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On September 30 2013 00:59 plgElwood wrote:
I have not tried SSDs but most the time my system boots in, it´s checking in all drives (4xHDD + DVDRW), telling me IRQs. once windows loading screen is up i can use the system in 15 secs, including password typing.
"in 15 secs"
That is an eternity, I seriously recommend an ssd. I wouldn't build a computer without one these days.
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If that´s the only pro for SSD it´s not worth it. I guess the windows "search" would go smoother, but i never use that.
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On September 29 2013 23:11 Cyro wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2013 22:56 r.Evo wrote:On September 29 2013 22:20 plgElwood wrote:On September 29 2013 21:15 Blaec wrote:On September 29 2013 19:58 plgElwood wrote:
So i was guessing now what CPU my new System to Build arround:
will contain 8gb DDR3 1600mhz, GTX760 OC, Standard non SSD HDDs, and the Scythe Mugen4.
Most Expensive:
Core i5 4670K + Z87 Board Haswell is max 8% better per ghz (No advantage in Today´s games...) on single core, produces more heat + has a terrible heatspreader, most likely "hard" to overclock without upping Vcore.
220+140€
Core i5 4670 + H87 Board
MAAAYBE you can set every core to work at 3.8 Ghz permanently on H87, if its buggy or build by fullmoon.
Will most likely be a 3.6Ghz CPU forever if all cores get something to do.
Still bad heatspreader on die.
190+100€
Core i5 3570K + Z77 Board
Can be overclocked more freely, has a better heatspreader. Maybe will achieve stable 4.0-4.2 ghz on normal temp and Vcore.
200+80€ Same as above
I like to leech out the hardware to the last bit. I most likely will not change CPU/GPU, but get everything new all 4-5 years.
If you are definitely going to get a cooler then get a fully overclockable setup. Are the z87 and z77 you are looking at comparable? Because there shouldn't be that much of a price disparity for a similarly capable mobo. And if you are thinking of not getting a SSD I advise you think again. Go down to a h81 and non 'k', ditch the cooler if that allows you to get an SSD. SSD >>>>>>> overclocking. + Show Spoiler +On September 29 2013 20:41 Fruktsoda wrote:Was planning on upgrading my pc a bit but Im not entirely sure when it comes to computers (I can install new parts without any kind of problem, but I dont have a single clue if different parts go together or not) so I come to you guys for some guidelines  Current build Silver Power SP - SS500 500W PSU ASUS P8Z77 - V LX, Socket - 1155 Intel core i5 2400 @3.1 16GB ram Powercolor Radeon HD6870 1GB GDDR5 1 TB hdd Mainly planning to get a new graphics card, powersupply and an SSD. Any recommendations? Thanks in advance. Samsung 840 or 840 evo depending how much you ok with spending. I wouldn't get any less than 120gb. Do you need a new PSU? GPU wise grab a 760 / 7970 / 770 depending how much you want to spend or wait for AMDs new offerings in the next month. Will the SSD Give me more FPS (SC2 / ARMA 3) or just better loading times? As someone who got his recently and is super fucking happy about it: It gives you a new way of life. :3 "Just" better loading times is pretty nuts when it's just so much faster. Wait till you're rebooting for fun. ....are there any important programs to test it out when it comes to OCing my 770GTX via EVGA? I'm currently using the integrated test and the EVGA OC Scanner. What's weird is that it sometimes seems to clock down back to stock without temperature going above 80°C. e.g. in the Heaven Benchmark it runs just fine @1293Mhz and then at some point the screen goes black for half a second and comes back with stock speeds. At higher clocks it just straight up gives an error message after a couple of minutes max, but I haven't seen a single artifact yet. Is there any obvious configuration setting that can cause that downclock besides temperature? Power. You giving it 111% power limit? You shouldn't hit that in nonsynthetics though, i've only hit it in furmark. Also if screen goes black etc then it's probably driver soft crash, oc pushed too far. If you're using heaven, set overclock before you start it, and then trust the number that heaven tells you, because it seems to be bugged (heaven will say for example 1293 on giga windforce 770 while monitoring software says ~1254 - but the heaven value is correct)
Oh, durr. I had it at 106%.
