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On August 30 2014 10:09 Danglars wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Love this thread, always consult for quick reference when I'm doing upgrades. This time I'm building a budget PC for the office, and was looking at the basic build On August 23 2013 12:56 skyR wrote: I noticed the mobo is out of stock and it has a newer version out for roughly the same price. Memory's 15$ more expensive, HDD looks about the same with a diff link. Since this is business, the low-end R7 260X from budget gamer recommendation for $114 before rebate looked ok. At this moment, the PC is dedicated nongaming since business picked up qq and I have a home PC from '09 that can run SC2 1080P low no problem. It's just video gotomeeting, youtube, and twitch. I know even the Terran Help Me Thread and 4M guide gets outdated without regular time-consuming updates. Any updates or thoughts on the super-budget pc build for today -- the out of stock mobo, more expensive 2x4gb memory sticks ( gotta be sweeter somewhere else USA), vid card, or other aspects of the budget gamer build? Every dollar spent here delays upgrading a 5-year-old dedicated gaming pc, but my work pc is a dead 2005 antique and priority.
It explicitly states that the list of builds are just outlines.
Anyways:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: AMD A8-5600K 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A78M-HD+ Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($52.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($36.90 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $304.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-29 21:55 EDT-0400
Only real difference between a A8 and A10 (when talking about 5xxx and 6xxx parts) is that the A10 has more SPs in the GPU part, 384 vs 256. But that doesn't matter in an office PC. Neither does 8GB of RAM. The SSD will make it feel spiffy though...
HA! Post #1700.
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On August 30 2014 10:09 Danglars wrote:Love this thread, always consult for quick reference when I'm doing upgrades. This time I'm building a budget PC for the office, and was looking at the basic build I noticed the mobo is out of stock and it has a newer version out for roughly the same price. Memory's 15$ more expensive, HDD looks about the same with a diff link. Since this is business, the low-end R7 260X from budget gamer recommendation for $114 before rebate looked ok. At this moment, the PC is dedicated nongaming since business picked up qq and I have a home PC from '09 that can run SC2 1080P low no problem. It's just video gotomeeting, youtube, and twitch. I know even the Terran Help Me Thread and 4M guide gets outdated without regular time-consuming updates. Any updates or thoughts on the super-budget pc build for today -- the out of stock mobo, more expensive 2x4gb memory sticks ( gotta be sweeter somewhere else USA), vid card, or other aspects of the budget gamer build? Every dollar spent here delays upgrading a 5-year-old dedicated gaming pc, but my work pc is a dead 2005 antique and priority.
This should be all you really need. There's a really good deal on Pentium G3258 + Gigabyte GA-H81M-DS2V right now.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H81M-DS2V Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($49.69 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($43.20 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($50.10 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($25.00 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $247.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-29 22:02 EDT-0400
Add another $100ish for Windows if you need it. The case is obviously subjective, so get whatever you want there, and it's up to you if you want an SSD or HDD.
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On August 30 2014 11:00 iTzSnypah wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2014 10:09 Danglars wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Love this thread, always consult for quick reference when I'm doing upgrades. This time I'm building a budget PC for the office, and was looking at the basic build On August 23 2013 12:56 skyR wrote: I noticed the mobo is out of stock and it has a newer version out for roughly the same price. Memory's 15$ more expensive, HDD looks about the same with a diff link. Since this is business, the low-end R7 260X from budget gamer recommendation for $114 before rebate looked ok. At this moment, the PC is dedicated nongaming since business picked up qq and I have a home PC from '09 that can run SC2 1080P low no problem. It's just video gotomeeting, youtube, and twitch. I know even the Terran Help Me Thread and 4M guide gets outdated without regular time-consuming updates. Any updates or thoughts on the super-budget pc build for today -- the out of stock mobo, more expensive 2x4gb memory sticks ( gotta be sweeter somewhere else USA), vid card, or other aspects of the budget gamer build? Every dollar spent here delays upgrading a 5-year-old dedicated gaming pc, but my work pc is a dead 2005 antique and priority. It explicitly states that the list of builds are just outlines. It's just generic questions on budget questions since OP is outdated on MoBo. I'm not knockin generic guides, just petitioning expertise from those very intouch with current deals and the hardware junkies side of things. Granted, these are gamer builds and I'm doing my first office PC build in my life (built several gaming rigs for others). I gather that you grasp my intent, as cross-purpose to the thread as it is.
