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Cyro
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fusefuse
Estonia4644 Posts
1150+Z97+DDR3 is still going to be considerably cheaper than 1151+Z150+DDR4 if he's buying it tomorrow, do you have any better coolers in mind then for an overclocked 4790k than the allegedly terrible H50, that would still fit in his budget | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
i'm of the strong opinion that it's not worth buying a h50 at all for a haswell i7 (and probably for other cpu's unless it's very cheap) but not really up to date on cooler prices. You can check pcpartpicker for stuff like this: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rrb10212pg1 http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cryorig-cpu-cooler-h5ultimate can't help much with full builds ATM because i'm busy and don't know half of the parts and markets without researching for that specific case | ||
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bluegarfield
Singapore1128 Posts
He is still sticking to S340 case, that case can even fit NH-D14 or Hyper212 according to spec sheet, so those are better options for cooler at least. I dont know much about AIO either, never try one, and a bit hard to find one that fit the budget since I am sure where he is getting the parts or how much each part cost. Best bet probably just find some AIO review and pick anything that perform better than H50 while still fit the budget XD | ||
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bluegarfield
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Blazinghand
United States25558 Posts
On November 11 2015 22:42 Onegu wrote: CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K Devil’s Canyon Quad-Core 4.0 GHz LGA 1150 BX80646I74790K Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4600 This is a previous-generation i7 (4 cores, hyperthreading). You're probably better off with a current-gen i5 even than a previous-gen i7 if it can be helped. The 4790K is a great CPU, but is one generation older than the new 6XXX CPUs. That being said, AT YOUR CURRENT PRICE, this may be the best you can go with since it will have cheaper memory and mobos. That being said-- this is a previous-gen CPU, and so is a bit slower, i On November 11 2015 22:42 Onegu wrote: Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-Z97X-SLI LGA 1150 Intel Z97 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard This MoBo is acceptable for that CPU, but will need ot change if you change it. On November 11 2015 22:42 Onegu wrote: GPU: ZOTAC GeForce GTX 970 ZT-90101-10P 4GB 256-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support G-SYNC Support Video Card RAM: G.SKILL Sniper Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2400 (PC3 19200) Desktop Memory Model F3-2400C11D-16GSR Same comments as before on GTX 970 and brands, and the RAM looks fine. On November 11 2015 22:42 Onegu wrote: PSU: Rosewill Valens-700, Valens Series 700W Power Supply, 80 PLUS Gold Certified, Single +12V Rail, Intel 4th Gen CPU Ready, SLI & Crossfire Ready (Model:VALENS-700) I've had good experience with Rosewill CPUs. I'm not familiar with this particular model but it looks compatible with your system. On November 11 2015 22:42 Onegu wrote: HDD: Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive Bare Drive (Model:ST1000DM003) SSD: SAMSUNG 850 EVO 2.5" 250GB SATA III 3-D Vertical Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-75E250B/AM Both of these are solid choices for storage, imo. The Samsung SSD is what I would use, and Seagate Barracudas have served me well in the past. On November 11 2015 22:42 Onegu wrote: Case: NZXT S340 Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Case (Model:CA-S340W-B1) Cooling: CORSAIR Hydro Series H50 120mm Quiet Edition Liquid CPU Cooler – Intel Only Youv'e heard my thoughts on these; i'd go for an air cooler like a 212 EVO, or a Noctua NH-U14S if I cared a lot about OCing. Also the case is a bit no-frills. In summary, if I had total control of this build (and price was a factor so we're staying with the 4790K instead of moving to current-gen stuff): I'd definitely swap out the water cooler for a nice air cooler like the NH-U14S http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608041 I'd maybe spend a little more on a nicer case, like the Rosewill Thor V2 (i really like the cable management on that one) If I could find an equivalent PSU with 600W output, I might save some money going for that since this rig won't draw more than 600W | ||
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Reaps
United Kingdom1280 Posts
Intel Core i7 4790k 4ghz 16 GB RAM DDR3 MSI NVIDIA GTX 980 4gb MSI Z97 Gaming 5 Intel LGA1150 Z97 ATX Motherboard Corsair Builder Series CXM 600W Does that seem ok? I know the CPU might be a little old but I cant really afford more than this around (£800-900) Also will I need a separate cooler at all? I am not going to overclock. | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
I'm building my PC now and I'm super fucking nervous. My fan that I bought (Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO) said on the part picker list that it was compatible with my motherboard (ASUS Z170-K LGA 1151). However, the fan itself does NOT list this motherboard as compatible. It has 1150,1156 and 1156 but not 1151. Will it still work? I'm assuming it will but I want to be 500% sure Im not going to wreck something trying to install it. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25558 Posts
