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MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-27 00:14:54
November 27 2019 00:03 GMT
#14121
Yea for streaming and scr you dont need much at all.

Have you tried nvenc encoding in obs with 1660Ti? It releaves the cpu from stress as 1660Ti got dedicated nvenc chip for streaming.

What you need: 6 core minimum, psu 600w tops, B450 board (still see no reason paying more for X570 mobo than cpu unless way cheaper and not a crap board which is highly unlikely). M.2 SSD recommended to use its speed. 3200mhz ram 16GB.

And as a final word. When you see something cheap, be sceptical and YT/google reviews. You dont wanna come home with something very old or crap.


Edit: response to your edit. Both those SSDs are great. Only thing stopping is your budget. You dont need pci4.0 for max speed M.2 as your SSD will rarely run max speed. For regular use you wont see a difference except when copying a file but that will take seconds anyway for big files. What you do is just pay a heavy premium for a few secs time saved. Imo not worth it unless you do content creation.

If you got a hefty budget you could max it all out. But there will be heavy diminishing returns.
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10022 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-27 02:18:10
November 27 2019 00:09 GMT
#14122
ill go shopping with this list

MOBO: tomahawk max or pro carbon ac B450
CPU: 3700x
SSD: 860 EVO or MX500 (1 or 2 TB)
HDD: Crucial/WD/Toshiba
PSU: Seasonic Focus Plus/Corsair RMX (650W pref)
RAM: 3200C14/3600C15/3600C16
Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 or Dark Rock Pro 4
GPU: GTX 1660 Ti
Case: w/e

and ya i use nvenc encoding in obs, works well
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9037 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-27 00:14:40
November 27 2019 00:09 GMT
#14123
On November 27 2019 08:46 TT1 wrote:
yea i mainly play SCR and any game i play is on the lowest settings anyways

for X570 MOBOs i was planning to go by this (so Asrock X750 Taichi/Gigabyte X570 Aorus Ultra):



So i should be aiming for B450 + 3700x (SATA SSD here) and X570 + 3900x (M.2 SSD here to take advantage of PCIE 4.0)? I dunno much about M.2 SSD's, i prefer having a lot of space on my SSD and the benchmarks shown here show good value for 2TB 860 EVO/MX500:

https://www.tweaktown.com/articles/8661/best-ssd-gaming-over-120-ssds-tested/index2.html

You can get the M.2 and load programs on it to execute faster (can be done with typical SSD as well) and store files on the HDD. That way, you can save some money. I got my 500GB M.2 for 89$ USD and then a 2TB internal hdd for 50$ USD. Every program I load take less than 5 seconds to open.

That fan looks massive as hell! I hope you have clearance to put that literal baby in there. The stock 3700x works fine for me and I do some heavy rendering on Cinema 4D + VRay.

In the end, you'll have to go with what makes sense for you and your budget and what you are wanting to accomplish.

I'm on the lookout for a decent gaming chair this week. Any recs?
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10022 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-27 00:18:41
November 27 2019 00:14 GMT
#14124
On November 27 2019 09:09 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2019 08:46 TT1 wrote:
yea i mainly play SCR and any game i play is on the lowest settings anyways

for X570 MOBOs i was planning to go by this (so Asrock X750 Taichi/Gigabyte X570 Aorus Ultra):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMRUhtMs9Ok&feature=emb_title

So i should be aiming for B450 + 3700x (SATA SSD here) and X570 + 3900x (M.2 SSD here to take advantage of PCIE 4.0)? I dunno much about M.2 SSD's, i prefer having a lot of space on my SSD and the benchmarks shown here show good value for 2TB 860 EVO/MX500:

https://www.tweaktown.com/articles/8661/best-ssd-gaming-over-120-ssds-tested/index2.html

You can get the M.2 and load programs on it to execute faster (can be done with typical SSD as well) and store files on the HDD. That way, you can save some money. I got my 500GB M.2 for 89$ USD and then a 2TB internal hdd for 50$ USD. Every program I load take less than 5 seconds to open.

