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When using this resource, please read the opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9062 Posts
December 03 2019 01:38 GMT
#14141
On December 03 2019 09:54 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2019 17:39 MeSaber wrote:
@Cyro nice!


Good video!

My install is up and running without issue. Everything seems to be going surprisingly well, actually!
[image loading]

Come on! Give us the benchmarks we really want!
dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-06 18:08:50
December 06 2019 17:13 GMT
#14142
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/z9BWtp

Thoughts on this build?

General idea is a powerful, relatively quiet gaming pc that will be solid for the next 6+ years.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20340 Posts
December 06 2019 18:08 GMT
#14143
It's a great cooler and overkill so easy quiet, the graphics card will be your loudest part under load
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
December 06 2019 18:10 GMT
#14144
On December 07 2019 03:08 Cyro wrote:
It's a great cooler and overkill so easy quiet, the graphics card will be your loudest part under load


I don't think going crazy on aftermarket GPU coolers is worth it though :-(. At least everything but that will be nice and quiet.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9062 Posts
December 12 2019 13:43 GMT
#14145
Anyone got any recs on speakers? I need a decent setup because I don't really want to wear my headphones every time I watch a video or game or just play music. Checked Best Buy, Newegg and Amazon.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-13 04:09:59
December 13 2019 04:09 GMT
#14146
On December 12 2019 22:43 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Anyone got any recs on speakers? I need a decent setup because I don't really want to wear my headphones every time I watch a video or game or just play music. Checked Best Buy, Newegg and Amazon.

My personal recommendation would be to avoid your classic PC speaker setups and go for cheap-ish studio monitors instead, but it obviously depends on your pricerange. Something like the JBL 3 Series plus an USB audio interface (something like this) & cables would come in at 150-250$, depending on if you can catch them on a sale or not.

Below 100$ I had a decent experience with Logitech setups but hopefully someone else will be able to make a proper suggestion.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
December 13 2019 19:54 GMT
#14147
I've literally had cheap speakers my whole life, and use headphones when I care about the sound.
Agreed with r.Evo above though, "gaming" speakers aren't as good as a good set of bookshelf/studio speakers

A good 2.1 system will beat a mediocre 5.1/7.1 system any day for a simple PC speaker setup though.

Just make sure to get a wired system, since bluetooth has a crapton of delay problems that aren't fun to sort out, if they can even be sorted.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9062 Posts
December 13 2019 20:01 GMT
#14148
On December 14 2019 04:54 Lmui wrote:
I've literally had cheap speakers my whole life, and use headphones when I care about the sound.
Agreed with r.Evo above though, "gaming" speakers aren't as good as a good set of bookshelf/studio speakers

A good 2.1 system will beat a mediocre 5.1/7.1 system any day for a simple PC speaker setup though.

Just make sure to get a wired system, since bluetooth has a crapton of delay problems that aren't fun to sort out, if they can even be sorted.

I was going to get a sound bar and use that. Had a wireless sub and wired bar. But then r.Evo posted that link and now I'm conflicted hahaha. It's roughly the same price as the bar if I get the attachment he also posted. I'll decide after the holidays.
MaieVShadowsonG
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom43 Posts
December 17 2019 12:28 GMT
#14149
Hello everyone,

I have a problem with my laptop. I have an Alienware 17 R4 with Intel® Core™ i7-7820HK, 16GB (2x8GB) 2400MHz DDR4 SDRAM Non-ECC and NVIDIA GTX 1080 8GB. I bought it in July 2017. it is already 2 years old and it isn't working properly. For example when I try to play overwatch or witcher 3 it is getting too warm and then every 2 seconds it lags or stutters. I have lowered the graphics to absolutely minimum and the problem continues. I don't lag at all with starcraft 2 or diablo 3. I thought 2 years ago that I bought that laptop that it wouldn't have any problems playing any games cause it was supposed to be high end.

I have already cleaned the ventilation and still the same problem.

I just ran unigine heaven benchmark and I was running the hwinfo behind and the msi afterburner. as it seems it can work fine till it gets up to 71 oC degrees which at that point it drops the fps to 9 and then again goes up to 120 fps. I have cleaned everything and I don't know what else to do.

This is from the simple questions simple answers forum

Could you help me out please?
Cheers
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9062 Posts
December 19 2019 19:34 GMT
#14150
Been having issues with the AMD Radeon Adrenaline software lately. Black screens mostly while playing FFXIV. Updating now (or attempting to, doesn't seem to be working), and will report what happens after a day or so. Also had some apps just completely fail, so we'll see if this fixes that issue as well.
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
December 19 2019 19:54 GMT
#14151
On December 20 2019 04:34 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Been having issues with the AMD Radeon Adrenaline software lately. Black screens mostly while playing FFXIV. Updating now (or attempting to, doesn't seem to be working), and will report what happens after a day or so. Also had some apps just completely fail, so we'll see if this fixes that issue as well.


Yep.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/ebz5vk/radeon_software_19123_tomorrow_december_18_2019/

Cross your fingers and hope that the release fixes it.
The subreddit has been pretty cluttered with driver problems, and you're definitely not alone with those problems.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9062 Posts
December 19 2019 21:27 GMT
#14152
On December 20 2019 04:54 Lmui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2019 04:34 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Been having issues with the AMD Radeon Adrenaline software lately. Black screens mostly while playing FFXIV. Updating now (or attempting to, doesn't seem to be working), and will report what happens after a day or so. Also had some apps just completely fail, so we'll see if this fixes that issue as well.