On November 12 2015 09:16 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: HELP! I'm building my PC now and I'm super fucking nervous. My fan that I bought (Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO) said on the part picker list that it was compatible with my motherboard (ASUS Z170-K LGA 1151). However, the fan itself does NOT list this motherboard as compatible. It has 1150,1156 and 1156 but not 1151. Will it still work? I'm assuming it will but I want to be 500% sure Im not going to wreck something trying to install it. Skylake (1151) CPU/Mobos use the same mounting specifications as older LGA115X heatsinks. Heatsinks that work with LGA 115X (including 1150) will work with LGA 1151. | ||
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bluegarfield
Singapore1128 Posts
On November 12 2015 03:48 Reaps wrote: Hey guys, just a few questions about this system I am going to get for gaming / streaming / recording. Intel Core i7 4790k 4ghz 16 GB RAM DDR3 MSI NVIDIA GTX 980 4gb MSI Z97 Gaming 5 Intel LGA1150 Z97 ATX Motherboard Corsair Builder Series CXM 600W Does that seem ok? I know the CPU might be a little old but I cant really afford more than this around (£800-900) Also will I need a separate cooler at all? I am not going to overclock. if you are not overclocking, stock cooler is fine. as for the cpu itself, k is for overclocking. it does come with higher clock speed out of the box compared to non-k version, but you can save some money going for non-k 4790 and h97 motherboard instead. not sure where gtx980 stands atm in terms of performace /price, but depending on what games you play and what resolution you can consider upgrading to sth better. or you can even downgrade to save money. Psu, it's popular opinion that that psu is really bad, trying finding something better by googling for psu tier list, pick ones that are from t2 at least that fit your remaining budget. | ||
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Onegu
United States9699 Posts
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SleepTech
United States222 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
Also I'm like 99% sure I fucking up putting the CPU into the MB so this might all be for nothing cause I wrecked it already. Also I just looked and my motherboard has a slight curvature in it now so it's probably fucked up too. I'm so fucking bad at this holy shit why did I even try? Also this heatsink is massive as shit and heavy, I'm scared that when I put it upright it's going to be too heavy for the motherboard. I might have to hold it up in some way, it's way too big | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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bluegarfield
Singapore1128 Posts
On November 12 2015 11:35 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Any tips for getting the IO panel and standoffs lined up with the motherboard? I cannot for the life of my get my motherboard in and I'm so scared of scratching something and breaking it. Also I'm like 99% sure I fucking up putting the CPU into the MB so this might all be for nothing cause I wrecked it already. Also I just looked and my motherboard has a slight curvature in it now so it's probably fucked up too. I'm so fucking bad at this holy shit why did I even try? Also this heatsink is massive as shit and heavy, I'm scared that when I put it upright it's going to be too heavy for the motherboard. I might have to hold it up in some way, it's way too big Since you have not put things in the case yet, use your motherboard box as test bench as try to plug in components outside of the case first to see if everything works correctly (cpu, ram, 24pin power + 8pin cpu power to the psu), onboard graphic/gpu to your monitor. power on and try to see if it boots up. If things are okay. Try to put things into the case again, slowly. You mentioned that the i/o shield doesnt fit at all? make sure things are in correct orientation and try to wiggle a bit first. If it's really i/o shield fault, you can actually do without it. As for the motherboard stand-off, it can be quite tight. Again, make sure you have the correct stand-off position for your motherboard size. Pay attention to 1 particular stand-off in the middle, where there is a header protruding up instead of hole for you to screw in. Find the corresponding hole on the motherboard, lower it onto that standoff, and nudge lightly to adjust the motherboard to fit the rest of the standoff and into the i/o cutout. Your cooler (Hyper212 EVO ??) is indeed massive, but not as massive as some other top cooler, and no it won't damage your motherboard with its weight. Just make sure you install it correctly. That one is quite difficult to install  can try looking at this, just an okayish guide but hope it helps somehow. | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On November 12 2015 15:24 bluegarfield wrote: Since you have not put things in the case yet, use your motherboard box as test bench as try to plug in components outside of the case first to see if everything works correctly (cpu, ram, 24pin power + 8pin cpu power to the psu), onboard graphic/gpu to your monitor. power on and try to see if it boots up. If things are okay. Try to put things into the case again, slowly. You mentioned that the i/o shield doesnt fit at all? make sure things are in correct orientation and try to