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I guess I'll ask since GPU overclocking was brought up:
I have a Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 1GB (http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202004), and use MSI afterburner to overclock it. It runs stable at a maxed out core clock (1050MHz), but if I increase the memory clock at all everything crashes once it goes to load.
I don't have control over core voltage, only Power Limit (set to +20%), core clock, and memory clock. Temperatures are low at load (65C tops), just the card crashes when I increase the memory clock even by only 50MHz.
Is it meant to be like this, or is my card's memory low quality, or am I doing something wrong?
Thanks~
Edit: I'm stable at 1250MHz RAM actually, and I just discovered Sapphire Trixx which according to a newegg review may allow voltage control and even higher clock speeds than 1050MHz...
Edit2: Sapphire Trixx gives me full control including VDDC. If I'm not mistaken, as long as it's running cool enough, it's safe right?
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United Kingdom20326 Posts
You'd need to stick below certain voltages
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I am looking to buy 2 different laptops. One for about 1000 us dollars, and the other for under 1500 us dollar. Both of them are for normal gaming i guess.
On the cheaper one, i simply want to get the most for the money. Not any specific size. I just need it to be powerfull , as possible.
For the 1500 one, i will be using an external mouse and keyboard, headset, and i would like it to be 17.3 inches since i will be using that screen.
I was looking into this one as the more expensive one, any feedback or help needed.http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00COQIKB4/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
As for the 1000 dollar one, i am having a hard time finding one. Thanks
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United Kingdom20326 Posts
Are they both for you? sure you want two laptops?
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No, the 1500 dollar one is for me. The other one is for a friend who plays casual games and needs the most out of his money for 1000. Since i was having a hard time finding many at that price i decided to come ask u guys :D
And to see if the one i have in mind for myself gets the community s approval,lol
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On October 14 2013 08:04 xasuma wrote:
I am looking to buy 2 different laptops. One for about 1000 us dollars, and the other for under 1500 us dollar. Both of them are for normal gaming i guess.
On the cheaper one, i simply want to get the most for the money. Not any specific size. I just need it to be powerfull , as possible.
For the 1500 one, i will be using an external mouse and keyboard, headset, and i would like it to be 17.3 inches since i will be using that screen.
I was looking into this one as the more expensive one, any feedback or help needed.http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00COQIKB4/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
As for the 1000 dollar one, i am having a hard time finding one. Thanks
About the laptop:
- Why would you get a laptop without an SSD? Pretty sure it's standard nowadays.
- If it's for gaming, I'd try to find one with a better GPU. That one isn't bad, but a 780m is twice as powerful, but it depends on what kind of settings you want to play at.
- Awful battery life...
- 12GB RAM is way overkill, you don't even need half that.
All things considered though, it's not a terrible choice. You could do a lot worse, and laptops tend not to be very customizable (For obvious reasons). I'd try to find one with an SSD and more battery life instead of all the extra RAM, but if you can't find a better one, it's not too expensive.
I'm using a $2400 MBP w/ Retina and it's definitely bad value (650m, 2.3GHz i7), but I love using it as it's light, cool, quiet, and has fucking incredible battery life.
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United Kingdom20326 Posts
You can always put your own ssd in
- Awful battery life...
Quoting the spec on the page? It's a Haswell CPU and both are kepler GPU's with optimus. It's not like his power consumption at idle would be significantly worse than yours (unless i'm missing something), and power consumption when gaming would be pretty much the same too, in terms of performance per watt. It comes down pretty much to how you measure it, and battery size
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On October 14 2013 10:36 Cyro wrote:You can always put your own ssd in Quoting the spec on the page? It's a Haswell CPU and both are kepler GPU's with optimus. It's not like his power consumption at idle would be significantly worse than yours (unless i'm missing something), and power consumption when gaming would be pretty much the same too, in terms of performance per watt. It comes down pretty much to how you measure it, and battery size
There's a difference due to battery size, mainboard components, storage, OS, drivers, screen size, etc.
It definitely shouldn't be awful if not running games. For what it's worth, it gets 4 hours on notebookcheck's browser script test with normalized brightness etc. The 2012 15" rMBP gets a bit over 6 hours.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Asus-G750JW-Notebook.96316.0.html
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Apple-MacBook-Pro-15-Retina-2-3-GHz-Mid-2012.78959.0.html
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On October 14 2013 10:36 Cyro wrote:You can always put your own ssd in Quoting the spec on the page? It's a Haswell CPU and both are kepler GPU's with optimus. It's not like his power consumption at idle would be significantly worse than yours (unless i'm missing something), and power consumption when gaming would be pretty much the same too, in terms of performance per watt. It comes down pretty much to how you measure it, and battery size
Yeah, I would've assumed that the spec on the page was for idle/minimal usage. I didn't see an actual number for battery size, but if they quote 3.5 hours that isn't a lot I thought. My MBP lasts 7 hours if I stay on integrated graphics and don't use too much processor, hell I've had it last 8 before.