In the end, you'll have to go with what makes sense for you and your budget and what you are wanting to accomplish.

I'm on the lookout for a decent gaming chair this week. Any recs?


Chairs are tough to rec, it varies from person to person (mostly comes down to posture). I have a Steelcase Leap V2 and love it, my friend has a Herman Miller Aeron and loves it.. i'm personally not a big fan of it .
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-27 00:45:39
November 27 2019 00:36 GMT
#14125
There arent that many good B450 boards to choose from. I would go with either tomahawk max or pro carbon ac. The latter got the best features (intel lan, great audio chip, wifi, spdif) and heatsinks. Both OC very good though.

https://shorturl.at/acsC3

-.-
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10022 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-27 01:53:45
November 27 2019 00:58 GMT
#14126
On November 27 2019 09:36 MeSaber wrote:
There arent that many good B450 boards to choose from. I would go with either tomahawk max or pro carbon ac. The latter got the best features (intel lan, great audio chip, wifi, spdif) and heatsinks. Both OC very good though.

https://shorturl.at/acsC3

https://youtu.be/J69aiJJEHzQ


any cause for concern or was this fixed? should i opt for the b450 tomahawk max instead of the old 1?

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/cfxeq7/stop_recommending_msi_b450_motherboards_for_ryzen/
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-27 06:52:29
November 27 2019 06:32 GMT
#14127
Max version is preflashed for ryzen 3000 series. And pro carbon ac got a flashback button to flash it yourself.

Its simply to update the bios. Shouldnt be any issues. Ive not heard the exact issues there was. No pro-reviewer seem to raise any concerns.

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Crossfire-Motherboard-B450-Tomahawk/dp/B07WF6ZQST customer reviews. Be sure to check date of review.
-.-
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
November 28 2019 11:29 GMT
#14128
http://forums.redflagdeals.com/amazon-ca-lava-hot-ryzen-2700-159-2700x-189-3600x-229-3800x-396-2333452/

If you're committing to buying a computer, I'd pick up the 3800x now. It's literally cheaper than a 3700x for bf in canada.

Msi Tomahawk max b450 is my default recommendation since it ticks pretty much all the "good enough" boxes, and even if you don't get the max, it has bios flashback so all you need is a usb drive.

Buildzoid already did all the legwork if you want to explore every other option up or down the price scale that's available to you.

ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9037 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-28 22:09:17
November 28 2019 20:20 GMT
#14129
So back to the chair thing. What are some decent brands that you all have heard of or have tested out? I'm not dropping 400$+ on a chair, so anything in the 100-200 range is preferable. I looked on craigslist and got nothing. Tried facebook marketplace and struck out.
Nix that. I just checked and saw this for 80$. Should be worth it.
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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
November 28 2019 22:46 GMT
#14130
Depends. You can get some really good ergonomic or orthopaedic office chairs for £250-300 (converts to about $250-$300 nowadays since in UK we pay 20% VAT) nowadays which is around what some of these "gaming chairs" are going for. Which is what I guess you are going for. They are not really built for leaning back and relaxing like "gaming chairs" can do. Office chair are more of built so you can work on a keyboard without RSI.

Gaming chairs, even though they look utterly ridiculous, are actually based on heavy duty surveillance/control room chairs where they are expect to be sat on for 24hrs. Heavy foam. You can practically sleep in it. Actual professional heavy duty chairs cost $500+ so gaming chairs are actually good value for money in that respect.