Would be awkward if the black screen thing is a driver issue because it's preventing me from even getting to the point of seeing artifacts. =D
@SSD: It's not just that it cuts about 50% from the boot time (I just checked my boot from the windows logo popping up and it's ~7-8s) it cuts that amount from every single thing you need to load. Working with photoshop feels nuts, certain games (e.g. PoE or Sims 3) benefit from it highly etc.
I guess if you exclusively care about SC2 or something similar, fine. Coming from both an older system and a HDD I wouldn't want to miss clicking e.g. steam and it just being fully loaded a few seconds later. It basically speeds up all the small things here and there which over time is really, really noticeable.
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Yeah, SSD really helps with overall system performance. It's not just boot time, it's everything, applications, games, multitasking, daily work, because even with swap file disabled almost every application needs read/write access during its work.
The HDD used to be the slowest component in any PC system for the last 20 years. Those times are finally gone now.
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SSD is the only way to score 7.9 in WEI.
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Hi! I'm trying to build a new computer and I really want it to be able to run SC2 at full graphic in at least 1v1 (at least 60fps). But I'm not really into computer and stuff, so I've no idea what I need. And I'll only play SC2 on it, so I don't need a super overkill computer to run all the new games and so. This is how far I've gotton:
INTEL CORE I7 4770K 3.5GHZ 8MB S-1550
ASUS Z87-DELUXE Z87 S-1150 ATX
CORSAIR H60 HYDRO CPU COOLER S-1150/1155/2011/AM3+
GIGABYTE GEFORCE GTX 760 OC 4GB PCI-E DVI/HDMI/DP
CORSAIR 16GB DDR3 VENGEANCE LP PC3-12800 1600MHZ CL9 (2X8GB)
WD BLUE 3.5" 1TB 7200RPM SATA/600 64MB
BE QUIET! PURE POWER L8 600W FIXED
ASUS VX238H-W 23" WIDE TFT LED WHITE
Ok, so I wonder if this will be enough or not. If not, then what do I need? Have I forgotten something important? And is there anything on the list that is overkill for SC2? If yes, what's the other better/cheaper choices? I think everything on list will cost around 1300 euro in my country. It's kinda a bit expensive for me, but I really don't want to risk buying a computer not good enough for SC2 on full graphic. So I picked all the parts that are a bit over the average price. Maybe the sample build for gaming enthusiast is enough for SC2 on extreme settings and it won't fall below 60 fps during a game?
Any other advices around computer for SC2 are also appreciated!
Thanks!
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On September 30 2013 09:54 FroZeN.Broken wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Hi! I'm trying to build a new computer and I really want it to be able to run SC2 at full graphic in at least 1v1 (at least 60fps). But I'm not really into computer and stuff, so I've no idea what I need. And I'll only play SC2 on it, so I don't need a super overkill computer to run all the new games and so. This is how far I've gotton:
INTEL CORE I7 4770K 3.5GHZ 8MB S-1550
ASUS Z87-DELUXE Z87 S-1150 ATX
CORSAIR H60 HYDRO CPU COOLER S-1150/1155/2011/AM3+
GIGABYTE GEFORCE GTX 760 OC 4GB PCI-E DVI/HDMI/DP
CORSAIR 16GB DDR3 VENGEANCE LP PC3-12800 1600MHZ CL9 (2X8GB)
WD BLUE 3.5" 1TB 7200RPM SATA/600 64MB
BE QUIET! PURE POWER L8 600W FIXED
ASUS VX238H-W 23" WIDE TFT LED WHITE
Ok, so I wonder if this will be enough or not. If not, then what do I need? Have I forgotten something important? And is there anything on the list that is overkill for SC2? If yes, what's the other better/cheaper choices? I think everything on list will cost around 1300 euro in my country. It's kinda a bit expensive for me, but I really don't want to risk buying a computer not good enough for SC2 on full graphic. So I picked all the parts that are a bit over the average price. Maybe the sample build for gaming enthusiast is enough for SC2 on extreme settings and it won't fall below 60 fps during a game?
Any other advices around computer for SC2 are also appreciated!
Thanks!
You say you don't need a super overkill computer but all of that is super overkill for Starcraft.