Nice finds.
I've never bought a MoBo-CPU that functions with integrated graphics. Thus far in life I've only bought dedicated PCIe graphics cards. MoBo shows "Supported only by CPU with integrated graphic" and CPU (in combo) says jack. The combo work fine for business PC with a DVI connector?
On August 30 2014 11:06 z0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2014 10:09 Danglars wrote:Love this thread, always consult for quick reference when I'm doing upgrades. This time I'm building a budget PC for the office, and was looking at the basic build On August 23 2013 12:56 skyR wrote: I noticed the mobo is out of stock and it has a newer version out for roughly the same price. Memory's 15$ more expensive, HDD looks about the same with a diff link. Since this is business, the low-end R7 260X from budget gamer recommendation for $114 before rebate looked ok. At this moment, the PC is dedicated nongaming since business picked up qq and I have a home PC from '09 that can run SC2 1080P low no problem. It's just video gotomeeting, youtube, and twitch. I know even the Terran Help Me Thread and 4M guide gets outdated without regular time-consuming updates. Any updates or thoughts on the super-budget pc build for today -- the out of stock mobo, more expensive 2x4gb memory sticks ( gotta be sweeter somewhere else USA), vid card, or other aspects of the budget gamer build? Every dollar spent here delays upgrading a 5-year-old dedicated gaming pc, but my work pc is a dead 2005 antique and priority. This should be all you really need. There's a really good deal on Pentium G3258 + Gigabyte GA-H81M-DS2V right now. PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchantCPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($69.99 @ Newegg) Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H81M-DS2V Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($49.69 @ Newegg) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($43.20 @ Newegg) Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($50.10 @ Amazon) Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Micro Center) Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($25.00 @ Newegg) Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC) Total: $247.95 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when availableGenerated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-29 22:02 EDT-0400Add another $100ish for Windows if you need it. The case is obviously subjective, so get whatever you want there, and it's up to you if you want an SSD or HDD. Windows is definitely a new purchase for me, I'm out of licenses and can't Linux+Wine this one up. Thanks for the input!
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On August 30 2014 12:44 Danglars wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2014 11:00 iTzSnypah wrote:On August 30 2014 10:09 Danglars wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Love this thread, always consult for quick reference when I'm doing upgrades. This time I'm building a budget PC for the office, and was looking at the basic build On August 23 2013 12:56 skyR wrote: I noticed the mobo is out of stock and it has a newer version out for roughly the same price. Memory's 15$ more expensive, HDD looks about the same with a diff link. Since this is business, the low-end R7 260X from budget gamer recommendation for $114 before rebate looked ok. At this moment, the PC is dedicated nongaming since business picked up qq and I have a home PC from '09 that can run SC2 1080P low no problem. It's just video gotomeeting, youtube, and twitch. I know even the Terran Help Me Thread and 4M guide gets outdated without regular time-consuming updates. Any updates or thoughts on the super-budget pc build for today -- the out of stock mobo, more expensive 2x4gb memory sticks ( gotta be sweeter somewhere else USA), vid card, or other aspects of the budget gamer build? Every dollar spent here delays upgrading a 5-year-old dedicated gaming pc, but my work pc is a dead 2005 antique and priority. It explicitly states that the list of builds are just outlines. It's just generic questions on budget questions since OP is outdated on MoBo. I'm not knockin generic guides, just petitioning expertise from those very intouch with current deals and the hardware junkies side of things. Granted, these are gamer builds and I'm doing my first office PC build in my life (built several gaming rigs for others). I gather that you grasp my intent, as cross-purpose to the thread as it is. Nice finds. I've never bought a MoBo-CPU that functions with integrated graphics. Thus far in life I've only bought dedicated PCIe graphics cards. MoBo shows "Supported only by CPU with integrated graphic" and CPU (in combo) says jack. The combo work fine for business PC with a DVI connector? Show nested quote +On August 30 2014 11:06 z0rz wrote:On August 30 2014 10:09 Danglars wrote:Love this thread, always consult for quick reference when I'm doing upgrades. This time I'm building a budget PC for the office, and was looking at the basic build On August 23 2013 12:56 skyR wrote: I noticed the mobo is out of stock and it has a newer version out for roughly the same price. Memory's 15$ more expensive, HDD looks about the same with a diff link. Since this is business, the low-end R7 260X from budget gamer recommendation for $114 before rebate looked ok. At this moment, the PC is dedicated nongaming since business picked up qq and I have a home PC from '09 that can run SC2 1080P low no problem. It's just video gotomeeting, youtube, and twitch. I know even the Terran Help Me Thread and 4M guide gets outdated without regular time-consuming updates. Any updates or thoughts on the super-budget pc build for today -- the out of stock mobo, more expensive 2x4gb memory sticks ( gotta be sweeter somewhere else USA), vid card, or other aspects of the budget gamer build? Every dollar spent here delays upgrading a 5-year-old dedicated gaming pc, but my work pc is a dead 2005 antique and priority. This