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Souone
Profile Joined July 2012
Brazil470 Posts
January 30 2014 06:02 GMT
#41
Apparently you can get viper's orb and use it from 500 range (or whatever range viper has) even if you are melee. Goddamn Ursa chewed my face before I even realized what was going on.

And fiery soul is legit.
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
January 30 2014 06:07 GMT
#42
just as an interesting note

impetus and essence aura don't stack
apparently any spell without a cd may or may not proc the aura
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Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
January 30 2014 06:09 GMT
#43
Stifling dagger, take aim, essence aura, impetus.

Would be fun.
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DDie
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil2369 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-30 06:14:25
January 30 2014 06:10 GMT
#44
Frost arrow + tidebringer on a agi melee hero = instant orb ranged attack + cleave/crit
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Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
January 30 2014 06:13 GMT
#45
On January 30 2014 15:07 andyrau wrote:
just as an interesting note

impetus and essence aura don't stack
apparently any spell without a cd may or may not proc the aura

Ball Lightning procs Essence Aura... :D
Nerevar
Profile Joined January 2013
547 Posts
January 30 2014 06:51 GMT
#46
On January 30 2014 13:40 me_viet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2014 13:34 fdsdfg wrote:
Could you theoretically pick Rearm and a global ability, like Sunstrike or Gyro Ult w/ aghs? Or can you only have one ult?

Seems like you could get away with just sitting in fountain casting constantly


pretty sure you can only get one ulti.

but rearm + rocket flare would be pretty gg lol

I need to try rearm+rocket flare. Sounds like you can play the entire game from the fountain.
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
January 30 2014 07:41 GMT
#47
Totem Smash and Geminite attack stacks the damage, and insta kills most things.
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fdsdfg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1251 Posts
January 30 2014 08:22 GMT
#48
On January 30 2014 15:51 Nerevar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2014 13:40 me_viet wrote:
On January 30 2014 13:34 fdsdfg wrote:
Could you theoretically pick Rearm and a global ability, like Sunstrike or Gyro Ult w/ aghs? Or can you only have one ult?

Seems like you could get away with just sitting in fountain casting constantly


pretty sure you can only get one ulti.

but rearm + rocket flare would be pretty gg lol

I need to try rearm+rocket flare. Sounds like you can play the entire game from the fountain.


I wonder, would you still get XP from last hits + hero kills/assists?

It would be so boring.. but so effective. No way for the enemy team to do anything about you.
aka Siyko
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-30 08:51:13
January 30 2014 08:49 GMT
#49
I'm finding most games end up with everyone first-picking the carry passives, and then running out, and then picking random support skills from the rest of the pool. Lot of very useless heroes ensue.

I'm having success with just taking two stuns - ideally one primary and a follow-up like Split Earth - and then just roaming from level 2. Like 4 seconds of stun from 1 hero at 1:30 is hilariously effective.

I do wish you could chat during the picks.
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-30 09:11:58
January 30 2014 09:11 GMT
#50
On January 30 2014 15:09 LeLoup wrote:
Stifling dagger, take aim, essence aura, impetus.

Would be fun.

wut
I just stated impetus does not proc essence aura

I am pretty sure impetus does not stack with take aim. the range for impetus is always 500 (or whatever the default value is) regardless of your hero's base range or any range modifying abilities.
at least, when I played warlock with imp my range was the default value instead of warlock's actual 600.

also, I'm pretty sure imp is a projectile modifier, so melee heroes cannot use the spell.
this happened with an es that tried to use glaives, it just bugged the game out.
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me_viet
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia1350 Posts
January 30 2014 09:13 GMT
#51
On January 30 2014 17:49 Belisarius wrote:
I'm finding most games end up with everyone first-picking the carry passives, and then running out, and then picking random support skills from the rest of the pool. Lot of very useless heroes ensue.

I'm having success with just taking two stuns - ideally one primary and a follow-up like Split Earth - and then just roaming from level 2. Like 4 seconds of stun from 1 hero at 1:30 is hilariously effective.

I do wish you could chat during the picks.


yea back in OMG days, this ended up being the most efficient way to draft, it usually ends up with the ones that gets 2 picks that ends up being the carry
LonelyCat
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom130 Posts
January 30 2014 09:41 GMT
#52
The bugged spells we found so far were:
Grow - When tiny had grow it did nothing at all, not even move speed or base damage.
DK ult - Only tested it on DK himself, but it turned him into a melee dragon. Dragon tail did have the correct range though.

In terms of strong combos, Enchant totem + scaling carry passive was pretty disgusting (geminate meant 1-shotting people at level 5 since both attacks had +400% damage, coup de gras meant with just a shadowblade 3.5k crits). Fiery soul is mental, especially if you can get bristle's spines + ult too. Apparently zeus' passive and mana shield toggle is a thing (I think mana shield toggle triggers a lot of things it probably shouldn't, maybe even bristle's ult). I had the ultimate jungler (and a pretty silly carry) with Fury swipes + Moment of courage meaning i had a 5-6 minute vlads and level 6.
RockIronrod
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia1369 Posts
January 30 2014 09:49 GMT
#53
this mode is killing me
every game is a stomp one way or the other and every game i've had at least 3 people on my team go 1-3/20
Irratonalys
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany902 Posts
January 30 2014 10:24 GMT
#54
turns out that drafting split shot + strafe + chronosphere is pretty crazy
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Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
January 30 2014 10:28 GMT
#55
On January 30 2014 19:24 Irratonalys wrote:
turns out that drafting split shot + strafe + chronosphere is pretty crazy
That sounds deadly.
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
January 30 2014 10:33 GMT
#56
yesterday i played rhasta with veno passive, both bloodseeker passives and pa ult
much fun was had, atleast i could play while eating
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Animzor
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2154 Posts
January 30 2014 11:00 GMT
#57
Nethertoxin is the best skill in the game.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
January 30 2014 11:02 GMT
#58
On January 30 2014 18:49 RockIronrod wrote:
this mode is killing me
every game is a stomp one way or the other and every game i've had at least 3 people on my team go 1-3/20


Yeah, for a fun game mode, it really seems to bring out the worst in players.

In regular Dota they're limited by a reasonable hero design, but here they can realize their wet dream of playing the ultimate glass cannon "carries" and burst nukers that die in 1 stun.
Animzor
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2154 Posts
January 30 2014 11:08 GMT
#59
What would be required for people to stop raging and play this as a FUN game mode? Silly music that signifies the fact that it's not supposed to be taken seriously? Power-ups like in Mario Kart so you can throw banana peels at people?
ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
January 30 2014 11:17 GMT
#60
I've had nothing but fun with this mode so far.
Only raged once myself when I was transferring items around with courier and dropped dust on the ground (so i could plant sentrys then go back and pick it up) and a bristle picked it up, then didn't use it when we probably could have pushed to win if we'd gotten the kill.
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