Starcraft II doesn't make use of hyperthreading. A Core i5 4670k would perform identical to that of a 4770k.
A GTX 760 comes with 2GB of VRAM by default so why pay extra for 4GB? Starcraft II doesn't even use 1GB of VRAM. A GTX 650 Ti that is half the price of a 2GB GTX 760 can max the game fyi.
Most games, which includes Starcraft II, can't make use of more than 2GB of RAM. 2x4GB is plenty so why pay more for extra RAM that will just serve as a weak paper weight?
The rest of the components are overkill as well. Where you should be spending money like an SSD and a monitor, you aren't... An SSD and good peripherals makes a much bigger difference than expensive motherboards, expensive crappy enclosed liquid cooling, unused memory, etc.
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On September 30 2013 10:07 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2013 09:54 FroZeN.Broken wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Hi! I'm trying to build a new computer and I really want it to be able to run SC2 at full graphic in at least 1v1 (at least 60fps). But I'm not really into computer and stuff, so I've no idea what I need. And I'll only play SC2 on it, so I don't need a super overkill computer to run all the new games and so. This is how far I've gotton:
INTEL CORE I7 4770K 3.5GHZ 8MB S-1550
ASUS Z87-DELUXE Z87 S-1150 ATX
CORSAIR H60 HYDRO CPU COOLER S-1150/1155/2011/AM3+
GIGABYTE GEFORCE GTX 760 OC 4GB PCI-E DVI/HDMI/DP
CORSAIR 16GB DDR3 VENGEANCE LP PC3-12800 1600MHZ CL9 (2X8GB)
WD BLUE 3.5" 1TB 7200RPM SATA/600 64MB
BE QUIET! PURE POWER L8 600W FIXED
ASUS VX238H-W 23" WIDE TFT LED WHITE
Ok, so I wonder if this will be enough or not. If not, then what do I need? Have I forgotten something important? And is there anything on the list that is overkill for SC2? If yes, what's the other better/cheaper choices? I think everything on list will cost around 1300 euro in my country. It's kinda a bit expensive for me, but I really don't want to risk buying a computer not good enough for SC2 on full graphic. So I picked all the parts that are a bit over the average price. Maybe the sample build for gaming enthusiast is enough for SC2 on extreme settings and it won't fall below 60 fps during a game?
Any other advices around computer for SC2 are also appreciated!
Thanks! You say you don't need a super overkill computer but all of that is super overkill for Starcraft. Starcraft II doesn't make use of hyperthreading. A Core i5 4670k would perform identical to that of a 4770k. A GTX 760 comes with 2GB of VRAM by default so why pay extra for 4GB? Starcraft II doesn't even use 1GB of VRAM. A GTX 650 Ti that is half the price of a 2GB GTX 760 can max the game fyi. Most games, which includes Starcraft II, can't make use of more than 2GB of RAM. 2x4GB is plenty so why pay more for extra RAM that will just serve as a weak paper weight? The rest of the components are overkill as well. Where you should be spending money like an SSD and a monitor, you aren't... An SSD and good peripherals makes a much bigger difference than expensive motherboards, expensive crappy enclosed liquid cooling, unused memory, etc.
Ok thanks. Like I said, had totally no idea what's needed for SC2 ^^ Not even sure what a SSD is, LOL, but I'll look into it. Or maybe there's one you can recommend? And why is monitor important? What should I look for when I pick a monitor? So my motherboard is overkill as well? And cooling system isn't important? I totally thought it was. Is there anything I listed that I should keep? I hope I'm not asking to many questions. I really appreciate if you can help me out with my questions! Thanks anyway!
