EPTIn-Game Standard Hero Builds Project - Page 169
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On April 28 2015 17:28 tnud wrote: Good luck with all the work. Much appreciated! Thanks, I'm going to start applying some initial changes to skills right now. | ||
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Sn0_Man
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The vast majority of euls heroes are still euls heroes I don't think aghs priority really changed on most heroes (centaur notable exception potentially). The rest of the new ones range from bad to joke except techies who already got aghs fast anyway pretty much ur whole "skill changes" section is wrong etc | ||
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On April 29 2015 00:39 Sn0_Man wrote: Silver edge is a shadowblade extension not a sange extension The vast majority of euls heroes are still euls heroes I don't think aghs priority really changed on most heroes (centaur notable exception potentially). The rest of the new ones range from bad to joke except techies who already got aghs fast anyway pretty much ur whole "skill changes" section is wrong etc Skill changes are hero skill builds that need to be changed. You're referring to item application which is a preliminary look-through. On April 29 2015 00:26 Doomblaze wrote: If you want any help with it hit me up. My semester just ended so my next two weeks will be eat sleep dota repeat. I have nothing but free time. Right now what it is is just breaking down the patch and applying to the key builds before the items are even out; making it a bit of annoyance where I have to put placeholder items with the right descriptions and double-check all descriptions | ||
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Alchemist - MAYBE greed at 1 for bounty, otherwise doesnt change Crystal Maiden (ult at 6) I think u should have been getting ult at 6 already most games Juggernaut (revert to old build?) probably not Lifestealer (2 less levels in Open Wounds?) no u need levels in open wounds for range Pugna (max decrepify second?) no still 4-1-4-2 at 11 Riki (prioritize smoke lvl 1) NO! Invis level 1 pls Sand King Sand King (early level - Caustic Finale?) this one is actually right. probably. Dunno the exact order though. | ||
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On April 29 2015 01:02 Sn0_Man wrote: what i'm saying is Alchemist - MAYBE greed at 1 for bounty, otherwise doesnt change Crystal Maiden (ult at 6) I think u should have been getting ult at 6 already most games Juggernaut (revert to old build?) probably not Lifestealer (2 less levels in Open Wounds?) no u need levels in open wounds for range Pugna (max decrepify second?) no still 4-1-4-2 at 11 Riki (prioritize smoke lvl 1) NO! Invis level 1 pls Sand King Sand King (early level - Caustic Finale?) this one is actually right. probably. Dunno the exact order though. Alchemist is level 1 greed for middle, Lane is going to be kept similar (1 stun 2 greed 3 acid spray) Crystal Maiden level 6 ult was a debate for awhile; I will move it to 6 if it isn't already Juggernaut something to look into, patch is trying to push for it, not just because of MoM minor nerf Lifestealer looking to get an early blink perhaps, so open wounds can take a backseat perhpaps Pugna guess its just a nerf then Riki that's a misinterpretation: Smoke was delayed til 4 I believe, Im thinking earlier (but before two points in backstab) Sand King figured so I don't think it's as wrong and clear-cut as you make it. | ||
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On April 29 2015 01:10 Sn0_Man wrote: yeah but u dont want blink on ls at all Perhaps not, I doubt I'll put it in. I'm working on Alchemist who is surprisingly taking a longer time than thought. | ||
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TheYango
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The only good the Pugna change does is that now you have to take Decrep ranks 2-4 at 12-14, whereas before the 2nd-4th ranks were competitive with +Stats depending on the game (but your guide didn't have that anyway). For the most part it's a nerf for whatever reason. Riki skill order was already situational, Smoke at 2, 3, or 4 from a guide perspective doesn't matter because you kind of should be picking based on the game anyway. | ||
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On April 29 2015 02:54 TheYango wrote: Blink on LS is like the pub choice when you picked him anyway in a teamcomp with 0 people to ferry him in with Infest (aka a teamcomp that you shouldn't pick Lifestealer in). The only good the Pugna change does is that now you have to take Decrep ranks 2-4 at 12-14, whereas before the 2nd-4th ranks were competitive with +Stats depending on the game (but your guide didn't have that anyway). For the most part it's a nerf for whatever reason. Riki skill order was already situational, Smoke at 2, 3, or 4 from a guide perspective doesn't matter because you kind of should be picking based on the game anyway. Thanks for the advice I'm also taking this opportunity to: 1. Have supports afford both courier and wards 2. Swap out Magic Wand for Magic Sticks where applicable | ||
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On April 29 2015 03:00 Torte de Lini wrote: 1. Have supports afford both courier and wards 2. Swap out Magic Wand for Magic Sticks where applicable Ya idk if 2 is necessary with the Wand buff, lol. | ||
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On April 29 2015 03:04 TheYango wrote: Ya idk if 2 is necessary with the Wand buff, lol. Yeah, I missed that change before, I see it now. Meaning starting items could be rearranged a bit however.  Was looking at the changes to Juggernaut and I think the meta will have it go back: Battlefury through Quelling Blade. Small nerf to Mask of Madness movement speed, etc. | ||
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Initially, I was a bit scared of the new items and unraveling this patch but when I really sit down and break it apart; a lot of the changes are making sense. Enchanted Mango feels like a niche pick for certain junglers or non-bottle mids. Lotus Orb sounds like Blade Mail for Utility/non-carries/physicals Moon Shard sounds like Battlefury for Range Carries Solar Crest and Silver Edge are obvious niche upgrades Octarine Core is League of Legends creeping in | ||
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Moon Shard sounds like Battlefury for Range Carries ? thats maelstrom | ||
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