Maybe that laptop keeps its discrete GPU on all the time? Maybe the spec on the page meant for on-load? Or, as I assumed, it just has a much smaller battery.
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To me the battery isnt an issue at all since I will never use it without it being plug in to the wall. (I should have mentioned that , my bad).
And cyro said you can put your own SSD on it? Is that a fact?would I get the same kind of ssd's as I would for a PC , or are there different kinds for laptops? ( I would buy the up version with the 256 gb ssd in it, but I cant afford it now, however if I can add it in the future, I wouldn't mind that at all.)
Thanks again
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United Kingdom20326 Posts
Laptops use 2.5" drives, ssd's are 2.5", AFAIK you can just screw any in. I'd prefer to select a brand myself than use a random ssd that laptop seller threw in
Maybe that laptop keeps its discrete GPU on all the time?
It's just really bad to compare battery life figures from different tests, they can mean totally different things. I'm pretty sure the standards are similar, Haswell CPU + nvidia GPU on one laptop vs another shouldn't magically have a ton less battery life, unless the battery is half of the size on one of them to my knowledge. They should both use Optimus in the same or similar ways
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I am planning on building a pc once black friday comes around. (i heard newegg does great deals)
however, what im worried about is that are the deals on good items? I plan on building a pc that will be able to run Watch Dogs at high to max settings, as well be able to play other future games that will be released.
will these high end parts be on sale or will it be other medium to semi high parts that will be on sale?
additionally, I plan on building a pc with ~ $1000 budget. (I hoping that item price reduction for sales will help me greatly)
also, should i be planning what parts to get right now or later? (since i wont know the prices for sales til later i was waiting for then but i am a complete noob at this so i am worried that if i start later i will be behind in the planning and lose my chance for buying them during the sale)
thank you
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You should be planning now.
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how can i balance my build to around my budget maximally when i am planning on building around high end parts and looking to buy them from sales? ( i wouldnt be building a PC atm if i wont get them from sales. it seems like a waste of money if i build a medium spec PC when i can just try to get a high end PC during sales and cost the same as a medium spec PC at full price)
What planning route do you recommend since i wont be able to tell which parts will be on sale and at what price they will be?
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Sales are typically the same every year. If you don't do any planning than I can guarantee you're going to come up with a very stupid build or go over your budget.
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On October 14 2013 13:24 IMKR wrote:
how can i balance my build to around my budget maximally when i am planning on building around high end parts and looking to buy them from sales? ( i wouldnt be building a PC atm if i wont get them from sales. it seems like a waste of money if i build a medium spec PC when i can just try to get a high end PC during sales and cost the same as a medium spec PC at full price)
What planning route do you recommend since i wont be able to tell which parts will be on sale and at what price they will be?
http://pcpartpicker.com/
Probably the best way to pick out all the parts you want in your next build. You should also look into some of the sales websites like dealzon and slickdeals. I've been doing this for two months . . . But it's given meager results especially when there hasn't been holiday sales besides Labor Day. I'm sure when Cyber Monday rolls around, there will be a huge influx of electronic hardware popping up on those sites.
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On October 14 2013 13:32 skyR wrote:
Sales are typically the same every year. If you don't do any planning than I can guarantee you're going to come up with a very stupid build or go over your budget.
what do you mean by that? do you mean the same items as last year? If so, that means ill be getting outdated products, which I am trying to avoid.
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On October 14 2013 13:35 Headlines wrote:http://pcpartpicker.com/Probably the best way to pick out all the parts you want in your next build. You should also look into some of the sales websites like dealzon and slickdeals. I've been doing this for two months . . . But it's given meager results especially when there hasn't been holiday sales besides Labor Day. I'm sure when Cyber Monday rolls around, there will be a huge influx of electronic hardware popping up on those sites.
yeah i was planning on useing that website along with cyber monday deals.
but the problem is that i wont be able to plan around my budget with sales if i dont know what products will be on sale. I wish to make a build that is not only price efficient, but a good rig that will last me a while and thati can keep on upgrading down the road in couple years. I dont want to end up building a pc that is medium (Thats just my personality, Like if I want a bike, instead of buying a used one, i would rather save a bit more up and buy a new good bike)
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The newest model of the same stuff goes on sale every year, just go look.
Seasonic X, Samsung 840 (830 in the past), Intel 330 (320 and X25M in the past), Fractal Design Define, etc.
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Okay, tyvm for the help.
Unfortunately for you guys, I will be back when i need more help :D
I just feel bad because of the questions i ask. even with all the research and videos i watched, i feel like i know nothing.
Its been over 2 years since the day i first had the thought of building a pc and started looking into it, and i have read the whole thing of the first page of this thread by you (skyR) countless times for reference, yet i still feel like i know nothing.
its kinda scary for me due to the thought of spending hundreds of dollars on something that i feel like i dont know about.
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