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On September 30 2013 10:51 FroZeN.Broken wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On September 30 2013 10:07 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2013 09:54 FroZeN.Broken wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Hi! I'm trying to build a new computer and I really want it to be able to run SC2 at full graphic in at least 1v1 (at least 60fps). But I'm not really into computer and stuff, so I've no idea what I need. And I'll only play SC2 on it, so I don't need a super overkill computer to run all the new games and so. This is how far I've gotton:
INTEL CORE I7 4770K 3.5GHZ 8MB S-1550
ASUS Z87-DELUXE Z87 S-1150 ATX
CORSAIR H60 HYDRO CPU COOLER S-1150/1155/2011/AM3+
GIGABYTE GEFORCE GTX 760 OC 4GB PCI-E DVI/HDMI/DP
CORSAIR 16GB DDR3 VENGEANCE LP PC3-12800 1600MHZ CL9 (2X8GB)
WD BLUE 3.5" 1TB 7200RPM SATA/600 64MB
BE QUIET! PURE POWER L8 600W FIXED
ASUS VX238H-W 23" WIDE TFT LED WHITE
Ok, so I wonder if this will be enough or not. If not, then what do I need? Have I forgotten something important? And is there anything on the list that is overkill for SC2? If yes, what's the other better/cheaper choices? I think everything on list will cost around 1300 euro in my country. It's kinda a bit expensive for me, but I really don't want to risk buying a computer not good enough for SC2 on full graphic. So I picked all the parts that are a bit over the average price. Maybe the sample build for gaming enthusiast is enough for SC2 on extreme settings and it won't fall below 60 fps during a game?
Any other advices around computer for SC2 are also appreciated!
Thanks! You say you don't need a super overkill computer but all of that is super overkill for Starcraft. Starcraft II doesn't make use of hyperthreading. A Core i5 4670k would perform identical to that of a 4770k. A GTX 760 comes with 2GB of VRAM by default so why pay extra for 4GB? Starcraft II doesn't even use 1GB of VRAM. A GTX 650 Ti that is half the price of a 2GB GTX 760 can max the game fyi. Most games, which includes Starcraft II, can't make use of more than 2GB of RAM. 2x4GB is plenty so why pay more for extra RAM that will just serve as a weak paper weight? The rest of the components are overkill as well. Where you should be spending money like an SSD and a monitor, you aren't... An SSD and good peripherals makes a much bigger difference than expensive motherboards, expensive crappy enclosed liquid cooling, unused memory, etc. Ok thanks. Like I said, had totally no idea what's needed for SC2 ^^ Not even sure what a SSD is, LOL, but I'll look into it. Or maybe there's one you can recommend? And why is monitor important? What should I look for when I pick a monitor? So my motherboard is overkill as well? And cooling system isn't important? I totally thought it was. Is there anything I listed that I should keep? I hope I'm not asking to many questions. I really appreciate if you can help me out with my questions! Thanks anyway!
There is nothing on your list that you should keep except for the HDD.
Yes, your motherboard is way overkill. A significantly less expensive Gigabyte Z87X-D3H would still be overkill and be able to accomplish everything a novice needs it to.
A good heatsink is important for overclocking, which I assume you are doing since you picked a K suffix processor and a ridiculous motherboard. But enclosed liquid heatsinks such as the Corsair H60 are expensive and generally perform worse or not that much better than tower heatsinks such as the Noctua NH-U12S or Thermalright True Spirit. If you're not overclocking than you can skip buying a heatsink altogether and just use the one provided with the processor. But if you're not overclocking than you'll want to switch to a non-K suffix processor and a H series board to not throw away money. Yes, it is suggested to overclock for Starcraft II if you are OCD about your FPS.
A monitor is important because its the thing you're looking at for hours on end. For monitors, you want to invest in an IPS or 120Hz. You can check the monitor thread for more info.
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On September 30 2013 10:51 FroZeN.Broken wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2013 10:07 skyR wrote:On September 30 2013 09:54 FroZeN.Broken wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Hi! I'm trying to build a new computer and I really want it to be able to run SC2 at full graphic in at least 1v1 (at least 60fps). But I'm not really into computer and stuff, so I've no idea what I need. And I'll only play SC2 on it, so I don't need a super overkill computer to run all the new games and so. This is how far I've gotton:
INTEL CORE I7 4770K 3.5GHZ 8MB S-1550
ASUS Z87-DELUXE Z87 S-1150 ATX
CORSAIR H60 HYDRO CPU COOLER S-1150/1155/2011/AM3+
GIGABYTE GEFORCE GTX 760 OC 4GB PCI-E DVI/HDMI/DP
CORSAIR 16GB DDR3 VENGEANCE LP PC3-12800 1600MHZ CL9 (2X8GB)
WD BLUE 3.5" 1TB 7200RPM SATA/600 64MB
BE QUIET! PURE POWER L8 600W FIXED
ASUS VX238H-W 23" WIDE TFT LED WHITE
Ok, so I wonder if this will be enough or not. If not, then what do I need? Have I forgotten something important? And is there anything on the list that is overkill for SC2? If yes, what's the other better/cheaper choices? I think everything on list will cost around 1300 euro in my country. It's kinda a bit expensive for me, but I really don't want to risk buying a computer not good enough for SC2 on full graphic. So I picked all the parts that are a bit over the average price. Maybe the sample build for gaming enthusiast is enough for SC2 on extreme settings and it won't fall below 60 fps during a game?
