EPTShould've sold mine 2-4 weeks ago, damn procrastination. Oh well, maybe I should just not read into it, RTX 2080 does an excellent job with pretty much every game at 1440p. Technology makes so much sense to buy at launch, what's the point of getting a 10% discount 6 months after release, if you already lost 25% of the time it's relevant.
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FiWiFaKi
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Should've sold mine 2-4 weeks ago, damn procrastination. Oh well, maybe I should just not read into it, RTX 2080 does an excellent job with pretty much every game at 1440p. Technology makes so much sense to buy at launch, what's the point of getting a 10% discount 6 months after release, if you already lost 25% of the time it's relevant. | ||
zatic
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On September 02 2020 04:51 Lmui wrote: The 3080 appears to be better value than the 3070 which is weird. Some performance leaks as well: Looks like the 3080 is approximately 80% better than a 2080 in games, it's a ludicrous card by any definition. It's a pretty gigantic performance upgrade over the current generation so I'd expect it to be well into 2021 before sufficient stock is available and you can buy them at any form of discount under msrp. It's nuts. Guess I can count myself lucky I got 18 months of usage out of my RTX 2080 before it became obsolete haha. | ||
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zatic
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Cyro
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Lots of interesting stuff like high resolution/fps hardware AV1 decode support too! My main gaming monitor is still 1080P 144 hz, most modern cards can handle gaming no problem. Yeet the graphics, resolution or FPS lol. I'm personally looking at some of those 360hz gsync-module IPS monitors (178 viewing angles @ professional-grade color reproduction, wowza) -- [Jason Paul] Hi Carmen813, for RTX 30 Series, we decided to focus improvements on the video decode side of things and added AV1 decode support. On the encode side, RTX 30 Series has the same great encoder as our RTX 20 Series GPU. We have also recently updated our NVIDIA Encoder SDK. In the coming months, livestream applications will be updating to this new version of the SDK, unlocking new performance options for streamers. From reddit AMA. No better encoding i guess but new options sound good! | ||
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KOFgokuon
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Maybe I could use a different port from the monitor and plug it into my video card twice and then just change the input for gaming >< | ||
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Lmui
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On September 03 2020 12:27 KOFgokuon wrote: Problem is I use a KVM switch to go between my desktop and my work laptop with my keyboard mouse and 2 monitors. I haven’t found one on my procurement portal that will support 1440p or 4k at anything At anything above 60 FPS so there’s no real point to changing my hardware until WFH ends =\ Maybe I could use a different port from the monitor and plug it into my video card twice and then just change the input for gaming >< I personally only use a usb switch for my wfh setup (keyboard/mouse, no video). I then use two cables each of my monitors, one from my work laptop's docking station, one from my desktop. I rely on the monitor to auto-detect inputs to switch between my home computer and work computer. It works well until I accidentally wake both at the same time. I'm thinking a bit about the 30 series GPUs, and feeling sorry for those people that bought 2080s and 2080TIs in the last month for FS 2020. That's a gigantic chunk of change that's worth half what it was a few days ago. On the other hand, I bought a 1080 on release in 2016. I've gotten four full years of use out of it and it's still good. I think I'm going to upgrade CPU/mobo/RAM with ryzen 4000, and then grab a new GPU when a flat version of samsung's G7 comes out. 240hz WQHD I think is optimal for my home usage. | ||
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Karis Vas Ryaar
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FiWiFaKi
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On September 04 2020 05:48 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote: I'm probably going to be upgrading my computer sometime from here to like January. Is there a specific time it would make the most sense to do that? should I figure out what I want and then wait to see when its on sale, I'm not sure about that because I'm not sure want to have something sitting for two months until I figure out if it works or not. I really don't have any sort of price point but under/max of 2 grand and whatever maximizes performance for cost. My comp is like 7 years old so I'm assuming everything needs to be replaced. I'll post my actual specs and stuff later i just want any tips for mostly when to buy. Technology depreciates fast, buy everything you need when you're ready to buy it all. I think with the release of Ampere GPU's, it's a good time to buy. Ryzen 4000 won't be a massive jump, prices of RAM and SSD's are low, good time to make a purchase. I think buying a 2nd hand RTX card is a smart option too, too much panic selling going on. | ||
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Lmui
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Nvidia 3000 series might be in some reasonable level of stock. AMD is also slated to release 4000 series CPUs "this year" and may also release competitive GPUs to Nvidia, or at least, drop the prices of their 5700/5700XT to compete with the 3000 series. We've got a good few months to go before anything concrete comes out though, so rumours abound. | ||
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FiWiFaKi
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Yesterday during the panic the 2080ti's dropped as low as $500-$550. It's somewhat normalized now. Also I forgot that 3rd Gen Ryzen doesn't have integrated graphics lol | ||
