EPTComputer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread - Page 706
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R1CH
Netherlands10341 Posts
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ZerOCoolSC2
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Panzamelano
Colombia248 Posts
ive had this old power supply for a couple of years and it was supposed to be a cheap 500w supply but looking online i cant find much info on it and it seems sketchy as the only information i find seems to say it is lower than 500w. Here is the sticker inside: https://imgur.com/a/jkXz4Y3 Anyone know what the wattage of it really is? id like to know to see if i have to include a power supply on the upgrade list or if its good enough. | ||
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ZerOCoolSC2
9012 Posts
Wait for Lmui or Cryo to confirm? | ||
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Simberto
Germany11712 Posts
Honestly, just get a new PSU. Even ignoring any problems that that shitty thing will cause under load, you will almost certainly save the price in reduced power consumption due to higher efficiency pretty quickly. | ||
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Panzamelano
Colombia248 Posts
thanks fellows, ill come around once i got more info on what im looking for and get some suggestions for what to look for during the sales | ||
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TT1
Canada10012 Posts
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ZerOCoolSC2
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TT1
Canada10012 Posts
Is there any consensus on a good threadripper build? I have a GTX 1660 TI which i plan on reusing, i think i'll probably run everything on stock speed.. minus maybe the CPU (if it's worth OC'ing)? | ||
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Lmui
Canada6219 Posts
On November 26 2019 03:54 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote: It says the Peak Power is 500W with a Total Power of 400W. It looks like it operates at 372 constant and can ramp up to 500 if needed. I'm going to say it's fine unless you're adding components that will draw more power but it should power everything sufficiently. Components today are more efficient, so I doubt you'll need more power. If you really want to be safe, maybe upgrade to 550 but that's just my opinion. Wait for Lmui or Cryo to confirm? Probably worth it to get almost any 80+ bronze or higher PSU. That one's not rated as far as I can find, but there's this spec sheet: http://top-logix.ca/itemFullDetail.php?item='Power Supply:TT-500NL2NK-A' It's not on this list: https://www.plugloadsolutions.com/80PlusPowerSuppliesDetail.aspx?id=71&type=2 so presumably, it's not actually a 80+ bronze PSU despite the rating on the side. Getting a 80+ bronze or higher PSU (up until gold) will save you money over the lifetime of the PSU if you're under 80+ spec to begin with. As far as building a PC goes, for mainstream machines, it's about as good as it gets since all the manufacturers have fully filled out the lineups with current gen components, for CPU, GPU and there's nothing close on the horizon. The only thing which *may* come out early next year is AMD b550 motherboards, but that's unlikely to be a large upgrade over a b450 now, and generally a motherboard isn't worth waiting for. | ||
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MeSaber
Sweden1235 Posts
Whats your current cpu? Threadripper would be for a creator/renderer who needs to save a lot of time doing so. For a normal consumer i have a hard time seeing you will ever use all cores. Even 3900x/3950x is overkill. Why wouldnt you want to overclock GPU? Is it currently overheating with stock? Bad airflow or fan positions? | ||
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MeSaber
Sweden1235 Posts
On November 26 2019 07:39 TT1 wrote: Is now a good time to build a PC? I was wondering if anything major is being released in the near future, i'd like to upgrade my current comp but i'm not in a hurry. Well its been said that the next gen4 ryzen will be 50% faster than current. If not you could buy now and sell your components for a discount when you upgrade a second time. Its assumed to be a huge leap just like this gen was. However todays components (Ryzen gen3) is wow already. | ||
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TT1
Canada10012 Posts
On November 26 2019 16:02 MeSaber wrote: Whats your use case TT1? Do you render anything? If not 1660 Ti works perfect with Ryzen 3600. ($200 cpu vs $250 gpu). Whats your current cpu? Threadripper would be for a creator/renderer who needs to save a lot of time doing so. For a normal consumer i have a hard time seeing you will ever use all cores. Even 3900x/3950x is overkill. Why wouldnt you want to overclock GPU? Is it currently overheating with stock? Bad airflow or fan positions? My current setup is super old, i have a 2600k. Basically the only thing worth re-using in a new build is my GPU. I can OC the GPU but do i really need to? I plan on getting a good Noctua air fan, just need a few ideas on other quality parts (PSU, SSD, ram etc.). any ETA on gen4 ryzen? i'm not the type to constantly update builds | ||