Any other advices around computer for SC2 are also appreciated!
Thanks! You say you don't need a super overkill computer but all of that is super overkill for Starcraft. Starcraft II doesn't make use of hyperthreading. A Core i5 4670k would perform identical to that of a 4770k. A GTX 760 comes with 2GB of VRAM by default so why pay extra for 4GB? Starcraft II doesn't even use 1GB of VRAM. A GTX 650 Ti that is half the price of a 2GB GTX 760 can max the game fyi. Most games, which includes Starcraft II, can't make use of more than 2GB of RAM. 2x4GB is plenty so why pay more for extra RAM that will just serve as a weak paper weight? The rest of the components are overkill as well. Where you should be spending money like an SSD and a monitor, you aren't... An SSD and good peripherals makes a much bigger difference than expensive motherboards, expensive crappy enclosed liquid cooling, unused memory, etc. Ok thanks. Like I said, had totally no idea what's needed for SC2 ^^ Not even sure what a SSD is, LOL, but I'll look into it. Or maybe there's one you can recommend? And why is monitor important? What should I look for when I pick a monitor? So my motherboard is overkill as well? And cooling system isn't important? I totally thought it was. Is there anything I listed that I should keep? I hope I'm not asking to many questions. I really appreciate if you can help me out with my questions! Thanks anyway!
SSD:
Insides of HDD and SSD, HDD is on the left, SSD is on the right: http://i.imgur.com/e5bpUqr.png
SSD has a lot less room but is much faster. It especially helps with making the computer react fast whenever you first click on something in a program, open a window the first time, things like that. It cuts down the amount of stutter on that first game of SC2.
People usually like to buy both an SSD and HDD. SSD for Windows and programs and a few of the most played games, the HDD for space for bittorrent and movies and backups, stuff like that. You might want to see if you can skip the HDD.
Monitor:
With the amount of money you are prepared to pay, and you only caring about serious multiplayer, look into the ASUS VG248QE 144 Hz monitor. If you run it at 144 Hz, the delay for things like moving the mouse pointer on screen is as low as it can possibly be on today's monitors.
CPU cooler:
That H60 cooler is simply weak. For the same money, you can look at the strongest, largest air coolers. They will beat the H60, will be more quiet, and the cooler itself will never fail. I guess the H60 is built for flexibility for use in a small PC case. If you want something with water that is stronger than the large air coolers, you will have to start to look at coolers for 100€ and more like H100i.
various top air coolers:
Archon SB-E X2
NH-U14S
PH-TC14PE
Silver Arrow SB-E
a tiny step down:
HR-02 Macho
True Spirit 140
CNPS14X
Mugen 4
Motherboard and CPU:
The things you are interested in, it's mostly happening inside the CPU and Intel's chipset. The board does not have much to do with overclocking success anymore, so you can look at cheap boards without much worry. I only know about Gigabyte's offers. The GA-Z77X-D3H stays very cool when the CPU is overclocked a lot. It uses Intel's networking which seems to be the most solid solution. Its audio should be good.
You don't need the i7. The i5 will behave exactly the same for what you want to do, perhaps better as it stays somewhat cooler when overclocking.