Yep.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/ebz5vk/radeon_software_19123_tomorrow_december_18_2019/

Cross your fingers and hope that the release fixes it.
The subreddit has been pretty cluttered with driver problems, and you're definitely not alone with those problems.

Once it started happening more frequently, I started looking around and found the same thing. I didn't upgrade to the beta however. The 12.12.19 patch seems to be working. Turned off Freesync and windowed FFXIV and it held for a good hour or so. No problems so far. Will continue to monitor and try BL3 to see if happens again.

Before the last update, it was perfect. Everything ran smooth.
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15366 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-25 00:50:07
December 25 2019 00:49 GMT
#14153
Can anyone recommend a great 87 key mechanical keyboard? No nonsense with brown switches preferred. For typing and Starcraft.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
December 25 2019 02:20 GMT
#14154
On December 25 2019 09:49 zatic wrote:
Can anyone recommend a great 87 key mechanical keyboard? No nonsense with brown switches preferred. For typing and Starcraft.

https://www.daskeyboard.com/daskeyboard-4C-tenkeyless-professional/ - no nonsense

I've also heard good things about ducky ones, but they're a bit more stylized. Probably the cheapest option.

Obviously there's the Filco's as well, but they're quite expensive.

I personally went with a WASD custom one (white frame, brown switches, blank sky blue keycaps), but that's up there with Filco's in terms of cost. You really have to decide how much you want the keyboard to stand out.

Can't really go wrong with any of these, as they're all solidly built and will last basically forever.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9062 Posts
December 25 2019 06:36 GMT
#14155
I got a ducky one full keyboard with blue switches. Heavy. Types extremely well. Overall a solid build.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10045 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-25 21:32:26
December 25 2019 21:25 GMT
#14156
On December 25 2019 09:49 zatic wrote:
Can anyone recommend a great 87 key mechanical keyboard? No nonsense with brown switches preferred. For typing and Starcraft.


https://www.nizkeyboard.com/products/niz-2019-new-x87-electro-capacitive-bluetooth-keyboard-non-rgb-white-black?variant=30347148066887

Best KB for SC. Their regular 35g non bluetooth is 129$, there's also a bluetooth 45g version for 169$. The keyboard is a hybrid topre, it's semi mechanical and semi membrane. Typing experience is great, i also have a Topre Realforce and i prefer the typing experience of my Plum over it.

They also have more compact versions, if you're looking for something smaller than a TKL board:

https://www.nizkeyboard.com/products/2019-new-micro-82-ec-keyboard-s-ble-ble-rgb-or-non-rgb
https://www.nizkeyboard.com/products/plum-mini-84-pro-keys-35g-45g-electro-capacitive-keyboard-rgb-non-rgb-backlighting



If you want a great standard mech board your best option is probably a Leopold FC750R:

ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15366 Posts
December 26 2019 14:05 GMT
#14157
I already have a first generation DasKeyboard which after almost 10 years of use is as good as new. Those things really last forever. But I am looking for something more compact.

The FC750R looks perfect, thanks. But I can't seem to find them anywhere in stock and shipping to EU Thanks anyway.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20340 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-06 00:36:44
January 06 2020 00:34 GMT
#14158
AMD rebranded the 2600 as the r5 1600 AF, it's basically the same CPU but it's selling for $85 now.

https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3547-amd-r5-1600-af-cpu-review-best-cpu-under-100

$85 for a 6c12t zen+ CPU, pretty nuts. With a cheap motherboard and RAM prices as low as they are now, you could make a very functional dedicated GPU system at low budgets.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20340 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-06 17:30:07
January 06 2020 17:22 GMT
#14159
Big new Nvidia driver!

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/geforce-gtx-16-series-super-game-ready-driver/

Some new features like a supposedly good driver-level framerate limit. Awaiting third party testing because i don't have the tools required to compare Uncapped vs RTSS vs NvLimit. Currently the best solution for the smoothest and lowest lag experience, before this at least, is to cap your FPS with RTSS to a level that doesn't max out either your CPU or GPU.

That works exceptionally well for avoiding external buffering and keeping the framerate extremely smooth, but it comes at a cost of 1 frame of buffering on RTSS's end. I'm not sure that even a driver level solution is capable of beating that.

Some in-game solutions have slightly less latency, but they don't smooth out the frametimes as much because they lack that buffer and it's doing really useful work. You can eat the 1 frame latency hit on higher refresh rate monitors (240hz+, maybe 144) but you're probably best using ingame cap instead on low refresh rate monitors.

---

https://www.anandtech.com/show/15295/nvidia-asus-unveil-360hz-gsync-monitor-asus-rog-swift-360

360hz module gsync. Can't wait to try this thing, my bank account is screaming
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
January 06 2020 17:47 GMT
#14160
The nvidia driver updates and 360hz monitors are exciting, but the biggest releases I'm looking at are the 27" 144hz low latency IPS/VA monitors. I'm hoping for the colours of VA, with the response times of TN. The LG GL850 is close to what I want, but after owning a VA, the colour reproduction is amazing. Ideally, I'd want an OLED, but they don't handle my computer use cases very well, with the amount of white in the average browsing page.

uLED displays are still too far away unfortunately, looking at the CES announcements so far.

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