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Lmui
Canada6219 Posts
On November 27 2019 04:06 TT1 wrote: My current setup is super old, i have a 2600k. Basically the only thing worth re-using in a new build is my GPU. I can OC the GPU but do i really need to? I plan on getting a good Noctua air fan, just need a few ideas on other quality parts (PSU, SSD, ram etc.). any ETA on gen4 ryzen? i'm not the type to constantly update builds gen4 Ryzen isn't expected to get much more than +10% on the current gen, but still pretty good if you want to wait. It'll come out probably around the same time as Ryzen did this year, Q2/Q3 2020. You need to decide to start whether or not you NEED Threadripper. It starts at $1400USD, a price at which you can build a pretty loaded Ryzen 3700X, or even 3900X based computer, especially if you're reusing your GPU, not to mention that the motherboard is much more expensive, and you start at 4 channel (4 sticks) of memory. Do you need way more PCI-E lanes (storage/networking/multi-GPU)? If you only need one GPU, and one big, fast SSD, the consumer platform is easily enough. If you're only playing games, grab a 3700X, decent X570 motherboard, 2x16gb of RAM and be happy since games are going to be optimized for a downsized version of your PC for the next 7-10 years when the next playstation/xbox come out. | ||
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ZerOCoolSC2
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TT1
Canada10012 Posts
On November 27 2019 06:41 Lmui wrote: gen4 Ryzen isn't expected to get much more than +10% on the current gen, but still pretty good if you want to wait. It'll come out probably around the same time as Ryzen did this year, Q2/Q3 2020. You need to decide to start whether or not you NEED Threadripper. It starts at $1400USD, a price at which you can build a pretty loaded Ryzen 3700X, or even 3900X based computer, especially if you're reusing your GPU, not to mention that the motherboard is much more expensive, and you start at 4 channel (4 sticks) of memory. Do you need way more PCI-E lanes (storage/networking/multi-GPU)? If you only need one GPU, and one big, fast SSD, the consumer platform is easily enough. If you're only playing games, grab a 3700X, decent X570 motherboard, 2x16gb of RAM and be happy since games are going to be optimized for a downsized version of your PC for the next 7-10 years when the next playstation/xbox come out. Yea its pretty much mainly for gaming and occasional streaming. PSU i'm thinking Seasonic Focus Plus, RAM 3200CL14/3600C15/3600C16 (w/e is on sale), SSD i'm thinking 2TB Crucial MX500 or 2TB Samsung 860 EVO (w/e is cheaper), HDD Crucial/WD/Toshiba (w/e is on sale), Cooler Noctua NH-D15, GPU GTX 1660 Ti. And yea I'll look into doing a 3700X/3900X build w/ x570 mobo. Build looks fine? | ||
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ZerOCoolSC2
9012 Posts
Where are you buying your parts from? I'd definitely check their BF/CM sales as you're probably going to be a kid in a candy store. | ||
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TT1
Canada10012 Posts
On November 27 2019 08:06 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote: Lmui got me with the M.2 stick of SSD @ 500GB. That thing is pure speed. If you can find the Samsung M.2 or even the Intel version, it's absolutely worth it. Everything looks good to me. Where are you buying your parts from? I'd definitely check their BF/CM sales as you're probably going to be a kid in a candy store. got a canada computers store close to me, gonna check out the prices on black friday | ||
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MeSaber
Sweden1235 Posts
MX500 is top notch for budget, but i would recommend M.2 SSD instead to fully utilize the speed if budget allows. As for X570 its a gimmick atm where pci 4.0 cant be used so if you can find all features you need on B450 its the cheaper way. Else its X570 but beware of the cheapest boards as they suck. Recommended if going 3900x. As Motherboard is what keeps everything together you do need to check reviews for VRMs and stability/bios issues before buy. Plenty of reviews (Buildzoid on YT) of all boards | ||
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TT1
Canada10012 Posts
for X570 MOBOs i was planning to go by this (so Asrock X570 Taichi/Gigabyte X570 Aorus Ultra): So i should be aiming for B450 + 3700x (SATA SSD here) and X570 + 3900x (M.2 SSD here to take advantage of PCIE 4.0)? I dunno much about M.2 SSD's, i prefer having a lot of space on my SSD and the benchmarks shown here show good value for 2TB 860 EVO/MX500: https://www.tweaktown.com/articles/8661/best-ssd-gaming-over-120-ssds-tested/index2.html | ||
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