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Ok, thanks alot guys, for spending your time explaining all this to me! I'll be looking into the things you suggested. Is there anything else I can do to improve the SC2 performance? Anything with software? And one last question, how much does a "good" monitor cost? xD
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Not much, once you've disabled physics/reflections and lowered effects seems like you're just stuck. Maybe RAM, maybe not. Honestly, it's pretty much impossible for me to benchmark, i can't pull the same number twice so there's no point trying to show any kind of small performance gap. I'll see if i can fix stutter with 314 and 327 beta driver
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Hi. My old motherboard recently fried so I guess I need a new everything. It's alright though, it was something like a 7 year old motheboard and CPU so I don't mind an upgrade. I have a fairly recent low-end GPU so I won't need that (I believe it's a GeForce 630 or so, it's good enough for me. I might upgrade down the line but it's reaaally not a priority), or HDDs for that matter.
I will need a motherboard, a cpu and ram.
here goes
What is your budget?
250-300 euros
What is your monitor's native resolution?
1376x768 (good enough for me)
What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
dota2, random everything. I don't really care about the settings as long as it works.
What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
Internet browsing, photo editing, maybe some video editing
Do you intend to overclock?
no
Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
no
Do you need an operating system?
no
Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
no
If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
I have grown to like Intel stuff
What country will you be buying your parts in?
France
If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.
I don't know, last time I bought stuff was from a local store, so I would really appreciate advice on where to buy stuff in France. I guess amazon ? Are there others ?
I thought something along the lines of
MSI H81M-E33 Motherboard Intel Micro ATX Socket 1150 57€
Intel Haswell Processeur Core i5-4430 / 3.00 GHz 4 coeurs Socket-LGA1150 6 Mo 167€
Corsair CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 Mémoire RAM DDR3 1600 8Go COR CL9 Vengeance 70€
I somewhat know what I'm doing but my knowledge of the the parts and everything is absolutely out of date, which is why I'm asking.
I guess the CPU is a bit overkill compared to the rest of my stuff but I don't mind that. I know video editing/streamind requires a lot of processing power and I might do those. Of course if you guys think a cheaper CPU would fit my needs without losing too much power, I'd be happy to hear your thoughts.
I'm really not sure about the motherboard or the ram.
Thanks for the help, really appreciate it.
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On September 30 2013 19:21 tyr wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Hi. My old motherboard recently fried so I guess I need a new everything. It's alright though, it was something like a 7 year old motheboard and CPU so I don't mind an upgrade. I have a fairly recent low-end GPU so I won't need that (I believe it's a GeForce 630 or so, it's good enough for me. I might upgrade down the line but it's reaaally not a priority), or HDDs for that matter. I will need a motherboard, a cpu and ram. here goes What is your budget?250-300 euros What is your monitor's native resolution?1376x768 (good enough for me) What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?dota2, random everything. I don't really care about the settings as long as it works. What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?Internet browsing, photo editing, maybe some video editing Do you intend to overclock?no Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?no Do you need an operating system?no Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?no If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.I have grown to like Intel stuff What country will you be buying your parts in?France If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.I don't know, last time I bought stuff was from a local store, so I would really appreciate advice on where to buy stuff in France. I guess amazon ? Are there others ? I thought something along the lines of MSI H81M-E33 Motherboard Intel Micro ATX Socket 1150 57€ Intel Haswell Processeur Core i5-4430 / 3.00 GHz 4 coeurs Socket-LGA1150 6 Mo 167€ Corsair CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 Mémoire RAM DDR3 1600 8Go COR CL9 Vengeance 70€ I somewhat know what I'm doing but my knowledge of the the parts and everything is absolutely out of date, which is why I'm asking. I guess the CPU is a bit overkill compared to the rest of my stuff but I don't mind that. I know video editing/streamind requires a lot of processing power and I might do those. Of course if you guys think a cheaper CPU would fit my needs without losing too much power, I'd be happy to hear your thoughts. I'm really not sure about the motherboard or the ram. Thanks for the help, really appreciate it.
If your focus isn't on playing sc2 and other strategy games then have a look at getting an AMD fx6300. 6300 and an AM3+ mobo should set you back less than 200 euros.
If you are playing strategy games then what you picked is good, but try stretch to a 4570, its well worth the money.
RAM looks good, any 2x4gb cl9 1600mhz is the most cost efficient choice.
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Hello~~~ my current pc is broke atm and since i have to replace some parts regardless, i want to seek an advice for decent upgrade for buck
What is your budget?
250~300 (!!! only for motherboard, CPU and memory !!!) - (current GPU: ATI 6870; PSU: 850W)
What is your monitor's native solution?