Personally I'll go visit a computer shop website with a good reputation. I use www.scan.co.uk and www.overclockers.co.uk, but obviously you want to use your own local websites. I wouldn't buy a chair for under $150 unless secondhand. Might seem expensive but even in the modern age of IKEA, good furniture is expensive.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10022 Posts
November 28 2019 22:47 GMT
#14131
100-200 budget, maybe a Markus?

https://www.ikea.com/ca/en/p/markus-office-chair-vissle-dark-gray-90289172/
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
November 28 2019 23:06 GMT
#14132
Okay...80$ for a chair? That seems suspiciously cheap if it isn't second hand. I'll wouldn't buy it if it isn't from a reputable brand. And if it is, that arm rest looks degraded already.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11786 Posts
November 28 2019 23:32 GMT
#14133
On November 29 2019 07:47 TT1 wrote:
100-200 budget, maybe a Markus?

https://www.ikea.com/ca/en/p/markus-office-chair-vissle-dark-gray-90289172/


I have had that chair for about 6 years now and am very happy with it.

I would however recommend that you don't buy a chair without sitting in it first. The most important thing is that it feels good to sit in.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9037 Posts
November 28 2019 23:39 GMT
#14134
The chair is secondhand. I'm going Sunday to check it out and if it's right, I'll get it. I'm not looking for something really expensive at the moment, just something that will work in the meantime. The armrest isn't too big of a worry (can always be replaced/mended).
Panzamelano
Profile Joined September 2010
Colombia248 Posts
November 29 2019 00:04 GMT
#14135
Hey,

so ive been going trough the whole thing and feel sorta ready to upgrade during the sales on black friday and cyber monday, im not really set on what to buy and would love some good suggestions on what i should be looking to buy for my upgrades.


What is your current build?

this here is more or less my current build: https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/8mCKp8

missing from there is:

GPU: Nvidia Geforce GTX 950
Monitor: samsung s22f350fhl

all of it is built in an old offbrand case, will provide measures when i can (probably in an hour or 2).

What is your monitor's native resolution?

1920x1080 , im also looking to go into a dual monitor setup with two of these same monitors

Why do you want to upgrade? What do you want to achieve with the upgrade?

overall it just feels like the hardware is falling behind, and im looking to play most newer tittles on high with stable FPS, and just get as good of an upgrade as possible with my budget tbh.

What is your budget?

around 1300 USD

What country will you be buying your parts in?

ill be buying my stuff online from Colombia

If you have any brand or retailer preferences, please specify.

not really.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10022 Posts
November 29 2019 03:00 GMT
#14136
On November 28 2019 20:29 Lmui wrote:
http://forums.redflagdeals.com/amazon-ca-lava-hot-ryzen-2700-159-2700x-189-3600x-229-3800x-396-2333452/

If you're committing to buying a computer, I'd pick up the 3800x now. It's literally cheaper than a 3700x for bf in canada.

Msi Tomahawk max b450 is my default recommendation since it ticks pretty much all the "good enough" boxes, and even if you don't get the max, it has bios flashback so all you need is a usb drive.

Buildzoid already did all the legwork if you want to explore every other option up or down the price scale that's available to you.
https://youtu.be/ti38JS8RuPU


Waiting to see if the 3900x is going on sale first, i'm getting it if it does.

https://www.canadacomputers.com/search/results_details.php?language=en&keywords=ryzen 3900x
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
November 29 2019 15:50 GMT
#14137
Its brand new with few available. Probably not.
-.-
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-30 07:22:07
November 29 2019 19:29 GMT
#14138
Yeah i ordered a 3900x at launch and just got it this week at MSRP, nearly half a year later. Other stores have been selling above MSRP when they're not out of stock. If you can get one at MSRP with the 2 games offer that's better than i've ever seen so don't be holding out for a discount!

Thinking a bit about it today, i'm gonna make a system update blog to document my current benchmarks, expectations & new testing results. Will probably have a lot of it done over the next week or so.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
November 30 2019 08:39 GMT
#14139
@Cyro nice!

Buildzoid dropped a new rant. Its a bit better Than his last one:
-.-
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
December 03 2019 00:54 GMT
#14140
On November 30 2019 17:39 MeSaber wrote:
@Cyro nice!


Good video!

My install is up and running without issue. Everything seems to be going surprisingly well, actually!
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"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
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