should be all you really need. There's a really good deal on Pentium G3258 + Gigabyte GA-H81M-DS2V right now. PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchantCPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($69.99 @ Newegg) Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H81M-DS2V Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($49.69 @ Newegg) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($43.20 @ Newegg) Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($50.10 @ Amazon) Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Micro Center) Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($25.00 @ Newegg) Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC) Total: $247.95 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when availableGenerated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-29 22:02 EDT-0400Add another $100ish for Windows if you need it. The case is obviously subjective, so get whatever you want there, and it's up to you if you want an SSD or HDD. Windows is definitely a new purchase for me, I'm out of licenses and can't Linux+Wine this one up. Thanks for the input!
You can get a cheap Windows license at reddit.com/r/softwareswap, they mostly go for like $14
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On August 31 2014 01:09 Thalandros wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2014 12:44 Danglars wrote:On August 30 2014 11:00 iTzSnypah wrote:On August 30 2014 10:09 Danglars wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Love this thread, always consult for quick reference when I'm doing upgrades. This time I'm building a budget PC for the office, and was looking at the basic build On August 23 2013 12:56 skyR wrote: I noticed the mobo is out of stock and it has a newer version out for roughly the same price. Memory's 15$ more expensive, HDD looks about the same with a diff link. Since this is business, the low-end R7 260X from budget gamer recommendation for $114 before rebate looked ok. At this moment, the PC is dedicated nongaming since business picked up qq and I have a home PC from '09 that can run SC2 1080P low no problem. It's just video gotomeeting, youtube, and twitch. I know even the Terran Help Me Thread and 4M guide gets outdated without regular time-consuming updates. Any updates or thoughts on the super-budget pc build for today -- the out of stock mobo, more expensive 2x4gb memory sticks ( gotta be sweeter somewhere else USA), vid card, or other aspects of the budget gamer build? Every dollar spent here delays upgrading a 5-year-old dedicated gaming pc, but my work pc is a dead 2005 antique and priority. It explicitly states that the list of builds are just outlines. It's just generic questions on budget questions since OP is outdated on MoBo. I'm not knockin generic guides, just petitioning expertise from those very intouch with current deals and the hardware junkies side of things. Granted, these are gamer builds and I'm doing my first office PC build in my life (built several gaming rigs for others). I gather that you grasp my intent, as cross-purpose to the thread as it is. Nice finds. I've never bought a MoBo-CPU that functions with integrated graphics. Thus far in life I've only bought dedicated PCIe graphics cards. MoBo shows "Supported only by CPU with integrated graphic" and CPU (in combo) says jack. The combo work fine for business PC with a DVI connector? On August 30 2014 11:06 z0rz wrote:On August 30 2014 10:09 Danglars wrote:Love this thread, always consult for quick reference when I'm doing upgrades. This time I'm building a budget PC for the office, and was looking at the basic build On August 23 2013 12:56 skyR wrote: I noticed the mobo is out of stock and it has a newer version out for roughly the same price. Memory's 15$ more expensive, HDD looks about the same with a diff link. Since this is business, the low-end R7 260X from budget gamer recommendation for $114 before rebate looked ok. At this moment, the PC is dedicated nongaming since business picked up qq and I have a home PC from '09 that can run SC2 1080P low no problem. It's just video gotomeeting, youtube, and twitch. I know even the Terran Help Me Thread and 4M guide gets outdated without regular time-consuming updates. Any updates or thoughts on the super-budget pc build for today -- the out of stock mobo, more expensive 2x4gb memory sticks ( gotta be sweeter somewhere else USA), vid card, or other aspects of the budget gamer build? Every dollar spent here delays upgrading a 5-year-old dedicated gaming pc, but my work pc is a dead 2005 antique and priority. This should be all you really need. There's a really good deal on Pentium G3258 + Gigabyte GA-H81M-DS2V right now. PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchantCPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($69.99 @ Newegg) Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H81M-DS2V Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($49.69 @ Newegg) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($43.20 @ Newegg) Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($50.10 @ Amazon) Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Micro Center) Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($25.00 @ Newegg) Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC) Total: $247.95 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when availableGenerated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-29 22:02 EDT-0400Add another $100ish for Windows if you need it. The case is obviously subjective, so get whatever you want there, and it's up to you if you want an SSD or HDD. Windows is definitely a new purchase for me, I'm out of licenses and can't Linux+Wine this one up. Thanks for the input! You can get a cheap Windows license at reddit.com/r/softwareswap, they mostly go for like $14
Microsoft software has been banned from /r/softwareswap. The cheapest way to get a copy at the moment is most likely to be a student at a Dreamspark-participating school.