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Cyro
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Ryzen 4000 won't be a massive jump Zen3 Vermeer will be huge for gaming systems. It's not gonna revolutionize cinebench but we should see huge performance jumps in some games. It's also coming very soon, as in multiple major board vendors already openly support it with beta bios versions. If review samples aren't out under NDA they will be in a matter of weeks. | ||
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Cyro
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On September 04 2020 10:30 TT1 wrote: Anyone have any info on 3D Xpoint and when it might hit the consumer market? Apparently it's going to be a game changer, like what PhysX was for NVIDIA? The first gen consumer drives (up to 480GB capacity) launched in 2017. https://www.anandtech.com/show/12136/the-intel-optane-ssd-900p-480gb-review - they've since gone up to 1.5TB+. They're generally the highest performing storage drives to my knowledge but it rarely makes a really substantial difference for regular consumer use (OS responsiveness, playing games). It might cut a loading screen from 20 seconds on a NAND ssd to 18 seconds on a 3DX. Notable, but not something that people were generally going to pay £1000 for a terabyte of when regular SSD's cost £200 and performed almost as well via practical performance measurements like boot time and loading screen time. | ||
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On September 04 2020 11:51 Cyro wrote: The first gen consumer drives (up to 480GB capacity) launched in 2017. https://www.anandtech.com/show/12136/the-intel-optane-ssd-900p-480gb-review - they've since gone up to 1.5TB+. They're generally the highest performing storage drives to my knowledge but it rarely makes a really substantial difference for regular consumer use (OS responsiveness, playing games). It might cut a loading screen from 20 seconds on a NAND ssd to 18 seconds on a 3DX. Notable, but not something that people were generally going to pay £1000 for a terabyte of when regular SSD's cost £200 and performed almost as well via practical performance measurements like boot time and loading screen time. They might be able to show a difference when the DirectStorage API gets implemented into windows. | ||
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TT1
Canada10052 Posts
On September 04 2020 11:51 Cyro wrote: The first gen consumer drives (up to 480GB capacity) launched in 2017. https://www.anandtech.com/show/12136/the-intel-optane-ssd-900p-480gb-review - they've since gone up to 1.5TB+. They're generally the highest performing storage drives to my knowledge but it rarely makes a really substantial difference for regular consumer use (OS responsiveness, playing games). It might cut a loading screen from 20 seconds on a NAND ssd to 18 seconds on a 3DX. Notable, but not something that people were generally going to pay £1000 for a terabyte of when regular SSD's cost £200 and performed almost as well via practical performance measurements like boot time and loading screen time. Didn't Micron buy Intel's 3D Xpoint position? Afaik they re-branded it to QuantX. | ||
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Cyro
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On September 05 2020 07:03 TT1 wrote: Didn't Micron buy Intel's 3D Xpoint position? Afaik they re-branded it to QuantX. Nope! Micron and Intel co-developed 3D XPoint memory as a high-performance alternative to flash, but so far only Intel has brought products to market, under their Optane brand. Despite owning the fab where 3D XPoint memory is produced, the closest Micron has come to commercializing that tech for themselves was their announcement in 2016 that upcoming Micron products using 3D XPoint memory would be branded as Micron QuantX, their counterpart to Intel's Optane brand. Years later, we finally have a concrete product announcement, and they seem to have abandoned the QuantX name. The new Micron X100 is a high-end enterprise NVMe SSD to compete against Intel's upcoming second-generation Optane SSDs and any specialized low-latency SLC NAND their competitors can come up with (eg. Samsung Z-NAND, Toshiba XL-FLASH). Micron has not yet released full specs for the X100, but the top line performance numbers are 2.5M IOPS for 4kB random reads and around 10GB/s for sequential transfers—both likely to be new records for a single SSD if they can ship it soon enough. A preview video posted by Micron includes a graph that labels the 2.5M IOPS figure as being tested at QD1, which sounds too good to be true: almost 5x the performance of Intel's current Optane SSDs. Micron says the X100 should be good for at least 9GB/s for reads, writes, or mixed workloads, reflecting how much closer 3D XPoint is to symmetrical read/write performance than any flash memory. (And also suggesting that the controller may be the bottleneck for sequential transfers more than the 3D XPoint memory itself.) For QoS, Micron is listing both read and write latencies of 8µs or less, slightly better than the 10µs that Intel's current Optane SSDs promise. | ||
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Lmui
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On September 04 2020 09:34 Cyro wrote: Zen3 Vermeer will be huge for gaming systems. It's not gonna revolutionize cinebench but we should see huge performance jumps in some games. It's also coming very soon, as in multiple major board vendors already openly support it with beta bios versions. If review samples aren't out under NDA they will be in a matter of weeks. Looks like zen 3 is coming Oct. 8, RDNA2 Oct. 28 ![[image loading]](https://i.redd.it/gu5jl8t775m51.jpg) Looking like we'll have a full picture of "next-gen" parts by mid-November. With Zen3, Nvidia 30xx and AMD 6000 series GPUs, we'll have new parts from everyone but Intel, so it's a great time to buy, or at least plan a build. | ||
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