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NeonFlare
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Finland1307 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-30 19:17:50
January 30 2014 19:17 GMT
#101
Usually you'd expect people to pick their skills to be either fun combo or generally powerful mix, but I don't know how to handle it when I happen to get teammates like omniknight who first picks OD ult and then picks Dragon's Blood and Sprint, what is he trying to achieve? What's the fun in playing with as bad mix as possible? I could understand that someone picked his pre-planned skill but when you still have a decent amount of universally good options or even few that could be fun to combo with, you choose some of the least fun skills that actually do work against your initial plan.

I can understand some people like to play things like old naix style mass passives into lategame, but this is something absurd, it isn't fun to them, it isn't fun to us, it might be a bit fun for the opponents who prey on him. Sometimes you get shafted with an useless skill, but that's usually your last one, not every single one of them.

It's not a problem if people are having a bad game, but intentionally making it so to themselves - I just can't understand it.
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
January 30 2014 19:17 GMT
#102
Just played a nice game with Perma Cloak, Lucent Beam, Starfall and Static Field and also got a Dagon. I confused the heck out of the enemy team, most of them didn't even get it xD
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
January 30 2014 19:18 GMT
#103
On January 31 2014 04:11 Kuroeeah wrote:
Abilities you can toggle off and on counts towards Fiery Soul, so you can toggle split shot and move almost faster than everyone.


Pretty sure spectre isn't in the mode.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-30 19:22:01
January 30 2014 19:21 GMT
#104
On January 31 2014 04:18 LeLoup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2014 04:11 Kuroeeah wrote:
Abilities you can toggle off and on counts towards Fiery Soul, so you can toggle split shot and move almost faster than everyone.


Pretty sure spectre isn't in the mode.

I think you quoted the wrong post here XD

And yeah, Perma invis is much much better than I originally thought since the change that allows you to cast without revealing.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Aixler
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands946 Posts
January 30 2014 19:23 GMT
#105
On January 31 2014 04:11 Kuroeeah wrote:
Abilities you can toggle off and on counts towards Fiery Soul, so you can toggle split shot and move almost faster than everyone.


Had rot and static field, but that didn't work sadly =/

Also just finished a fun game where i was kunkka, and had burrowstrike/torrent/ensnare/call down. Made a quick bloodstone and ganks/teamfights were easily won.
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-30 19:27:16
January 30 2014 19:26 GMT
#106
does anyone know if this mode factors in your mmr?

I had a super frustrating game where a tusk took away skeleton walk, moment of courage, chaos strike, and duel
he initiated 5 duels in 40 minutes..
Losing duels is one thing, not dueling when you have the perfect initiation & means to win one is seriously something else.
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 30 2014 19:27 GMT
#107
Its unranked relax lol
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
January 30 2014 19:31 GMT
#108
i was lc that game bruh

i couldve rekt

instead i ended up with visage birds, chaotic rift, frostbite, and cm aura
wtf man
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Animzor
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2154 Posts
January 30 2014 19:35 GMT
#109
On January 31 2014 04:17 NeonFlare wrote:
Usually you'd expect people to pick their skills to be either fun combo or generally powerful mix, but I don't know how to handle it when I happen to get teammates like omniknight who first picks OD ult and then picks Dragon's Blood and Sprint, what is he trying to achieve? What's the fun in playing with as bad mix as possible? I could understand that someone picked his pre-planned skill but when you still have a decent amount of universally good options or even few that could be fun to combo with, you choose some of the least fun skills that actually do work against your initial plan.

I can understand some people like to play things like old naix style mass passives into lategame, but this is something absurd, it isn't fun to them, it isn't fun to us, it might be a bit fun for the opponents who prey on him. Sometimes you get shafted with an useless skill, but that's usually your last one, not every single one of them.

It's not a problem if people are having a bad game, but intentionally making it so to themselves - I just can't understand it.


A lot of people seem to pick for a good laning phase, which is kind of pointless since normal rules don't apply.
Attorney
Profile Joined January 2014
United States20 Posts
January 30 2014 20:06 GMT
#110
Yesterday I was going for natural order sukuchi gyro. But those skills were drafted before it was my turn. I randomed geminate and astral spirit and it was actually pretty effective. Astral spirit for more movement speed and damage and I attacked twice and I was doing insane damage with nothing but phase and a yasha.
I wasn't even soposed to be here today.
Proof.
Profile Joined August 2011
535 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-30 20:17:05
January 30 2014 20:14 GMT
#111
Was a slardar with slithereen crush and windwalk. Just getting those 2 skills felt dirty and then no one else picked up reverse polarity so.....yea..I also had sprint so my lvl 1 windwalk became a lvl 3/4 windwalk for no added manacost.
I was basically playing mag except you land awesome surprise buttsecks rp's for the first couple times.
He who has a why to live can bear almost any how
Serpest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States603 Posts
January 30 2014 20:31 GMT
#112
I went Lion with grow, toss, craggy exterior and feral impulse. Ended up with 400 base damage. Coupled with a dagon 5