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YouTube, Twitch, video conferencing? Pretty much anything modern and not super-low-powerw, even the lowest end stuff, should be okay.
Here's a deal on a $225 system (Celeron 1017U, i.e. dual core, low-power Ivy Bridge 1.6 GHz so not thaaat bad) including OS:
http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/desktops/lenovo/q-series/q190
Use a cheapo passive HDMI -> DVI converter if necessary.
Other systems at a higher price would be a little more powerful, but as skyR pointed out earlier, if you need a Windows license, going part-by-part is often more expensive in this price range.
For $335, with a Haswell dual core at 2.8 GHz (this for sure being plenty for your uses):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883156229
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Hello!
I am considering getting me a desktop PC for gaming. I was looking at this build -
However, I am in Europe (Netherlands) and it seems some of the components are not available where I look, so I changed them around a bit.
Asrock H97 Pro4
Intel Core i5-4690
G.Skill 8GB DDR3-1600 (Ares CL8)
ASUS PCI-E N GeForce GTX 760 DirectCU II OC 2GB
Crucial MX100, 128GB
Western Digital Blue 1TB
Seasonic G-450 (SS-450RM)
Fractal Design Core 3000 USB 3.0
I highlighted the different parts. I went for the Ares memory (2x4GB) as it appears to be the only one in the shop having CL8 in this price category. The disks I swapped around as I believe 128GB is enough for the system (got 128GB SSD in my laptop) and I'd prefer more storage. The power supply .. Rosewill I haven't seen at all, so I went for Seasonic. There were 2 of them with the same name, but in the specifications this one had the SS-450RM tag. I am not sure if that's preferable or not. The other one was slightly cheaper and was only marked as Seasonic G450.
Can you please comment on any flaws I might have overlooked? Thanks.
EDIT -
I am also considering replacing the motherboard for Gigabyte GA-Z97X-Gaming 5. That'd be more price-y but should be good for any future upgrades.
