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kaykaykay
Singapore637 Posts
i'm not sure if it beats MSI's twin frozr series, but you should base your decision on which vendor gives you better ease of returning the product during the warranty period. I could be wrong though, the regulars here like skyR, Cyro, Myrmidon would know better. | ||
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felisconcolori
United States6168 Posts
All of the above aside, though... after the RMA (and they shipped me the same card back, I've compared serials on the board) the card runs fine. Fans on the card never top 30% speed and I have yet to find something that bottlenecks the card. I'm not saying it's going to outperform any other card, but it does the job pretty well I've found. Only potential drawback is if you can push the card up to where the fans are running 100%, it is a little loud. (I've set it that high in Catalyst Control Center just to check.) It's what the regs suggested to me for my build, which is a little odd considering the normal trend towards nVidia cards, but at the time it was a solid suggestion and it's been (aside from that one problem above) a decent card. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20341 Posts
670 vs 680 7950 vs 7970 280 vs 280x ^always the same, the first card has 1/8'th of the cores disabled but still has full memory resources etc and is usually significantly stronger value | ||
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rckY
Germany116 Posts
On August 27 2014 07:40 Cyro wrote: If you can get a 280 with good cooler they're usually well priced 670 vs 680 7950 vs 7970 280 vs 280x ^always the same, the first card has 1/8'th of the cores disabled but still has full memory resources etc and is usually significantly stronger value This is actually a great advice! I think ill go with the MSI or GIGABYTE R9 280 then since it's only 180€ here and from the reviews i've read so far seems to go only with a 10% disadvantage over the 280X. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
On August 27 2014 21:30 rckY wrote: This is actually a great advice! I think ill go with the MSI or GIGABYTE R9 280 then since it's only 180€ here and from the reviews i've read so far seems to go only with a 10% disadvantage over the 280X. With a budget such as yours, I would seriously consider trying to step up to the R9 290. It's also seriously good cost-efficiency and it's quite powerful, much more so than a 280X. To save money, I would look at the motherboard (H81 board instead of H97) and a cheaper case. You're not overclocking your CPU. E: or do you really need the wifi expansion card? hmm i still think fitting a big card into your rig is doable. under 20% of the budget going to the GPU for a gaming rig isn't so great imo, however, this is just me. ^^ | ||
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rckY
Germany116 Posts
On August 27 2014 21:40 Incognoto wrote: With a budget such as yours, I would seriously consider trying to step up to the R9 290. It's also seriously good cost-efficiency and it's quite powerful, much more so than a 280X. To save money, I would look at the motherboard (H81 board instead of H97) and a cheaper case. You're not overclocking your CPU. Does the 290 outperfom the 280X so hard that it is worth the 100€ gap between them? I will go with the H81 from Asrock and also will change the casing to a Lian Li PC-6. I really like the look of that case. Going to order this weekend i guess  . | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20341 Posts
On August 28 2014 03:04 rckY wrote: Does the 290 outperfom the 280X so hard that it is worth the 100€ gap between them? I will go with the H81 from Asrock and also will change the casing to a Lian Li PC-6. I really like the look of that case. Going to order this weekend i guess .The gap between 280x/7970 and 290 is similar to 770 vs 780 - and the answer AFAIK is generally yes if you'll use them, particularly if you're overclocking. A reference 290 at "up to 955mhz" is nothing special, but a decently cooled one running at ~1150-1250 or whatever is achievable without too much compromise is really sweet | ||
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Craton
United States17294 Posts
Everything powers up as expected. The power supply passes my PSU tester without issue. Still no beep codes and no video. CPU is explicitly listed as supported by the mobo. Now what? | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20341 Posts
Also, basic DDR4 seems not much more expensive than ddr3 and there's good talk of performance with ~1.4v (instead of ~1.2v) low cas latencies at ~2666 for entry level kits | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
On August 28 2014 10:26 Craton wrote: My new motherboard arrived today which I installed... to the tune of no change in working status. Everything powers up as expected. The power supply passes my PSU tester without issue. Still no beep codes and no video. CPU is explicitly listed as supported by the mobo. Now what? If it's the RAM, it should still beep, right? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8426/the-intel-haswell-e-cpu-review-core-i7-5960x-i7-5930k-i7-5820k-tested hex core for $400.. sex. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20341 Posts
 the good boards cost more than that though ![[image loading]](http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph8426/66933.png) That's quite some performance and i don't doubt now that there will be plenty of peeps on OCN running them at 4.5-4.7, asus even called 4.5@1.3 "average" Honestly if i wasn't live encoding.. I'd probably just buy a rack of pentiums, $500 for like 5 cpu's+mobo's+stock coolers with 4GB of RAM each and run them at like 1.25vcore, seems the most cost effective option. Not very useful for live encoding 1080p60 though :D 6-core here costs £290, which is barely more than 4790k (20%) and it has better platform, is soldered etc.. But mobo costs a lot (like £180-450 instead of just £110 to max OC quad core) and RAM costs not only more per gigabyte, but you're kinda pushed into getting 16GB too. It's quad channel and i think the sticks start at 4GB, so that's £150 instead of ~£60 for entry level stuff if you assume £200 mobo, that comes up to £640 instead of £410 for cpu/mobo/RAM, but you have 50% more cores, twice as much RAM, etc. From that perspective it doesn't look bad, just expensive. wtb i5 that's either 20%+ faster than Haswell for singlethread or has 6 cores | ||