wiggle a bit first. If it's really i/o shield fault, you can actually do without it. As for the motherboard stand-off, it can be quite tight. Again, make sure you have the correct stand-off position for your motherboard size. Pay attention to 1 particular stand-off in the middle, where there is a header protruding up instead of hole for you to screw in. Find the corresponding hole on the motherboard, lower it onto that standoff, and nudge lightly to adjust the motherboard to fit the rest of the standoff and into the i/o cutout. Your cooler (Hyper212 EVO ??) is indeed massive, but not as massive as some other top cooler, and no it won't damage your motherboard with its weight. Just make sure you install it correctly. That one is quite difficult to install can try looking at this, just an okayish guide but hope it helps somehow.Hi dude, I already installed it into the case so little late to test it. Just have to pray it works. I installed it without the IO shield because I just couldn't get it to fit right, though I might try taking off the back panel since I realized afterwords that was possible. As for the cooler, good to know it won't damage anything. It still seems way too heavy but if you say it'll work I'll trust you. Installing that thing wasn't really that bad, I was just confused while doing it since it seemed so oversized. Sorry for freaking out earlier, I do that sometimes when I'm stressed. | ||
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bluegarfield
Singapore1128 Posts
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Taelshin
Canada420 Posts
What is your budget? Roughly 2000dollars CAD. How ever if it was a deal breaker I could up to 2250ish. What is your monitor's native resolution? Ill be getting a new monitor but right now I am working with a 1920x1080 resolution monitor which has served me well and I intend to keep for this computer. What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings? I would like to be able to play the new fallout, day-z standalone, eve online, all on relatively high settings, I am willing to reduce graphics when needed, but it'd be nice to actually play a nice looking game for a change. What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming? Nothing, keep it simple, I have this pc i'm on now and an older laptop for browsing/work, Things like netflix/youtube/twitch would be about the only other things id use it for. Do you intend to overclock? Not if I don't have too, not very computer savy. Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire? Id prefer not to, after reading about them, it seems perhaps more trouble then its worth, again im not that computer literate so I think sticking with 1 strong GPU would be the best idea. (open to suggestions here though) Do you need an operating system? I have a window's 7 cd/driver. Id love to use that, but I have heard a lot of newer Pc's/components will only work with windows 10 ect. Willing to buy if I must. Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget? Yes, I will need a monitor, as far as size, right now I am using a 1920x1080 Pixel Resolution 23" LCD Display. It has been a great monitor honestly, I have some older dell monitors, smaller, fairly basic, id love to be able to use a 2 monitor setup on the new computer. As far as keyboard/mouse, i'm extremely basic, I like a simple style mouse, in fact I usually just prefer the basic dell mice(right click left click wheel and wheel click) but I have seen some of the more simple razor mice which would be acceptable. Keyboard is the same thing, i don't need anything crazy , the simpler, the better, mechanical or not, matters not. If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify. No, best quality for the best price is what i'm after, I don't know enough about specific brands to comment other wise.(my computer literate friend suggested I go for an intel chip, and he said some jargon that I didn't totally understand but he made it seems like it was a safer bet) What country will you be buying your parts in? Well I live in East Coast Canada, I assume the majority of the parts will be coming from that states. If you have any retailer preferences, please specify. I do not, same as the brand pref's. One other thing ill point out is that the Canadian dollar is trash right now, so it might be a poor time to be buying a PC. I am looking to order soon, but could wait, this will be an X-mas gift to my self. Thanks for your time everyone I hope this was thorough enough to warrant a response. | ||
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bluegarfield
Singapore1128 Posts
On November 12 2015 16:53 Taelshin wrote: Hey everyone I'm looking for helping building/buying a pc. I havent gotten a new one in years and I always just bought dell pc's (Have had great luck with them, they all worked well) but this time I really want a gaming machine. Ive never built a PC but I have a friend who would be able to help me plug everything in. + Show Spoiler + What is your budget? Roughly 2000dollars CAD. How ever if it was a deal breaker I could up to 2250ish. What is your monitor's native resolution? Ill be getting a new monitor but right now I am working with a 1920x1080 resolution monitor which has served me well and I intend to keep for this computer. What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings? I would like to be able to play the new fallout, day-z standalone, eve online, all on relatively high settings, I am willing to reduce graphics when needed, but it'd be nice to actually play a nice looking game for a change. What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming? Nothing, keep it simple, I have this pc i'm on now and an older laptop for browsing/work, Things like netflix/youtube/twitch would be about the only other things id use it for. Do you intend to overclock? Not if I don't have too, not very computer savy. Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire? Id prefer not to, after reading about them, it seems perhaps more trouble then its worth, again im not that computer literate so I think sticking with 1 strong GPU would be the best idea. (open to suggestions here though) Do you need an operating system? I have a window's 7 cd/driver. Id love to use that, but I have heard a lot of newer Pc's/components will only work with windows 10 ect. Willing to buy if I must. Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget? Yes, I will need a monitor, as far as size, right now I am using a 1920x1080 Pixel Resolution 23" LCD Display. It has been a great monitor honestly, I have some older dell monitors, smaller, fairly basic, id love to be able to use a 2 monitor setup on the new computer. As far as keyboard/mouse, i'm extremely basic, I like a simple style mouse, in fact I usually just prefer the basic dell mice(right click left click wheel and wheel click) but I have seen some of the more simple razor mice which would be acceptable. Keyboard is the same thing, i don't need anything crazy , the simpler, the better, mechanical or not, matters not. If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify. No, best quality for the best price is what i'm after, I don't know enough about specific brands to comment other wise.(my computer literate friend suggested I go for an intel chip, and he said some jargon that I didn't totally understand but he made it seems like it was a safer bet) What country will you be buying your parts in? Well I live in East Coast Canada, I assume the majority of the parts will be coming from that states. If you have any retailer preferences, please specify. I do not, same as the brand pref's. One other thing ill point out is that the Canadian dollar is trash right now, so it might be a poor time to be buying a PC. I am looking to order soon, but could wait, this will be an X-mas gift to my self. Thanks for your time everyone I hope this was thorough enough to warrant a response. Well, with 2000CAD you can pretty much buy the top end spec for gaming now. I quickly put together some parts just for reference, as price and availability may vary. PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: Intel Core i5-6600 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($287.01 @ Vuugo) Motherboard: Asus H170 PRO GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($174.93 @ DirectCanada) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($85.98 @ Newegg Canada) Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($113.01 @ Vuugo) Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.01 @ Vuugo) Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB FTW ACX 2.0+ Video Card ($889.98 @ Newegg Canada) Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($129.99 @ NCIX) Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.93 @ DirectCanada) Total: $1848.84 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-11-12 07:46 EST-0500 some explanations on why picking those, but really with 2000CAD you can almost buy anything you want, hence double check where you are buying + Show Spoiler [explanation] + CPU: non-overclock, perform well enough for gaming. Still have budget if you want to overclock (6600K) or if you want to upgrade to i7, but the performance improvement wont be much This one should come with stock cooler, so dont need to buy one aftermarket. If you are worried about temperature, grab something like CM Hyper212 evo Motherboard: H170 goes with non-k processor. You can go with Z170 for better RAM speed, more features that you are probably not gonna use, but it's unlikely to be massive improvement. One thing to note is these boards cant do SLI, so if you want dual card in the future your only choice is AMD XFire. As for the particular model, just randomly picked. This one has USB type-C, may be a plus. Memory: The above motherboard only support RAM with this speed. Can even go 16GB if you like Storage: Most popular combination Video card: 980Ti is probably the strongest single card right now that make sense. Or you can go AMD FuryX route, best on AMD side. Pick whatever you like, your budget allows these 2 best options. These cards can serve you well up to 4K gaming, depending on what monitor you are planning to buy. At 4K, some games may require toning down graphic settings, but these games are bitches that no single card can handle at the moment. Alternatively, if you plan to stick to 1080p gaming, downgrading GPU to something like GTX970 or R9 390 can save you decent amount. Case: Something that I have worked with. Really nice overall PSU: Since it's still within budget, I just pick some top end model. Can downgrade a bit to save some money. May want to go 600W if you choose FuryX for GPU As for windows, you can use your windows 7 disc to install and then upgrade to windows 10 for free (until July 2016). | ||
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Taelshin
Canada420 Posts
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