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On August 31 2014 02:14 Zeke50100 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2014 01:09 Thalandros wrote:On August 30 2014 12:44 Danglars wrote:On August 30 2014 11:00 iTzSnypah wrote:On August 30 2014 10:09 Danglars wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Love this thread, always consult for quick reference when I'm doing upgrades. This time I'm building a budget PC for the office, and was looking at the basic build On August 23 2013 12:56 skyR wrote: I noticed the mobo is out of stock and it has a newer version out for roughly the same price. Memory's 15$ more expensive, HDD looks about the same with a diff link. Since this is business, the low-end R7 260X from budget gamer recommendation for $114 before rebate looked ok. At this moment, the PC is dedicated nongaming since business picked up qq and I have a home PC from '09 that can run SC2 1080P low no problem. It's just video gotomeeting, youtube, and twitch. I know even the Terran Help Me Thread and 4M guide gets outdated without regular time-consuming updates. Any updates or thoughts on the super-budget pc build for today -- the out of stock mobo, more expensive 2x4gb memory sticks ( gotta be sweeter somewhere else USA), vid card, or other aspects of the budget gamer build? Every dollar spent here delays upgrading a 5-year-old dedicated gaming pc, but my work pc is a dead 2005 antique and priority. It explicitly states that the list of builds are just outlines. It's just generic questions on budget questions since OP is outdated on MoBo. I'm not knockin generic guides, just petitioning expertise from those very intouch with current deals and the hardware junkies side of things. Granted, these are gamer builds and I'm doing my first office PC build in my life (built several gaming rigs for others). I gather that you grasp my intent, as cross-purpose to the thread as it is. Nice finds. I've never bought a MoBo-CPU that functions with integrated graphics. Thus far in life I've only bought dedicated PCIe graphics cards. MoBo shows "Supported only by CPU with integrated graphic" and CPU (in combo) says jack. The combo work fine for business PC with a DVI connector? On August 30 2014 11:06 z0rz wrote:On August 30 2014 10:09 Danglars wrote:Love this thread, always consult for quick reference when I'm doing upgrades. This time I'm building a budget PC for the office, and was looking at the basic build On August 23 2013 12:56 skyR wrote: I noticed the mobo is out of stock and it has a newer version out for roughly the same price. Memory's 15$ more expensive, HDD looks about the same with a diff link. Since this is business, the low-end R7 260X from budget gamer recommendation for $114 before rebate looked ok. At this moment, the PC is dedicated nongaming since business picked up qq and I have a home PC from '09 that can run SC2 1080P low no problem. It's just video gotomeeting, youtube, and twitch. I know even the Terran Help Me Thread and 4M guide gets outdated without regular time-consuming updates. Any updates or thoughts on the super-budget pc build for today -- the out of stock mobo, more expensive 2x4gb memory sticks ( gotta be sweeter somewhere else USA), vid card, or other aspects of the budget gamer build? Every dollar spent here delays upgrading a 5-year-old dedicated gaming pc, but my work pc is a dead 2005 antique and priority. This should be all you really need. There's a really good deal on Pentium G3258 + Gigabyte GA-H81M-DS2V right now. PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchantCPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($69.99 @ Newegg) Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H81M-DS2V Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($49.69 @ Newegg) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($43.20 @ Newegg) Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($50.10 @ Amazon) Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Micro Center) Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($25.00 @ Newegg) Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC) Total: $247.95 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when availableGenerated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-29 22:02 EDT-0400Add another $100ish for Windows if you need it. The case is obviously subjective, so get whatever you want there, and it's up to you if you want an SSD or HDD. Windows is definitely a new purchase for me, I'm out of licenses and can't Linux+Wine this one up. Thanks for the input! You can get a cheap Windows license at reddit.com/r/softwareswap, they mostly go for like $14 Microsoft software has been banned from /r/softwareswap. The cheapest way to get a copy at the moment is most likely to be a student at a Dreamspark-participating school.
Wow, really? 2 weeks ago they were still there. :O A lot of illegal key selling?
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EDIT -
I am also considering replacing the motherboard for Gigabyte GA-Z97X-Gaming 5. That'd be more price-y but should be good for any future upgrades.
What would you gain from that?
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A better motherboard overall that I won't need to upgrade for a while, while being able to upgrade the rest of the hardware. SLI ready, supports higher RAM speeds, etc.
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On August 31 2014 07:12 freestalker wrote:
A better motherboard overall that I won't need to upgrade for a while, while being able to upgrade the rest of the hardware. SLI ready, supports higher RAM speeds, etc.
You have the wrong idea because any new CPU will require a completely new motherboard and completely new memory (DDR4).
The newer video cards will work the same on a $50, $70, $100, or $500 motherboard, there would be no difference in performance.
You'd need a 650w power supply for SLI, which you don't have in your build so not sure how this is relevant?
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Higher RAM speeds also matter waaaaaay less than etc cpu overclocking. You can get sli without z97.. can't you? As said though, you need a good 650w psu, maybe some 550w psu's that have the right connector for it for SLI. I was surprised to find that i can't SLI on my golden green hx550 because it only has like two 6+2 pins, would have to use multiple adaptors for SLI on even low power cards like 760 (half as much power draw as flagships)
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SLI requires two x8 slots and I don't believe any H97 boards are capable of this.
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Well, that's why I am asking here. The idea behind it was to get a motherboard that can handle more than I actually use it for right now, so that I don't have to get another one for a while if I want to upgrade some other parts.
