, stats are much better. I like getting stats even over more levels of geminate attack (1/4/1 and stats), but that one is really close. I start taking more levels in geminate when I'm really comfortable with my survival, usually around level 14 or something. I think you could move to core instead of linkens. Linkens is really situational, there are games when it's pretty much useless. You definitely want desolator in more games than linkens. And rushing it is more viable, because it costs less now and if you're taking stats (which you really really should) you're a little more tanky, so you shouldn't die. Also, Lotus Orb should definitely be in situational items, the low cooldown dispel is amazing against silences.
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On May 20 2015 17:41 ahswtini wrote:
are you sure? razor mid building mek was pretty common before all the mek nerfs. you built mek for the sustain and teamfight utility it gives. pretty much the same reason vipers built mek, except razor uses a little more mana so the nerfs hit him harder. still, i consider razor mek to be situational
Didnt the meka build die off with the meta changing away +++ the increased mana cost, dissuading heroes like viper, bristle and razor from buying it? I havent seen many player still building meka except S4. Most to S&y, Aghanims, etc.
Thoughts?
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On May 20 2015 20:13 cecek wrote:
Skilling bugs past 1 level is absolutely not worth in on weaver, stats are much better. I like getting stats even over more levels of geminate attack (1/4/1 and stats), but that one is really close. I start taking more levels in geminate when I'm really comfortable with my survival, usually around level 14 or something. I think you could move to core instead of linkens. Linkens is really situational, there are games when it's pretty much useless. You definitely want desolator in more games than linkens. And rushing it is more viable, because it costs less now and if you're taking stats (which you really really should) you're a little more tanky, so you shouldn't die. Also, Lotus Orb should definitely be in situational items, the low cooldown dispel is amazing against silences.
Weaver builds are a bit dated, so ill take a closer look. You are very likely correct on skill builds
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Northern Ireland22212 Posts
On May 20 2015 22:02 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2015 17:41 ahswtini wrote:
are you sure? razor mid building mek was pretty common before all the mek nerfs. you built mek for the sustain and teamfight utility it gives. pretty much the same reason vipers built mek, except razor uses a little more mana so the nerfs hit him harder. still, i consider razor mek to be situational Didnt the meka build die off with the meta changing away +++ the increased mana cost, dissuading heroes like viper, bristle and razor from buying it? I havent seen many player still building meka except S4. Most to S&y, Aghanims, etc. Thoughts?
sure but i still believe it's situational
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On May 20 2015 20:13 cecek wrote:
Skilling bugs past 1 level is absolutely not worth in on weaver, stats are much better. I like getting stats even over more levels of geminate attack (1/4/1 and stats), but that one is really close. I start taking more levels in geminate when I'm really comfortable with my survival, usually around level 14 or something. I think you could move to core instead of linkens. Linkens is really situational, there are games when it's pretty much useless. You definitely want desolator in more games than linkens. And rushing it is more viable, because it costs less now and if you're taking stats (which you really really should) you're a little more tanky, so you shouldn't die. Also, Lotus Orb should definitely be in situational items, the low cooldown dispel is amazing against silences.
Actually I've heard 4-4-1 is the build these days
new bugs are not even similar to old bugs, they are wayyyyyy better.
yes stats were really good on weaver but you can buy stats if u have to, you can't buy bugs
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Czech Republic18921 Posts
On May 20 2015 23:14 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2015 20:13 cecek wrote:
Skilling bugs past 1 level is absolutely not worth in on weaver, stats are much better. I like getting stats even over more levels of geminate attack (1/4/1 and stats), but that one is really close. I start taking more levels in geminate when I'm really comfortable with my survival, usually around level 14 or something. I think you could move to core instead of linkens. Linkens is really situational, there are games when it's pretty much useless. You definitely want desolator in more games than linkens. And rushing it is more viable, because it costs less now and if you're taking stats (which you really really should) you're a little more tanky, so you shouldn't die. Also, Lotus Orb should definitely be in situational items, the low cooldown dispel is amazing against silences. Actually I've heard 4-4-1 is the build these days new bugs are not even similar to old bugs, they are wayyyyyy better. yes stats were really good on weaver but you can buy stats if u have to, you can't buy bugs
That's the first time I've heard that. I have a hard time believing that's a good idea. The only thing leveling up bugs does is make them attack faster, and a mostly irrelevant cooldown reduction. The difference between level 1 and level 4 bugs is them attacking at 1.4s and 0.95s intervals. Let's say someone had the bug on himself for 5 seconds, level 1 bug is going to attack the target 3 times, and the level 4 bug 5 times. I don't see that as a massive difference at all, especially considering 5 seconds is a really long time, most of the times you're not get the bug to stick for that long, either the enemy or the bug is gonna die in that amount of time.
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United States47024 Posts
Bugs 2-4 are still good, it's just rank 1 sucks way less than it did before. Skill order's pretty situational, since rank 4 bugs are still good for fighting (even though the duration/damage got re-scaled, rank 4 bugs still does a shitton of damage early game to supports with low attack speed), but Stats and Geminate have more appeal for different types of games.
I'd probably take a few points stats from 8-10, but I probably wouldn't put off Bugs 2-4 to 23-25, since attacking faster means they apply the -armor faster, so even if they wont last the full duration, they still have some usefulness.
On May 20 2015 23:24 cecek wrote:
I don't see that as a massive difference at all, especially considering 5 seconds is a really long time, most of the times you're not get the bug to stick for that long, either the enemy or the bug is gonna die in that amount of time.
Unless multiple people are attacking the same person's bugs, most non-carry heroes can't get 4 attacks in faster than 5 seconds until somewhat late in the game.
The big appeal of the faster attack isn't those 2 extra damage instances in 5s, it's the 2 extra instances of -armor. The old bugs applied the -armor at a fixed rate, so once you got like 2 ranks, you ceased to really benefit from a -armor perspective, even though the damage continued to scale aggressively. Now the damage scales much less aggressively, but the faster attack rate means faster -armor application, so the skill ranks stay useful longer when you don't really care about the skill's damage but care about the -armor.
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I'm noticing Spirit Breaker going a lot less points in charge and back to maxing W and E. Also, getting a lot bigger items than just Urn/Blade Mail.
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