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Thalandros
Netherlands1151 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + http://videocardz.com/51426/nvidia-to-skip-geforce-800-series-geforce-gtx-980-and-gtx-970-mid-september ![[image loading]](http://cdn.videocardz.com/1/2014/08/GeForce-GTX-900-series-850x337.jpg) NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 and GTX 970 next month According our credible sources NVIDIA decided to skip GeForce 800 series and move straight to 900. Of course there is a simple explanation why did that happen. For the past two weeks rumors about mobile GeForce 900M have been circulating around the web. Apparently NVIDIA decided to launch mobile GM204-based parts under 900M series, instead of rumored 800MX. While it makes sense for mobile parts (to differentiate Kepler from Maxwell), it would cause chaos in desktop naming consistency. Long story short, if NVIDIA didn’t rename 800 series to 900 series, we would have desktop 800 and mobile 900M series in relatively short time. That said, NVIDIA has finally came to the conclusion that synchronizing desktop and mobile platform series is crucial to keeping things simple. So technically there are no desktop 800 series, unless of course NVIDIA decides to launch them as OEM exclusive. Some of you will ask why did we report about 880 and 870 last month. It’s because the decision to rename GeForce 800 to 900 series was made just recently, at the time these cards were codenamed exactly how we reported. NVIDIA GeForce GTX 900 series paper launch second week of September Okay, so you know how these cards are going to be called, now when should you expect these cards to be released? We told you there’s a big press event in September. Today we will update this information. The event in question will take place second week of September, most likely between 9th and 10th. However, that is just a ‘paper launch’. The actual NDA for both cards will lift on September 19th. Bear in mind, those dates may change at any time. NVIDIA Second Generation Maxwell Announcement — September 9-10th NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 and GTX 970 NDA lift date — September 19th That said really excited for this, gonna be my first high end GPU buy right when it releases (after benchmarks come in obviously). | ||
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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
On August 30 2014 04:41 Thalandros wrote: Also ohai + Show Spoiler + http://videocardz.com/51426/nvidia-to-skip-geforce-800-series-geforce-gtx-980-and-gtx-970-mid-september NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 and GTX 970 next month According our credible sources NVIDIA decided to skip GeForce 800 series and move straight to 900. Of course there is a simple explanation why did that happen. For the past two weeks rumors about mobile GeForce 900M have been circulating around the web. Apparently NVIDIA decided to launch mobile GM204-based parts under 900M series, instead of rumored 800MX. While it makes sense for mobile parts (to differentiate Kepler from Maxwell), it would cause chaos in desktop naming consistency. Long story short, if NVIDIA didn’t rename 800 series to 900 series, we would have desktop 800 and mobile 900M series in relatively short time. That said, NVIDIA has finally came to the conclusion that synchronizing desktop and mobile platform series is crucial to keeping things simple. So technically there are no desktop 800 series, unless of course NVIDIA decides to launch them as OEM exclusive. Some of you will ask why did we report about 880 and 870 last month. It’s because the decision to rename GeForce 800 to 900 series was made just recently, at the time these cards were codenamed exactly how we reported. NVIDIA GeForce GTX 900 series paper launch second week of September Okay, so you know how these cards are going to be called, now when should you expect these cards to be released? We told you there’s a big press event in September. Today we will update this information. The event in question will take place second week of September, most likely between 9th and 10th. However, that is just a ‘paper launch’. The actual NDA for both cards will lift on September 19th. Bear in mind, those dates may change at any time. NVIDIA Second Generation Maxwell Announcement — September 9-10th NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 and GTX 970 NDA lift date — September 19th That said really excited for this, gonna be my first high end GPU buy right when it releases (after benchmarks come in obviously). I've said this before but I'll say it again. Until I hear something officially from Nvidia I don't believe in any of these rumors. | ||
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Craton
United States17294 Posts
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
http://www.cooltek.de/en/powered-by-jonsbo/c2/126/c2 I really like the size, but I'm a bit concerned about heat. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20341 Posts