IT WAS GLORIOUS. The funniest thing I've ever seen. First time I've ever built heart or AC on a lion.
A person that attempts to diagnose themselves has a fool for a doctor and a bigger fool for a patient.
Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-30 21:35:48
January 30 2014 21:31 GMT
#113
Just played Tiny with Starfall, Scream of Pain, Backstab , (Randomed, yes probably the worst spell he could get but i just lvled stats instead) and Tide Ulti. Built a Dagon 5 and Eblade later on, went really good :D

Also Timbersaw With Astral Spirit, Shukuchi, Timberchain and Blackhole was pretty legit.
Furthermore, I think the Collosi should be removed! (Zorgaz -Terran/AbrA-Random/Zorg-Dota2) Guineapigs <3
ZerG~LegenD
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Sweden1179 Posts
January 30 2014 21:41 GMT
#114
We just got fucked over badly by Rearm + Tombstone. That shit is nasty.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
January 30 2014 21:42 GMT
#115
Just tried my first one, was surprisingly fun (won it though, that could be one of the reasons )

Got Ursa and had no idea what to pick so I just derped it. Frost Arrow (expected it to be bugged so I would get a ranged slow, it was unfortunately not. Worked out fine though, they have no way to get away from you once you're close enough). Followed it up with Blur because I thought I would play this tanky annoying dude who jumps in and sticks to people like crazy. For this, I followed it up with Clocks Chain Ulti. Pretty nice to ulti in, freeze them down and dodge everything. Nothing outstanding left after that, so I got Banes life drain (way too mana heavy for Ursa, but got me some kills).

As for items, I went basilius (which was far from enough to sustain the life leech), phase boots, Hood of Defiance, Sange and Yasha, Linkens, Daedalus.

As for strong combos I saw in the game, an Axe got berserkers call and rocket barrage, that was insanely effective in the early midgame.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
January 30 2014 22:07 GMT
#116
Oh my enchant totem + tidebringer + a couple of daedalus and lothars. That felt good.
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
January 30 2014 22:08 GMT
#117
Had np teleport, bloodseeker's passive to see low health heros, and omnislash on lifestealer. Another one which worked well was Am with his blink, dragon knight passive armor ability, alch farming ability, and clinkz ult. Had like 1400 gpm or something, and was six slotted by 28 minutes or something.
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
Chro
Profile Joined May 2010
United States240 Posts
January 30 2014 22:30 GMT
#118
Timber chain and natures guise, you don't lose the invis when chaining across the lane. Do whatever you want for the other skills, shit is funny as hell.
xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
January 30 2014 22:48 GMT
#119
On January 31 2014 06:42 Tobberoth wrote:
Just tried my first one, was surprisingly fun (won it though, that could be one of the reasons )

Got Ursa and had no idea what to pick so I just derped it. Frost Arrow (expected it to be bugged so I would get a ranged slow, it was unfortunately not. Worked out fine though, they have no way to get away from you once you're close enough). Followed it up with Blur because I thought I would play this tanky annoying dude who jumps in and sticks to people like crazy. For this, I followed it up with Clocks Chain Ulti. Pretty nice to ulti in, freeze them down and dodge everything. Nothing outstanding left after that, so I got Banes life drain (way too mana heavy for Ursa, but got me some kills).

As for items, I went basilius (which was far from enough to sustain the life leech), phase boots, Hood of Defiance, Sange and Yasha, Linkens, Daedalus.

As for strong combos I saw in the game, an Axe got berserkers call and rocket barrage, that was insanely effective in the early midgame.


I'm pretty sure Frost Arrow DOES work as a ranged slow on melee heroes, but only if you manually cast it. I'm guessing you were using auto-cast.
Fawkes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1935 Posts
January 30 2014 22:50 GMT
#120
Ranged Orb effects can be manually cast on melee heroes for a ranged attack.

I played a game with Searing Arrows on AntiMage, ended up getting an Orchid and a Shadow Blade and played like a Clinkz.
Taeyeon ~ Jennie ~ Seulgi ~ Irene @Fawkes711
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