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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
May 11 2015 17:02 GMT
#3461
earthshock is often the difference between getting a kill and not getting a kill... i'd get it at level 3 at the latest in lane (and arguably still by 5 in the jungle considering ursa ganks on the safe and midlane can happen)
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-12 16:34:58
May 11 2015 23:08 GMT
#3462
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 12 2015 16:34 GMT
#3463
Necrophos -> Guardian Greaves now?

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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 12 2015 16:38 GMT
#3464
Generally not since you want treads on necro most of the time for tankiness and for abusing toggling with ur spells and regen passive.

If you have mana boots and mek AND are slot constrained, sure. That doesn't happen very often, and when it does one would hope people could figure it out themselves.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-15 06:04:56
May 12 2015 17:06 GMT
#3465
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-12 22:15:42
May 12 2015 22:15 GMT
#3466
also thinking about making a core Necrophos build that doesnt go meka (or make it a separate mid version?)
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-12 22:22:12
May 12 2015 22:21 GMT
#3467
On May 13 2015 07:15 Torte de Lini wrote:
also thinking about making a core Necrophos build that doesnt go meka (or make it a separate mid version?)

yea honestly blink dagon is often better in pubs

actually im not sure if that's true but it certainly is more fun

early midas can be nice if you know your team's not gonna get run over
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 13 2015 02:17 GMT
#3468
As long as it's not Ancients Necro.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-15 07:45:12
May 15 2015 06:04 GMT
#3469
On May 13 2015 11:17 TheYango wrote:
As long as it's not Ancients Necro.


Probably, Bottle -> Treads -> Dagon -> Blink -> Aghanim's.
Still not sure if it is worthwhile.




On another note, we're seeing huge climbs in subscriptions:

Juggernaut: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=129083818 (995k)
Riki: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=128745244 (877k)
Phantom Lancer: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=129093311 (950k)

Massive jumps for a lot of guides, hoping for a massive jump of 3 million (as opposed to the usual 2-2.5 million)
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-16 16:13:06
May 15 2015 06:10 GMT
#3470
Ember Spirit (Lane)
Added Quelling Blade to Early Game

Undying
Added Iron Branch to Starting Items
Added Glimmer Cape to Situational Items
Added Guardian Greaves to Extension Items
Added Solar Crest to Situational Items
Removed Heaven's Halberd
Removed Necromonicon

Vengeful Spirit
Added Glimmer Cape to Situational Items

Lich
Added Glimmer Cape to Extension Items

Ursa (Jungle)
New Skill Build: E W E W E R E Q W W R Q Q Q R (1. Fury Swipes 2. Overpower 3. Earthshock)

Ursa (Lane)
New Skill Build: E W E W Q R E E W W R Q Q Q (1. Fury Swipes 2. Overpower 3. Earthshock)

Leshrac (Middle)
Added Glimmer Cape to Extension Items
Added Tranquil Boots to Extension Items
Removed Power Treads
Removed Lotus Orb

Wraith King
Added Assault Cuirass to Extension Items

Medusa
Added Echanted Mango to Situational Items

Tusk
Added Silver Edge to Situational Items
Added Heart of Tarrasque to Extension Items
Removed Glimmer Cape
Removed Daedalus

Gyrocopter (Lane)
New Skill Build: Q W E Q Q R Q E E E R W W W R (1. Rocket Barrage 2. Flak Cannon 3. Homing Missile)
Added Sange & Yasha to Core Items
Moved Helm of the Dominator to Core Items
Moved Drums of Endurance to Situational Items

Slark (Lane)
Slark (Middle)
Moved Eye of Skadi to Core Items
Removed Shadow Blade it's Silver Edge before Black King Bar now
Removed Tab: "Small Purchases"
Removed Vladmir's Offering

Drow Ranger
Added Silver Edge to Situational Items
Removed Yasha
Removed Glimmer Cape

Luna
Added Sange & Yasha to Situational Items
Added Moon Shard to Extension Items
Removed Yasha



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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-16 16:14:00
May 16 2015 16:10 GMT
#3471
http://steamcommunity.com/app/570/guides/?searchText=&browsefilter=toprated&browsesort=creationorder&requiredtags[]=English&requiredtags[]=Hero Build#scrollTop=266.6666666666667

-- Latest patch has really made a lot of low-ranking guides to be among the highest rated.
Specifically Leshrac and Lina who, if I recall, someone asked here why they were not popular at all.

Now they are, incredible to see live.

On March 03 2015 02:05 Logo wrote:
Show nested quote +
Troll Warlord (Middle) (779 -> 19,815)


Was this a new guide or just really really impressive growth?

Show nested quote +
Lina (Middle) (317)


This is surprising since Lina Mid is popular now and the guide seems up to date with how mid lina is being played.


found it
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tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7080 Posts
May 16 2015 17:26 GMT
#3472
Some points re: Lone Druid

-Aghs is very much core after radiance, it lets you farm way faster

-MKB should be in situational items

-I've been taking a value point in rabid (usually at level 4), very good for pushing towers if your opponent leaves the lane
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 17 2015 00:19 GMT
#3473
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1 Million, fourth guide to hit it
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 17 2015 00:22 GMT
#3474
On May 17 2015 02:26 tehh4ck3r wrote:
Some points re: Lone Druid

-Aghs is very much core after radiance, it lets you farm way faster

-MKB should be in situational items

-I've been taking a value point in rabid (usually at level 4), very good for pushing towers if your opponent leaves the lane


ill update it after I do the stats
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Doomblaze
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1292 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-17 10:29:09
May 17 2015 10:19 GMT
#3475
please dont get aghs on bear after radiance. Radi already increases your farm, and dropping 4.2k on an item thats not gonna help your bear live after they get enough damage to threaten it is gonna be bad.

Rabid before your ulti isnt worth it. If you want to take towers early you need to battlecry and have demolish on your bear. A point at rabid at level 8 or 9 is alright sometimes. Level 1 rabid is pretty bad.

MKB is really good tho.

Situationally I would never buy SnY on luna. Manta is way too good with glaives. Literally any other 4k item is better.
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Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-17 11:19:27
May 17 2015 11:18 GMT
#3476
Yeah I don't see any point in radi->aghs on druid.

Half the point of radiance is to allow your bear to burn down waves while it's away from you. Having it hit them as well gives steeply diminishing returns, especially when the radi->AC timing is so central to the hero.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-17 14:59:02
May 17 2015 14:58 GMT
#3477
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 17 2015 14:59 GMT
#3478
On May 17 2015 19:19 Doomblaze wrote:
please dont get aghs on bear after radiance. Radi already increases your farm, and dropping 4.2k on an item thats not gonna help your bear live after they get enough damage to threaten it is gonna be bad.

Rabid before your ulti isnt worth it. If you want to take towers early you need to battlecry and have demolish on your bear. A point at rabid at level 8 or 9 is alright sometimes. Level 1 rabid is pretty bad.

MKB is really good tho.

Situationally I would never buy SnY on luna. Manta is way too good with glaives. Literally any other 4k item is better.


I'll remove it, but I need more situational items for Luna
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 17 2015 14:59 GMT
#3479
On May 17 2015 20:18 Belisarius wrote:
Yeah I don't see any point in radi->aghs on druid.

Half the point of radiance is to allow your bear to burn down waves while it's away from you. Having it hit them as well gives steeply diminishing returns, especially when the radi->AC timing is so central to the hero.


I haven't seen it gotten on Dotabuff all that much either, so I guess it really isn't all that worthwhile
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-17 15:00:14
May 17 2015 15:00 GMT
#3480
stats updating
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