On August 30 2014 04:41 Thalandros wrote: Also ohai + Show Spoiler + http://videocardz.com/51426/nvidia-to-skip-geforce-800-series-geforce-gtx-980-and-gtx-970-mid-september NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 and GTX 970 next month According our credible sources NVIDIA decided to skip GeForce 800 series and move straight to 900. Of course there is a simple explanation why did that happen. For the past two weeks rumors about mobile GeForce 900M have been circulating around the web. Apparently NVIDIA decided to launch mobile GM204-based parts under 900M series, instead of rumored 800MX. While it makes sense for mobile parts (to differentiate Kepler from Maxwell), it would cause chaos in desktop naming consistency. Long story short, if NVIDIA didn’t rename 800 series to 900 series, we would have desktop 800 and mobile 900M series in relatively short time. That said, NVIDIA has finally came to the conclusion that synchronizing desktop and mobile platform series is crucial to keeping things simple. So technically there are no desktop 800 series, unless of course NVIDIA decides to launch them as OEM exclusive. Some of you will ask why did we report about 880 and 870 last month. It’s because the decision to rename GeForce 800 to 900 series was made just recently, at the time these cards were codenamed exactly how we reported. NVIDIA GeForce GTX 900 series paper launch second week of September Okay, so you know how these cards are going to be called, now when should you expect these cards to be released? We told you there’s a big press event in September. Today we will update this information. The event in question will take place second week of September, most likely between 9th and 10th. However, that is just a ‘paper launch’. The actual NDA for both cards will lift on September 19th. Bear in mind, those dates may change at any time. NVIDIA Second Generation Maxwell Announcement — September 9-10th NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 and GTX 970 NDA lift date — September 19th That said really excited for this, gonna be my first high end GPU buy right when it releases (after benchmarks come in obviously). Just FYI tech journalism like this is terrible. Videocardz is one of the WORST sources. There's a bunch of sites, maybe half a dozen pretty high profile ones (believed by people who have not been following them for long, or don't know any better) that make up stuff after stuff out of tiny shreds of evidence and speculation (at best) or just out of their asses (at worst) until they get one prediction out of 10 somewhat correct, then claim that they were correct all along. Several of these sites have been caught out by members of community sites - a guy on OCN photoshopped a cpu-z image, posted it online with a hidden watermark in the image and it was picked up almost immediately by one of those sites claiming his image to be from a "reliable source in the semiconductor industry" if i remember that quote correctly. The closer we get to launch, the less inaccurate it's going to be, but remember that 800 series reveal or launch has already been "confirmed" by "reliable sources" for like 8 dates that didn't happen. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On August 23 2013 12:56 skyR wrote: BASIC GAMER 1080p low settings, video card upgrade ready Processor (CPU) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/NLjKzoi.jpg) $135 ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/BQX0SD1.jpg) AMD A10-6800kMotherboard ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/EGb2sP5.jpg) $60 ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/cLydWuZ.jpg) MSI FM2-A75MA-E35Memory (RAM) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/CWixQPh.jpg) $60 G.Skill Ripjaws X 2x4GB 2133MHzPrimary Storage ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/RIX8JCO.jpg) $55 Western Digital Blue 500GBPower Supply (PSU) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/nqmYkYP.jpg) $45 Corsair CX430Case ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/tYN96Ar.jpg) $30 NZXT Source 210 BlackTotal: $385 before mail-in rebates, taxes, shipping, and other applicable fees I noticed the mobo is out of stock and it has a newer version out for roughly the same price. Memory's 15$ more expensive, HDD looks about the same with a diff link. Since this is business, the low-end R7 260X from budget gamer recommendation for $114 before rebate looked ok. At this moment, the PC is dedicated nongaming since business picked up qq and I have a home PC from '09 that can run SC2 1080P low no problem. It's just video gotomeeting, youtube, and twitch. I know even the Terran Help Me Thread and 4M guide gets outdated without regular time-consuming updates. Any updates or thoughts on the super-budget pc build for today -- the out of stock mobo, more expensive 2x4gb memory sticks (gotta be sweeter somewhere else USA), vid card, or other aspects of the budget gamer build? Every dollar spent here delays upgrading a 5-year-old dedicated gaming pc, but my work pc is a dead 2005 antique and priority. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Thalandros
Netherlands1151 Posts
CPU: Intel Pentium 3550M Dual Core 2.3GHz 2MB Memory: 4GB (1x4GB) DDR3 1600Mhz Memory Hard Drive: Seagate Momentus XT Hybrid 1TB 8MLC 2.5" Hybrid Now it also comes with a 15.6'' screen that's the standard 1366x768 resolution, ''Anti Glare''. Also a DVD writer and optical drive, which can still be handy I suppose for some odd cases. They allow you to customize the build though, and I was wondering two things. The laptop is going to be used for general household usage: Banking, browsing, video-watching, netflix, etc. Nothing really heavy or game related. These are the things I wonder. 1:With the laptop comes the 3550M Haswell Pentium, but is it really a noticable difference for home usage over a Celeron N2830 or 2950M they also offer? The prices differ quite much and obviously the 3550 is best, but I usually game so I don't know about only everyday applications. 2. The HDD. I've put a hybrid hard disk in which will cost me extra, but I've also got the choice of 128/256/500GB SSD's. The price difference between hybrid/ssd is basically nonexistant but the SSD would be only 128GB and I'm not sure if that's enough. On the other hand, are hybrid drives, once it's learned your usage, actually so much faster than regular HDDs? I'm trying to find a middle ground here. | ||
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