1920 X 1200
What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
Starcraft II, diablo III on maxed out @ 1920 X1200
What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
office use in dual monitor set up, streaming
Do you intend to overclock?
no
Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
no
Do you need an operating system?
no
Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
no
If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
no specific brand perferences
What country will you be buying your parts in?
EU; Austria
If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.
amazon
thx a lot in advance!
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I am planning to build a Hackintosh system and want to dualboot Windows. This will be my first time building and assembling a system, and it feels like quite the quest.
As OSX requires specific compatible components, my options are somewhat limited. The build I put together is an assembly from this Hackintosh community. I'm unsure if people here are familiar with building Hackintosh systems, but for the sake of exposing my build to multiple opinions I hope someone could take a look at the components and provide some critique.
What is your budget?
Around €1000
What is your monitor's native resolution?
1920×1080
What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
StarCraft 2, World of Warcraft, League of Legends, DotA2 - High to Ultra settings. Preferably the system would last a couple of years, being able to play new online multiplayer releases on Medium to High settings.
What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
Heavy Creative Suite usage (PS, ID, Ill), coding, occasional short film editing. Might consider streaming.
Do you intend to overclock?
Not familiar with it, so no.
Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
No.
Do you need an operating system?
No.
Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
No.
If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
Except for the specific components necessary to run OS X, none.
What country will you be buying your parts in?
The Netherlands
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+ Show Spoiler [Build so far] +CPU Intel Core i5 4670K Boxed € 198,90 MOBO Gigabyte GA-Z87MX-D3H € 118,90 GPU EVGA GeForce GTX 670 FTW SIG2 € 319,- HDD Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 ST1000DM003, 1TB € 53,50 CASE Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 € 35,50 WIFI CARD TP-Link TL-WDN4800 € 33,32 RAM Corsair Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 € 67,95 PSU Corsair CX500M € 53,89 SSD Sandisk Extreme 120GB € 96,38 € 977,34
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That's a CPU and board that can be overclocked. Choose a CPU without "k" at the end. Choose a board with H87 chipset.
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On September 30 2013 20:28 Ropid wrote:
That's a CPU and board that can be overclocked. Choose a CPU without "k" at the end. Choose a board with H87 chipset.
From what I've read most boards require some DSDT editing to provide proper power management when running OS X – the Z87 chipsets apparently do not require this customizing, and are therefore (at least for me as a newb) worth the extra money. Would it be possible to put a i5 4670 on it? Or would you rather recommend to get the K and OC if I'm going for that MOBO regardless? (I would be up for it if it's easy enough, but am a little scared as I've never done it before).
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On September 30 2013 21:27 Metak wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2013 20:28 Ropid wrote:
That's a CPU and board that can be overclocked. Choose a CPU without "k" at the end. Choose a board with H87 chipset. From what I've read most boards require some DSDT editing to provide proper power management when running OS X – the Z87 chipsets apparently do not require this customizing, and are therefore (at least for me as a newb) worth the extra money. Would it be possible to put a i5 4670 on it? Or would you rather recommend to get the K and OC if I'm going for that MOBO regardless? (I would be up for it if it's easy enough, but am a little scared as I've never done it before).
You want a Gygabite Motherboard, since Apple uses them or has used them in the past they are pretty much fully compatible with little to no tweaking. Here are a couple of the newest tested examples:
GA-Z87X-D3H, GA-Z87-HD3, GA-H87-D3H, GA-Z87X-OC Force, GA-Z87X-OC, GA-Z87X-UD5H, GA-Z87X-UD3H.
Those are the most recent Mobos.
Do you want your components to be the most actual in the market? or can you seetle for last years setups? You can save a lot and get a powerhouse if you look at last year Hackintosh builds.
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Could Any one recommend a H87 Motherboard, at least 6 S-ata ports and USB 2.0, also schould ahve native PS2 port. Also gigabit ethernet would be nice, since i use a Siberia with external soundcard i dont care about the sound chip. Also 4 Ram slots up to 32gb...
Should have 2 sockets for Graphicscards ( non SLI, but 2 PCI-E graphiccards for PHYS-X and Quad monitor setup.)
Prefereably Asus or Gigabyte in ATX factor.
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