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6.84 Guide Revisions - will be applied to page 170 patch notes
 Alchemist (Lane)
New Skill Build: E W W Q W R W Q Q Q R E E E (1. Unstable Concoction 2. Acid Spray 3. Greevil's Greed)
Starting Items: Tango, Stout Shield, 2x Iron Branch
Early Game: Magic Wand, Boots of Speed
Core Items: Power Treads, Medallion of Courage, Shadow Blade, Solar Crest, Silver Edge
Situational Items: Blink Dagger, Blade Mail, Solar Crest, Black King Bar, Armlet of Mordiggan
Extension Items: Mjollnir, Abyssal Blade, Daedalus, Butterfly
Luxury Items: Boots of Travel, Moon Shard, Aghanim's Scepter
Alchemist (Middle)
New Skill Build: E Q Q W Q R Q W W W R E E E (1. Acid Spray 2. Unstable Concoction 3. Greevil's Greed)
Starting Items: Tango, Stout Shield, Clarity
Early Game: Bottle, Boots of Speed
Core Items: Power Treads, Medallion of Courage, Shadow Blade, Armlet of Mordiggan
Situational Items: Quelling Blade, Blink Dagger, Blade Mail, Solar Crest, Black King Bar, Solar Crest
Extension Items: Mjollnir, Abyssal Blade, Daedalus, Butterfly
Luxury Items: Boots of Travel, Moon Shard, Aghanim's Scepter
 Axe (Jungle)
Axe (Lane)
Readded Black King Bar to Situational Items
Centaur Warrunner
Added Hood of Defiance to Core Items
Added Black King Bar to Situational Items
Moved Aghanim's Scepter to Extension Items
 Enigma
Added Glimmer Cape to Situational Items
 Leshrac (Middle)
Added Bloodstone to Core Items
Added Octarine Core to Extension Items
 Medusa
Readded Black King Bar to Situational Items
Necrophos
Added Octarine Core to Extension Items
Night Stalker
Readded Aghanim's Scepter to Extension Items
 Timbersaw
Added Enchanted Mango to Situational Items
 Tinker
Added Upgraded Boots of Travel to Luxury Items
 Tusk (Lane)
New Skill Build: W QQ W Q R Q W W E R E E E R (1. Ice Shards 2. Snowball 3. Frozen Sigil)
 Undying
Added Lotus Orb to Situational Items
New Guide
Windranger (Middle)
New Skill Build: E W W Q W R W Q Q Q R E E E (1. Powershot 2. Shackleshot 3. Windrun)
Starting Items: Null Talisman, Tango
Early Game: Bottle, Boots of Speed
Core Items: Phase Boots, Aghanim's Scepter, Daedalus
Situational Items: Force Staff, Blink Dagger, Rod of Atos, Monkey King Bar
Extension Items: Skull Basher, Black King Bar, Scythe of Vyse, Eye of Skadi
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Northern Ireland22213 Posts
why is bkb a core on centaur? esp. in ur earlier post:
Centaur: I made core Tranq -> Blink -> Wand -> Aghs and removed BKB; Pipe is Extension.
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On April 30 2015 19:19 ahswtini wrote:why is bkb a core on centaur? esp. in ur earlier post: Show nested quote +Centaur: I made core Tranq -> Blink -> Wand -> Aghs and removed BKB; Pipe is Extension.
I don't think that early of Aghs is justified; so I'm hoping to either put BKB or Pipe as Core and Aghs as Extension. I haven't decided yet, but I would like either Hood, Pipe or BKB as Core and Aghs as extension.
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all updates above are now included in the main patch notes two pages back
To do:
1. Update General Descriptions of heroes
2. Update Personal Note written in the stats section of the guides
3. Add new contributors to list (done)
4. Make new guide (done)
5. Remake both Alchemist guides
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I really think for wr mid you should go level 1 e which lets u trade really well instead of meh nuke
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I've updated Alchemist Mid and Lane, however they are really distinguished enough.
On May 01 2015 00:24 Thetwinmasters wrote:
I really think for wr mid you should go level 1 e which lets u trade really well instead of meh nuke
done
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United States47024 Posts
Whenever I look at Octarine Orb; I think of its two main functions: Spell Vamp + Cooldown reduction.
Is he too squishy for the spell vamp to be worthwhile and 2. does he really take advantage of the CD? (for 1 spell) over Refresher's Orb?
You can't give up Refresher for Octarine on OD really, Refresher double Ulti is a big deal for what that hero does lategame.
Your 6-item is usually going to end up being Treads/Travels BKB Sheep Refresh <armor item> (e.g. Shiva) <mobility item> (Blink or Force). You can lose one of the last 2 to make room for Octarine (or BKB against certain teamcomps) but that's at the very best situational, because it's EXTREMELY questionable if Octarine's spell lifesteal gives you better survivability than a mobility item or armor item do.
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Alchemist Middle and Lane have been revamped; still a bit iffy about them.
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I hate how behind the cloud server when it comes to updates.
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Guides all published to the main client.
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Stats coming today.
Also initial thoughts:
move Silver Edge to situational items for nearly all heroes
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United States47024 Posts
A bit late, but WR should usually not have Agha first item. It's a % increase to your damage, and not efficient until you at least have some stats from level-ups, if not a damage item. There are a lot of potential items you can buy before Agha, but straight Agha is usually not that effective.
Blink/Force/Lothar should not be just "situational". The guide needs to stress in some way that the hero needs at least one (and often more than one) of those items to really properly fulfill her function in a normal game. On average you should actually be buying 1 or more of those items per game--the amount of times you need to buy 2 of them far outnumbers the times you can get away with none of them. The timing will vary but it's virtually invariable that you will get one of the 3 major mobility/positioning items within your first 2-3 items (and usually 1-2).
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Wouldn't Guardian Greaves be an ideal extension for Undying, especially since you build him as a Mek carrier and Arcanes? Also, in the Undying thread there was a good deal of talk about Atos being a great pickup - did you replace that with Lotus?
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Northern Ireland22213 Posts
on wr i would go something like phase bottle maelstrom at least before considering aghs, maybe even blink/force before the aghs
and agreed with guardian greaves extension for undying
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Wow, ok. They fucking added a mana cost to Glimmer Cape.
fuck you
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EPT