Yes, I am aware that for SLI I'd need a more powerful power supply. In addition to a SLI enabled motherboard 
I might be completely wrong and what I am suggesting might make sense to me but might not be right. That's exactly why I post in this thread. So if you have any tips or ideas, let me know. Are you saying I should stick to Asrock H97 and once I decide to upgrade in the future, get a new motherboard? I see the cost-efficiency of this build as a whole, it just feels like the next part of any future upgrade will be the motherboard as it is pushed to the limit right now. On the other hand, I don't plan to upgrade in a year or two.
EDIT - the thing with the SLI (in my thinking) also is - if I need to upgrade in the future, I might just as well add a 2nd GPU + PSU.. While improving performance and without the need to throw out my old GPU.
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If you want to futureproof, spend money on the case, power supply, and monitors because these are the components that you can use from build to build regardless if there are improvements or innovations to such components. If you think you may SLI down the road, just buy a 650w power supply right now. It makes no sense to buy a 450w power supply just to replace it in two years with a 650w power supply.
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Are you saying I should stick to Asrock H97 and once I decide to upgrade in the future, get a new motherboard?
On the other hand, I don't plan to upgrade in a year or two.
It's quite hard, because sli760 won't be too great in 3 years. A single, modern GPU would be much better than a pair of 760's; A single 290/780 is already preferred. Meanwhile for CPU upgrade, you'd have to change motherboard anyway.
It'd be nice to be able to add a second GPU, but added cost on PSU, motherboard, extra considerations on case for added heat output etc; it's quite a lot.
I'l agree on case, a good case like an air540 you can just use for ages. I used my last monitor for about 7 years and it's still going fine, good PSU's last a very long time.
Out of all tech it's probably GPU's that age fastest right now; If you bought a quad core intel CPU in 2009 and overclocked, you still have a CPU that wins and loses vs AMD's best.
If you bought a graphics card in 2009 you have something that can't beat a 750ti and uses 4x as much power.
We're having pretty long generational jumps, but one generation between 580 and 780ti was massive. Way over 2x performance. That just doesn't really happen on CPU's right now
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Hmm! Thank you! I'll take that into consideration. Now about the PSU. You speak about a 'good' PSU. Is Seasonic G-650 considered a 'good' one? There is currently a discount on it, but if it is supposed to die before I do an upgrade, then there's no real reason to go for it if the 450 would be more efficient.
Thanks a lot again
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Why would it die? Even if it dies before you do an upgrade, you'd just RMA it. Seasonic G 650 has a five year warranty and most other good units also carry a five year warranty. Some of the better units carry a seven or even ten year warranty. A motherboard (the majority of which has a three year warranty) is much more likely to malfunction before a power supply.
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A think a strong modern Haswell should last you a good couple years either way.
However looking for a GTX 760 SLI down the line doesn't seem that great. It would be the equivalent, I guess, of getting a used GTX 560 today, to SLI with one you already have.
I'm pulling numbers out of no-where, but I'd be more than willing to bet that a GTX 560 SLI is terrible compared to GTX 760 or GTX 770. Buying a second GTX 560 on e-bay will probably be cheaper than just getting a new, good GPU, I guess? However the money you're saving is spent on getting SLI support which is expensive in itself.
I mean, even today, GTX 760 SLI kinda sucks? Sure it's got horsepower but it doesn't have the memory / power-efficiency of a single, more powerful card. For what it costs, might as well get a single card, which is preferable to Crossfire / SLI if you can help it.
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Humm.. So I think I have this figured out and the last point is the case.
I am considering the following -
Corsair Carbide Air 540 (concerns about the noise and no bottom dust filter. I found out they sell custom-made one in demciflex and the fans can be replaced for quiet ones. I like the case though.)
Fractal Design Arc Midi 2R (this seems quite solid overall)
and Corsair 550D/650D - here I am not sure if I really want that super quiet 550 or if I really need the 650
What I am looking for is - dust proof, average/lower noise, solid structure (no resonance), easy to access/work with.. And a case that would last for a long time with no replacements needed.
I guess the air 540 would be cool with the vents/filter mod and would satisfy everything.
The Arc Midi R2 appears to cover a lot of the concerns, unless I miss something, but I am not sure about its 'futureproofing'.
I have mixed feelings about the 550D/650D and am wondering if they're delivering something the other two don't (550D is obviously more quiet).
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